battery drain help - OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers

Hey everyone
I've been having some battery drain that I cannot nail down
It appears to be Google Play services that is the culprit.
It's preventing the device from going to sleep. According to ekxm as of now my wake time is 40%.
This is after a factory reset in stock recovery.
Running OB3 on bluspark
It seems to only really happen when on cellular. Last night before going to bed and not touching my phone for hours it was sitting at like 6%.
I don't know what else to do to track this down.
Any help would be appreciated.

c_86 said:
Hey everyone
I've been having some battery drain that I cannot nail down
It appears to be Google Play services that is the culprit.
It's preventing the device from going to sleep. According to ekxm as of now my wake time is 40%.
This is after a factory reset in stock recovery.
Running OB3 on bluspark
It seems to only really happen when on cellular. Last night before going to bed and not touching my phone for hours it was sitting at like 6%.
I don't know what else to do to track this down.
Any help would be appreciated.
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It's anything being backed up?
I've had an issue where WhatsApp and Google photos was backing up, so not really an issue but it annihilates the battery and it is backing up to Google.
If it's Google play services going a bit mental then just uninstall updates or clear data..
If it's restoring or backing up then just let it finish.
PS: After you wiped, I'd avoid installing any kernels just to see what your experience is at stock.
Do you have any other modules installed?

These are the versions I'm using.

No modules at all.
Photos backs up yes.
But why would it do that on cellular. I wiped on Saturday and everything was fine Saturday night and Sunday all day when I was at home. Now that I'm out at work on cellular it does this

Attached are bbs stats

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c_86 said:
Attached are bbs stats
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Seems you have BBS, ex kernel all watching the battery..
Disable the stats from ex, uninstall BBS, get rid of anything else you don't need.... Leave your WiFi on, let anything finish that needs to finish.
Then once it's settled, let's see then whats at the top of the list in the OnePlus battery stats, no need for an app.
Did you compare Google play store and services versions with the ones I posted?
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You have a vpn running it would appear.
Any reason for that?
Seems I don't have all the info I'd need to tell you.
Jump back to stock, root by all means but avoid restoring apps and installing kernels, vpns etc. Then reinstall bit by bit.
That's the only real way you're going to find out what's taking your battery.
Seeing as you're using blu spark, I'd say ask the creator of it, good luck with that.

dladz said:
Seems you have BBS, ex kernel all watching the battery..
Disable the stats from ex, uninstall BBS, get rid of anything else you don't need.... Leave your WiFi on, let anything finish that needs to finish.
Then once it's settled, let's see then whats at the top of the list in the OnePlus battery stats, no need for an app.
Did you compare Google play store and services versions with the ones I posted?
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You have a vpn running it would appear.
Any reason for that?
Seems I don't have all the info I'd need to tell you.
Jump back to stock, root by all means but avoid restoring apps and installing kernels, vpns etc. Then reinstall bit by bit.
That's the only real way you're going to find out what's taking your battery.
Seeing as you're using blu spark, I'd say ask the creator of it, good luck with that.
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VPN is adguard for ad blocking, its a on device VPN
Play services and store, match

c_86 said:
VPN is adguard for ad blocking, its a on device VPN
Play services and store, match
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So is probably not the play store, it'll be something you've installed. I've little to no doubt.
As I've said go back to stock, root and then see how you are.
Then bit by bit bring back your apps and mods.

now that i am back on wifi, its behaving, its not staying awake...
something odd is happening here... its like once its off wifi, something is not letting it sleep...

c_86 said:
now that i am back on wifi, its behaving, its not staying awake...
something odd is happening here... its like once its off wifi, something is not letting it sleep...
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Just leave if for a while, so if any restoring or backing up is going on it'll complete, that's what it sounds like..
Turn off any auto updates or auto back ups for OnePlus and for play store, or diagnostics within apps..
Also make sure you've optimised apps within system settings.
Can't think what else it could be

dladz said:
Just leave if for a while, so if any restoring or backing up is going on it'll complete, that's what it sounds like..
Turn off any auto updates or auto back ups for OnePlus and for play store, or diagnostics within apps..
Also make sure you've optimised apps within system settings.
Can't think what else it could be
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I don't have anything OnePlus enabled for back ups etc.
All my 3rd party apps are optimized.
This is extremely frustrating. On a device that should be getting me 6+ hours of screen time. I barely get 4 with all this additional drain.
And all this is even after a factory reset. Using the same apps I've always used without any prior issues.

c_86 said:
I don't have anything OnePlus enabled for back ups etc.
All my 3rd party apps are optimized.
This is extremely frustrating. On a device that should be getting me 6+ hours of screen time. I barely get 4 with all this additional drain.
And all this is even after a factory reset. Using the same apps I've always used without any prior issues.
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You say it's after a factory reset yet you've gone ahead and rooted again and have all your apps installed and a kernel plus a vpn? It's obvious that what you've installed is causing the problem

Clear the cache and data of your play services, google framework, and play store. Usually of there is something causing an issue for me clearing the cache of those apps is enough to fix the issue.
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You say it's after a factory reset yet you've gone ahead and rooted again and have all your apps installed and a kernel plus a vpn? It's obvious that what you've installed is causing the problem
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Adguard (not the adguard vpn, just the local adguard that operates as a vpn) does not drain battery. If anything it reduces battery usage as it uses less data. That is not the problem.

smartymcfly said:
Adguard (not the adguard vpn, just the local adguard that operates as a vpn) does not drain battery. If anything it reduces battery usage as it uses less data. That is not the problem.
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Really? So a process trying to load something over and over again can't cause battery drain? Yes it can....I've seen it before.
I've already stated what needs to be done, it's up to him if he chooses to follow that.

dladz said:
Really? So a process trying to load something over and over again can't cause battery drain? Yes it can....I've seen it before.
I've already stated what needs to be done, it's up to him if he chooses to follow that.
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He showed that is something to with Google play services that is causing the issue. Considering that adguard is not connected to Google play services, it has nothing to do with it. Nothing in his images shows adguard as causing an issue. Which BBS would show if it was causing an issue. Your instructions were for a generic problem that someone who hadn't diagnosed the issue might use of they were trying to figure out the culprit. He had the issue diagnosed using BBS as google play services. Adguard does not rely on google play services for anything.

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He showed that is something to with Google play services that is causing the issue. Considering that adguard is not connected to Google play services, it has nothing to do with it. Nothing in his images shows adguard as causing an issue. Which BBS would show if it was causing an issue. Your instructions were for a generic problem that someone who hadn't diagnosed the issue might use of they were trying to figure out the culprit. He had the issue diagnosed using BBS as google play services. Adguard does not rely on google play services for anything.
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Advert could be linking to a Google play advert or app, I don't know what it is but I've seen drain from an ad blocker before..
My point being why try one thing at a time.. and as I've said several times now, get back to stock and install bit by bit so find the culprit.
Google play links to everything installed, I had already said to clear data, that was one of the first things I said. What you're completely missing is the trigger, he's factory wiped his phone, yet it's reoccurred..
Why would you think they wiping the data to Google play would fix it permanently? You're simply treating a symptom, not the cause.
My instructions were not for a generic problem, in actual fact yours were. You're seeing the problem as Google play whereas that does not reflect the cause. Just the outcome.
Either way, I've given my two cents, do what you will.

Thanks for all the input guys
I had done wipe of storage and caches for play services , store, and everything linked to that.
I think the culprit was ob3
I decided to roll back last night to a10 and then go to staples a11 and the issue appears to not have come back. Even thought I have all the same apps and settings.
So something with play services might not be playing nice with ob3. It could just be me or not. IDK.
At least for now. It's been 12 hours since I loaded stable a11 on and I'm sitting at 1.4 % idle drain according to exkm. This is with 50% wifi and cellular. I'm going to wait a while more before I fully say it's gone until it's been a couple days to regular usage for things to settle

36 hours so far. And all is well so far. At 1.15% idle drain today.

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[Q] Bad Battery?

Is there a way I can officially know if I have a bad battery on my LGG2? When I had purchased the phone, I never really took interest in it because of it's battery life, but after hearing that it has a great battery life I thought mine was lacking. I hear people having it go for two days without a charge. Yet mine was being charged once a day or more at least. I had batterydoctor installed, and when I had it, it would say I got about 22 hours or so normally. Then 17 or so.
I took the phone to the AT&T service center to get a replacement as I felt as if the battery was bad. Yet after getting the new one, I feel as if I'm having the same problem or even worse.
I'm still getting below 20 hours, and the battery seems to die faster than expected. I do not do a lot on my phone as it is. I had previously only had BatteryDoctor control the CPU, but I purchased SetCPU to get a bit better control on my CPU. I read push notifications was more efficient than 15 minute intervals, so I set those on my email apps. I don't have a lot of widgets, or even more than two. My screen brightness is usually below half.
Am I just plagued with a bad battery, or am I doing somethings wrong here? Anymore I can do?
Along the lines of this, is there a list of what bloatware apps I can uninstall from the LGG2? I had uninstalled a lot, but I'm not really sure what is still safe or unsafe to uninstall.
The built in battery manager as of now expects my battery to last around 6-8 hours, while battery doctor says 15 hours.
You can't uninstall anything that your system needs unless you're rooted and using an application manager to uninstall, such as Titanium Backup. If you're removing apps from the stock app page, you'll be fine to remove anything that is removable.
I'm sure your battery is fine, but you didn't give us any hard proof of what's going on. Go into your Settings and check the Battery section after the phone is down to about 50% or so. My guess is, that Google Services will be the main battery culprit, with Screen somewhere behind it.
If Google Services is what's chewing through your battery, you're not alone. The easiest way to fix the issue right now is to disable Google's Location Services.
If that's not what's causing your problem, please report back here with more info and we'll try to get you sorted out.
Sent from CAMACHO, my Verizon G2 (VS980) running PAC ROM 4.3.
Vepaot said:
You can't uninstall anything that your system needs unless you're rooted and using an application manager to uninstall, such as Titanium Backup. If you're removing apps from the stock app page, you'll be fine to remove anything that is removable.
I'm sure your battery is fine, but you didn't give us any hard proof of what's going on. Go into your Settings and check the Battery section after the phone is down to about 50% or so. My guess is, that Google Services will be the main battery culprit, with Screen somewhere behind it.
If Google Services is what's chewing through your battery, you're not alone. The easiest way to fix the issue right now is to disable Google's Location Services.
If that's not what's causing your problem, please report back here with more info and we'll try to get you sorted out.
Sent from CAMACHO, my Verizon G2 (VS980) running PAC ROM 4.3.
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I am aware I can't uninstall anything my system needs, but I am not aware of what my system needs and does not need. I know of the obvious bloatware applications, so I uninstalled those. As for other things, I am not sure of. I would like to get rid of any unneeded apps that I will not use or have no use for as much as possible. And my device is rooted. And I do use Titanium Backup.
Sorry about that, I'm not good at explaining things most of the time. I'm not really sure as of what proof is needed. Though I have checked before. Google Services seems to come up often. Android System is the second I usually see as well. Screen usually comes into third or lower. I will disable the Location Services and see how things work out.
Thanks for the help so far. If there is any other info that is needed, I will try my best to provide such things.
As far as debloating goes, I recommend installing a modified stock ROM, such as Malladus. That way you don't have to compile a list of things that can or can't be removed.
If my previous fix doesn't work, try downloading an app such as Better Battery Stats ($2.89) or Wakelock Detector (free). They will tell what's keeping your phone awake.
And then you can use an app like Greenify to prevent specific pesky apps from waking your phone and causing massive battery drain. You can use Greenify to stop Google apps as well, but it will prevent notifications from all of their apps. For example, instead of disabling Location Services on my phone, I prevented Google Maps and Google Play Services from causing wakelocks. Which worked great to keep my battery running, but it also prevented Google Voice from notifying me of new text messages and the Play Store wouldn't do automatic updates. Still, if you can live without these features, that might be another option for you until Google gets their stuff fixed.
Sent from CAMACHO, my Verizon G2 (VS980) running PAC ROM 4.3.
Vepaot said:
As far as debloating goes, I recommend installing a modified stock ROM, such as Malladus. That way you don't have to compile a list of things that can or can't be removed.
If my previous fix doesn't work, try downloading an app such as Better Battery Stats ($2.89) or Wakelock Detector (free). They will tell what's keeping your phone awake.
And then you can use an app like Greenify to prevent specific pesky apps from waking your phone and causing massive battery drain. You can use Greenify to stop Google apps as well, but it will prevent notifications from all of their apps. For example, instead of disabling Location Services on my phone, I prevented Google Maps and Google Play Services from causing wakelocks. Which worked great to keep my battery running, but it also prevented Google Voice from notifying me of new text messages and the Play Store wouldn't do automatic updates. Still, if you can live without these features, that might be another option for you until Google gets their stuff fixed.
Sent from CAMACHO, my Verizon G2 (VS980) running PAC ROM 4.3.
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I will give it some thought on using either a modified or custom ROM. I have not yet tried that with any phone I have had before because I'm afraid that normal phone functions might not work. That and I did not have too much experience in messing with ROMs, but I have now done so on my tablets. Though I might still look for a list just in case.
I will look into these two apps to see how they might work and if they will be any benefit. I have heard of a couple other apps to try and extend the battery life as well.
I might look into Greenify as well. It sounds like it could have its use, but I'm not sure I would really use it as such. I did enjoy using Google Now, but I used it mostly for the weather. I can get any other random weather app and probably be just as fine. I don't think I ever used Location Services for anything else other than Google Now or Maps. Which if I need to use the GPS, I can turn it on once again.
Is using such apps like SetCPU a good idea? Or does that make things worse?

Absurd battery drain

Hi guys I'm really depressed because my phone is not working as it should be. There is a problem that appeared two weeks ago, my battery is having a massive drain with no apparently reason. I already tried everything, from installing a custom rom, deactivate all bloatware and Google Apps, installing different firmwares from Samsung, made several factory resets, changed my sim card, among other things. Even if I keep WiFi, mobile data, GPS, sync and all other things off, or even if I put on airplane mode and ultra power saving, that doesn't avoid my phone's battery to drain about 30% on a single night when I go to sleep and at a rate of 10% per hour in the morning. Looking at the battery usage the process that is giving me problems is gpsd which I don't know what it is. The rare thing is that if I remove my sim card this doesn't happen, or when I reset the phone with the sim in and don't activate mobile data my phone behaves normally but when I turn on data this starts happening again. Also I notice that almost never goes to deep sleep. The phone's model is G900h by the way. Here are some screens I took so you can look at this problem. I would really appreciate if you could help me because I am dying here, I rooted the phone and triggered Knox counter so I sadly lost my guarantee.
Anyone?
Do you use Google maps? It may be running in the background and draining your battery. Try disabling maps in settings and see if that fixes it
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http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=4886
This link has some info on the problem, have you gone to location settings in your phone and Google settings and turned everything off related to location such a location reporting?
Yes I did turned everything off regarding location settings. I disabled maps and everything that may be using GPS. I'm sure it's not an app I have installed because I made a factory reset and disabled several bloatware and Google Apps. But I tried something drastic, with root manager I made a copy of the gpsd file on my SD and erase it from my phone. I hope that would solve this hirritating problem
steppenwolf1984 said:
the process that is giving me problems is gpsd which I don't know what it is.
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steppenwolf1984 said:
Anyone?
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How can you not know what gpsd is when the simplest Google search would tell you? A reasonable person would have tried a search before posting as one would reasonably expect that there is a wealth of information in existing threads for most subjects. A ten second search will answer most questions (including this one).
Google search: android gpsd
Gpsd is as you would expect from the name is probably a GPS daemon. And it's unlikely to be the culprit. Rather whatever process calls gpsd will be at fault. That is probably some program that tries to frequently check it's location or otherwise poll the GPS status. Which is supported by your observation that the problem disappears if you remove your SIM card. At the top of the list is Google now or related Google programs that are infamous for this behaviour.
Google cares a lot more about tracking your location and targeting ads at you than your battery life. A forum search will find detailed information about how to fix the issue to markedly reduce battery use in existing threads. In short by restricting the Google app's permissions. Or search my post history, I wrote about this at length a hundred or so posts back.
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I'm sure you've already done that, but take a look at what apps/processes are running on your phone. Perhaps one of them is (part of) the problem?
Check your wakelocks,
Go get wakelock detector and let it run and see whats triggering your phone.
Never had the gpsd issue.
18 hours with 37 percent left?
You're doing pretty well,
did you manage to solve that problem? i have the same problem, even when i disable all location services it keeps draining my battery. I installed wakelock detector but it says it doens't work on kitkat.
Yes I did, thanks very much to all of you for your help. The culprit for this problem in my case was one of the Google apps. I only root my phone so to be able to uninstalled every gapp with titanium backup and then download the ones I needed from the play store
steppenwolf1984 said:
Yes I did, thanks very much to all of you for your help. The culprit for this problem in my case was one of the Google apps. I only root my phone so to be able to uninstalled every gapp with titanium backup and then download the ones I needed from the play store
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did you find out wich of the gapps was the culprit? did you try disabling it instead of rooting to uninstall?

[Q] Android OS high battery use, no apparent wake locks

All of a sudden, my battery life went from awesome to crap like it does from time to time after something gets updated. At first the culprit was Google Play Services so I started hacking away services and receivers using 3C Toolbox which made the problem worse. So I backed up all my user apps that I use, wiped, and re-installed PA 6/20 build with the latest pico GApps. Google Play services had a good wakelock on the system so I disabled the SystemUpdateActiveReceiver and SystemUpdateSecretReceiver with AutoRunManager (SystemUpdateReceiver was already disabled). That solved the Google Play services wakelock but now I am left with Android OS crushing my battery, but no listed wake locks. CPU Spy reports a few seconds of deep sleep, if any. Here is some info from Battery and WLD. These were taken after I charged 100% before bed, and had most of my user apps frozen with Root App Delete, wifi, data, and location off.
jst07 said:
All of a sudden, my battery life went from awesome to crap like it does from time to time after something gets updated. At first the culprit was Google Play Services so I started hacking away services and receivers using 3C Toolbox which made the problem worse. So I backed up all my user apps that I use, wiped, and re-installed PA 6/20 build with the latest pico GApps. Google Play services had a good wakelock on the system so I disabled the SystemUpdateActiveReceiver and SystemUpdateSecretReceiver with AutoRunManager (SystemUpdateReceiver was already disabled). That solved the Google Play services wakelock but now I am left with Android OS crushing my battery, but no listed wake locks. CPU Spy reports a few seconds of deep sleep, if any. Here is some info from Battery and WLD. These were taken after I charged 100% before bed, and had most of my user apps frozen with Root App Delete, wifi, data, and location off.
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Just bought a G2 today, and have been using it for some hours but i have the same problem as you.. will have to look for a solution, or maybe try a return..
Ev0luti0n_ said:
Just bought a G2 today, and have been using it for some hours but i have the same problem as you.. will have to look for a solution, or maybe try a return..
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See or it's maybe related to google play services, click on it and see if there are maybe any related things. If you are going to return your phone for this reason then I don't get you cause this is just a awesome phone. Try to maybe do a factory reset if nothing works.
Ev0luti0n_ said:
Just bought a G2 today, and have been using it for some hours but i have the same problem as you.. will have to look for a solution, or maybe try a return..
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My phone still says it's awake all the time and Google play services is using the Lions share of my battery, however I am getting about 2 days out of my battery like I used to before this problem. It's annoying, but I don't think it's that bad. You can try disabling those 2 receivers with auto run manager like I did but if your battery is even worse after that I would just re-enable them and leave it.
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See or it's maybe related to google play services, click on it and see if there are maybe any related things. If you are going to return your phone for this reason then I don't get you cause this is just a awesome phone. Try to maybe do a factory reset if nothing works.
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The phone was bought off as the last one on the store. Worten, in Portugal. So it was a demo phone. I have no idea, for how long the phone was plugged in to the charger, being demo'ed. I am afraid the batttery has lost some of it's power. Nonetheless, i will use it for a few days and then return it for warranty if i don't think it's in prime condition...
Also, i had an HTC HD2 with custom rom, then moved to a Galaxy S2 with a custom rom as well (AOSP 4.4.2 with Cyanogen) and now i am using the stock LG rom. I can't say exactly that it sucks, but for sure i prefer the stock AOSP experience with the right tweeks.
Well, a patently I got 6:55, and 33 hours of phone usage on my first experience with the car phone. I used 3g, wife, and web browsing. I don't know if it's good, but I highly doubt it...

Wakelocks

Well, I've been searching for days on this so hopefully someone here has some insight on this.
I'm having some pretty bad wakelock issues, and I can't figure out what's causing this. I'd rather not root the device, since I have Nexus Protect and don't want to risk voiding that, so the tools I'm left with to figure out what's causing this are a bit primitive.
I read somewhere that Bluetooth scanning can cause wakelock issues like this, so I turned that off yesterday. So far today, the results are the same.
Screenshots: http://imgur.com/a/HltQ7
As you can see, I've barely been using the thing at all, and yet it's been awake almost constantly since I left for work this morning. As far as widgets, all I'm using are Google Clock, Google Calendar, and Weather Timeline. I have multiple Google accounts connected to the phone, but only one with synced items (and only what's absolutely necessary. Naturally, I've cleared app cache and system cache and rebooted, and I do not have Facebook or Messenger installed.
To be fair, we need a little more info including the build you're on. The changes you're making are small and clearly not changing anything for you. The multiple accounts are a possibility, and you could try syncing them and then turning sync off, or deleting them and beginning again. You could try booting in safe mode and testing it that way.
Personally, I'd back up the device, unlock the bootloader, flash the latest factory image and set up again (which is often el goog's advice) to see if the issue recurs. If it does you relock the bootloader and get onto Nexus Protect.
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Well, I've been searching for days on this so hopefully someone here has some insight on this.
I'm having some pretty bad wakelock issues, and I can't figure out what's causing this. I'd rather not root the device, since I have Nexus Protect and don't want to risk voiding that, so the tools I'm left with to figure out what's causing this are a bit primitive.
I read somewhere that Bluetooth scanning can cause wakelock issues like this, so I turned that off yesterday. So far today, the results are the same.
Screenshots: http://imgur.com/a/HltQ7
As you can see, I've barely been using the thing at all, and yet it's been awake almost constantly since I left for work this morning. As far as widgets, all I'm using are Google Clock, Google Calendar, and Weather Timeline. I have multiple Google accounts connected to the phone, but only one with synced items (and only what's absolutely necessary. Naturally, I've cleared app cache and system cache and rebooted, and I do not have Facebook or Messenger installed.
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Unfortunately you're not going to be able to properly investigate what's causing the wakelocks without root. Any accurate app that can investigate this, like BetterBatteryStats, requires root.
so it seems that google search is the number one thing killing your battery. Try disabling that for a day or two and see how your battery fairs.
Like others have said, you can't really find out what specifically is causing the wakelock without root. Rooting your nexus will not affect your nexus protect warranty. You can restore it to stock very easily by flashing system in fastboot
Well I bit the bullet and rooted my device today, so I'll be able to take a closer look at this after normal use tomorrow - but currently I'm thinking it could be due (at least in part) to my workplace WiFi configuration. On my home network the wakelocks are pretty normal, but whenever I'm on the workplace WiFi it's held awake constantly. Upon disabling WiFi I'm seeing FAR more reasonable Awake frequency/times: http://imgur.com/dYstikJ
Amplify, greenify and autostarts, sort of deals with everything.
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Also I wouldn't leave bbs or battery monitors on your phone when you're not wake lock hunting. As they tend to burn battery themselves
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Amplify, greenify and autostarts, sort of deals with everything.
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Also I wouldn't leave bbs or battery monitors on your phone when you're not wake lock hunting. As they tend to burn battery themselves
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BBS doesn't sap battery at all. Well, not enough to matter anyway.
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BBS doesn't sap battery at all. Well, not enough to matter anyway.
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That's actually not true
It definitely had an impact.
My point is, don't leave it on there is you've found the issue. There is no point.
dladz said:
That's actually not true
It definitely had an impact.
My point is, don't leave it on there is you've found the issue. There is no point.
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Show me some corroborating data on this and I'll eat my words. I agree that there are some battery apps out there that waste a lot of resources (I'm looking at you, Cheetah Mobile), but BBS is not one of them.
dladz said:
That's actually not true
It definitely had an impact.
My point is, don't leave it on there is you've found the issue. There is no point.
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Just to further clarify what I'm saying, the app doesn't run in the background, it only runs when you open it and simply retrieves the data that is already generated at a system level. From the OP in the BBS thread:
BetterBatteryStats is calling the "batteryinfo" service of Android to retrieve data already lying there without generating overhead. Since Kitkat Google has revoked the permission for normal apps to access these stats (without valid reasons IMHO). You can read more about that here.
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Heisenberg said:
Show me some corroborating data on this and I'll eat my words. I agree that there are some battery apps out there that waste a lot of resources (I'm looking at you, Cheetah Mobile), but BBS is not one of them.
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Mate I will have to do some looking into it. I already removed the application as I saw it burn down battery more as it was installed, why would I say it if it wasn't true lol, how do I benefit here?
I bought the app. Its not an apk and I'm not trying to be disrespectful here either but I saw drain. It's going to be a pain and I have very little time anyway in my life but ok. I'll get you some proof.
Actively collaborating data on that level has to have an implication on power, if it's symptoms reading a file then why do we need the app? Why not just read the file ourselves?
That's not me suggesting it, that's just common sense, surely you can see that prior to me proving it.
dladz said:
Mate I will have to do some looking into it. I already removed the application as I saw it burn down battery more as it was installed, why would I say it if it wasn't true lol, how do I benefit here?
I bought the app. Its not an apk and I'm not trying to be disrespectful here either but I saw drain. It's going to be a pain and I have very little time anyway in my life but ok. I'll get you some proof.
Actively collaborating data on that level has to have an implication on power. That's not me suggesting it, that's just common sense, surely you can see that prior to me proving it.
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See my other reply. The app only runs when you open it and it refreshes then and only then, no running in the background. It's pulling existing data that's already generated by the OS. Sure, it uses power, I'm not denying that (any app has to use power). What I'm saying is it only uses power when you're actually in the app, nowhere near enough to have a noticeable impact on battery life.
Heisenberg said:
See my other reply. The app only runs when you open it and it refreshes then and only then, no running in the background. It's pulling existing data that's already generated by the OS. Sure, it uses power, I'm not denying that (any app has to use power). What I'm saying is it only uses power when you're actually in the app, nowhere near enough to have a noticeable impact on battery life.
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I don't deny what you're saying. All I know is it uses power mate. Why have something running when you've anyway used it to fix what you can?
Amplify does a better job on its own.
dladz said:
I don't deny what you're saying. All I know is it uses power mate. Why have something running when you've anyway used it to fix what you can?
Amplify does a better job on its own.
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It doesn't claim to save any power, it's simply a tool for investigating power usage. I run it constantly, I use it to check how often certain apps are waking, or to check screen-on time and the amount of time the phone is awake while not actually in use. The point I'm making is it's virtually impossible for this app to use an amount of power that would have a noticeable impact on battery life, because of the fact that it only runs when you actually open it. You open it, it gathers existing data that has already been collected external to the app, you view the data, you close the app, it's no longer running.
Amplify is a completely different app, and it actually does have to run in the background, so if anything Amplify would use significantly more power than BBS.

[Q] S10+ Excessive Battery Drain

Hey all,
Recently got my S10+ replaced under insurance (dropped it about 10 stories), and have since rooted it (magisk).
I get a crazy amount of battery drain, up to 35% an hour when using spotify (and Viper4Android). I get high CPU alerts constantly from google play services, even overnight when charging and not touching at all. Device runs very very hot too.
Just want to ask whether anyone else has had this problem before taking it back and asking for a new phone. Seems like a faulty phone but don't want to rule out a bad flash
Cheerio
I suppose bthat you are rooted, since using viper... Use battery stats to se exactly what is the problem, is it kernel or app related... Either ways, good quick start would be cash clear from recovery and network reset... If still draining, force stop than delete data for gplay, services and google framework this will log you out
DSX2 said:
Hey all,
Recently got my S10+ replaced under insurance (dropped it about 10 stories), and have since rooted it (magisk).
I get a crazy amount of battery drain, up to 35% an hour when using spotify (and Viper4Android). I get high CPU alerts constantly from google play services, even overnight when charging and not touching at all. Device runs very very hot too.
Just want to ask whether anyone else has had this problem before taking it back and asking for a new phone. Seems like a faulty phone but don't want to rule out a bad flash
Cheerio
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I'd feel pretty stupid if I rooted a phone and then considered taking it back because of battery drain. I don't know how anyone could say it seems like a faulty phone when they apparently immediately rooted it without testing the battery life. I'd suggest learning how to use a phone before rooting it and then claiming the sky is falling. Unbelievable.
Tel864 said:
I'd feel pretty stupid if I rooted a phone and then considered taking it back because of battery drain. I don't know how anyone could say it seems like a faulty phone when they apparently immediately rooted it without testing the battery life. I'd suggest learning how to use a phone before rooting it and then claiming the sky is falling. Unbelievable.
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I've had rooted Android phones for the better part of 10 years. I also had the same problem BEFORE rooting, and flashed a custom OS to ensure the battery drain wasn't due to bloatware. In addition, if you read my post properly you would have noted that this is only an issue with a replaced S10, and was never a problem with the original S10, which means I am completely aware of battery usage life.
Keep your useless and misinformed comments to yourself.
DSX2 said:
Hey all,
Recently got my S10+ replaced under insurance (dropped it about 10 stories), and have since rooted it (magisk).
I get a crazy amount of battery drain, up to 35% an hour when using spotify (and Viper4Android). I get high CPU alerts constantly from google play services, even overnight when charging and not touching at all. Device runs very very hot too.
Just want to ask whether anyone else has had this problem before taking it back and asking for a new phone. Seems like a faulty phone but don't want to rule out a bad flash
Cheerio
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Yeah this problem is old as Android itself the way i dealt with it in the past is i used betterbatterystats app overnight let it record who and what is sucking the battery dry. In your case it seems google services framework is the problem (surprise surprise)
If i was in your shoes i would try what @Sparkynis suggested first, clear cache and data it will delete your google account restart the phone wipe cache in recovery and add your account again if the problem is still there then you might have an app that refuses to go to sleep
and it will show up in betterbatterystats. If that fails i would wipe everything start from scratch only adding your google account not installing any apps besides the betterbatterystats to see if it's the google services framework messed up or an app you have installed that is forcing a wakelock somehow.
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Yeah this problem is old as Android itself the way i dealt with it in the past is i used betterbatterystats app overnight let it record who and what is sucking the battery dry. In your case it seems google services framework is the problem (surprise surprise)
If i was in your shoes i would try what @Sparkynis suggested first, clear cache and data it will delete your google account restart the phone wipe cache in recovery and add your account again if the problem is still there then you might have an app that refuses to go to sleep
and it will show up in betterbatterystats. If that fails i would wipe everything start from scratch only adding your google account not installing any apps besides the betterbatterystats to see if it's the google services framework messed up or an app you have installed that is forcing a wakelock somehow.
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Thanks mate, did the battery stat's and it's the location alarm triggering a couple of times a second. Have reformatted and flashed multiple times and yet to fix the problem. Leaving location services off, however, does solve the problem.
This workaround works fine until I get my s20 but unfortunately I was not able to find the root cause. Faulty gps chip maybe? No idea.
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Thanks mate, did the battery stat's and it's the location alarm triggering a couple of times a second. Have reformatted and flashed multiple times and yet to fix the problem. Leaving location services off, however, does solve the problem.
This workaround works fine until I get my s20 but unfortunately I was not able to find the root cause. Faulty gps chip maybe? No idea.
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Try looking into Google Maps that app triggers location services ALOT even when not running, i have the Unlocked s10+ U1 and even i notice the same thing with Location off i lose 2% of battery overnight with it left on i lose about 9%
Do uninstall google maps and let me know if it's the same. Also i used to have an app called wakelock detector full i haven't used it since my gf bought me the s10+ last version i have is 2.0.4 last updated in 2017 lol but it helped me find apps and system services that are awake and using cpu alot maybe that will help you find the cause

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