Weird issue xtrons retractable won't switch off - Android Head-Units

Long story short.
Xtrons retractable headunit with usb connectivity issues. Keeps disconnecting usb devices.
Headunit connected correctly.
Usb dashcam and usb thumb drive. Kept losing usb devices. Ohh well... thought not enough power for both.
Bought Tpms sensors... I needed more usb. I got a powered usb hub so I could connect the lot on it and hope to solve the disconnecting issues.
Everything recognised. Not checked if everything disconnects yet.
Problem... Headunit will not switch off unless I physically unplug the usb hub from the power adaptor which is turning off as it is cigarette lighter powered....
Any ideas?
Thank you in advance

Update
If I remove the power adapter from the hub the headunit shuts down normally.
Still usb devices disconnects every couple of minutes.
Any ideas on how to solve this annoying issue?

How about hard wire the hub power into your ignition so it shuts off when the radio does.
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velocity4 said:
How about hard wire the hub power into your ignition so it shuts off when the radio does.
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Hub is 5v. I am using a 12to5v cigarette lighter adapter.
Cigarette lighter is ignition controlled and switches off normally. The weird thing is that the 12to5v adapter switches off but headunit will not switch off unless I unplug the hub from the 12to5v adapter.....

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Please help asap nexus 7 car install otg timurs usb not seeing usb power

I installed it in my dash and removing it is a pita it was working perfectly fine but for some reason it wasnt showings charge or turning off or on with the car it just stays on i tried restart nothing happens i tried unplugging usb from powergen and plugging back in no result
Also if i go to usb rom under fixed installation i am able to check box and uncheck also did nothing
I am using nexus 7, timurs usb rom, otg cable, original charging cable and powergen usb charger
Please help thanks
Anyone???
I'm also using Timur's kernel with USB ROM for my car installation. I know that it can be very picky on the order the USB plugs are added (data and power). It may seem simple but remove the the OTG cable from the tablet and remove both the data and power legs from the OTG as well. The follow the order listed by Timur on his website:
To activate charging, you must first connect your external power supply to your OTG Y-adapter - then plug the OTG adapter into your Nexus 7 - and then connect any slave devices.
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Hopefully that should get you back up and working. I completely understand how frustrating it is to have everything plugged in and see that tablet isn't charging, especially when its difficult to get to the Nexus itself.
does anyone have a easy charging solution these car chargers dont work
and a good otg y cable
You could try using a power inverter which will give you a standard US plug from the cigarette lighter. From here, you could plug in a regular outlet adapter. I found this to work pretty well with my own set up and managed to get one pretty cheap at Walmart. As for a good OTG y cable, your best bet is probably to go on Amazon and find one with a lot of good reviews. They can vary in quality and some of the cheap ones I've gotten from China have flaked out after a short time and little use.
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Not seeing usb power
I had the same issue. I was using a 90 degree adapter into an OTG cable and my n7 wouldn't go into fixed install mode. Turns out my adapter cable was stopping the n7 from recognizing power. I removed the 90 degree adapter and plugged straight to otg and it worked as advertised. The issue was found during my bench testing on a 12v powersupply. I still have to find a 90 degree otg cable that will work.
So... try a different cable or if you have an adapter between the otg y cable, that may be the issue.

Cant Figure This Out Using Tasker to Disconnect/Reconnect

Im using my Nexus 7 as my car radio with Timur's Rom but I have one problem. When the tablet goes into deep sleep mode, the tablet doesn't charge anymore unless I disconnect the otg y cable and reconnect it. I've been researching on how to fix this problem for a while now with no solution. I looked up all the settings in the rom and there is nothing to help with this. I also tried using tasker to simulate disconnecting and reconnecting the usb cable but couldn't figure it out. Anyone have any solutions that I could try? I have the otg y cable connected to the ignition wire and also to a constant power with a switch. The other end goes into the tablet and the other end goes into my portable hard drive. I hate having to manually removing the tablet from the dash and removing and plugging back in the usb otg cable

Apple Carplay dongle problem

So I bought a CarPlay dongle from eBay. Installed AutoKit on my Eonon GA2170 8.0. CarPlay works fine and smooth except the charging. It doesn’t charge my phone as i think because of low power from my unit.
Anyway, I bought a powered USB hub and connected that hub between Carplay Dongle and Unit and connected it to my car cigarette lighter socket via adapter to get external power. It charges my phone now along with playing CarPlay but it doesn’t let shut down my head unit when i turn my car off. Head unit literally stays on until i remove that powered hub from cigarette light socket.
Not sure what’s happening. My cigarette lighter socket usually turns off when I turn off my car but in this case both head unit and socket keeps running.
Is the USB Hub also sending reverse power into the HU USB ?
Yes i think so. But I don’t understand why it’s getting input from it and why it doesn’t let 12V Cig socket turn off?
Anyone got any clue?

Powered USB Hub that works with Android Head Units

Has anyone successfully used a Powered USB Hub with their Android Head Unit? I tried hooking up a TP-Link 7 port USB3 hub to my Dasaita head unit, but the hub is not recognised, and nor are any of the devices plugged into it. I would really like to hook up a powered hub for fast phone charging, as well as doing other normal hub stuff, like reading thumb drives etc. I also tried hooking up the TP-Link hub to my phone via OTG, but it doesn't recognise it either, so I'm guessing it's an Android thing.
Any ideas/suggestions/advice very much appreciated.
If I recall correctly, the unit doesn’t produce enough voltage to power a hub. You need one that’s externally powered and can be plugged in.
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If I recall correctly, the unit doesn’t produce enough voltage to power a hub. You need one that’s externally powered and can be plugged in.
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Yes, that's exactly what I am after, ie a Powered USB Hub.
I have a really cheap Chinese 4-port active USB hub from AliExpress connected to all my devices. It has 4 switches to activate/deactivate each single USB connector.
Powered by a 12V to 5V / 2 amp power adapter. Works like a charm.

SM-T510 Tab A 2019 10.1 Otg with charge and data?

Hello guys,
Does anyone knows if there is a otg cable/hub that can power the tablet and be able to use data like usb connected at the same time?
Thanks
The 2019 tablet does not need this, since the port is USB type C albeit USB 2.0; I have connected mine to a hub and have pass-through charging and data. OTG is not really a thing any more since USB type C came about.
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The 2019 tablet does not need this, since the port is USB type C albeit USB 2.0; I have connected mine to a hub and have pass-through charging and data. OTG is not really a thing any more since USB type C came about.
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Can you share the type of hub you have been used?
Is the charging speed fine?
Kingston Nucleum. This tablet is in my car and the hub receives power from a 12-14v converter providing USB C PD and USB 3.0 fast charge. Ultimately, the hub defaults charging voltage to that of the lowest device connected. In my case a Sandisk SSD and a Meizu HiFi DAC Pro. This generally means that charging is slow, however it depends on your configuration. I'd say that the charging speed is fine, however it only charges when the car is running or in accessory mode and the tablet is always on in that state. As such the excess power it uses to charge whilst running is only a little more than it uses. It might charge faster if I power the hub from the USB C PD port, however I don't know if this is just pure amps or whether it negotiates higher charging voltages. I don't know if the Nucleum hub allows negotiation of higher charging voltages.
Prostheta said:
Kingston Nucleum. This tablet is in my car and the hub receives power from a 12-14v converter providing USB C PD and USB 3.0 fast charge. Ultimately, the hub defaults charging voltage to that of the lowest device connected. In my case a Sandisk SSD and a Meizu HiFi DAC Pro. This generally means that charging is slow, however it depends on your configuration. I'd say that the charging speed is fine, however it only charges when the car is running or in accessory mode and the tablet is always on in that state. As such the excess power it uses to charge whilst running is only a little more than it uses. It might charge faster if I power the hub from the USB C PD port, however I don't know if this is just pure amps or whether it negotiates higher charging voltages. I don't know if the Nucleum hub allows negotiation of higher charging voltages.
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Nice, i'm using for the same purpose.
In my dash car
I'm also using MacroDroid for automation.
My issue right now is how should i leave the tablet when i turn ignition off.
I Think i will just shut it down, but i don't like to wait 30 seconds to but again when i turn it on.
What do you do in your case?
I'll have to check out MacroDroid. I'm currently set up with AutoMate, however there's a few annoyances which I think need ironing out. Vanilla Android Auto might not be the most exciting, but it's certainly the most friendly for driving safety.
I leave my tablet as-is. AutoMate automatically wakes the tablet into car mode on USB power and goes to sleep when it loses that. My car (Chrysler 300C) has accessory power for 30s (I think I can increase this in the EVIC) after the ignition is turned off which keeps the charger energised, and by extension the tablet. I'm not too bothered about having to boot up the tablet if it does discharge its battery to shutdown. I think it's maybe a week or so for it to do that, likely less when the tablet ages. As long as it charges and runs on the supply happily I think we're good. In that instance, I might have to see whether an auxiliary power bank would be a workable option. Not at this stage though. Bear in mind that most modern car head units still take about the same amount of time to boot as an Android tablet anyway.
I'm having minor USB issues myself, however this is down to the cable I need not being available. A lot of USB C "charging" cables are only pinned for power and not data. This might be part of any USB C issues you might be having. I myself need a USB C male with a tight 90° or 180° turn, out to a USB C female for the hub's pigtail. I might have to make the choice to fabricobble myself a USB cable just for this purpose....
This is a photo of the install, prior to me wrapping it in 3M brushed black steel vinyl.
I'm updating all of my comments in various threads on this. My setup with the Kingston Nucleum hubis having minor issues. The tablet still needs to be powered up before I turn on the car or at least supply power to the hub. It seems that if this is done the other way around, that is, to power on the car accessories (and hence the hub) then it seems to end up staying as the "device in charge" of the USB network. The tablet charges (slowly) but doesn't mount the USB SSD drive or the USB DAC. If the tablet is powering the hub (in charge, so to speak) then applying power to the hub via the car accessory supply has it working as expected. This does mean that the tablet ends up with a power drain when the car/USB power supply is powered down which isn't ideal. I've gotten into the habit of turning the tablet off when I park for long periods of time, however I need to boot it up to "take charge" of the USB hub network before I can start the car. It's a bit of a bummer.
I'm unsure whether this is a tablet hardware/software issue, the hub or whatever. Going into Android settings and trying to alter the default USB behaviour returns the message that it "cannot switch roles" or something along those lines. I'm beginning to think that this might be the USB hub refusing to switch/relinquish power supply roles once it has external power and hence not allowing the tablet to mount drives or see connected USB devices. It's weird behaviour, because you'd imagine that if the hub were connected to a laptop this would be a common action.
If it helps, I've read that OTG function is not included by Samsung for their device's USB ports. I've been trying to connect some together to perform file transfers with no success. However, I have been able to transfer and charge simultaneously between my SM-T510 tablet and PCs with the USB configuration set to file transfer.
Prostheta said:
The 2019 tablet does not need this, since the port is USB type C albeit USB 2.0; I have connected mine to a hub and have pass-through charging and data. OTG is not really a thing any more since USB type C came about.
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