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Annoying background apps

guys i need a trick for stop app that start without permission in background, and close app that i use when i press the home or the back key
please there is a way?

search for task killer.

i don't think that solve the problem

djsolidsnake86 said:
i don't think that solve the problem
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Its the closest thing he has to solving his "problem" or what he would easily be able to use.

taskiller or something else dont kills services and selfstarting background apps, you can try with startup auditor which has an option to prevent apps to start again but i want an app which can really disable this ****, hope somone knows a better solution

suicide monkey said:
taskiller or something else dont kills services and selfstarting background apps, you can try with startup auditor which has an option to prevent apps to start again but i want an app which can really disable this ****, hope somone knows a better solution
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Well you can simply uninstall the app/system app then.
If its a system app you want removing use "SystemApp Remover".

I don't see what's the big deal ! this is not something new, it doesn't kill your battery any faster if you kill them, use advanced task killer, set auto kill level to safe, set auto kill frequency to When screen off, only leave important apps on the ap list unchecked, add the auto kill widget to your homescreen, and every time you want just hit that widget killing all apps and go on with your day!!

Try Autostarts: http://www.androidpit.de/de/android/market/apps/app/com.elsdoerfer.android.autostarts/Autostarts
With this app you have not only control of the startup programms, you also can disable apps, that would starts if different events happens. gl

TheATHEiST said:
Well you can simply uninstall the app/system app then.
If its a system app you want removing use "SystemApp Remover".
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its not about unistalling i just want to disable the services of apps i use, eg news room has an service to refresh the rss feeds, but i have set it to refresh manual so it doesn't need a refresh service...

j4n87 said:
Try Autostarts: http://www.androidpit.de/de/android/market/apps/app/com.elsdoerfer.android.autostarts/Autostarts
With this app you have not only control of the startup programms, you also can disable apps, that would starts if different events happens. gl
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thx seems to be a nice app but not that easy u have to know what u change
i have to try

roloracer said:
I don't see what's the big deal ! this is not something new, it doesn't kill your battery any faster if you kill them, use advanced task killer, set auto kill level to safe, set auto kill frequency to When screen off, only leave important apps on the ap list unchecked, add the auto kill widget to your homescreen, and every time you want just hit that widget killing all apps and go on with your day!!
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of course it can kill your battery faster,like an update service witch activates your data, a music player which is watching if ur headset is plugged or things like that and its not enough to kill them with taskiller cause they can restart from them selve!
try multitasking from royerd, its a taskmanger which start when u press homebutton twice,there u can kill apps and u have a tab where u can see active services and kill them trough a shortcut

djsolidsnake86 said:
guys i need a trick for stop app that start without permission in background, and close app that i use when i press the home or the back key
please there is a way?
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1. The ones running in the background are normally services or any apps which are not closed.
2. You can see service/apps run status using any task manager tool from market.
3. The services are installed as part of the app installed on your machine.
4. They are more often than not harmless as far as battery is concerned but can
be problematic if you have limited RAM on your phone
5. The best bet is to un-install the apps themselves, if you want to get rid of the services.
6. The normal task managers don't kill services running in background as that is what they are meant to do,otherwise the apps they are linking will not work properly.
7. Some apps on market claim to kill services/apps automatically as and when they are started by system, but this counterproductive as a service once installed will always attempt to start at frequent intervals and then the task manager killing them resulting in higher battery drain anyway.
Also, this means the task manager will always be running in the background.
So in short, the best bet for now is to un-install the apps which have background services running if you dont use them much.
Hope this helps.

App scaling: system apps

Since I have activated immersive mode (nav bar hides itself automatically) some of the apps just don't fill up the screen. I've tried to scale them with the built-in app scaling feature but some of the system apps (PlayStore, Chrome etc.) aren't shown in the list. Do you guys know a way to scale these apps? Thanks.

You can do this in the service menu, ie set so all apps are 18:9.
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BTW, do you get severe battery drain when you activate immersive mode?
I get about 10% per hour of drain

_jonte said:
You can do this in the service menu, ie set so all apps are 18:9.
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BTW, do you get severe battery drain when you activate immersive mode?
I get about 10% per hour of drain
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Can you please explain a bit more? Where do I find the service menu and what exactly do I have to do?
And I haven't noticed any severe battery drain. I use the app all "all in one gestures" to activate immersive mode. I know some people use another method to activate it and they're having battery issue but I'm not. This app is really stable and it doesn't even need root to do all the tricks.

browy said:
Can you please explain a bit more? Where do I find the service menu and what exactly do I have to do?
And I haven't noticed any severe battery drain. I use the app all "all in one gestures" to activate immersive mode. I know some people use another method to activate it and they're having battery issue but I'm not. This app is really stable and it doesn't even need root to do all the tricks.
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For H870 enter the code *#546368#*870# in the dialer to get to service menu, then SVC menu / Force long display mode, and enable it.
I'll try that app instead, thanks.
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Hmm, keyboard doesn't work in immersive mode when activated by All in one gestures.
How did you solve that?

_jonte said:
For H870 enter the code *#546368#*870# in the dialer to get to service menu, then SVC menu / Force long display mode, and enable it.
I'll try that app instead, thanks.
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Hmm, keyboard doesn't work in immersive mode when activated by All in one gestures.
How did you solve that?
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I've never used the built-in keyboard so I didn't know about that. I've always used Gboard and it works for me just fine. It's really weird that you're having an issue with the keyboard since even the developer had state that it shouldn't be any issue

I gave some more permissions in ADB for it to work.

So after giving the app extra permissions to enable keyboard I get battery drain again.
Using Gboard as well.
How did you get the keyboard working without having setting permissions via ADB? @browy

_jonte said:
So after giving the app extra permissions to enable keyboard I get battery drain again.
Using Gboard as well.
How did you get the keyboard working without having setting permissions via ADB? @browy
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I only go to the Settings apps, then Accessibility, under Services I just have to switch All in one Gestures to on.
But everything doesn't matter now. I dropped my phone today and it's now heavily damaged . Aluminium frame is bent, screen is shattered, part of the doesn't display properly. Maybe I'll switch to the Honor 9. Man, this phone is only 3 weeks old.

How to keep app run in background and prevent it from being 'killed' by "Close All"

How to keep app run in background and prevent it from being 'killed' by "Close All"
Hello, just got my S8+, very new with android..
may I know is there any way to prevent 1 particular running app from being close when I tap the "Close All" button at the app switcher? I'm using the stock Touchwiz.. And i wish to keep that app run at all time in the background..
TQVM..

emfung said:
Hello, just got my S8+, very new with android..
may I know is there any way to prevent 1 particular running app from being close when I tap the "Close All" button at the app switcher? I'm using the stock Touchwiz.. And i wish to keep that app run at all time in the background..
TQVM..
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Just swipe away the apps you want to close manually and leave the desired one there, close all will close all, there's no way to change that.

emfung said:
Hello, just got my S8+, very new with android..
may I know is there any way to prevent 1 particular running app from being close when I tap the "Close All" button at the app switcher? I'm using the stock Touchwiz.. And i wish to keep that app run at all time in the background..
TQVM..
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You can lock the apps and prevent them from closing. In the recent apps, there is a 3 dot menu in the top right corner. Tap it and you will see the option for locking apps.

Charkatak said:
You can lock the apps and prevent them from closing. In the recent apps, there is a 3 dot menu in the top right corner. Tap it and you will see the option for locking apps.
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Ha what do you know, didn't know it had that feature, nice one!

I have this same problem. Trying to find a way to lock my Tile App. Turned off my battery saver so system wont close open apps. Tried everything i could think of and that is suggested
on line. Nothing works. Tile cant even help.
How do I do what you suggest?
How do I access the recent apps? Is it through the 3 line button at bottom of sceen where it shows small pages of everything open or somewhere else?
When I look there....the individual pages don't show the 3 dots.
Thank you for any help you can offer!

Cate11 said:
I have this same problem. Trying to find a way to lock my Tile App. Turned off my battery saver so system wont close open apps. Tried everything i could think of and that is suggested
on line. Nothing works. Tile cant even help.
How do I do what you suggest?
How do I access the recent apps? Is it through the 3 line button at bottom of sceen where it shows small pages of everything open or somewhere else?
When I look there....the individual pages don't show the 3 dots.
Thank you for any help you can offer!
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if youre in android 9.0 do the following
settings->apps->tap on tile app->battery->allow background activity

youdoofus said:
if youre in android 9.0 do the following
settings->apps->tap on tile app->battery->allow background activity
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Hi,
What you mean "tap on tile app"? I can not find "allow background activity". Phone is galaxy s8, android pie.
Few days back a call recorder apk sent me there and I realize this option is not deleted from android. It just hidden, like stop FB updates.

kingarthas said:
Hi,
What you mean "tap on tile app"? I can not find "allow background activity". Phone is galaxy s8, android pie.
Few days back a call recorder apk sent me there and I realize this option is not deleted from android. It just hidden, like stop FB updates.
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See the gif I attached

Ok problem resolved.
There is three options to be set:
1) "Sleeping aps" - go to Settings and type in search bar on top "Sleeping aps"
I Add all apk except: AutoBlutooth, Button mapper, Call recorder, Weather widget, Email and messaging apk
2) "Optimize battery usage" - go to Settings and type in search bar on top "Optimize battery usage" Click again on top row "Optimize battery usage", Click on "App not optimized" and change to "All", find apk that make problem by sleeping.
I Disable :AutoBlutooth, Button mapper, Call recorder, ect. I do not add here email and messaging apk, as they never have sleeping issues. Maybe because not have 3day(default sleep setting) not using them in a row.
3) "Allow background activity" - go to Settings==>>Apps==>>Select application you want not to sleep==>>Battery==>>Allow background activity
It will be set to Enable to all apk, that are not added to "Sleeping aps"
Additional step:
"Device admin apps" - If Application is already here, can give Admin status. It will prevent accidental change of "Optimize battery usage" and "Allow background activity"
p.s
This why my messaging apps have Enabled Allow background activity and Optimise battery usage.
Button mapper, Call recorder ect have Enabled Allow background activity and Disabled Optimise battery usage

"OK Google" from locked phone no longer working

This seems to have started up recently when the screen is off and I can't quite figure out if its tied to the Google Play Services version or not. I'm on the latest beta of Google / GPS and it doesn't seem to be working on Oreo.
Curious if this has happened to anyone else?
I'm on GPS 11.9.73 and I think it ties more into that

Doesn't work here & seems to have been removed from settings
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Google Assistant settings are accessed from the Google Assistant app. And, even though it's set to unlock the phone on hearinh "OK Google, it doesn't. Just brings up the unlock keypad

My settings still does say screen off as well.

roebling said:
Doesn't work here & seems to have been removed from settings
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Google Assistant settings are accessed from the Google Assistant app. And, even though it's set to unlock the phone on hearinh "OK Google, it doesn't. Just brings up the unlock keypad
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Go to security/smart lock and see if trusted voice is in the menu. There may be an app not playing nice with smart lock. If greenify isn't set up right it can cause this issue.

It is in the menu and brings me to my screenshot from above. No Greenify or any doze/power saving changes
Edit - annnnd out of nowhere it starts working again 3 hours later

wolfu11 said:
Go to security/smart lock and see if trusted voice is in the menu. There may be an app not playing nice with smart lock. If greenify isn't set up right it can cause this issue.
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'Smart lock' settings are blank

roebling said:
'Smart lock' settings are blank
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It should look like this: see attached. Not sure what's causing it but that's possible your issue.

ming3r said:
It is in the menu and brings me to my screenshot from above. No Greenify or any doze/power saving changes
Edit - annnnd out of nowhere it starts working again 3 hours later
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Annnnd, also out of nowhere, it's working here, too.
Interesting, too, it that the "Settings">"Smart Lock" page is no longer blank:

A lot of the setting don't seem to work for whatever reason. Like limiting background processes just..doesn't.

The only fix there is for this is to turn off smartlock by going to setting, security, and trust agents then turn it off and restart the phone then re enable the smart Lock

Titanium Backup schedules not executed

Is anyone else having the issue of TB schedules not being executed when the phone is sleeping? I have set all the Battery Optimizations set to manual for both TB and the TB root key app. Sometimes the scheduled task is started when I wake up the phone and sometimes (at night) it's being ignored entirely. I am on rooted Oreo stock but I saw the same on Nougat.

Fixed
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Is anyone else having the issue of TB schedules not being executed when the phone is sleeping? I have set all the Battery Optimizations set to manual for both TB and the TB root key app. Sometimes the scheduled task is started when I wake up the phone and sometimes (at night) it's being ignored entirely. I am on rooted Oreo stock but I saw the same on Nougat.
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OK, fixed it - I had to activate it under Ignore Battery Optimizations

khaberz said:
OK, fixed it - I had to activate it under Ignore Battery Optimizations
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Having the same problem. Where is the option for "Ignore Battery Optimizations", is it a Titanium option or a system option? Thanks

palosanto0 said:
Having the same problem. Where is the option for "Ignore Battery Optimizations", is it a Titanium option or a system option? Thanks
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It's a system setting, somewhere under the Battery settings. I am not on EMUI anymore, so I can't tell you exactly. However, it didn't fix my problem permanently. I have moved on to LineageOS meanwhile, where these problems don't exist anymore.

khaberz said:
It's a system setting, somewhere under the Battery settings. I am not on EMUI anymore, so I can't tell you exactly. However, it didn't fix my problem permanently. I have moved on to LineageOS meanwhile, where these problems don't exist anymore.
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Unfortunately it does not work in my Xiaomi redmi Note 4X.
I found the option to activate "Ignore Battery Optimizations", however if I don't leave the Titanium backup PRO running, the scheduled backups are not performed.
Last week I have been searching internet for a solution, however still I have not found a satisfactory one.
Kind regards and thanks for your advice,
Javi

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Titanium Backup schedules not executed (or interrupted after being started) and/or its related notifications not being shown appears to be an issue that is caused by crazy additional 'features' as implemented at some devices to improve battery life. This especially happens at OnePlus devices running Oreo (Android 8), but may possibly also appear at devices of other brands (Xiaomi?). Therefore it actually isn't a shortcoming of Titanium Backup itself, but the result of some stupid app handling and killing behaviors that may be active at your device.
Also other apps that should permanently be kept running in background may be impacted by this behavior (being killed for the same reason) like Tasker, Sync-to-cloud apps, etc.
Especially at OnePlus devices running Oreo, following implemented crazy 'optimization' behaviors are playing a role here:
After a user has set Battery optimisation OFF for a specific app, it may automatically be set ON again after a reboot or after the app was updated
Background services may be killed EVEN when for the related app the Battery optimisation was set OFF
The 'Autostart' attribute may be ignored, so apps may be NOT automatically started in background after rebooting your device
SOLUTION
1. Make sure the 'Advanced optimisation' options are disabled
Go to Settings > Battery > Battery optimisation
Click the 3 dots in the upper-right corner and select 'Advanced optimisation'
Verify that the options 'Advanced optimisation' and 'Sleep standby optimisation' are both disabled
2. Set Battery optimisation OFF for any app that should continue to run in background
Go to Settings > Battery > Battery optimisation
Select the app that should never be killed, so in this example: 'Titanium Backup'
Select 'Don't optimize' and click DONE
Nb.
Above is not needed for the 2nd entry 'Titanium Backup PRO', which is just related to your PRO key payment and not the running Titanium Backup process itself.​
However, disabling Battery optimization for an app is NOT enough for preventing that it could be killed when running in background at OnePlus devices!
This not only because the 'Don't optimize' setting may automatically be reverted to 'Optimize' after a reboot or after an update of the app, but EVEN when Battery optimisation is actually disabled it's nevertheless still candidate for being killed at OnePlus devices running Oreo! Therefore also next action is required in addition.
3. Lock the app in your 'Recent Apps' list
Open and then close Titanium Backup (or just touch the Home button at your device after opening the app)
Touch the 'Recent Apps' button at your device
This shows your recent apps, where Titanium Backup will now be included (as last / most recent entry)
Toggle the 'Lock' icon in the upper right corner of that Titanium Backup entry, to switch it to a closed lock icon symbol
(see attached screenshot)
This last action not only just prevents that the app could be removed from your 'Recent Apps' list, but it ALSO prevents the issues as described above, so:
The app will not be killed anymore when running in background
The 'Battery optimisation' setting for that app will not be reverted anymore to 'Optimize' after a reboot or after an update of the app
When done, Titanium Backup schedules should now run as defined. Also, its completion messages shouldn't disappear from your notification entries anymore, but kept until you remove them.
OTHER APPS
Because it's not just a specific Titanium Backup issue but the result of the stupid behavior as implemented at OnePlus devices running Oreo, it's highly recommended to repeat the steps above for any app that should never be killed when running in background (eg. Tasker, Sync-to-cloud apps, Alarm/Alert apps, etc.). Also apps that are making use of scheduled actions, or should awake at incoming messages, chats, mails, alarms, or Security/Anti-virus apps etc. could be candidate of not being able to react properly because they were killed when running in background and/or not started at boot. When such apps doesn't always correctly react/awake at your device, just perform same actions as described above to prevent them to be killed. When an app still doesn't work because it wasn't auto-started at boot, you could use Tasker to create a Tasker-profile that executes a Tasker-task to launch such apps at boot. Start-at-boot via Tasker appears to be not required for Titanium Backup, but for some other apps this was my only option to ensure that they were auto-started after a reboot of my device.
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Some apps have options included in their internal settings like 'Keep active in background', 'Run in Foreground' or 'Turn off battery optimisation'. Even when these types of internal app settings are selected, they could still be killed at some device brands (eg. OnePlus) when the actions as described above aren't implemented in addition for such apps.
OnePlus: Never settle, but also never be so stubborn...

Thanks
Much appreciated for the fix.
Never thought about locking the app, great idea ?

Just stumbled over this post through a link. Many thanks for the info; in my case it's not only TB that's effected but also several other apps like OruxMaps and Automagic.
For completeness I post some screenshots from OnePlus 6 / OOS 9.0.4 (Pie) showing the changed recent apps screens and dialogs (in German, but I guess you'll get the picture)

paarnoutse said:
Titanium Backup schedules not executed....
OnePlus: Never settle, but also never be so stubborn...
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i was wondering why titanium is not executed in months.. and killed shortly even when i run it manually.
settings were great:
- no battery optimization
- no data optimization
- tons of free memory on RAM boasting 1+ (funny isn't it)
- recent app management=normal clear
- standby check=exempted
- keep activities
- deep optimization turned off
- sleep standby optimization turned off
and still it didn't help until i LOCKed the app. this is why 1+ and xiaomis achieve better battery scores than samsung

doggydog2 said:
...this is why 1+ and xiaomis achieve better battery scores than samsung
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...which is what I really love about my 1+: 3 - 4 days between charging aren't rare here.
For the very few apps that are having probs (like track recording) with heavy battery optimization I wrote myself a script (am using automagic, but this should be also possible with Tasker etc) to disable deep opt. then start my critical app. Works great for me, but as always: ymmv

I can't find the setting to lock an app in the recent list in Android 10. Anyone know how to do it?

James_Oakley said:
I can't find the setting to lock an app in the recent list in Android 10. Anyone know how to do it?
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Each tile you see in the recents screen should show the app title and the usual three dots to open a pop-up menu. There you can lock the app, show app details etc

lm089 said:
Each tile you see in the recents screen should show the app title and the usual three dots to open a pop-up menu. There you can lock the app, show app details etc
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Thanks for taking the time to reply. Appreciate it.
Still not seeing it.
Where do I click?

James_Oakley said:
Thanks for taking the time to reply. Appreciate it.
Still not seeing it.
Where do I click?
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Your screenshot shows the app settings. You need to bring up the "recents" screen instead. If you're using the standard navigation bar that is the square button at the right end of the nav bar (screenshot #1, blue mark).
Then you flip through your recently opened apps until you find the one you're looking for. From then on it's as I described before: tap the 3 dots (screenshot #1, red mark). in the pop up menu select the "lock" entry (screenshot #2, green mark)
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lm089 said:
Your screenshot shows the app settings. You need to bring up the "recents" screen instead. If you're using the standard navigation bar that is the square button at the right end of the nav bar (screenshot #1, blue mark).
Then you flip through your recently opened apps until you find the one you're looking for. From then on it's as I described before: tap the 3 dots (screenshot #1, red mark). in the pop up menu select the "lock" entry (screenshot #2, green mark)
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Thanks - got it. When I read about "recents" in this thread earlier, I assumed it was when you go to Settings > Apps and you're first shown a list of recent apps. I've now got what everyone is talking about, thanks to your patient explaining. I'm sure this will help others too. On my phone, there's no nav bar it's all done with gestures, so you swipe up from the bottom of the screen - then lock Titanium in place. Bingo, and thank you.