The title of the thread is just to get all you fine people steaming in here to tell me off. But now your here by your own free will...
I've been a long time browser of these forums and recently a more active member. I used to be a very amateur coder when I was yonger and know to a small extent the hard work you guys put into these roms, so seriously to everyone congratulations on some amazing efforts.
I did want to address the reason topic titles such as the one I chose here crop up however. When I had a diamond before my HD2 there were just a few good roms to choose from and I soon settled down and chose one after trying them out. A few months back I started this same process with my HD2 but found every ROM I flashed to have a few bugs which annoyed me in day to day use, and I eventually went back to stock. Since then I havn't really tried again.
Today I have again been looking at perhaps flashing to a cooked ROM and in the beginning of these efforts I tried out the search term "best HD2 ROM". The threads that resulted were obviously very short and the authors told off for being lazy and discrediting the great works of all the chefs here. But the very good point is made that there are ALOT of ROM's for the HD2, and whilst it may only take 5 mnins to flash a ROM it takes hours, if not days, to find out if it suited to you. With the risk of losing personal info on each flash and having to reconfigure your apps each time this can be a very tedious process.
I'm basically wondering if there is any way to have a thread that can provide a way of rating the advantages and disadvantages of each ROM without having to wade through topics with hundreds of pages of mostly useless posts. It just so daunting with all these ROM's that many people may never even start.
I am just now thinking of flexing my (somewhat out of date) webmastering ability to create a "ROM Review" website - good idea?
What are people's thoughts?
p.s. This is probably also in the wrong section of the forum... just clicked "new topic" where I was browsing without thinking where it should go, please move if appropriate, thanks.
I completely agree with your idea to open this thread.
Finally we have someone who wants to put it to rights. Because every day we have new ROM or several ROM's, and every time flashing and soft re-installation takes a lot of time... and after all that you understand that "this ROM is not really what you wanted to be"...
Go on with your idea.. and I think - this section is the right place for your thread.
you got my vote
Good to see I'm not alone here, any feedback is much appriciated, even if its just a +1
Agreed, Sir.
This was taken from another thread about a similar question
"I also see no point to a list of pro's or cons of any particular ROM as most are built for the same thing, speed and stability. The only real differences you are going to see are what programs the person has loaded."
If this is indeed the case. then a list of the roms with the space taken up by the rom on the phone. the apps installed and how quick, stable each one would be must surely be a good idea?
I truly hope you can follow through with your idea.
I think there is no such thing as "the" best ROM.
Each user has different preferences, especially WinMo smartphones are
rarely one the same like another: Included software, tweaks, mods, themes, designs.
The possibilities are endless.
Also, an earlier thread here at the HD2 forum about speed (with benchmarks
as neutral as possible) ended up in unfriendly discussions (which is a mild
term to describe what happened).
An HD2 is so extremely fast that I seriously doubt that the "average" user
can tell a big difference between different ROMs. Sometimes, a buggy ROM
may be obviously slower, but in the average case, the difference will just
not really be felt, but only perceived, sometimes only imagined.
I think that it is part of this forum that there is no rating of the available
ROMs. If you watch the forum, you can easily find out which ROMs seem to
have more acceptance and therefore more fans - and if you check the ROM
description and screenshots of the chef, you can easily find out if the ROM
is something you might like.
Just to finish: How exactly does a ROM qualify as "the best"? Speed? Come
on... Software which comes with it? Come on, again...
Imho, it all ends up in optical mods and tweaks plus some extremely basic
software which is really a must for everybody. If you would ask me what
this could be, I cannot give you any name because WinMo and Manila are
on most ROMs anyway...
I couldn't agree more Mega. Very brave of you to start this thread ; )
I was a bit of a flashaholic with both my Elf and my Raphael, but I still haven't flashed anything to my Leo because it's so hard to figure out exactly what I'm going to get. Apart from the features of each ROM, it's hard to get an idea of the things that might be missing from each. Like, have the original bugs been fixed? Stuff like the audio booster turning off, AAC files being mis-sorted in the audio player, volume keys still active when the screen is off and incremental volume control or even the relative volume between headphones and phone speaker. I just can't be bothered to start flashing a million ROMs to find out. That's not laziness by the way, honest! I'm sure I'll get over it and start flashing soon ; )
tictac0566 said:
I think there is no such thing as "the" best ROM.
Each user has different preferences, especially WinMo smartphones are
rarely one the same like another: Included software, tweaks, mods, themes, designs.
The possibilities are endless.
Also, an earlier thread here at the HD2 forum about speed (with benchmarks
as neutral as possible) ended up in unfriendly discussions (which is a mild
term to describe what happened).
An HD2 is so extremely fast that I seriously doubt that the "average" user
can tell a big difference between different ROMs. Sometimes, a buggy ROM
may be obviously slower, but in the average case, the difference will just
not really be felt, but only perceived, sometimes only imagined.
I think that it is part of this forum that there is no rating of the available
ROMs. If you watch the forum, you can easily find out which ROMs seem to
have more acceptance and therefore more fans - and if you check the ROM
description and screenshots of the chef, you can easily find out if the ROM
is something you might like.
Just to finish: How exactly does a ROM qualify as "the best"? Speed? Come
on... Software which comes with it? Come on, again...
Imho, it all ends up in optical mods and tweaks plus some extremely basic
software which is really a must for everybody. If you would ask me what
this could be, I cannot give you any name because WinMo and Manila are
on most ROMs anyway...
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I agree, how would one rate the BEST? Well to be honest you cant really as each person has there own needs and wants in a rom. What might be an Ideal rom for me might not be the best rom for you. I could rate a rom at 10 and you might give it a 2, then it turns into a bashing session and that can not be allowed. The rating system has been brought up many times before and each time it comes to the same end. There will never be an accurate way to tell the best rom. I am not trying to be harsh here but threads like this are beating a dead horse.
After speaking with the OP I have decided to reopen this thread. On the condition that this is "NOT" a best rom thread. This thread will be to help those that are new to ROM flashing. I will be keeping an eye on this thread and if it turn into a Best rom or bashing thread I will reclose it for good. I understand that sense the release of the HD 2 that alot of people are new to WM and with the available options in the rom thread it can be confusing. I am also moving this thread to the General Section as it is not Rom development. To all the new guys welcome.
Just wanna say thanks to Zelendal, the topic title originally wasn't constructive.
As we all know from doing a little reading about the ROM's, each one can be individually suited to different people, it like argument about which is the best smart phone or computer platform. So the kind of discussionj I was trying to provoke was about the best way to help out newcomers decide which ROM would indeed be best suited to them.
As I posted before I have been pondering making a seperate website that would allow some organisation of peoples opinions on the ROM's and I am interested as to how much support there would be amongst the community, I am also interested as to how the Cook's themselves would see such an project, providing it was done right.
sike222 said:
This was taken from another thread about a similar question
"I also see no point to a list of pro's or cons of any particular ROM as most are built for the same thing, speed and stability. The only real differences you are going to see are what programs the person has loaded."
If this is indeed the case. then a list of the roms with the space taken up by the rom on the phone. the apps installed and how quick, stable each one would be must surely be a good idea?
I truly hope you can follow through with your idea.
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You quote me but you leave out an important part. The problem with making a list is that ROMs change. What might have been an issue in one build might be working just fine in the next. Keeping up with these changes and trying to keep on top of a list would be a nightmare. Also this mystical list you are looking for is usually on one of the first few post of every ROM thread. Most good cooks will list all these things that you are looking for. Only way to tell if a ROM will fit your needs is to try it. Every bodies idea of a good ROM is different. What one person might see as a con another sees as a pro. Personal opinion is a ***** and unfortunately everybody has a different one.
Good luck but I don't see a list being started or maintained for very long. Nor do I see this thread going anywhere productive.
Will Badger -
I don't think anyone is dis-agreeing that each ROM is suited individually to different people. Each cook makes his ROM how he wants it and if you share those wants with that cook you a likly to enjoy his ROM. That doesn't make it any easier to find what ROM is indeed suited to you, and as a newbe it can be extremely daunting, there are 30 odd cooks for the HD2, thats ALOT of time spent flashing and tring out ROM's.
Having said that I have been pointed towards
http://www.xdaroms.com/Default.aspx
Which is more or less everything I had in mind for a ROM information site, so its safe to say I wont be needing to build another. Iv'e been on this forum for a few months now and have not seen this site, somthing like this would need the direct support of Cooks asking people to visit in their ROM threads to submit reviews of their ROM.
Personally if that could happen I think it would be great and a fantastic resourse for newbes but I know there are alot of differing opinions on here, and perhaps its somthing the chefs would have second thoughts about.
Cool nice to know you found what you were looking for. I still find it easier to just read the actual thread for the info I'm looking for. Going over that page quickly I see no information stating whether the any of the HD2 ROMs are T-mobile compatible. You can flash a standard HD2 ROM onto the newer T-Mo HD2 since they use different processor.
i hadn't come across that site either, lol... but looking at this thread i think the guy's pretty keen to make the site useful. see here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=658641
there's also another thread in the ROM section that might be helpful... i'm sure jaimeeee would appreciate any input and help you wanna give
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=683743
Hi,
Thanks for the extra info, whilst the site I posted does seem to be more or less what I was thinking of doing myself it simply doesnt have the activity require to truely make it useful to anyone. It needs the support of the Forum, especially the Cooks if its going to succeed. I keep meaning to conatct the owner of th site to discuss how to push traffic onto the site but I got all caught up making a skin recently.
Hopefully we can make somthing of this!
Hi xda peoples
this is a very good way for those who install the rom to be able to install the best roms and save time.
All the experts here intorduce the best roms from introduced roms every week so newly arrived people can make use of them.
The introduced rom should be the best in every aspect :
* the best in cameras
* no bugs
* unlocked
* high speed
* high stability
this action is very useful so try to take part in it
thank you for your cooperation
Dude, are you on crack or just taking the piss?
Friend search before starting duplicate threads ok ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961412:
I just tried to help newcomers and friends do to save time.
You said something that I just had a question, but this week s update. You do not want to participate do not have to come get me wrong here
Pavriz WM said:
I just tried to help newcomers and friends do to save time.
You said something that I just had a question, but this week s update. You do not want to participate do not have to come get me wrong here
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There's already a thread on this... also, there is no best rom. It's personal preference.
And at this point, all the wp7 roms are pretty much the same... personally don't see the point in having as many as there is, but it's good that there's different cooks and hopefully there will be differences in the roms as they progress. But right now, all the roms have pretty much same tweaks and features... no real difference except maybe the lockscreen picture and a theme color.
hi all
I've been handed a Note1 to use temporarily (I'm normally a Winphone bloke), and TBH I'm not enthralled by my first Android experience, apart from the bigger range of apps (see my first post here whilst I still thought it was a Note3 :silly: )
I know the unit is old, but I'm already having issues with space (see thread above), the unit is sluggish, and seems loaded with Samsung and Google stuff... and I know it's not the latest Android at 4.1
I really don't want to spend hours trawling through forums and testing/flashing different what appear to be hundreds of different ROMS out there (which i have previously done with all my old Winphones), as this is only going to be mine for e few months, but I do want to know if there's a well proven, lightweight, good on battery ROM that does the basics really well. I want a nice simple clean interface, no crashing, and easy connection to my Exchange, Gmail and Hotmail accounts. I'd also prefer my SMS separated out from email, and if it's based on a much later version of Android then all the better.
There doesn't appear to be poll for which is best/lightest etc. like I used to see on my old XDA forums, so sorry if this is a common question.
If there's one or two stand out ROMs that are recommended I'll go off and research installing them myself :good:
thanks
Dom
Mod Edit
"Best" or "Recommend" ROM / Kernel threads are not allowed on XDA.
Please test these things for yourself. That is the only way you will get an unbiased opinion,
and then, you can decide for yourself if it meets YOUR needs.
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ronnie498
Forum Moderator
hi all
I've been handed a Note1 to use temporarily (I'm normally a Winphone bloke), and TBH I'm not enthralled by my first Android experience, apart from the bigger range of apps (see my first post here whilst I still thought it was a Note3 :silly: )
I know the unit is old, but I'm already having issues with space (see thread above), the unit is sluggish, and seems loaded with Samsung and Google stuff... and I know it's not the latest Android at 4.1
I really don't want to spend hours trawling through forums and testing/flashing different what appear to be hundreds of different ROMS out there (which i have previously done with all my old Winphones), as this is only going to be mine for e few months, but I do want to know if there's a well proven, lightweight, good on battery ROM that does the basics really well. I want a nice simple clean interface, no crashing, and easy connection to my Exchange, Gmail and Hotmail accounts. I'd also prefer my SMS separated out from email, and if it's based on a much later version of Android then all the better.
There doesn't appear to be poll for which is best/lightest etc. like I used to see on my old XDA forums, so sorry if this is a common question.
If there's one or two stand out ROMs that are recommended I'll go off and research installing them myself :good:
thanks
Dom
Mod Edit
"Best" or "Recommend" ROM / Kernel threads are not allowed on XDA.
Please test these things for yourself. That is the only way you will get an unbiased opinion,
and then, you can decide for yourself if it meets YOUR needs.
Thread Closed
ronnie498
Forum Moderator
There's so many different ROM's and Kernels and whatnot I'm lost.
I have an untouched 4.4.2 SM-N9005 and I want to get a Note 5 ROM or something new and flashy.
I want to keep the stylus functionality and a new camera would be neat too.
Could someone give me a quick rundown of what I need to do? (Root method? Bootloaders? Kernels? Which ROM? Patches? Xposed?)
Sorry, I'm so lost.
PS. I don't care about knox.
Would be better if you ask, if somebody can come to your place and flash your phone for you.
What you're asking for, is really the minimum basic knowledge you should have to flash your device.
And if you didn't get it from the numerous explanations and tutorials on the Web, will you get it now ?
I'm sure, someone will spoon feed you with the information, but will you then manage not to brick your device ?
You have some serious reading to do to catch up.
Good luck.
Actually as you can see I've been a member here for many many years and have rooted many phones and mod all kinds of electronics as well as many many other things.
It's not a matter of not knowing or bothering to do the research it's simply a matter of not having time at the moment. I have so many other things taking up my time I just thought someone could save me and anyone else who has been waiting for a good rom some time with a brief rundown on what they've found is best.
I'd love to try out all the different recoveries, roms, kernels et all but like I said, no time.
Android Development Darklord port .
Sorry no time for further .
Thank you that's the one I'd been watching but it's been on 2.1 for a fair while, perhaps with camera issues (op says so but people in the 1000+ page thread seem to say it's fixed? ) and every second post seems to mention some new fix or kernel required. Also I noticed there are some other note 5 ports now.