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Maybe this shows that I am a noob, but here it goes.
I want to save my battary power when running the GPS, but all the power saveing settings turn the phone onto standby, thus loosing GPS lock (and when I am using my better bluetooth GPS, it locks out the bluetooth and I have to re-boot). Is there some why to just turn of the screen? Is that "an app for that"? I am currently trying out SVM Power Manager, but you can not set it to turn the screen off in 2 minites or whatever. To use it how I need, I would have to turn off the OS's power saver, and always manualy turn off the screen using SVM Power Manager. All the power manager apps I have seen work like that.
Help!
you will probably have to buy an extended battery man. i think even real android phones batteries drain pretty quick from what i hear.
Did some testing. It seems that the battery will last for about 5h with the screen of (using SVM Power Manager to turn it off), and the GPS running (GPSed running it).
Understood that the battery is just under powered, but I was wondering if there was a way to make the screen automaticaly turn off after X amount of time, but not have the phone go into standby.
I also bought one of those battery powered battery chargers (battery extender). But the one I got turned out to have only 500mAh (compared with 1100mAh in the phone battery), so it turned out to only help a bit. Maybe I will try to make one with a voltage regulator and a rechargable 9V battery
I think one of the pmsleepmodes may support this (in default.txt) Try 2 or 3. It seems like one of these didnt do a full power collapse, but did turn the screen off.
katmandu421: I am not familiar with this stuff. Can you give me a bit of a more detailed explination?
Is this a built in windows mobile funciton. Can I access this in the registry?
I love it how most of us would assume he's talking Android. Yes in android, editing your default.txt to sleep mode 0 would turn off the screen, but not sleep the system. 1,2, or 3 would allow the different system board types used in various Vogues to go to sleep.
WinMo however is a different story. The GPS in the Vogue is a low power chip, but from everything I can gather is requires the system to stay fully awake. If you find an app that allows you to turn off your screen, post back but I don't believe there is much hope to that. Windows seems to think that when the lights go out, it's sleepy time.
Also, the radio on the Vogue doesn't sleep, and it's use to wake up the phone i.e. incoming calls. The GPS is part of the radio so if there is a way to keep the system board awake, in theory it should work.
SVM Power Manager will turn off the screen while keeping everything awake, but it is not automatic. I have maped the camera button to this program, so it is not a huge hassle, but I realy would like to have it automatic.
Will consider installing Android.
Titus_Andronicus said:
SVM Power Manager will turn off the screen while keeping everything awake, but it is not automatic. I have maped the camera button to this program, so it is not a huge hassle, but I realy would like to have it automatic.
Will consider installing Android.
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Did anyone ever figure out how to do this? I'm trying to figure this out as well. After finally getting GPS to work, now I'd like to be able to use some apps that need to run when in standby.
mnations said:
Did anyone ever figure out how to do this? I'm trying to figure this out as well. After finally getting GPS to work, now I'd like to be able to use some apps that need to run when in standby.
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Check on Dev&Hacking. An app just came out today that does exactly what you are asking for here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=707458
Enjoy
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Check on Dev&Hacking. An app just came out today that does exactly what you are asking for here.
Enjoy
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Thanks! That looks like a handy app.
An update (in case anyone hits this thread later)...I made this one change which seemed to clear up all of the problems (found elsewhere but can't post outside link yet.)
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\{7C4B7A3 8-5FF7-4bc1-80F6-5DA7870BB1AA}\Connections\Phone as Modem]
"Enabled"=dword:00000000"
Now this is in conjunction with QuickGPS and all the other fiddling I've done, so I don't if this alone is responsible.
However, when running Google Maps or other GPS applications I get a lock within 5-15 secs. Also, when coming back from standby it's able to re-lock in the same amount of time. This normally required a soft restart before.
For apps that track your routes, such as SportyPal which I've been using for mapping my bike rides, they can keep a lock even in standby mode. I'm not sure if the app itself is able to hold a lock or if QuickGPS may be helping it. Either way it works.
I tried to find a solution for my problem, but I couldn't find any.
Everytime I plug in my phone for charging the display turns on and stays on, same thing happens when I disconnect my phone from the charger. The screen in GingerBread (JVQ) doesn't timeout like it timed out in Froyo/Eclair. This could be potentially a huge problem for your screen. You could get a "burn-in" effect if you get a power outtage while charging and you're asleep/away.
Thankfully there's Tasker (It's a paid app!).
With Tasker you can turn off your screen while you connect/disconnect your phone from your charger.
Here is how I set it up:
Add Profile and name it: TurnOffDisplayOnCharging
Add State-->Power-->I selected only AC
Add Enter Task: Add Tasker-->Wait-->5 seconds and then Add Display-->System Lock (You will need to add Tasker to your device administrators.).
Add Exit Task: Do the same like you did for your Enter Task above.
Of course you don't need to have both Tasks, you could only have an Enter Task or only an Exit Task, it's up to you.
You can also change the timeout/wait time or add any other setting if you like.
Solution 2 (free solution!):
WakeLocker for Galaxy S.
I've uninstalled the app and restarted my phone and the settings stayed! Yay!
Timeout is the same what you have set for "Screen timeout" under Settings-->Display.
I hope this thread was helpful!
display ALWAYS turns off while charging
unless you use modification that enables such setting
plus you must activate such setting to have 'screen steaying on when pluged in'
$omator said:
display ALWAYS turns off while charging
unless you use modification that enables such setting
plus you must activate such setting to have 'screen steaying on when pluged in'
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Guess Juwe's ROM has such setting enabled.
as youve mentioned such setting might lead to burining screen pisxels
i think if juwe woiuld activate such settign he would put some information about this in huge red letters
$omator said:
as youve mentioned such setting might lead to burining screen pisxels
i think if juwe woiuld activate such settign he would put some information about this in huge red letters
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So... you're saying there's something else keeping my display turned on after I connect/disconnect my phone from the charger? An app maybe, or some hidden setting?
And, NO, I don't have "Stay awake" option in Settings-->Applications-->Development, only "USB debugging" and "Allow mock locations".
yup something is wrong with your phone, never had such issue
and the only way i know to make display always on is this setting
I just did a re-search on Google for my problem and found your thread (it's even in your signature).
And one of the features for Stock+ is:
+ Enabled stay awake for ac and usb in settings/applications/development
Also found some other people with different roms have this same problem.
Guess this solution might be a good quick fix, instead of re-flashing/searching for other suitable roms.
as for stock+ look at my signature
as for the bug, as i said never hadsuch issue so realy hard to tell what can cause it
but that is not how properly working phone is behaving for sure
and not a problem of stock firmware
As much as strange this will sound.. this is not a bug, it's a feature...
Juwe has it implemented on his rom, as it is also in some other custom roms. I personally can't think of a proper use for this, but, trust me it's a feature. In Juwe and the other roms it is implemented as a setting somewhere in the settings(normally in 'Settings-->Applications-->Development' and sometimes in the display section). But it can also be enabled, if supported by rom (in stock it's not) , when using either SGS Tools, Nitranity or Spare Parts.. can't remember which one exactly sorry. try to remember if you used any kind of tool app to mess around
but leaving it ON as a default is stupid - as said it will 'burn out' your phone display
it MUST be optional - and information about this should be in big red text
Well, $omator , I am a big fan of yours, really! AND your are ABSOLUTELY, TOTALLY, UNDOUBTEDLY RIGHT, but even so that is not the case I know it for a reason because I played a lot with my SGS, since I got it. I have seen this in settings and availability to be enabled through an app.
Really hope you fix your problem, yani2000, shame to burn out accidentally the display. Until you resolve your issue you might want to try charging the phone while it's shut off and see if display still turns on. If not this a temporary fix
moegrave suggested an app for this solution and I've found it!
WakeLocker for Galaxy S (free app on the market!).
Guess there's an app for every trouble GalaxyS has.
EDIT: I've uninstalled the app and restarted my phone and the settings stayed! Yay!
Timeout is the same what you have set for "Screen timeout" under Settings-->Display.
@$omator:
This becomes a problem only if there's a power outtage or somehow your phone gets disconnected from the charger and you're away or asleep.
The phone doesn't wake up and stays on after 100% charge and eats the battery (like some have reported in other various threads).
So this is not such a big deal, but could be dangerous for your screen (burn-in effect) if it actually happens.
glad to be of assistance, yani2000
and guess there ARE apps for everything nowadays
thanks you so muchh you have solved my biggest problem
i have a custom rom on my sgs ii and i had this problem
thanks
Hi there,
I installed CM10 (thanks a lot for it by the way) this morning and it seems my display sometimes just activates without reason. At first I only noticed the device being extremely warm, so I check battery usage and 92% of it have been "display". The device went from 95% to about 50% in a matter of a two or three hours with me not using the tablet at all in that time. When I checked again a little later, the display was active, although I am sure I had sent the device to sleep mode.
Also, here are two features I would like to request:
1. Please add a way to rotate the lockscreen
2. Please add Mobile Data as a switch for the quick settings (the one you get to by "clicking" the clock). It is rather annoying to go through the menu to activate / deactivate it...
The.Vortex said:
1. Please add a way to rotate the lockscreen
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OK, found the fix for that problem... the other one still stands
And I have got an additional issue now:
my Mobile Data Connection doesn't work. My carrier is o2 Germany and the stock ROM had some issues with that carrier as well a while back. Maybe it is the same problem?
For now I am switching back to stock, without mobile data, the tablet is only half as usefull, even with the otherwise better ROM
Add your APN Setting manually and it works nice. They are in the 3G Settings. I even had to just add a almost empty one to make things wake up again.
The.Vortex said:
Hi there,
I installed CM10 (thanks a lot for it by the way) this morning and it seems my display sometimes just activates without reason. At first I only noticed the device being extremely warm, so I check battery usage and 92% of it have been "display". The device went from 95% to about 50% in a matter of a two or three hours with me not using the tablet at all in that time. When I checked again a little later, the display was active, although I am sure I had sent the device to sleep mode.
Also, here are two features I would like to request:
1. Please add a way to rotate the lockscreen
2. Please add Mobile Data as a switch for the quick settings (the one you get to by "clicking" the clock). It is rather annoying to go through the menu to activate / deactivate it...
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I have actually experienced the opposite--battery has been outstanding since flashing the ROM. I usually turn on Airplane mode when I am not using the phone, and am certain to turn off WiFi as well. Try that and see if it makes a difference. Also, be sure you are charging with an appropriate charger!
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Add your APN Setting manually and it works nice. They are in the 3G Settings. I even had to just add a almost empty one to make things wake up again.
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Thanks, that solved the 3G issue and, as far as I can tell after one day, the issue with the screen activating, as well.
For the other point, being able to activate / deactivate the mobile data easily, I found Power Toggle (can't post link, just look for it in the play market or remove the blanks: ht tps://play.google. com/store/apps/details?id=com.painless.pc) which can add a widget to the notification area that works great
You can add more switches to the menu popping up when clicking on the clock. Thats what I did. Its in System -> Notification Bar (Or something like that, I use it in German ^^)
I don't wish to entirely disable the front buttons, I only want them to stop responding when the phone is locked (I want them to function when the phone is unlocked). Don't misunderstand: I am not looking to simply disable the light. I want the buttons to be completely 'dead' when the phone is locked up. It's actually my bf's phone, and the buttons get accidentally pressed a lot when it's in his pocket. The phone will drain 60% in just 5 hours with no screen time, just locked and in his pocket (at work). I'm tweaking the phone to last longer, but I feel that having the buttons able to be pressed even while locked can't be good for the battery. :/ Someone correct me if I'm wrong with that (but even if I am, it's still annoying... what is the purpose of the buttons being 'live' while the screen is off???). The phone is a i9505, rooted on CM12.1 with Xposed, so modules could be suggested if any such fix exists. I have the home button disabled from waking the screen, but there doesn't seem to be an option anywhere about the back and menu buttons. I know the battery on my own phone, a Huawei, is much larger, but I only experience about 6% battery loss when the screen is off for 7-9 hours, so losing 60% seems excessive to me. I've checked battery stats on the Samsung, nothing seems abnormal. Is it even possible to fix what I'm asking? Thanks to anyone who helps!
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I don't wish to entirely disable the front buttons, I only want them to stop responding when the phone is locked (I want them to function when the phone is unlocked). Don't misunderstand: I am not looking to simply disable the light. I want the buttons to be completely 'dead' when the phone is locked up. It's actually my bf's phone, and the buttons get accidentally pressed a lot when it's in his pocket. The phone will drain 60% in just 5 hours with no screen time, just locked and in his pocket (at work). I'm tweaking the phone to last longer, but I feel that having the buttons able to be pressed even while locked can't be good for the battery. :/ Someone correct me if I'm wrong with that (but even if I am, it's still annoying... what is the purpose of the buttons being 'live' while the screen is off???). The phone is a i9505, rooted on CM12.1 with Xposed, so modules could be suggested if any such fix exists. I have the home button disabled from waking the screen, but there doesn't seem to be an option anywhere about the back and menu buttons. I know the battery on my own phone, a Huawei, is much larger, but I only experience about 6% battery loss when the screen is off for 7-9 hours, so losing 60% seems excessive to me. I've checked battery stats on the Samsung, nothing seems abnormal. Is it even possible to fix what I'm asking? Thanks to anyone who helps!
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The keys are never on by default when the screen is off. So you either applied a setting to enable it or you have some mod applied.
Lennyz1988 said:
The keys are never on by default when the screen is off. So you either applied a setting to enable it or you have some mod applied.
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I wouldn't have enabled a setting for this purposely, as it's quite annoying. I may also be wrong, but if I remember correctly, this was existent even on stock non-rooted. I have CM12.1 on it, Xposed modules are: Always Correct, APM+, BootManager, Secure Settings, Xposed Additions, YouTube AdAway, and YouTube Background Playback.
If there is a setting for this, let's say he or I accidentally enabled it, so would you know any suggestions of how to find such a setting, so it can be switched back? I appreciate you taking the time to answer.
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I wouldn't have enabled a setting for this purposely, as it's quite annoying. I may also be wrong, but if I remember correctly, this was existent even on stock non-rooted. I have CM12.1 on it, Xposed modules are: Always Correct, APM+, BootManager, Secure Settings, Xposed Additions, YouTube AdAway, and YouTube Background Playback.
If there is a setting for this, let's say he or I accidentally enabled it, so would you know any suggestions of how to find such a setting, so it can be switched back? I appreciate you taking the time to answer.
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When the screen is off then menu and back don't work. Do you have ambient display enabled by any chance? Disable it.
Did you try a different battery? Maybe his battery needs to be replaced.
Lennyz1988 said:
When the screen is off then menu and back don't work. Do you have ambient display enabled by any chance? Disable it.
Did you try a different battery? Maybe his battery needs to be replaced.
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Oh no, you're right about that. Back and menu doesn't actually do anything when touched while locked, but they do light up and respond in that sense (interestingly, they do also wake the screen while it's locked in TWRP, though perhaps that's irrelevant). Ambient display isn't enabled. We haven't tried a different battery, he just got the phone about a month ago. Then again, I also haven't the health of the battery. Maybe it came with a bad one.
When the screen is off, the back and menu buttons should not work. Not even the lights.
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Oh no, you're right about that. Back and menu doesn't actually do anything when touched while locked, but they do light up and respond in that sense (interestingly, they do also wake the screen while it's locked in TWRP, though perhaps that's irrelevant). Ambient display isn't enabled. We haven't tried a different battery, he just got the phone about a month ago. Then again, I also haven't the health of the battery. Maybe it came with a bad one.
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I understand you now. Yes when they the phone is locked and the screen is on, they will light up. That's normal and does not give any battery drain. Post some battery screenshots and post screens of the app betterbatterystats.
Lennyz1988 said:
I understand you now. Yes when they the phone is locked and the screen is on, they will light up. That's normal and does not give any battery drain. Post some battery screenshots and post screens of the app betterbatterystats.
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Ah got it. Good to know it's not impacting his battery, but that also leaves it open as to what IS (though, the buttons lighting up while it's locked still makes me scratch my head at what Samsung was thinking). Currently going to sleep at the moment, so I'll have to take a look at it tomorrow. I know Opera Max, a VPN data compression app, was chewing up battery (did this on my phone too, but eventually it settled down with the ROM), but I froze it for the moment so it won't run until I figure out what else is causing the problem. Battery life was poor even before the installation.
Other than that, battery stats have been normal, with the display taking the majority followed by Opera browser and the Android system, with some others. Nothing outrageous.
But since you mentioned about the battery, I did start noticing more things about the phone today. Perhaps it runs so hot because of it, and I also saw that when he unplugs it from the wall charger, it will immediately drop from 100% to 90-some% (varies). Might be the calibration, but with everything else, I ended up ordering an Anker replacement from Amazon to test.
The S4 heating is normal.
Also, it's not healthy for the battery to spend extended periods of time at 100%. That is why it drops faster from 100%.
Has anyone else noticed that notifications seem to be super slow in coming after the Pie update? Line and Email can take up to two hours to exhibit a notification. I've looked at the notifications area of the apps, and nothing appears to have changed that I can see, and I can't find anywhere in Pie to tell it to allow more background time for these apps. I've tried force stopping and restarting with no change.
If anyone has any idea on what is going on, and how to fix it, your help would be most appreciated. Being told your wife left you a Line message 2 hours after she did so, or that your kid sent an email 2 hours earlier, is NOT conducive to a happy home life.
Nobody else has this issue? It appears to be connected to the fact that the phone is sitting undisturbed for a long period of time. If I am carrying the phone around with me, the notifications seem to come as expected, but if the phone is just sitting on my desk for a while, they seem to come from minutes to hours later.
You could try to whitelist those apps on Battery Optimization
I'm no expert, but from what you describe sounds like the phone is entering into Doze and notifications cannot come until the next maintenance window
If a user leaves a device unplugged and stationary for a period of time, with the screen off, the device enters Doze mode. In Doze mode, the system attempts to conserve battery by restricting apps' access to network and CPU-intensive services. It also prevents apps from accessing the network and defers their jobs, syncs, and standard alarms.
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https://developer.android.com/training/monitoring-device-state/doze-standby
I think white listing the app prevents this behaviour
It does sound like you are correct and the phone is entering Doze mode, delaying the notifications. Thanks for that!
I will check into how to add the email and Line app to a whitelist for Doze. Hopefully it's a simple task, but I don't see anything under Battery doing a quick scan.
Just a follow up. After much searching and reading, I finally found where to turn off battery optimization for the two apps I needed notifications from. FYI:
Most things on the web say to go to Settings->Battery, then hit the three dot menu and select Battery Optimization. This does not appear on my phone. (see screenshot) To get to the list of optimized apps, you need to Search->Battery Optimization, select Battery Optimization from the results (it will take a few seconds to load), then tap Not Optimized and select All Apps. Find the app you want, tap it, then select Don't Optimize. You can also go to Apps and Notifications->Advanced->Special app access->battery optimization.
Whether this will actually fix the problem is another question entirely as most posts say that Doze continues to work. I guess we shall see.
I hope this saves someone the aggravation of trying to find something directly relating to Pie. Most things out there are for older builds.
Also, I turned off Adaptive Battery to see what the actual difference is in my light usage use case. If you are interested in the results of this test, let me know and I will post here.
Glad you were able to whitelist those apps.
I think it's weird anyway, as far as I know deep doze takes hours to trigger and the device has to be completely still. Any movement would take the device off deep sleep and enter a less aggressive doze (where notifications would be checked more often)
You did mention this is your case (you were leaving your device on your desk) but just for curiosity, how long approx would you leave your phone unattended?
Thanks and I hope this solves your issue.
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Glad you were able to whitelist those apps.
I think it's weird anyway, as far as I know deep doze takes hours to trigger and the device has to be completely still. Any movement would take the device off deep sleep and enter a less aggressive doze (where notifications would be checked more often)
You did mention this is your case (you were leaving your device on your desk) but just for curiosity, how long approx would you leave your phone unattended?
Thanks and I hope this solves your issue.
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Unlike some folks, I am not tied to my phone. It often sits on the desk undisturbed for 3 or 4 hours during the day unless a notification comes in and I pick it up to look at it. Most of my screen time is on my computer, so the phone is the external brain when out and about, but not used much otherwise. At night, I turn on airplane mode until I get up the next day, then turn it off. I'm a retired software engineer, so have no real need for constant communication anymore, and I like it that way.