Hey guys, i have been owning this piece of great phone for almost two years. But it never gave me a big issue.
Nevertheless, few months back i flashed cm12 and it worked great too.. I had been using it gracefully till i decided to update to cm12.1. So i decided to update, but the update always crashed google play services. The update did not happen automatically so i had to flash the zip through custom recovery (already installed) by myself.
I could not come out of that so i went ahead and did a full wipe and flashed cm12.1 along with gapps. Since then when i am unplugged it goes only to about few minutes (on battery) and shuts down. So, i now decided that this piece of update is buggy and did a full wipe and reflashed the original cm12 zip and gapps which i had placed in the first place. But, to my horror even this time it could not go past the bootscreen even and turns itself off when its about to start up. (Battery is full charged, did an overnight charge as well).One very unusual thing i noticed that almost all the the time i try to power it on it showed me "optimising app X of Y" which is weird. This kinda happens only on first boot.
But if i keep my phone plugged in to ac charge then it works fine.. but only last night it hanged and turned off even on charge. So there i decided that the cm thing is not for me. So i followed this tutorial and flashed the stock 5.1.1 rom (did a full wipe, tried oem lock and re unlocked and proceeded too).
But, i find the same problem same issue!! When unplugged my device, it just turns off even on full battery charge.
Can someone explain me the technical parts of the issue and what has gone wrong and how it can be fixed?
Please, Thanks
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Last time i locked - unlocked bootloader and proceeded with a fresh factory image flash, the device turned off on boot even when plugged in to my mac and it's hot on the back side
Sounds to me like there''s something physically wrong with the phone, probably the battery. Time for a new one anyway. Lithium batteries degrade with use. After ~500 charge cycles it'll have lost upwards of 20% of its original capacity and might show other signs of wearing out like inconsistent voltages. After 2 years of use, you'll be well beyond 500 cycles. A new battery off eBay is pretty cheap, and some sellers include the needed tools.Go to ifixit.com for a tear-down guide. A hair drier can help soften up the adhesive. The fact that it turned off despite being plugged in to your computer also points to the battery being toast - the USB amperage from a computer is less than the typical wall charger.
If it's not the battery giving you woes, I don't know what it could be.
And FYI, the whole "optimizing app" thing is the OS rebuilding the cache. When you flash your GAPPs package or a zipped Titanium backup it has to build the cache for the new apps. Same as when you do the "wipe Dalvik and cache" part of standard flashing procedure to avoid conflicts. In order for apps to load quickly, Android stores a lot of the necessary data in cache, so when you clear it or have new apps, it has to rebuild the cache. On Lollipop this takes a loooooooong time because of the way ART works.
Planterz said:
The fact that it turned off despite being plugged in to your computer also points to the battery being toast - the USB amperage from a computer is less than the typical wall charger.
If it's not the battery giving you woes, I don't know what it could be.
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How can i be completely sure that it's the battery which needs to be replaced? The battery shows charge. When i plug in and boot up it shows enough battery power left.
Currently, without external power it does not go past the google screen on boot. When i plug in power while device is off, the battery meter shows just a little depletion from full charge. When turned on, battery level is 82 %
After all , all this hardware mess up can be the consequence of a bad cm flash ?
the whole "optimizing app" thing is the OS rebuilding the cache.
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I know this. Earlier it was happening on each boot. Now it seemed to be stopped.
By any chance did you have your phone charging while flashing and booting up your ROM?
ChainFires Son said:
By any chance did you have your phone charging while flashing and booting up your ROM?
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May be? But not the the first time
Nezam said:
Hey guys, i have been owning this piece of great phone for almost two years. But it never gave me a big issue.
Nevertheless, few months back i flashed cm12 and it worked great too.. I had been using it gracefully till i decided to update to cm12.1. So i decided to update, but the update always crashed google play services. The update did not happen automatically so i had to flash the zip through custom recovery (already installed) by myself.
I could not come out of that so i went ahead and did a full wipe and flashed cm12.1 along with gapps. Since then when i am unplugged it goes only to about few minutes (on battery) and shuts down. So, i now decided that this piece of update is buggy and did a full wipe and reflashed the original cm12 zip and gapps which i had placed in the first place. But, to my horror even this time it could not go past the bootscreen even and turns itself off when its about to start up. (Battery is full charged, did an overnight charge as well).One very unusual thing i noticed that almost all the the time i try to power it on it showed me "optimising app X of Y" which is weird. This kinda happens only on first boot.
But if i keep my phone plugged in to ac charge then it works fine.. but only last night it hanged and turned off even on charge. So there i decided that the cm thing is not for me. So i followed this tutorial and flashed the stock 5.1.1 rom (did a full wipe, tried oem lock and re unlocked and proceeded too).
But, i find the same problem same issue!! When unplugged my device, it just turns off even on full battery charge.
Can someone explain me the technical parts of the issue and what has gone wrong and how it can be fixed?
Please, Thanks
EDIT
Last time i locked - unlocked bootloader and proceeded with a fresh factory image flash, the device turned off on boot even when plugged in to my mac and it's hot on the back side
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Exactly same problem is started with my Nexus 4 ... I really wonder, what is causing this. Meanwhile, have it sorted for you ? is that hardware (Battery) issue?
Nezam said:
Hey guys, i have been owning this piece of great phone for almost two years. But it never gave me a big issue.
Nevertheless, few months back i flashed cm12 and it worked great too.. I had been using it gracefully till i decided to update to cm12.1. So i decided to update, but the update always crashed google play services. The update did not happen automatically so i had to flash the zip through custom recovery (already installed) by myself...
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I too am facing kinda similar problem.
It first started on my stock Lollipop 5.1.1. I had kept it on charge and when I removed it, it got switched off. Thinking that it might be just another of the multitude of bugs in Lollipop, since I already had lots of problems with it, I decided to flash CM 12.1 Stable on it.
Unlocked bootloader, flashed TWRP recovery, created a backup (using TWRP), wiped data, cache, dalvik and started installing CM 12.1. Now comes the problem, I selected 'restart system' and it did restart and CyanogenMod logo was displayed for few minutes before the phone crashed. I switched it on again normally and the Google logo got displayed, and then again phone got off just after the Google logo. I tried flashing again by same procedure, but this time not even the Cyanogen logo was displayed. The Google logo got displayed and the went off.
Then I decided to restore the backup. Restored it but it still had the same problem at the startup Google logo.
Now I have managed to install CM 12.1, which works fine unless I don't open certain apps. When I open certain apps like Phone or Clock (those are some I have tried yet), it crashes the system.
This maybe a hardware or software problem, but pretty sure it isn't battery problem, coz it retains good charge when I switch it back on after crash.
shazR00t said:
I too am facing kinda similar problem.
It first started on my stock Lollipop 5.1.1. I had kept it on charge and when I removed it, it got switched off. Thinking that it might be just another of the multitude of bugs in Lollipop, since I already had lots of problems with it, I decided to flash CM 12.1 Stable on it.
Unlocked bootloader, flashed TWRP recovery, created a backup (using TWRP), wiped data, cache, dalvik and started installing CM 12.1. Now comes the problem, I selected 'restart system' and it did restart and CyanogenMod logo was displayed for few minutes before the phone crashed. I switched it on again normally and the Google logo got displayed, and then again phone got off just after the Google logo. I tried flashing again by same procedure, but this time not even the Cyanogen logo was displayed. The Google logo got displayed and the went off.
Then I decided to restore the backup. Restored it but it still had the same problem at the startup Google logo.
Now I have managed to install CM 12.1, which works fine unless I don't open certain apps. When I open certain apps like Phone or Clock (those are some I have tried yet), it crashes the system.
This maybe a hardware or software problem, but pretty sure it isn't battery problem, coz it retains good charge when I switch it back on after crash.
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Since you already unlocked the bootloader, and therefore already wiped everything, you could try flashing a factory image.
I also got the same problem. I thought this is battery problem, so I replaced the battery but problem still there. I thought this is problem of lollipop, never installed CM or anything. It is always running stock android. After that I even downgrade to Kitkat stock version still it is not working. One more thing I noticed is If I don't unlock the device than it will be powered on, but as soon as I unlock it and if it is not plugged in to charger it will be switched off. Any suggestion what should I do?
I have the same thing for several month now.
Always thought it is the dying battery.
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Since you already unlocked the bootloader, and therefore already wiped everything, you could try flashing a factory image.
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Just tried flashing Lollipop 5.1.1 (LMY48I) factory image. The same problem still exists. Faced few weird problems on running the first time. Following scenarios explains it exactly...
Not On Charge: Crashes after startup Google logo
Connected to Laptop (USB Charge): Crashes a few minutess after entering "Optimizing apps" screen
On Charger (AC): Completed the install (optimizing apps and setup) without problems
Now I can access the home screen and menu without problems. But when I start any app, phone will go off. Not just apps, at times even when the recent apps menu is opened.
shazR00t said:
Just tried flashing Lollipop 5.1.1 (LMY48I) factory image. The same problem still exists. Faced few weird problems on running the first time. Following scenarios explains it exactly...
Not On Charge: Crashes after startup Google logo
Connected to Laptop (USB Charge): Crashes a few minutess after entering "Optimizing apps" screen
On Charger (AC): Completed the install (optimizing apps and setup) without problems
Now I can access the home screen and menu without problems. But when I start any app, phone will go off. Not just apps, at times even when the recent apps menu is opened.
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When you flashed the factory image did you do it via fastboot or by flashing a zip file. If you used the zip file I would suggest you do it with fastboot.
theminikiller said:
When you flashed the factory image did you do it via fastboot or by flashing a zip file. If you used the zip file I would suggest you do it with fastboot.
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By "flashing zip" you mean using "fastboot update" command? ...If so, nope I didnt. I extracted all compressed files and then flashed each of the img's using fastboot. Flashed a total of 6 img files.
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By "flashing zip" you mean using "fastboot update" command? ...If so, nope I didnt. I extracted all compressed files and then flashed each of the img's using fastboot. Flashed a total of 6 img files.
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Yeah, I meant flashing each of the image files. If you did that then u don't have any other suggestions.
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shazR00t said:
By "flashing zip" you mean using "fastboot update" command? ...If so, nope I didnt. I extracted all compressed files and then flashed each of the img's using fastboot. Flashed a total of 6 img files.
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Yeah, I meant flashing each of the images. If you did that then I don't have any other suggestions.
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I m too facing the similar issues. Phone is getting turned off suddenly when not charging, on charging it is working fine. i have done factory reset and also done factory image reset to 5.1.0. i m still facing the same issues. I don't think so it is related to battery. if anyone have the solution then please let me know.
shazR00t said:
By "flashing zip" you mean using "fastboot update" command? ...If so, nope I didnt. I extracted all compressed files and then flashed each of the img's using fastboot. Flashed a total of 6 img files.
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Try the very basic flash technique by double clicking the flash-all.bat. It's not the same as flashing the imgs one by one.
Battery is the issue. Get it changed. I also faced same problem, and visited LG service center and they changed the battery. Phone working fine now.
gautam.is.sharma said:
Battery is the issue. Get it changed. I also faced same problem, and visited LG service center and they changed the battery. Phone working fine now.
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Ok so Battery was the problem!! Got it changed, phone working fine now. Thanx all!
Ok guys i confirm that this is a battery issue. I took it to the service center and the guy temporarily replaced battery to show me issue solved... But... there i saw another issue due to which i did not buy the battery. I saw half the touchscreen not working (including the navigation buttons ). The guy at the center told its a h/w issue and i would have to spend 7K on it so i left my phone dead for now. The Question is ... can this be a s/w issue.. or result of bad flash which can solve on reflashing ??
same problem with my nexus ,but one thing i noticed that the phone does not power off while in recovery...Any idea??
Hey everyone,
I have been looking around online for several days now, but haven't been able to find a description of the problem I have with my n910f nor a solution.
When I got the phone it was stuck in bootloops and so I though it was soft bricked.
After I installed the custom rom and the latest version of TWRP via Odin, I thought that the problem was fixed, because the phone booted and I was able to start the configuration of Android (where it asks you for language, time zone etc.)
However, the phone turned itself off during this process. So I wiped everything and tried again, the same thing happened.
I then flashed it with Lineage, but it would turn itself off even before the logo appeared.
Then I flashed it with Ressurrection ROM, but again, the phone turns itself off during booting.
I can access download and recovery mode without any problems, I can flash roms and Odin works like a charm. I also used 2 different batteries.
Does anyone has an idea what I could try? Could it be the version of TWRP I am using (3.0.2.0)? Or is it a hardware issue?
Thank you!!
Hi, I have this exact same issue with my N910T and so far haven't found a solution to this. I really love my Note 4 so I'd like to know if this issue can be solved or not. I event went to a supposed repair shop and they couldn't figure out the problem, guess they weren't that good.
Sorry to hear this.
I have found issues that seemed similar, but not quite the same, and people hinted that it could be a worn out motherboard that is causing this top happen. But before I open up the phone (at the potential risk of breaking at least the screen) I would try everything else.
Or is there a way to test whether the motherboard is defective?
Its the plague of overheated, worn out emmc memories, sadly. Once it happen,the only way is a new/used motherboard,prefferably C model.
eMMC failure, snapdragon models are susceptible to this.
Tüddels said:
Hey everyone,
I have been looking around online for several days now, but haven't been able to find a description of the problem I have with my n910f nor a solution.
When I got the phone it was stuck in bootloops and so I though it was soft bricked.
After I installed the custom rom and the latest version of TWRP via Odin, I thought that the problem was fixed, because the phone booted and I was able to start the configuration of Android (where it asks you for language, time zone etc.)
However, the phone turned itself off during this process. So I wiped everything and tried again, the same thing happened.
I then flashed it with Lineage, but it would turn itself off even before the logo appeared.
Then I flashed it with Ressurrection ROM, but again, the phone turns itself off during booting.
I can access download and recovery mode without any problems, I can flash roms and Odin works like a charm. I also used 2 different batteries.
Does anyone has an idea what I could try? Could it be the version of TWRP I am using (3.0.2.0)? Or is it a hardware issue?
Thank you!!
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I suggest flashing stock rom with Odin after wiping your whole device in TWRP. I've had the same thing about 2 months ago.
Hey,
thank you for your responses. Yes, I read a lot about it being a motherboard problem.
I got it to work now thanks to this post: https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/downgrade-official-mm-to-kitkat-t3383885
First nothing happened, but after I flashed Modem and the original Bootloader again (after installing the rom) the phone turned on and I was able to use it for a while (20mins maybe). Then suddenly it turned itself off and stayed on the "Samsung Galaxy" screen for a long time.
Apparently a lot of people are using Wakelock and it seems to be working for some of them, but that seems to defy the point somehow.
KirbyFan64 said:
I suggest flashing stock rom with Odin after wiping your whole device in TWRP. I've had the same thing about 2 months ago.
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Which Stock Rom did you use exactly? Is your phone working fine?
Can anyone tell me if the tablet's battery might be responsible for it restarting itself? For example I was using it with a custom rom, and until the moment everything was working normal, and suddenly it started to restart, just by opening an application it crashes and reboots, I already tried to install the stock rom and it got worse, I could not even leave the samsung logo. I was able to install TWRP, but every time I try to reinstall the stock rom before it even starts it hangs and restarts, it has reached a point that it hangs and shuts itself. (Backup from twrp).
My tablet is the model SM -T560, I was using LineageSo 14.1 from T561. If anyone knows anything I appreciate it. The reason for the doubt is because I already took another tablet to repair and according to the technician, that could be the reason, the system was crashing, but from what I researched it was a chronic defect so I did not perform the battery replacement. Now i don't have any money to bay a new battery, and the device became an expensive paperweight.
Help please.
Hello everyone, for those who are in a similar situation, in which the tablet can not open an application without it restarting, reinstalling the stock rom and it keeps crashing and restarting, tried everything via software and did nothing for nothing. The battery arrived today and I'm testing to see if the problem solved and so far everything seems okay, I hope I can help with something.
marcelo010 said:
Hello everyone, for those who are in a similar situation, in which the tablet can not open an application without it restarting, reinstalling the stock rom and it keeps crashing and restarting, tried everything via software and did nothing for nothing. The battery arrived today and I'm testing to see if the problem solved and so far everything seems okay, I hope I can help with something.
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Uhm Yeah you can help with something, Sorry I wasn't a member when this was posted. Do you by any chance have the CM12.1 Custom ROM for the SM-T561? it's okay If you only have one for the SM-T560
So.. 2 weeks ago. I locked my bootloader with stock rom. Miui 11.0.9.0 Android 9 Indian version. Everything went well. Miui 11.0.1.0 update was not showing in updater so I manually updated from updater. Everything went well again. I played pubg and used normally. 3 days later. I put my mom's oppo Neo 7 sd card in my lavendar. I tried copying files from internal storage to sd card but it showed some kind of error. I erased memory card from storage. But it won't get erased. Tried formatting from pc. It said couldn't format.
I removed the sd card becouse i thought there's virus in it.
Then my lavendar started rebooting when I open any app or get a call. I performed factory reset. Still the same problem. I wiped data from mi recovery. Still same. It rebooted when I open an app. I unlocked bootloader and flashed superior os. Still same problem. I locked the bootloader again. Still same...
Finally I took it to authorised service center. They checked and flashed stock rom via mi flash tool becouse why not‽ Still the problem persists. Today a guy from telegram group told me to check opening the app while phone is charging. I tried and it didn't reboot. He said the battery is damaged. I called service center technican and told him the scenario but he said the battery is totally fine. You have to replace the motherboard.
Can anyone help me fix this problem please. Thank you and sorry for so long explanation but it was necessary.
PS: I used to flash a different rom every 4-5 days. Once I flashed 3 different roms within an hour.
Video for reference
https://t.me/AEXUNOFICIALlavender/22152
https://t.me/AEXUNOFICIALlavender/22153
Rifaldi34 said:
Yeah its 100 percent the battery, the battery got broken and cant provide power to the phone while opening some heavy apps, thus the phone reboots
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Amulya sir and Martin sir suspected that emmc was broken so I was worried. But changed battery and issue's gone now.
Also the reason for my battery getting damaged so early is QC 3.0 charger. I would suggest using it only when you're in a hurry.
Update: Replaced battery from local mobile repairing shop. Tested a full day. No reboots. Seems it was the battery after all.
Andrio said:
Update: Replaced battery from local mobile repairing shop. Tested a full day. No reboots. Seems it was the battery after all.
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Yeah its 100 percent the battery, the battery got broken and cant provide power to the phone while opening some heavy apps, thus the phone reboots