So i just got my 8gb Nexus 7 and i LOVE it, although 8gb is not very much i figured a usb otg would do the trick.
My question is, can i run applications from a USB thumb drive? ive downloaded 2 games (Batman and Max Payne) and i'm left with a meager 1gb left for other apps.
No. This can store files on the USB device but apps which are installed are installed in main memory.
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So I just ordered my shield, remote, and micro sd. I'm really curious as to if I made a good combination of hardware. I picked up the 16gb version, nvidia remote, and the new fastest sandisk Mico sd. Here's my questions.
-I got the brand new sandisk uhs-ii u3 micro sd, I know the bus speed for micro SD on the shield is only rated uhs-1. Can I format it as adoptable storage using the USB 3.0 adapter so I can get the high speed the card is rated for or will I have to use the micro SD slot for adoptable storage and have my card speed throttled to the slower r/w bus speed. If this is the case should I have opted for a uhs-1 card for half the price
-I also have a USB 3.0 4TB external hard drive full of movies that I currently plug into my LG TV. It is formatted NTFS, will I be able to plug it into my shield and use it as my new media player since the one on my TV is kinda clunky. Can I read and write to NTFS on my shield?
- I also have an Samsung 840pro 250GB SSD in a USB 3.0 enclosure which is formatted exfat. Could this drive be used as adoptable storage via USB 3.0? Pretty much the same as question 1. Can adoptable storage be configured threw USB instead of micro SD, if this is the case do I really need the Micro SD card?
- Will a USB 3.0 hub work on the shield so I can plug in a dongle for a wireless keyboard, my 4TB drive, my SSD, and Micro SD in 3.0 adapter?
- Are the gaming controllers and remote Bluetooth or do they also require a USB receiver.
- Will rooting and installation of custom recovery and rom enable some of the features above that can't be achieved stock?
My needs for the device will be for gaming and playing my local video files and some kodi, so I would like enough storage to install many games. All of my large video files will be stored on my 4TB external. I was hoping to have all my games installed on device threw adoptable storage but would like to get the high speed from my SD card to run games
All answers and suggestions welcomed.
Should I have just opted for the 500GB pro shield?
Here's what I ordered
-also can I use a Xbox or Dualshock 4 controller instead of the included Nvidia one?
AndroiderM said:
So I just ordered my shield, remote, and micro sd. I'm really curious as to if I made a good combination of hardware. I picked up the 16gb version, nvidia remote, and the new fastest sandisk Mico sd. Here's my questions.
-I got the brand new sandisk uhs-ii u3 micro sd, I know the bus speed for micro SD on the shield is only rated uhs-1. Can I format it as adoptable storage using the USB 3.0 adapter so I can get the high speed the card is rated for or will I have to use the micro SD slot for adoptable storage and have my card speed throttled to the slower r/w bus speed. If this is the case should I have opted for a uhs-1 card for half the price
-I also have a USB 3.0 4TB external hard drive full of movies that I currently plug into my LG TV. It is formatted NTFS, will I be able to plug it into my shield and use it as my new media player since the one on my TV is kinda clunky. Can I read and write to NTFS on my shield?
- I also have an Samsung 840pro 250GB SSD in a USB 3.0 enclosure which is formatted exfat. Could this drive be used as adoptable storage via USB 3.0? Pretty much the same as question 1. Can adoptable storage be configured threw USB instead of micro SD, if this is the case do I really need the Micro SD card?
- Will a USB 3.0 hub work on the shield so I can plug in a dongle for a wireless keyboard, my 4TB drive, my SSD, and Micro SD in 3.0 adapter?
- Are the gaming controllers and remote Bluetooth or do they also require a USB receiver.
- Will rooting and installation of custom recovery and rom enable some of the features above that can't be achieved stock?
My needs for the device will be for gaming and playing my local video files and some kodi, so I would like enough storage to install many games. All of my large video files will be stored on my 4TB external. I was hoping to have all my games installed on device threw adoptable storage but would like to get the high speed from my SD card to run games
All answers and suggestions welcomed.
Should I have just opted for the 500GB pro shield?
Here's what I ordered
-also can I use a Xbox or Dualshock 4 controller instead of the included Nvidia one?
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Can anyone help with some of these questions? I canceled the 16gb version and opted for the pro. I also canceled the sandisk micro sd. Can I use my Samsung ssd in usb 3.0 enclosure as adoptable storage? Would I benefit any from it as far as load times on games or should I just install to internal 500gb drive? What are the advantages of a custom rom over rooted stock rom. With stock rooted rom can I install all the same apps from Google play or will I have more options with a custom rom? Also I see custom roms of full android 6.0 without nvidia skin overlay. Are there any real benefits this and will I lose any functionality? Any help is appreciated, responses please! I get my shield Tuesday.
Look through the forum and most of your questions will be answered, also, should have stuck with the 16gb
AndroiderM said:
So I just ordered my shield, remote, and micro sd. I'm really curious as to if I made a good combination of hardware. I picked up the 16gb version, nvidia remote, and the new fastest sandisk Mico sd. Here's my questions.
-I got the brand new sandisk uhs-ii u3 micro sd, I know the bus speed for micro SD on the shield is only rated uhs-1. Can I format it as adoptable storage using the USB 3.0 adapter so I can get the high speed the card is rated for or will I have to use the micro SD slot for adoptable storage and have my card speed throttled to the slower r/w bus speed. If this is the case should I have opted for a uhs-1 card for half the price
-I also have a USB 3.0 4TB external hard drive full of movies that I currently plug into my LG TV. It is formatted NTFS, will I be able to plug it into my shield and use it as my new media player since the one on my TV is kinda clunky. Can I read and write to NTFS on my shield?
- I also have an Samsung 840pro 250GB SSD in a USB 3.0 enclosure which is formatted exfat. Could this drive be used as adoptable storage via USB 3.0? Pretty much the same as question 1. Can adoptable storage be configured threw USB instead of micro SD, if this is the case do I really need the Micro SD card?
- Will a USB 3.0 hub work on the shield so I can plug in a dongle for a wireless keyboard, my 4TB drive, my SSD, and Micro SD in 3.0 adapter?
- Are the gaming controllers and remote Bluetooth or do they also require a USB receiver.
- Will rooting and installation of custom recovery and rom enable some of the features above that can't be achieved stock?
My needs for the device will be for gaming and playing my local video files and some kodi, so I would like enough storage to install many games. All of my large video files will be stored on my 4TB external. I was hoping to have all my games installed on device threw adoptable storage but would like to get the high speed from my SD card to run games
All answers and suggestions welcomed.
Should I have just opted for the 500GB pro shield?
Here's what I ordered
-also can I use a Xbox or Dualshock 4 controller instead of the included Nvidia one?
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techjunky90 said:
Look through the forum and most of your questions will be answered, also, should have stuck with the 16gb
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Yeah ended up swapping for 16gb again and gonna use my Samsung ssd adopted. Found the answers to most questions just trying to decide rather to flash full android m or just root factory firmware.
Why not the 500gb with adoptable though. Isn't it a hybrid drive or just a regular 5400rpm hdd
AndroiderM said:
Why not the 500gb with adoptable though. Isn't it a hybrid drive or just a regular 5400rpm hdd
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I think the drive is a Hybrid. Pretty good chance that NVIDIA just used a USB 3.0 to SATA chip to service that 500gb drive. So I see no reason why you couldn't have just done it yourself.
How do you know the device did not come with the remote already? I purchased the 16gb and decided I did not want the remote so I didn't buy it, yet surprisingly it was in the retail box anyway.
As far as I know it's just the shield and the controller in the box according to the Amazon description and pictures. They do sell a bundle that has the remote included but I'm pretty confident mine has no remote. You cannot add, change, or remove storage internally on the shield nvidia made sure of that.
Weather to Pro or not to Pro, you can find some more opinions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/shield-tv/help/buying-16gb-128gb-sdcard-500gb-t3399659
It all comes down to what you want to use the Shield for. If your installed games are not going to exceed those 16GB of flash (which of course will be less) I see no reason to get the Pro. Another valid point is the price difference: for the 100€ difference, I could get a 2-4 TB HDD.
On another note, I think you can find more answers around here: https://forums.geforce.com/default/board/159/shield-android-tv/
Yeah I was talking about getting a bigger usb 3.0 drive and using one of the included usb 3.0 ports. That's actually why they are there.
SkOrPn said:
Yeah I was talking about getting a bigger usb 3.0 drive and using one of the included usb 3.0 ports. That's actually why they are there.
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Gotcha I plan on it, I have a 256gb ssd in enclosure I want to use as adopted storage and a 4tb wd external for media storage
Personally speaking, for my family anyway I just add drives to the home server, or retire them for bigger ones. Building a Windows home server 5 years ago was the best thing I ever did for media consumption. Sadly I only have 3 SATA ports so I am limited to the amount of drives I can add
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One thing I forgot to mention: adding USB devices through a USB port will limit the speed and latency at which they are accessed.
OK how would you guys setup this is what I now have ordered and has already shipped so no going back. Idc if I use adoptable storage or not unless it benefits me. My usage will be downloading large torrent files and copying them to 4tb drive using shield as player, lots of large file gaming, kodi, Internet browsing and that's about it. Maybe hangouts
What I ordered:
Shield pro 500gb
Remote
Controllers
Bluetooth keyboard
Whatever I already have:
Samsung 256gb ssd
4tb wd my book
500gb hdd out of ps4
I wouldn't worry about adaptable storage. keep your external drives mounted as removable storage and have your apps and games all installed on your internal drive, keep the external drives just for media. I can't see you filling up 500gb with android apps and games any time soon.
Mr Creosote said:
I wouldn't worry about adaptable storage. keep your external drives mounted as removable storage and have your apps and games all installed on your internal drive, keep the external drives just for media. I can't see you filling up 500gb with android apps and games any time soon.
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Edit: I think I've got it figured out just gonna root stock rom and sideload whatever I can't get directly through playstore.
Anyway to copy existing downloaded roms that are on adoptive storage, and save them on removable storage or a pc?
Also, can you confirm my understanding of the storage situation. If I have an adoptive storage device with roms and games on it, it CANNOT be removed and installed on to another nvidia shield tv console and used as adoptive storage because it is reformatted during the process and will lose all the data, correct? However, can that adoptive storage device be removed and used as removable storage on a new nvidia console, without losing any roms or games?
Finally, if I have a new 16gb console, and a 128gb flash drive, and plan on playing roms on my console, which I have not downloaded yet. Should I download them first on the pc to a flash drive and then use that as removable storage on the nvidia shield tv? Will removable storage affect performance at all of the console? It won't run any applications from the removable storage, correct? It will only copy it and install it onto the adoptive storage device?
axxel6307 said:
Anyway to copy existing downloaded roms that are on adoptive storage, and save them on removable storage or a pc?
Also, can you confirm my understanding of the storage situation. If I have an adoptive storage device with roms and games on it, it CANNOT be removed and installed on to another nvidia shield tv console and used as adoptive storage because it is reformatted during the process and will lose all the data, correct? However, can that adoptive storage device be removed and used as removable storage on a new nvidia console, without losing any roms or games?
Finally, if I have a new 16gb console, and a 128gb flash drive, and plan on playing roms on my console, which I have not downloaded yet. Should I download them first on the pc to a flash drive and then use that as removable storage on the nvidia shield tv? Will removable storage affect performance at all of the console? It won't run any applications from the removable storage, correct? It will only copy it and install it onto the adoptive storage device?
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I have a 16gb shield tv , just yesterday I set up the roms & emulators. I used the retroarch app, I installed the following cores (emulators) : sega, snes, nes, n64. As for the storage I'm using a 64gb usb drive, I set it up as removable. I downloaded probably 200 plus roms yesterday, mainly nes :96. Retroarch cores run the games great, some of the cores are better than the other so you just need to choose which works best. Retroarch is fairly simple and straight forward on how to use it and load roms. Downloaded the roms to the usb and I have no issues with them.
I'm curious on how well the shield tv can run Wii , game cube games and psp. I doubt I'll use it but it could be nice to have. My main gaming device is the ps4 pro currently but I hardly use it. Thought about building a htpc but the shield tv was only $120 with game pad and remote.
I have a WD 4tb my passport external hard drive that has been giving problems with the shield tv ever since i bought. I bought it specifically for the shield as an internal storage device. ill format it as internal storage, a few days later, it cant recognize the HDD. when I go on kodi it says "waiting for external storage". it happens all the time. I thought if i power down the shield instead of sleep mode it would fix it, nope problems still there. can anyone help me. i dont want to buy a desktop external hdd because im not going to have use for this hdd after i paid for it already.
Any particular reason as to why you want to format it to be Internal?
Dont know what you're using to plug it in but try with another enclosure, cable and if using a usb hub in between then try pluging the hdd directly to the shield TV and make sure it receive the proper power to work. I've also read that the Shield tv has some issues handling with more than one partition in external hdd's.
4TB should work but google search for users that report success with 4tb+ HDD, I've seen up to 3tb around.
If still you can't make it work stable then contact nvidia support and create a thread at geforce forum.
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Hrm funny enough, my Nvidia Shield TV has killed 2 external hard drives now in this exact same situation... Both older mechanical hdds... I'm running a sector by sector scan on the most recent drive now...
I had the same problem, until finally my data got corrupted. I suspect the Shield didn't have the ability to consistently power the drive and other usb devices. Even using a powered hub.
I've since switched to a WD desktop external drive with its own AC adapter. I haven't had any issues in the month since I've done so.
In my case, I needed to format as internal storage to run a Plex DVR. It won't work as external storage.
Apologises if this is covered elsewhere but I couldn't find exactly the info.
My Shield 2017 16GB has less the 2GB of free space left so looking at adding additional storage. I know that I can add to internal and/or external. I know that internal will allow apps and movies to be saved locally but sometimes I'm away on business or leisure in a hotel and if saved as internal then I can't plug the USB3.0 HDD into the hotel TV or my laptop to watch a movie that I've downloaded.
Would I be better using an additional HDD as external storage allowing me to plug it into other devices to watch stuff or could I use Plex? Then I can leave the HDD at home at watch it remotely, this won't work though if the hotel TV hasn't got Plex on it?
I understand a USB3.0 flash drive doesn't like being used as a permanant external storage and often fail.
Just some advice, pro's and con's which way to go would be appreciated.
Thanks
I had shared hdd (nas or hdd) mounted to shield, Plex was happily using that as a storage. Plex database was on internal storage. I tried to connect hdd directly to shield, it was working fine as well.
If you leave your shield at home, then you are depending on hotel tv or you can buy cheap streaming box (like mi box). Shield is powerful enough to transcode on the fly. Only is pitty to leave powerful device at home. For example if you want to play games.
Btw, I have mi box as well and it was good streaming box before upgrade.
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Id get an addition SSD...use one for extra internal storage, and use one for external that you take with you..Best of both worlds.