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Collection and Description of Tasks / Services running on X10

As there are some Users running Task Killers to gain Battery life, everybody asks which service is doing what.
Unfortunately, there is no description (or have I been too dumb to search in this case? ), yet.
We started a collection of services running on my device.
Content was collected by:
noblackthunder
stamppot
me
Lets go on to determine together which is needed for what and so on...
Alarm Clock
Name says all. You wont get alarmed if that service is killed.
Low CPU usage. Takes around 8.4mb RAM.
Calender
Low CPU usage.
- 8.8 MB ram.
Checkin Service
Restarts immediately after getting killed.
com.android.providers.applications
com.android.providers.userdictonary
com.sonyericsson.android.bootinfo
com.sonyericsson.learningclient
Restarts immediately after getting killed.
Consumes around 8.2 RAM and uses no CPU.
Dialer
Phone restarts if killed
Dialler Storage
Phone restarts if killed
Digital Clock
Syncs the system clock with the clock widgets.
Consumes around 10MB ram, low CPU usage
Download Manager
DRM Protected Content Storage
Email
Face Recognition Service
Enables Face Recognition in pictures and syncs the results.
Consumes low amount of CPU
Uses around 9mb of RAM.
Gmail Storage
Google Apps
Google Partner Setup
Google Settings Provider
IM
Market
Mediascape Plug-in manager
Handles plugins in MediaScape, such as PlayNow (or Spotify, as demonstrated in Norway).
Low CPU usage. Takes around 9mb of RAM.
Package Installer
Pico TTS
This is the Pico Text-to-Speech (Voice Synthesis) Language Installer built from the pre-1.6 open-source from android.git.kernel.org. This is intended for devices like ADP1, running the open-source Android 1.6 (Donut) release, that do not have access to the Android Market. Normally, when you click on Settings->Speech Synthesis->Install Voice Data, Android will attempt to connect to the Market and install this data. Without Market access, you can "adb install" this .apk instead. Requires an SD Card to be present, which is where the data is stored: /sdcard/svox/
SemcIME
This is the SonyEricsson on-screen keyboard.
Restarts immediately after getting killed as long no other Keyboard is in use.
Settings Storage
Restarts immediately after getting killed.
Service Account Provider
Settings
SNS Provider (Social network service provider)
Consumes around 9.3mb of RAM low CPU use.
Sync Feeds
Restarts immediately after getting killed.
Timescape
Uses much CPU when Timescape is used but else it consumes almost no CPU when its unused. Consumes around 12 MB ram.
Timescape Plug-In manager
Timescape Provider
Consumes low CPU... Uses around 9.4 MB ram.
Wiper App
Uses 8.3 MB RAM, low CPU usage.
Please post any missing tasks and descriptions if you got.
I'll start posting/editing descriptions as soon as I'm at home this eve.
An alphabetical order will also be edited soon.
@cvchetan: Sticky for Guide Sub Area please

her is the list of applications i dont kill, with my best discription on what they are as mutch as i can unsderstand
COM.SONYERICSSON.LEARNINGCLIENT
an se service ... somthing about learning how you use your phone ...( is not kilt by me) consums around 8.2 ram and use no cpu
DIGITAL CLOCK (digital klokke on my phone that is norwegian)
syncs the system clocl with the clock widgeds. consums around 10MB ram .. low cpu usage
FACE RECOGNITION SERVICE .. the name tels what its doing ... consums low amount of cpu ... use around 9 mb of ram
SNS PROVIDER ( socian network service provider) is used for facebook and twiter i think .. (may be somthing else) consums around 9.3 MB of ram low cpu use
TIMESCAPE ( the time scape program itself) use mutch cpu when time scape is used but else it consums almost no cpu when its unused. consums around 12 MB ram
TimeSCAPE PROVIDER ( i think that program may be used for talking with the sns provider for syncing facebook twitter and pic) consums low cpu ... use around 9.4 MB ram
WIPER APP ( i think that clears some ram) use 8.3 MB ram, low cpu use
ALARM ( if you kill it your alarm wont work !!!!! clear ??? = low cpu use... use around 8.4 MB ram
CALENDER ( if you kill your calender wont work proper) low cpu use ... use around 8.8 MB ram
MEDIASCAPE PLUG-IN MANAGER ( manages media scape some how ) low cpu use ..use around 9 mb of ram
TIME SCAPE Plug-IN MANAGER ( same as media scape plug-in manager but for time scape)
this are the programs i can se run on my phone and should not be killt if you want every extra from se to work. and i think they schould defently be excludet from task killers ..
i cant se anny other programs that would run on a clean x10 phone.i use system panel taskmanager. other task killer may show more than this one
im pretty shure the most off you knew this already but ... there is always someone who dont know what even these small task do so this is why i wrote this reply if sombody was wondering
sorry for the bad english :S im a german who lives in norway
EDIT :
just try to awnser what i think the other prosseses are =P
# Settings Storage
Restarts immediately after getting killed.
handels SD card
# SemcIME
Restarts immediately after getting killed.
think have to do somthing with sim card?
# Dialler Storage
Phone restarts if killed
( handels sms and mms .. not shure )
# Dialer
Phone restarts if killed
(i think this may handel phone conection like calls??? )
# Package Installer
handels applikation install and uninstal?
# Market
market app
and so on .. the other aps say what they are
# com.android.providers.userdictonary
handels dictonary ?
# com.sonyericsson.android.bootinfo
???
# Download Manager
handels downloads
# DRM Protected Content Storage
for DRM protectet media = mp3 and so on
# Google Partner Setup
dont know?
# Service Account Provider
handels login to google acount???
# Pico TTS
found this on the interwebs :
This is the Pico Text-to-Speech (Voice Synthesis) Language Installer built from the pre-1.6 open-source from android.git.kernel.org. This is intended for devices like ADP1, running the open-source Android 1.6 (Donut) release, that do not have access to the Android Market. Normally, when you click on Settings->Speech Synthesis->Install Voice Data, Android will attempt to connect to the Market and install this data. Without Market access, you can "adb install" this .apk instead. Requires an SD Card to be present, which is where the data is stored: /sdcard/svox/
the most things are on that list ist only what i think i could mean ... it dose not mean that it is that what i say

Some more info on your list
noblackthunder said:
MEDIASCAPE PLUG-IN MANAGER ( manages media scape some how ) low cpu use ..use around 9 mb of ram
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Handles plugins in MediaScape, such as PlayNow (or Spotify, as demonstrated in Norway)
noblackthunder said:
# SemcIME
Restarts immediately after getting killed.
think have to do somthing with sim card?
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This is the SonyEricsson on-screen keyboard.
noblackthunder said:
# Dialler Storage
Phone restarts if killed
( handels sms and mms .. not shure )
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Not completely sure, but fairly certain that this handles storage of call logs.
Hope this helps!

Hi Guys, thanks for you input.
I edited my post.
noblackthunder said:
sorry for the bad english :S im a german who lives in norway
# Pico TTS
found this on the interwebs :
This is the Pico Text-to-Speech (Voice Synthesis) Language Installer built from the pre-1.6 open-source from android.git.kernel.org. This is intended for devices like ADP1, running the open-source Android 1.6 (Donut) release, that do not have access to the Android Market. Normally, when you click on Settings->Speech Synthesis->Install Voice Data, Android will attempt to connect to the Market and install this data. Without Market access, you can "adb install" this .apk instead. Requires an SD Card to be present, which is where the data is stored: /sdcard/svox/
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Easy. Any help is better than no help at all.
I'm a German in Switzerland. I guess the language border is as big as it is in Norway *justkidding*. Hope no Swiss reads this *duckandcover*
stamppot said:
Not completely sure, but fairly certain that this handles storage of call logs.
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Do you guys have more proven descriptions?
I don't like to put "guesses" into that collection.
Next step is to marker "Secure to Kill", "To your choice and if needed or not" and "Do never Kill that" Tasks.

McKebapp said:
Hi Guys, thanks for you input.
I edited my post.
Easy. Any help is better than no help at all.
I'm a German in Switzerland. I guess the language border is as big as it is in Norway *justkidding*. Hope no Swiss reads this *duckandcover*
Do you guys have more proven descriptions?
I don't like to put "guesses" into that collection.
Next step is to marker "Secure to Kill", "To your choice and if needed or not" and "Do never Kill that" Tasks.
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It depends on whether or not I get access to froyo sources today...
Sent from my X10i using XDA App

stamppot said:
It depends on whether or not I get access to froyo sources today...
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Uhm.. sorry.. I didn't get that one

McKebapp said:
Uhm.. sorry.. I didn't get that one
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I don't have the sources of Android installed on my laptop here. When I typed this, Google was uploading the new sources for Froyo. I meant to indicate that I can be sure of the function of Dialler Storage when I download the sources of Android and search for it in there.
I just haven't done so so far....

stamppot said:
I don't have the sources of Android installed on my laptop here. When I typed this, Google was uploading the new sources for Froyo. I meant to indicate that I can be sure of the function of Dialler Storage when I download the sources of Android and search for it in there.
I just haven't done so so far....
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Ahhh... ok...
Could you please be that kind, to look up the missing things?
You seem to found a way, to get the descriptions.

It's fairly easy to just check out the tree from the SDK and start grepping. Decompilation FTW.

Accounts & Sync and RAM

I noticed something funny while setting up my wildfire.I found out that disabling the automatic sync for all accounts (except the weather) from the accounts & sync menu frees a lot of ram and makes the phone run very smooth and fast.I have now 150mb of ram free (instead of 60mb i had before disabling the account syncing).This is how the accounts & sync menu looks like now in my phone.

I only sync Facebook&gmail

Actually, I've read on Lifehacker in an article about why task killers are not so good for Android , that having lots of free RAM doesn't help that much.
I don't have a link to the article right now but basically it explains that Android knows very well how to handle applications and free up RAM all by itself and that actually closing applications when you know for sure that they will pop up again is not such a good ideea. Because applications, when closing or starting, use more CPU cycles than when they stay open (somewhat in a suspended state in the RAM) and that leads to faster draining speed of your battery.

I sync everything manually (only the weather is auto) anyway so i dont have a problem.I use task killer only for certain apps (like games,opera,).Every system app (and apps like friends stream,news,email,messages ect.) is ignored by the task killer.

I heard about that thing with the free ram too.
First it seems very stupid why much free RAM could me bad, but then I just tried some things myself.
On my Kaiser I'm running a vanilla Android 2.1 (Polymod) and 1min after startup I have only 5mb of free RAM, but anyways I can use the phone for days and doesn't even recognize that it is nearly out of RAM it runs nearly as good and fast as the Wildfire, the only thing you can recognize are the 100MHZ less CPUspeed.
So if you think about that maybe 60mb of free RAM are as good as 160 and also as good as 6. (That would fit the things the normal Linux kernel shows us too)
Maybe someone who knows more about Dalvik VM and how the Android patched kernel handels the RAM should confirm or deny this, but I think that the idea that the amount of free RAM doesn't really matters should be right.

The fact that more ram is available means that some services do not execute.That could mean that the processor handles less processes,so the phone is more responsive.My point is that all the syncing processes seem to slow down the phone.Or is it just my idea?
I 'm using the Ruu 1.37 rom.

memory management

Just thought i should share this...
I have been running MIUI for quite a long time now , but the amount of RAM available gets very low with usage..sometime even 32MB . So I had to kill the background services to get more RAM as.. with less RAM phone becomes very laggy
Yesterday I found one app "AutoKiller Memory Optimizer"....its not a task killer...it manages memory.
This app just did the trick...my phone is not at all laggy now...and RAM available is in range of 100 now.
I used optimized preset ...no other change.
I think free one does not have presets
Here are the settings preset gave me, if you want to manually change in free version
foregorund app 6
visible app 8
secondary serve 16
hidden app 40
content provider 50
empty app 60
I think any one with ram issue should try it.

My wife and I had Motorola Milestones before the Vibrants and they had extremely low memory with this (which is where I learned so much about memory and battery management). When I say low, I mean 256mb total. So that meant on start up, we could get about 60-80 free RAM and then once the processes started and it settled down, it hovered around 55-60. That is not a lot when it comes to everyday "fun" stuff. I have been using AKMO for sometime now and I agree that if you are having memory problems (I forgot where my keys are), then this is a good app for you.
Some things though.
To start out, you should use the presets. Optimum is a great place to start.
Once you get the hang of it and what it does, switch to Strict. It ups the page settings.
Then if you think you know what you are doing, go into settings and hit advanced tweaks and you can adjust the settings for all 6 delineations. **If you do this, do not set it to auto-start at boot until you know that your custom settings will work correctly. It also has a 2 minute delay to start after boot for this very reason.**
These are my settings for my wifes Motorola 16,16,64,64,70,94
And finally. AKMO does NOT play nicely with Supercharger. So it is a one or the other type thing. Some people don't use Supercharger or don't understand it. For those types this is a good app for you.

SM-N900 RAM Usage

Hi All
I have an SM-N900 (exynos variant) running 4.4.2 XXUDNB2.
I am usually never bothered about the RAM usage even if it shows very high value regularly. While typing this msg I checked and it was 2.37 out of 2.66. I trust android itself to do the necessary memory management !!!
What I have been seeing recently is this :
Dolphin is trying to load a page... maybe lots of pic nd all.... while doing this if I try to bring down the notification bar, ir does come down but gets stuck on the way.... similarly if I try to scroll the page it gets stuck while doing it.... essentially it is not at all smooth...
Now, if I just launch the task manager, clear some memory and retry, everything works smoothly...
The Note 3 is supposed to be a beast.... when the beast stutters in front of my friends its rather annoying/embarrassing at times !!!
Anyone seeing something similar ?

stanzlavos said:
Hi All
I have an SM-N900 (exynos variant) running 4.4.2 XXUDNB2.
I am usually never bothered about the RAM usage even if it shows very high value regularly. While typing this msg I checked and it was 2.37 out of 2.66. I trust android itself to do the necessary memory management !!!
What I have been seeing recently is this :
Dolphin is trying to load a page... maybe lots of pic nd all.... while doing this if I try to bring down the notification bar, ir does come down but gets stuck on the way.... similarly if I try to scroll the page it gets stuck while doing it.... essentially it is not at all smooth...
Now, if I just launch the task manager, clear some memory and retry, everything works smoothly...
The Note 3 is supposed to be a beast.... when the beast stutters in front of my friends its rather annoying/embarrassing at times !!!
Anyone seeing something similar ?
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Well just remeber that your phone its like a pc, if your running several apps on the background the system will run of memory for other apps, its try android manage memory and all but if it doesnt have free memory to load up an app, it will close some to free ram and that will cause lag on the phone, my recomendation is to look on the running apps tab and check witch apps at runing and close/froze the ones that u dont use to clear up some ram, im usually at 600 free ram all the time, if i clear ram i get almost 1gb free. so you should check what apps are messing with you.

[Q] [Help] Poor Multi-Tasking experience

Hello everyone.
My issue is rather simple.
I used to have a Galaxy S3 that had a really poor multi-tasking experience with its very limited 1Gb of RAM.
So I bought the Note 3 that was bound to provide me with enough RAM for a better multitasking experience.
So far it was OK and way better than S3 capability but then KitKat came along and this is where my nightmare began.
Simply put, I cannot take benefit of the 3Gb of RAM I have on my device.
My Galaxy Note 3 is the international version bought in France with a Snapdragon S800 and 3Gb of RAM.
During my every day usage, I ofently switch between a certain sets of applications so to me, it is very important that these applications are not killed.
My original settings :
OOM is untouched, though I tried to set it to light with System Tuner but it did not help.
I have a few services that are launched when the device boot : Network Speed to measure bandwith in real time, OS Monitor to display CPU and RAM usage in real time as well and finally System Tuner.
Under develpoment options in the Settings, the limit of apps in background is set to standard (by default)
This is a sequence of test runs I made to show what is going on and why I deem my multitasking experience poor.
In the aim to offer accurate data, this is the list of apps I am using a lot :
app 1 = World War - a 2D non dynamic video game ;
app 2 = iMobster - same as above ;
app 3 = TweetCaster - a twitter client
app 4 = EvolveSMS - a SMS client. Can take a lot of RAM if many SMS are loaded (over thousands of SMS = 100Mb of RAM)
app 5 = Google Chrome - the web browser (not beta) with one tab loaded, two tabs saved but unloaded
Here we go.
Reboot phone -> 1.5Gb of free RAM (1.9Gb at the beginning then 1.5Gb in average after waiting for the aforementioned on-boot apps to be launched)
Launch app 1 -> 1.4Gb of free RAM
Launch app 2 -> 1.3Gb of free RAM
Launch app 3 -> 1.0Gb of free RAM
Launch app 4 -> 800Mb of free RAM
Launch app 5 -> 600Mb of free RAM
Upon each launch I waited for the app to be completely loaded (no splashscreen or loading screen). Then I check with both OS Monitor and System Tuner's widgets to check up the free RAM (sometimes their data differ, but not a lot ~100/200mb).
Repeating this particular sequence bears the same results : when launching app 5 (Google Chrome), app 1 and 3 are closed.
Some time only one of them. But most of the time two apps are closed.
Futhermore, I notice I can't not get less than 500Mb of free RAM. Unless I use Google Chrome to load heavy websites, there is no way than by launching more apps I will get under this limit.
Simply put, I cannot have more than 4 to 5 apps running in background.
I tried different ROMS :
- 2 based on Samsung KitKat ROMs : Jackyaway and S5 port V6. I have the same issue.
- CM 11. : too unstable at the time but perhaps better because the OS takes less RAM than Samsung.
So here I am.
When I was on Android 4.3, it was nice, Moving to 4.x is a disaster.
What can I do ? How is your experience ? How many apps do you manage to keep in the background ?

You are aware that the default setting for 'keep in background' equals 4?
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk 2

ShadowLea said:
You are aware that the default setting for 'keep in background' equals 4?
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk 2
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Then how can I change it ???

This is really common and isn't an issue. Android will cache a lot of resources in RAM. When that RAM space is needed, the cache is freed. Do not worry.

Colton127 said:
This is really common and isn't an issue. Android will cache a lot of resources in RAM. When that RAM space is needed, the cache is freed. Do not worry.
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Sorry but no.
How come ..
In Android 4.3 I had better multi-tasking experience (more apps in background) while having a smooth system ...
In Android 4.4,x I have an horrible multi-tasking experience (less apps in background).
I mean I have been doing more tests and it's driving me CRAZY ! After just rebooting my phone, I have about 1300Mb of FREE RAM and then after starting my 4 usual applications, it still have 1Gb of FREE RAM, why, please tell me why would Android feel the need to kill one of these apps after I launched a 5th one ?
This is getting ridiculous ! In what world could Android based on Linux kernel simply decide to kill my apps when it has 1Gb of FREE RAM !
When I was on 4.3 I could have ;
- my 2 2D video games
- my twitter client
- my SMS application
- chrome with 3 tabs opened
- play store opened,
- galerie displaying a picture
etc etc.. all stayed in background. They just got killed whenever I started a heavy application such as a 3D video game and in that case it's completely normal.
Heck I even recalled playing to Asphalt 7 then having a phone call while replying to an SMS (or checking my tweets) all at the same time.
Guess what I can do, now in KitKat ?
Oh god I hate my self for moving to kitkat. Makes me want to throw my phone away.

Search for zeppelinrox's V6 supercharger, I recall it has a feature to allow more apps to run in the background.
I am yet to do this myself, noticed the poor multitasking also.

Someguyfromhell said:
Search for zeppelinrox's V6 supercharger, I recall it has a feature to allow more apps to run in the background.
I am yet to do this myself, noticed the poor multitasking also.
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That could be a solution. I used in on my Galaxy S3 but it did little help since the phone was lame at the beginning.
I never believed I would use it again on the phone I deemed good for multitasking.
But I am glad to hear that I am not the only one thinking the same thing.
I will try the fix and post here my findings. Should you try the same thing, do not hesitate to share your experience here.

Bump
Quite some time have passed since my last post here ... but my problem remains still.
I've juste moved to Cynogen Mode 11 as of last Snapshot (stable) version.
Overall, the system is stable. Much faster, way smoother. I won't miss TouchWiz I think.
RAM usage is lower : now on boot with the same services I like to have, it sill have over 1.6Gb of free RAM.
That's quite a lote I would like to use, but still can't.
But I must be fair, my multitasking experience is slightly better. First because I can finally have other options to switch between apps other than by long-pressing the home button.
But also because it seems I can finally have a few more apps staying in the background.
When looking for solutions to my problem, I ran across this : RAM and multitasking...so bad.
I said : "finally, someone understanding me".
I read all replies, and this is what seems to come out : KitKat seems to have a built-in feature that auto-kills app whenever a limit of active apps is reached.
This limit is around 10 and 20. I don't know where this limit is set, how it is defined, where I can find, how I can change, and why it exists.
I believe V6 Supercharger did change that limit on Jelly Bean and ICS. I thought this limit disappeared in 4.3.... did it come back in 4.4 ?
Does it work on KitKat ?
Well, I hope someone here can help me. Thanks !

Bump to this. I have a Xperia Z3 Compact and experience the same problem... I never have this problem before with other devices in 4.3.. The multitask since Kitkat is just horrible.