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I know this is going to sound very much like a first world problem, but this phone is frustratingly ****. It is easily the buggiest, slowest, most laggy phone I have ever had.
I have tried just about all the LG based ROMS, only to find that each one, although not buggy, are all laggy. The lag is so bad that it gives my old S2 on Gingerbread a run for its money. At least with Samsung phones, you could get rid of the lag by using a AOSP ROM and it would still be functional.
To solve the frustrating lag issue, I have installed a CM based ROM. At first I was delighted. The lag was gone. The phone was now comparable to my super fast Nexus 5. But after a few hours, I noticed the same bugs that every other CM based ROM user has. Today, I had to restart the phone six times FFS! It is a little more stable on 777 Kernel, but the same issues still persist.
Has anyone achieved bliss with this phone? Is there any ROMS, AOSP or LG based, that are fast, (Nexus 5 fast), and bug free?
Don't get me wrong, I love devs and the work they do. Without them, my old Galaxy phones, (S1, S2, S3, S4), would have been poo. My Nexus 5 would have been boring. (Stock android is meh). I just don't understand why this phone seems to have so many issues. Help me understand why it is so hard to develop a fast and reliable ROM for this phone. I know it isn't from a lack of trying. There is heaps of support and devs working on various ROMS in the G3 threads already and all of them are very talented.
Is it hardware based lag or is there something else inherently wrong with the phone?
Thanks for reading and offering any solutions. I don't want to list the ROMS I have tried, as it will seem like I am an ungrateful twat to those devs that worked so hard. Suffice to say, I have tried all the popular CM/AOSP and LG based ROMS.
Stock 5.0 V20H fine for me no lag [emoji3]
I switched to note 4 whilst g3 was good I had a better experience with my note 3. So upgraded
-= Note 4 & Gear VR =-
hashcheck said:
I switched to note 4 whilst g3 was good I had a better experience with my note 3. So upgraded
-= Note 4 & Gear VR =-
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I don't want to switch so soon. There has to be a solution. I love the screen and size of this phone. The only other phone I would consider is the droid turbo, but it's so bloody expensive!
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Stock 5.0 V20H fine for me no lag [emoji3]
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Compared to what? Which other android phone have you used? In isolation, this phone is barely acceptable. Then, after you use a nexus, HTC or Sony phone, this phone is comparably slow. Almost unusable.
I can't bring myself to try stock again until someone who has other phones to base their claims on can confirm it is lag free.
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Compared to what? Which other android phone have you used? In isolation, this phone is barely acceptable. Then, after you use a nexus, HTC or Sony phone, this phone is comparably slow. Almost unusable.
I can't bring myself to try stock again until someone who has other phones to base their claims on can confirm it is lag free.
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Have you tried the usual tricks?
1. Swap out the stock launcher for something like Nova or Apex
2. Switch your keyboard to a 3rd party keyboard
While it does suffer from the random stutter, my phone is generally very zippy and does not lag.
Done all that. On stock based ROMS, stutter and lag is unbearable. My wife, nexus 5 user, even commented on how bad it is. I'm actually embarrassed to use the phone in front of people. I know it isn't a hardware issue, because AOSP ROMS are lag free, but not bug free.
Yeah, the phone is nowhere near as quick as a Nexus. The notification bar is also **** compared to stock Lollipop. There are a few tricks I use to improve performance on a stock rom:
1) Turn off throttling/thermal daemon via the service menu.
2) I use setCPU to set the phone to use the "performance" scheduler whenever the screen is on, locking it at 2.5Ghz.
Still isn't perfect, but it helps substantially. Obviously this is in addition to changing the launcher.
It's just one of those things. As you say, CM12 just isn't stable and worryingly seems to be going backwards, getting less and less stable with each passing nightly. The camera is also completely crap on AOSP roms. Nexus devices are great but the N5 is old and the N6 is too big and expensive. The S5 lags too, and while Note 4 is supposed to be good, but I simply won't believe that Touchwiz lag is gone without seeing it with my own eyes. Even if it has gone, Touchwiz remains the ugliest skin I've ever seen. Sony phones are nice, but they aren't packaged anywhere near as tightly as the G3, which is it's biggest strength: 22mm shorter than an iPhone 6+, with the same size screen. That's impressive. HTC's are just ridiculously large for a given screen size. The 1+1 is old now, and doesn't support all LTE bands used in the UK.
There is no perfect phone. Whichever you choose, there are compromises to be made. However IMHO the G3 strikes the best compromise available today, at least once running the latest Lollipop build and with the tweaks I mentioned above applied.
Had most 2014 flagships and G3 is deff fav so far, didnt have KK as updated to LP out the box had little lag after ota but common just needed a factory reset and all good since
Just a tip you can use on any android phone, go to settings, developer options, and set all the animations to 0.5x. This drastically reduces the time the animations take, and it gives a very snappy experience. It makes a LOT of difference, trust me.
No lag whatsoever here. Im running Chupachups newest rom with rin kernel. I've previously owned htc one, lg g2, xperia z1 and this phone definitely outperforms them all.
Ive owned the Xperia Z1, HTC One M7, and tbh id rate this better than both, i would like the battery life to be better my Z1 was amazing for that buh im custom stock rom and i dont get lag, everything is as it should be.
cubic25 said:
I know this is going to sound very much like a first world problem, but this phone is frustratingly ****. It is easily the buggiest, slowest, most laggy phone I have ever had.
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Has anyone achieved bliss with this phone? Is there any ROMS, AOSP or LG based, that are fast, (Nexus 5 fast), and bug free?
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Is it hardware based lag or is there something else inherently wrong with the phone?
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Because LL is still unstable and buggy? And so is any rom based on it?..
Stock firmware sucks because of LG's software - it's very badly written. Almost as bad as touchwiz is. (I used SGS3, trust me on that one...)
AOSP/CM based firmwares are better, but they still suffer due do LL newness. Wait till android 5.1, things may become better.
There is also a hardware issue: unbelievably bad heat management. They used 8974ac, but had not made any cooling system. No radiators, no heat spread throughout the case, and it's facing LCD panel - which is a very bad radiator. GG WP, throttling kick in, phone starts to lag, etc etc etc.
I think there may be problem with your unit... Try to send it back to get a replacement or have it serviced.
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I agree that most of the stock LG-G3 roms, Lollipop/Kitkat, if not rooted and without any mods, LAG is unavoidable. The case is, some people can't root their phones and most of them will try searching why G3 stock rom is lagging... if I'm one of them and I happen to see this post, I would feel bad and feel stupid at the same time why I spend money buying a crappy phone.
Well anyways, try Crash Rom v2.0. It is a stock based ROM like chupachups. The animation is not as fluid as CM but I won't say that it's lagging. Compared to CM, I have not yet encountered any bugs and mostly the camera is better. If you're interested you can also downgrade the resolution to 1080p, this will enhance your g3, 3d and 2d graphics performance.
Hi im all so on lollipop 5.0 updated out of the box and its all good maybe some lag not much to notice. Still no root method yet for stock lollipop 5.0 and i dont want to downgrade to kk so il have patience and wait for new root method for me g3
Wow, I went from the nexus 5, to the htc m8, to the g3 all in year. My advice, play with this one to get the phone lag gone. This by far is the best. Like a previous person said, turn off animations and change the launcher.
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I think there may be problem with your unit... Try to send it back to get a replacement or have it serviced.
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Can't be an issue with the phone, as it is lag free with CM based ROMS.
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I agree that most of the stock LG-G3 roms, Lollipop/Kitkat, if not rooted and without any mods, LAG is unavoidable. The case is, some people can't root their phones and most of them will try searching why G3 stock rom is lagging... if I'm one of them and I happen to see this post, I would feel bad and feel stupid at the same time why I spend money buying a crappy phone.
Well anyways, try Crash Rom v2.0. It is a stock based ROM like chupachups. The animation is not as fluid as CM but I won't say that it's lagging. Compared to CM, I have not yet encountered any bugs and mostly the camera is better. If you're interested you can also downgrade the resolution to 1080p, this will enhance your g3, 3d and 2d graphics performance.
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I'll give crash a go this afternoon and report back. Hopefully 5.1 ROMS fix the issue too.
dspcap said:
Wow, I went from the nexus 5, to the htc m8, to the g3 all in year. My advice, play with this one to get the phone lag gone. This by far is the best. Like a previous person said, turn off animations and change the launcher.
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Already done all that. Animations are turned off, launcher animations are set to lightning fast, CPU throttling is turned off. I've tried all the tricks in the book. Fact is, LG based software is crap, just like Samsung.
So far today, the lock-screen has only frozen on me four times, which is good.
I'm not sure if I'd rather put up with a laggy phone or a buggy phone.
My phone is currently on V20h. Apart from the occasional Home launcher crash, I've not had any lag that I notice of. The last time there was any lag was on V10i. My phone is rooted but is not running any mods.
Prior to this, I've had the Note 3 and Xperia S. Compared to the G3, I would say that the smoothness is at the very least, on par with the Note 3 running on stock.
I've seen people complaining about the G3 being laggy too. Is your phone by any chance the 2 GB RAM version?
My phone is the 2gb version, but I always have at least close to 300mb free. Sometimes I have over 1gb free. Not that it should matter though, as I have read on numerous places that the 3gb version lags too, and that both phones are very close on performance. The extra 1gb of RAM is negligible.
Just flashing Crash ROM now. I think I'm going to regret it though, as I much prefer the look of AOSP anyway.
Ah crap. Just as I flash the ROM, I read that the dev is stopping support for our device. Based on the comments, it looks like a promising ROM.
I used the stock rom for my device and decided to try some custom rom for a Le 2, it really does an incredible job for the developers but we are full of different versions and all with the same Bugs, especially the camera never works well. Hopefully you could focus the work on one and get a good rom and not new projects every day that are generally good but have errors that in some moments of daily use make us want to return to something stable and work perfectly.
It is not for less to value the work, it is only a point of view.
I personally consider that the best work is on the side of Pixel Xperience but it is only my personal opinion, even though the camera does not work very well, the fingerprint reader usually fails in some apps among other things.
I use the Droid on Time Rom version 2.5 on my LeEco Le 2. I have no problem with the camera. The day time pictures are okay but nigh time is sh...
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I used the stock rom for my device and decided to try some custom rom for a Le 2, it really does an incredible job for the developers but we are full of different versions and all with the same Bugs, especially the camera never works well. Hopefully you could focus the work on one and get a good rom and not new projects every day that are generally good but have errors that in some moments of daily use make us want to return to something stable and work perfectly.
It is not for less to value the work, it is only a point of view.
I personally consider that the best work is on the side of Pixel Xperience but it is only my personal opinion, even though the camera does not work very well, the fingerprint reader usually fails in some apps among other things.
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The latest release of PixelExperience fixes a lot of the issues it had, give it another shot, you'll love it.
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The latest release of PixelExperience fixes a lot of the issues it had, give it another shot, you'll love it.
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Is the best custom rom. Just doing a good management of applications in the background can give you 5 to 6 hours of screen on each load. before I only had 3h. the night mode crash for moments but work fine
Camera is the deal-breaker
I have tried custom ROMS including codeworkx' lineage 14, lineage 15.1 by rk85, and pixel experience pie but in every single one the camera is damn near unusable. There are many gcam ports that sometimes work but with major issues particularly lags, crashes, inability to record video, and just frequent lack of reliability. Apps like camera fv-5, footej, and open camera are also quite bad even though they are the recommended ones because stock cameras just don't work. Performance is also not good and instability creeps in quickly when you push the phone like by playing games or benchmarking.
The only custom ROMS I can commend are miui and EUI-based ones which are all Marshmallow. Miui heating and battery drain is a serious issue and slim eui has unfixable play store issues. The only custom ROM I can recommend as a daily driver is SmallEUI v3. I hear mokee is also good but doesn't have as good battery life as SmallEUI. Custom ROMS are fine for experiencing new Android version features but I don't see any of them becoming daily driver material.
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I have tried custom ROMS including codeworkx' lineage 14, lineage 15.1 by rk85, and pixel experience pie but in every single one the camera is damn near unusable. There are many gcam ports that sometimes work but with major issues particularly lags, crashes, inability to record video, and just frequent lack of reliability. Apps like camera fv-5, footej, and open camera are also quite bad even though they are the recommended ones because stock cameras just don't work. Performance is also not good and instability creeps in quickly when you push the phone like by playing games or benchmarking.
The only custom ROMS I can commend are miui and EUI-based ones which are all Marshmallow. Miui heating and battery drain is a serious issue and slim eui has unfixable play store issues. The only custom ROM I can recommend as a daily driver is SmallEUI v3. I hear mokee is also good but doesn't have as good battery life as SmallEUI. Custom ROMS are fine for experiencing new Android version features but I don't see any of them becoming daily driver material.
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My 526 has been on MIUI pro 8.9.20 for weeks - longest staying on any rom so far. No problem with overheating or battery drain at all, have not used camera much though.
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My 526 has been on MIUI pro 8.9.20 for weeks - longest staying on any rom so far. No problem with overheating or battery drain at all, have not used camera much though.
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For the few times you've used the camera, how does it compare with stock camera? Does it record 4K? Slow-mo? Image sharpness and detail? Your average SOT?
Sorry, I don't use this function long enough to compare.
Hi,
I just want to know, according to you what is the best Rom you experience on Redmi Note 7 ? (basing on user experience, number of bugs, features, battery drain, responsivity ...)
It is just a personnal opinion and does not reflect the quality of rom for which the developers do a very good job
Tried Pixel Experience, Bootloggers, and AOSP extended and from those three AoSP is the best so far, best battery life, performance and fewest bugs.
Xiaomi.eu the best imo
Global stock excellent for me
Enviado desde mi Redmi Note 7 mediante Tapatalk
I'm interested in MicroG/NoGApps [do not have the device (yet)]. Usually I prefer LOS, so if official LOS exists the MicroG builds from download.lineage.microg.org - because of hal1/3 issue on lavender official LOS does not look nearby. So best MicroG ROM options to avoid deodex services.jar seem to be [OFFICIAL][9.0]AospExtended v6.6 or Havoc-OS-2.6-[9.0]-[Official] or [9.0][OFFICIAL]crDroid v5.6[Lavender]?
Regarding Problems with video recording & WhatsApp video call and proximity sensor all those ROMs are the same?
Xiaomi.eu it's been a good ROM, can hit around 8~9 hours of SOT, I've readed sometimes up to 10hours
I wish you separated miui into 1.) stock and 2.) xiaomi eu.
which I can't try yet as I'm still waiting to have my bootloader unlocked.
Conclusion: Don't be a tester for underdeveloped ROM, stay safe and stable with stock ROM.
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Conclusion: Don't be a tester for underdeveloped ROM, stay safe and stable with stock ROM.
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Are you serious? No one is holding a gun against your head and telling you to install roms. Those people spend hours and hours working so we can have multiple choices (not everyone likes miui) and they dont get a cent for their job. At least someone can do is install rom and give their feedback. These days roms are not making too much difference when it comes to overall performance cause phones have way better hardware and specs. But not so long ago when phones had 512mb of ram and you get them with fully bloated stock roms the only way of having a normal phone was to root and install a custom rom. So no need to trash talk if you dont like it dont use it. I personally havent tried single rom so far (tho i got my note 7 few weeks ago). I settled for xiaomi eu cause its stable with everything working and i dont have time to flash roms at the moment. But i will always be fan of pure android and OP if you like pure android and a bit smoother experience go for custom roms also battery will sure be better there. I heard evira kernel is good also you could try pixel experience (less customization) , aex or havoc for more customization.
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Are you serious? No one is holding a gun against your head and telling you to install roms. Those people spend hours and hours working so we can have multiple choices (not everyone likes miui) and they dont get a cent for their job. At least someone can do is install rom and give their feedback. These days roms are not making too much difference when it comes to overall performance cause phones have way better hardware and specs. But not so long ago when phones had 512mb of ram and you get them with fully bloated stock roms the only way of having a normal phone was to root and install a custom rom. So no need to trash talk if you dont like it dont use it. I personally havent tried single rom so far (tho i got my note 7 few weeks ago). I settled for xiaomi eu cause its stable with everything working and i dont have time to flash roms at the moment. But i will always be fan of pure android and OP if you like pure android and a bit smoother experience go for custom roms also battery will sure be better there. I heard evira kernel is good also you could try pixel experience (less customization) , aex or havoc for more customization.
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Now AOSP is not really good as you expect. Its smooth but battery is not really better than stock and not all feature is working some hiccup occurs in 3rd party apps
Immortal0907 said:
Are you serious? No one is holding a gun against your head and telling you to install roms. Those people spend hours and hours working so we can have multiple choices (not everyone likes miui) and they dont get a cent for their job. At least someone can do is install rom and give their feedback. These days roms are not making too much difference when it comes to overall performance cause phones have way better hardware and specs. But not so long ago when phones had 512mb of ram and you get them with fully bloated stock roms the only way of having a normal phone was to root and install a custom rom. So no need to trash talk if you dont like it dont use it. I personally havent tried single rom so far (tho i got my note 7 few weeks ago). I settled for xiaomi eu cause its stable with everything working and i dont have time to flash roms at the moment. But i will always be fan of pure android and OP if you like pure android and a bit smoother experience go for custom roms also battery will sure be better there. I heard evira kernel is good also you could try pixel experience (less customization) , aex or havoc for more customization.
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Learn the difference between trash talk and stating facts.
You don't even use custom ROM.
Sure, I also want everybody else to use custom ROMs so they get developed more quickly?
I am surprised that lineageOs has not more vote on this topic. It was a very popular Rom on other devices but I think there is other good competitors on RN7. I will have a look on AospExtended some day as it seems very adopted.
I previously switched to custom rom 'cause I had some issues with MIUI. I don't know if it is always the case but MIUI work smooth with default launcher but when using alternative laucher (for example Nova), I had issues with notifications counter. It seems that MIUI kill apps severly in order to have a good battery life. For me, notification badges was killed also fitness app like Samsung Health or google fit. It was not the case with Mi Fit.
Even if I set the correct property in the app control, it seems that xiaomi apps always have always been managed better like if they have some heigher privilege.
I'm very happy in Stock Global MIUI 10 stable.
Rooted.
Evira Kernel.
FDE.AI Magisk Module.
Underclocked.
Debloated.
Happy about it.
I enjoy visual appearance very much and MIUI is just beautiful to my eyes.
To me:
- Xiaomi.eu is the best if you can't live without the MIUI stuff. It has almost all the best MIUI can offer, removes most privacy issues from stock, and adds more useful features.
- For custom ROMs:
+ I love AOSPExtended since it has just enough customizations to play with. I have it on my RN7 (lavender) and RN4X (mido) and it works perfectly on both. I love the way my 2 phones look and work almost the same.
+ ResurrectionRemix has a crazy amount of customization options. I used to have it on my RN4X. I've never had it on my RN7 but it's a very popular ROM out there.
+ LineageOS is great if you enjoy minimalism. I have it on my ancient phones to keep them light and clean.
You can try different ROMs to see which one fits your needs or you can stay on stock MIUI. You have the choice. Just pay respect to developers as they devote their time and effort to create and improve ROMs.
Cheers! :fingers-crossed:
Syberia.. Just because its battery life.
Agreed to the person before me, always respect the DEV.. Nowdays people tend to ask too much and have lil patience.
So far am going with miui eu global official.Have tried global worldwide official and chinese official and find the eu global the best.Also tried the eu custom rom revolution x aosp extended bootleggers havoc and pixel experience and found aosp extended to be least buggy for me.When it comes to sound and camera especially adding gcam the official miui eu is better but try the roms for yourself and decide.
Is there any noticeable difference between global version number and eu version number?? Or the 10.6.0 and 10.3.3 are the same thing with small differences??
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Is there any noticeable difference between global version number and eu version number?? Or the 10.6.0 and 10.3.3 are the same thing with small differences??
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The eu 10.3.3 is a custom rom based on the chinese rom with all the chinese apps debloated.I found it a bit buggy with apps like what's app.You also have the eeu global 10.5.0 which I find the best after trying worldwide global chinese miui and eu custom rom.Eeu global has less adds and is more debloated than worldwide global.Best to try them and decide which suits.
after trying many roms, stock eu is best...some apps not work on custom roms, so stock with evira pure 1.4 kernel is best ?
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The eu 10.3.3 is a custom rom based on the chinese rom with all the chinese apps debloated.I found it a bit buggy with apps like what's app.You also have the eeu global 10.5.0 which I find the best after trying worldwide global chinese miui and eu custom rom.Eeu global has less adds and is more debloated than worldwide global.Best to try them and decide which suits.
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I'm a bit lost... what the difference between THIS and THIS ?? stable Vs weekly ?? one is for daily use, the second for "tests" builds ?
And what is the EEU version you're talking about ?? i just see the EU version... error typing maybe ?
Im currently still on 7.1.1 Nougat with Oxygen version 4.5.xx
Its working stable and pretty good so far, have not encountered any issues (Other than occasional android system draining battery issue once every couple months which is solved by clearing cache.) Should i be upgrading to PIe?
The reason i did not upgrade was because i read a lot of posts about oreo not being stable and having battery issues and Pie having perfomance issues.
I want to know how good the lastest Pie version is, Is it stable enough and how does it compete against the old Nougat versions.
The main things i'm interested in is
- Battery Life ofcourse (I Commute a lot, thats why its of utmost importance to me)
- Perfomance (A Friend's OP6 has been observing some lags since updating to Pie, I Dont want that to happen)
Havent rooted, Not planning to do so. Had fun doing that with my Xiaomi devices, Just want to stay on the official Kernel, Roms for now.
i was in same ship as yours, i also didnt update my system from 4.5.14 to any newer version major reason being bugs as generally i have seen company give their 100% to roms when its newer ( in my case before 5T is launched ) after that it just case of mouse and cat. Sometime it works sometimes dosent and you had to wait for next update to get rid of certain issue but the new update brings some exceptional issues with them as well.
But had a conversation with someone from this forum and finally though of upgrading. First reaction was Awesome. I dont know what exacatly has changed in UI but it looks quite polished, more than OP6 that my friend has. Maybe due to the fact that i am on OP5 so no gesture control and hence no lag due to that. Its more refined and everything works fine for me. Battery life is also pretty good considering its an 2 years old device and i am a pretty heavy user myself with daily screen average usage of 6 hours ( excluding music which i listen screen off but it also take battery quite much with some high def music. So your choise now. But one thing to note is that i have heard going back is pretty hard and not as simple as downloading the rom and booting to the bootloader and flash it ( which i did quite time in nougat but that was between nougat versions as i never went to oreo ).
the official MIUI 11 I'm using now, and too many trash system apps running in background makes the game I'm playing keep choppy and frozen (or lag?).
the main purpose of this phone for me is playing multiplayer games, so compared to functionally powerful, Light and Smooth is more what I care.
which ROM (and version) is most suitable for this usage? Thanks.
Test MIUI eu 11 Android 10
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Test MIUI eu 11 Android 10
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thanks for your kind advice, but seems miui eu is based on china official builds? and miui official build 11.0.1 Android 10 is already withdrawed by official because of too many bugs (source: read on china xiaomi forum). also those negative feedbacks about 11.0.1 Android 10 on miui eu forum...still thanks.
Tested a ton of ROMs (mostly from xiaomi.eu) and I keep going back to MIUI 11.2, version 20.1.21 BETA. Works way better than the "stable" ones, is smooth as fk, crisp menus no lag etc.
I went from xiaomi.eu (a10/miui12) to "pixel plus ui" rom and I don't regret it. I've got more storage available, way better battery backup without the stupid miui battery manager which limits apps by default (10h SoT and 2 days without charge), UI is smooth and so far I haven't found any bugs.
Normally, I don't like to flash custom roms because in time i've learned that they all have their flaws. But coming from an androidOne phone, I just can't stand MIUI anymore. It got HUGE with tons of customizations/features I don't need nor want. Flashing a custom rom got me an extra 10gb+! of free storage. That's why I tested a couple of roms and I'm sticking with "pixel plus ui".
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Tested a ton of ROMs (mostly from xiaomi.eu) and I keep going back to MIUI 11.2, version 20.1.21 BETA. Works way better than the "stable" ones, is smooth as fk, crisp menus no lag etc.
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You mean OFFICIAL MIUI 11.2, version 20.1.21 BETA? how did you deal with those trash system apks? some of which i heard cannot be removed or bootlooping happens. how did you deal with those ads?