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Hi guys
I'm hoping to get some help from you with deciding head unit for my Ford S-Max. I'm doing a research about it but still a bit confused.
I have few units I'm looking at,
1. Ford specific Joying - JY-FL124N2 ( Android 5.1.1 Lollipop 2GB RAM Intel SoFIA 3GR , 4 Cores )
2. Universal Joying - JY-UL135N2 ( Android 5.1.1 Lollipop 2GB RAM Intel SoFIA 3GR , 4 Cores )
3. Ford specyfic Xtrons - PF75QSFAP-S ( Android 5.1 Lollipop 64 Bit Operating System Quad Core )
4. Ford specyfic Xtrons - PCD76QSFA-S ( Android 6.0 Marshmallow quad core Cortex A7 )
5. Ford specyfic Xtrons - PF70FSFS-S ( 800MHZ Cortex A7 Processor and latest WinCE6.0 )
I'm really into buying ford specific Joying with SoFIA, i was reading about it and plenty of people suggest to buy this one and all seems good but there is one big minus of it, there is no DVD slot (which isn't a problem) the problem is with 2 NOT working buttons 'eject cd' and 'dvd' which is very annoying and taking up the space... I've asked support if there is a chance to reuse (re-programme) those buttons for something else but got no response about that.
Anyway I like the Universal Joying unit the most, one volume knob, few buttons, looks much better then ford specific ones but there is a problem with wiring, its needed to get the harness etc from other source and whats worst connect all that to be working, steering wheels controls are the most stressful for me, and need to get some dash kit for installation. So I will end up with a frame in a frame (unit itself), so it will be very visible that this is a after market unit.
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If you have any other suggestions please dont hesitate to say.
This will be used mostly for youtube, some movies for my kids, playing music from my phone (Xperia Z3), making calls, using internet from my phone or hotspots, navigation (probably google maps as i like them the most). I also want to get the rear camera with it
Any ideas welccome, thanks!
R
What year is your S-max? For the newer ones (post 2011or so) it's hard to change the OEM unit because the airco controls are integrated.
Johan
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What year is your S-max? For the newer ones (post 2011or so) it's hard to change the OEM unit because the airco controls are integrated.
Johan
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Hey Johan, thanks for asking...its 2006 Ford S-Max so its easy enough with those specific ones.
I was thinking about it and decided to use one of the specific ones, less hassle with installation and looks better, less after market. But Im not sure which one to pick, I dont have a big budget for this and would prefer to spend around € 200 on it but i dont want to be disappointed with how the unit works, i need it to work mostly with rear camera, playing music from my phone and simultaneously using navigation or playing videos in the back screens (when i finally buy them, plan for future), making calls, some youtube for kids during the trip...i just have enough of drained batteries in phones by 'wheels on the bus' songs lol
In my opinion, as a general rule you should pick up an unit with 2Gb of Ram and physical buttons.
A quad core is also recommended and to be honest I don't think that you need more then quad. There are some new units with octa but I haven't read more info and don't know if they worth the trouble.
Also I would pick a Ford specific unit because it fits perfectly in the dash compared to a standard 2DIN with various adapters that are not always up to standard most of the time.
Sofia looks like a good option, I am also interested in one... I began to read about it... I need to replace my 2 year old 3066 (KYD) unit.
I am mostly seeking it's instant on feature since I got tired of waiting for 30-40 seconds for my unit to boot each time I start my car.
Also I am not sure that you should opt for a CD unit since most don't use CD's anymore.... but that's up to you.
From my experience these aftermarket silver units are a different shade (brighter) of silver compared to the silver dash Ford elements.
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Hi guys
I'm hoping to get some help from you with deciding head unit for my Ford S-Max. I'm doing a research about it but still a bit confused.
I have few units I'm looking at,
1. Ford specific Joying - JY-FL124N2 ( Android 5.1.1 Lollipop 2GB RAM Intel SoFIA 3GR , 4 Cores )
2. Universal Joying - JY-UL135N2 ( Android 5.1.1 Lollipop 2GB RAM Intel SoFIA 3GR , 4 Cores )
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In my opinion, as a general rule you should pick up an unit with 2Gb of Ram and physical buttons.
A quad core is also recommended and to be honest I don't think that you need more then quad. There are some new units with octa but I haven't read more info and don't know if they worth the trouble.
Also I would pick a Ford specific unit because it fits perfectly in the dash compared to a standard 2DIN with various adapters that are not always up to standard most of the time.
Sofia looks like a good option, I am also interested in one... I began to read about it... I need to replace my 2 year old 3066 (KYD) unit.
I am mostly seeking it's instant on feature since I got tired of waiting for 30-40 seconds for my unit to boot each time I start my car.
Also I am not sure that you should opt for a CD unit since most don't use CD's anymore.... but that's up to you.
From my experience these aftermarket silver units are a different shade (brighter) of silver compared to the silver dash Ford elements.
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Hey
Thanks for spending time to reply.
Yes i also decided to go with a Ford specific, i know the shade might be different but it will still look better then universal unit with frames...The only thing that is annoying is those 2 not working buttons...
It would be good enough if we can programme them but probably those are just blank covers without a button.
nouserr said:
Hey
Thanks for spending time to reply.
Yes i also decided to go with a Ford specific, i know the shade might be different but it will still look better then universal unit with frames...The only thing that is annoying is those 2 not working buttons...
It would be good enough if we can programme them but probably those are just blank covers without a button.
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Glad I could help, I have a Mondeo (oval shape headunit unit) myself and exchanged quite a lot of headunits, I had 2 x 2DIN units and 2 x Ford specific ones. With the 2 DIN I had a hard tine finding adapters that fit perfectly but never got one with the right shade of silver or the perfect shape to accommodate the dash and the 2DIN unit... So I gave up on 2DIN units based on the adapters headache and overall look.
I mentioned that thing about the silver shade because you don't have this problem if you buy it black
Some people are bothered if it's not the same shade.
Yes, those 2 dummy buttons annoys me as well but there's nothing we can do... Overall the buttons layout is not for my liking. I would have preferred the standard android buttons on one side (back, home...) and multimedia buttons on the other side (play, stop...). But they tried really hard to cut the costs this time using old parts and completely cutting out the CD/DVD unit. For me the CD/DVD is useless because with all the streaming services I haven't touched an CD in the last 3 years. The DVD player in the car is also useless for me... when I drive I need waze/gmaps/igo/here and PlayerPro/XiiaLive Pro.
The Sofia unit needs a little modding from what I have read... you definitely need to stop the killing app service, install Viper4Android because the 3 band default EQ is really poor in general... and probably many more... still reading on the problems the unit has and the workarounds.
One thing I can say for sure.. if it weren't for the XDA forum and all these great people I would never consider buying an Chinese unit because out of the box it's pretty poor software wise.
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I'm really into buying ford specific Joying with SoFIA, i was reading about it and plenty of people suggest to buy this one and all seems good but there is one big minus of it, there is no DVD slot (which isn't a problem) the problem is with 2 NOT working buttons 'eject cd' and 'dvd' which is very annoying and taking up the space... I've asked support if there is a chance to reuse (re-programme) those buttons for something else but got no response about that.
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Hi all.
I've recently bought the Joying EU-JY-FL121N2 model, so it fits for a bit newer Modeo/S-max/Focus. In my model there is a dvd slot but it's blanked (not as in the pictures of the hu on the Joying website). The most important thing for you may be the fact that the 'dvd' and 'eject' buttons do work, they just don't do nothing on default. With the
Joying 2GB - Steering wheel key customization - V4 (NO KILL)
mod I am able to use them. I can't be 100% sure that there is the same situation with the other models but I suppose that in fact it is.
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Hi all.
I've recently bought the Joying EU-JY-FL121N2 model, so it fits for a bit newer Modeo/S-max/Focus. In my model there is a dvd slot but it's blanked (not as in the pictures of the hu on the Joying website). The most important thing for you may be the fact that the 'dvd' and 'eject' buttons do work, they just don't do nothing on default. With the
Joying 2GB - Steering wheel key customization - V4 (NO KILL)
mod I am able to use them. I can't be 100% sure that there is the same situation with the other models but I suppose that in fact it is.
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Can you please take a picture of your unit and show us how it looks... the pictures from the website are old renderings that had the CD slot removed in Photoshop. I would like to see a real picture if possible.
Let me get straight you managed to remap those buttons to do something else with the help of the mod "Joying 2GB - Steering wheel key customization - V4 (NO KILL)"?
Thank you !
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Can you please take a picture of your unit and show us how it looks... the pictures from the website are old renderings that had the CD slot removed in Photoshop. I would like to see a real picture if possible.
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Here you go. The whole unit first:
drive.google.com/open?id=0B7ILN8lhPUkFLWxMcVdyNDZQUGM
And now the picture of the "dvd slot". I shot it with flash so you can see there is no hole:
drive.google.com/open?id=0B7ILN8lhPUkFYXFCNEQxbGZyckk
Let me get straight you managed to remap those buttons to do something else with the help of the mod "Joying 2GB - Steering wheel key customization - V4 (NO KILL)"?
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That is exactly what I did. In my unit I've got the following codes:
31 - DVD button
32 - EJECT button
33 - MEDIA button
34 - RADIO button
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Here you go. The whole unit first:
drive.google.com/open?id=0B7ILN8lhPUkFLWxMcVdyNDZQUGM
And now the picture of the "dvd slot". I shot it with flash so you can see there is no hole:
drive.google.com/open?id=0B7ILN8lhPUkFYXFCNEQxbGZyckk
That is exactly what I did. In my unit I've got the following codes:
31 - DVD button
32 - EJECT button
33 - MEDIA button
34 - RADIO button
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Thank you VERY much for the feedback. The pictures are great. They differ a lot from what they posted ... Surprise! the DVD slot is still there... only that is blocked... hmm.....
I pictured that they at least get rid of the slot and the side lights (that I presume that they still lit the fake cd slot)... kinda sloppy decision.... eh... whatever....
The unit looks good... I am definately getting one.
1. Since I have an Mondeo and I will be getting the exact same unit I gotta ask if everything went fine as for some units there are problems with steering wheel buttons (vol up and down, next, prev) especially the M button in the middle (you can't configure it to do anything)? Do they work ok?
2. Did you encounter problems at start (the unit start command, power on, is sent through CAN and actually interpreted and enable by the chinese CAN decoder) ?
3. Does the instant power on feature works ok?
4. The unit hardware buttons backlight colour match the car dashboard?
5. Is the screen bright enough?
6. At night does it dimm enough or do you need to use some software to dimm it even more? (like I feed the need on my unit, if I turn down the brightness even if it goes prett down I still feel the need to make my screen even darker for those white background apps like Google Play Music)
Thank you !
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1. Since I have an Mondeo and I will be getting the exact same unit I gotta ask if everything went fine as for some units there are problems with steering wheel buttons (vol up and down, next, prev) especially the M button in the middle (you can't configure it to do anything)? Do they work ok?
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I was able to get the steering wheel buttons work. I only use those on the left side, but all of them work: vol up/down, next/prev and the 'M' button. In my case the wheel buttons work with connecting 'KEY2' wire - sorry but I don't remember details right know - it is described in the manual from Joying (which is included with the HU). At start after cutting some wire I connected it from the wrong side with the KEY2 one, but then I've noticed a youtube clip
youtube.com/watch?v=QaJqWy9Tk24
and did the same way, but I had to stay with the canbus decoder connected (the only difference from the method shown above).
2. Did you encounter problems at start (the unit start command, power on, is sent through CAN and actually interpreted and enable by the chinese CAN decoder) ?
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I don't quite understand what you've wrote in brackets - I haven't noticed any weird behaviour with starting the unit.
3. Does the instant power on feature works ok?
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Yes, it does actually. I don't know much about the battery drain - I've got the unit for a week only. But I've seen somewhere in the forum statistics of the processor activity during the night and it was almost 100% deep sleep so I'm hoping it's ok.
4. The unit hardware buttons backlight colour match the car dashboard?
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Essentially, yes. In more details: I've set up the red colour (the option of changing colour is visible only with car's lights on - not that much obvious to me) and in the daylight it looks a bit pale - you can see it on the pictures I gave. But when it's dark they look very nice to me - the same or almost the same colour as on the dashboard.
5. Is the screen bright enough?
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We haven't had many sunny days during the last week, so I may only say - I can see what's on the screen, but I don't think I'm going to use it to watch movies - radio, music, bluetooth, maps - for now it's all I need.
6. At night does it dimm enough or do you need to use some software to dimm it even more? (like I feed the need on my unit, if I turn down the brightness even if it goes prett down I still feel the need to make my screen even darker for those white background apps like Google Play Music)
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I can't tell anything about that to be honest, this is to check yet. I'm not very sure but I think that the 28 march update brought some more options for backlight of the screen (but it may have been there before also).
I ordered it just now, hope it goes well !
Thank you for all the feedback !
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Did it start instantly each day or there were days when it booted slowly?
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Did it start instantly each day or there were days when it booted slowly?
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I didn't notice the last question, so maybe the answer is for other people right now - I haven't got any cold boot yet.
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I didn't notice the last question, so maybe the answer is for other people right now - I haven't got any cold boot yet.
Sent from my D5803 using XDA-Developers Legacy app
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That is nice to know... I am hoping that my unit will be here in the next 2-3 days... and then it's mod time... lots of work
Have you hard moded yours to add additional cooling to the unit (heatsinks or fans) or did you let it stock? Have you noticed cpu throttling ? Have you checked the CPU temp? (not sure how users checked it out, probably with an app)
Don't know if I will mod my unit, I am not ready to give up the warranty from day 1.
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Have you hard moded yours to add additional cooling to the unit (heatsinks or fans) or did you let it stock? Have you noticed cpu throttling ?
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AFAIK people here have got some throttling during cpu stress (some benchmarks I think) - I use the unit for listening to the radio, music, phone calls and navigation, for now at least. I don't think those actions will stress the hu at all or maybe in some small amount - I hope so at least...
Have you checked the CPU temp? (not sure how users checked it out, probably with an app)
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I haven't done this with the unit, but in my phone I've used cpuz. I think there are plenty of such kind of apps in Play store which even don't need root.
Don't know if I will mod my unit, I am not ready to give up the warranty from day 1.
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Right now I'm not ready to do any hardware mod and surely I don't feel I need one.
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AFAIK people here have got some throttling during cpu stress (some benchmarks I think) - I use the unit for listening to the radio, music, phone calls and navigation, for now at least. I don't think those actions will stress the hu at all or maybe in some small amount - I hope so at least...
I haven't done this with the unit, but in my phone I've used cpuz. I think there are plenty of such kind of apps in Play store which even don't need root.
Right now I'm not ready to do any hardware mod and surely I don't feel I need one.
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What is your CAN bus settings? I am really struggling with my CAN bus. My S-Max headlights are blinking when parked. I would love to know what settings you are using.
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What is your CAN bus settings? I am really struggling with my CAN bus. My S-Max headlights are blinking when parked. I would love to know what settings you are using.
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What kind of headlights do you have? In my car there are h1/h7 bulbs and I can't see any kind of blinking.
I managed to solve my issue by cutting the wire on the alarm sensor pin in the plug between my car and HU.
So I had a Joying MTCB Android car head unit, was originally 4.4 but I had upgraded it to 5.0. Its the RK3188 quad core originally with 1GB of RAM but upgraded to 2GB. I had done a few other hardware mods too (MTC Sound and some FM sound enhancements by changing some caps).
Anyway long story short ribbon cable failure led to smoke and dead headunit.
So I am now looking for a replacement, any suggestions? About my only real requirement are a physical volume knob and as shallow a mounting depth a possible (well I need 4 channel preamp outputs and also reverse camera input but I think those are a given).
I always found the radio reception crappy (well compared to the OEM and even my old Ouku unit) so something with a good radio reception would be good, but again I assume between all the Chinese units its about the same (but if someone has a personal experience of a good one I'm all ears).
I was looking at one of the Eanon 7.1 8core 32GB/2GB ones, looks like it has a shallower depth 131mm than most plus it seems to be up there spec wise. How does the 8 core All Winner compare to like the 4 core Intel? It has the volume knob and everything else I need, though I'd prefer the knob in the top left vs center left but it appears the one in the corner has a larger depth?
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So I had a Joying MTCB Android car head unit, was originally 4.4 but I had upgraded it to 5.0. Its the RK3188 quad core originally with 1GB of RAM but upgraded to 2GB. I had done a few other hardware mods too (MTC Sound and some FM sound enhancements by changing some caps).
Anyway long story short ribbon cable failure led to smoke and dead headunit.
So I am now looking for a replacement, any suggestions? About my only real requirement are a physical volume knob and as shallow a mounting depth a possible (well I need 4 channel preamp outputs and also reverse camera input but I think those are a given).
I always found the radio reception crappy (well compared to the OEM and even my old Ouku unit) so something with a good radio reception would be good, but again I assume between all the Chinese units its about the same (but if someone has a personal experience of a good one I'm all ears).
I was looking at one of the Eanon 7.1 8core 32GB/2GB ones, looks like it has a shallower depth 131mm than most plus it seems to be up there spec wise. How does the 8 core All Winner compare to like the 4 core Intel? It has the volume knob and everything else I need, though I'd prefer the knob in the top left vs center left but it appears the one in the corner has a larger depth?
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Just got this one for my wife's car (Eonon GA2167)- no DVD, so yes very shallow depth - I have an older Eonon 6.2" unit running stock 4.4.4. and there is a huge difference - much faster, better memory handling, obviously more room for apps (32GB) - it does take a hair longer to fully boot up compared to the 4.4.4., but interface, app handling good so far - screen also better (comes with a screen protector applied & a backup in the box) -
Install used similar cables, etc. but be aware that the power/speak leads do not match up to older unit - must rewire - as it's in my wife's car, will have to play with it more as I get the chance, but so far so good - definitely an upgrade from my older unit - I am quite jealous -
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Just got this one for my wife's car (Eonon GA2167)- no DVD, so yes very shallow depth - I have an older Eonon 6.2" unit running stock 4.4.4. and there is a huge difference - much faster, better memory handling, obviously more room for apps (32GB) - it does take a hair longer to fully boot up compared to the 4.4.4., but interface, app handling good so far - screen also better (comes with a screen protector applied & a backup in the box) -
Install used similar cables, etc. but be aware that the power/speak leads do not match up to older unit - must rewire - as it's in my wife's car, will have to play with it more as I get the chance, but so far so good - definitely an upgrade from my older unit - I am quite jealous -
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Thanks for the reply, I ended up pulling the trigger on a GA2167 (coupon on Amazon and a free camera too - which will just get sold since I already have a camera).
What was your older Eonon (3066, 3188 or something different, MTCB/D?) just for comparison sake. Nice to hear that it is a big step up, I am also looking forward to the shallow depth, it really was a squeeze before now I should have plenty of room.
Do you have SW controls hooked up? Do they work with 3rd party apps, i.e. Pandora, etc. I had to use some workaround on my previous one but other than that everything else pretty much worked the way I wanted on the stock ROM so hoping for the same.
Winca s190
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Winca s190
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Can you expand on that? Looks like it doesn't meet my size requirements (too deep), has significantly reduced specs (half the cores and half the storage) of the GA2167) is almost $150 more price wise, has only 2 preamp outputs not 4, so unless there radio reception is significantly better I see zero benefit in this product.
Just got my GA2167 and wow is it quick, compared to my RK3188 with 2GB RAM it boots up a bit quicker but also the Radio actually plays (if it was playing before) part way during boot up. Everything else works has expected, I think radio reception is a little better too, sound quality is good its quite a bit louder than my previous unit.
Install was easy, since my car uses standard ISO connectors. Loving the smaller depth, have to tweak my brackets now but I should get it to sit flush now, before it would stick out a mm or so just because the rear was so cramped.
USB OBDII reader worked with no problems and so did my SW controls.
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Can you expand on that?
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Nah can't be bothered
My suggestion and it's brill, research, google does wonders
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Just got my GA2167 and wow is it quick, compared to my RK3188 with 2GB RAM it boots up a bit quicker but also the Radio actually plays (if it was playing before) part way during boot up. Everything else works has expected, I think radio reception is a little better too, sound quality is good its quite a bit louder than my previous unit.
Install was easy, since my car uses standard ISO connectors. Loving the smaller depth, have to tweak my brackets now but I should get it to sit flush now, before it would stick out a mm or so just because the rear was so cramped.
USB OBDII reader worked with no problems and so did my SW controls.
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So have you had any issues with differing sound quality with the unit? On my current unit I can't use some apps because the sound quality is so poor compared to others. I cant use the Pandora or spotify app on the unit because they are so quiet and barely even push my sub, but if I use blue tooth and have it come from my phone it fixes. I'm wanting to upgrade to a unit that I can get consistent sound quality from on the apps and run front and rear channels from an external amp as well as sub and this unit does have the pre outs I need and the price is pretty good.
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Nah can't be bothered
My suggestion and it's brill, research, google does wonders
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unless i'm seeing something this still runs on the a9 and 2gb ram? curious what makes this better than the px3 px5 or sofia intel chips, some with 4gb.
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unless i'm seeing something this still runs on the a9 and 2gb ram? curious what makes this better than the px3 px5 or sofia intel chips, some with 4gb.
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**** knows
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**** knows
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Ok, thanks for the input.
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Ok, thanks for the input.
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Please use the "thanks" button in future, instead of creating new posts to say thanks
Enjoooyyy
I'll remember that for some one that actually helps out
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So have you had any issues with differing sound quality with the unit? On my current unit I can't use some apps because the sound quality is so poor compared to others. I cant use the Pandora or spotify app on the unit because they are so quiet and barely even push my sub, but if I use blue tooth and have it come from my phone it fixes. I'm wanting to upgrade to a unit that I can get consistent sound quality from on the apps and run front and rear channels from an external amp as well as sub and this unit does have the pre outs I need and the price is pretty good.
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I haven't had any issues with sound quality (I know some people on some unit have an issue where some apps only play over the front two speakers at a lower quality - kind of like the system thinks its navigation audio - but I haven't experienced that). In all fairness though all I use is Pandora and FM Radio at the moment. I do plan on dumping my whole MP3 collection over and will see how that handles it and what player (default or other) I end up using.
The only quirks I have of right now is:
1. No way to change the car logo to a custom one - mine isn't listed, not that its a huge deal since the Car logo only shows for a second or two
2. Voice dialing, at the standard DPI the Google app thinks its a tablet adjusting the DPI fixes that but breaks other apps (FM Radio, etc). Also when it is working it doesn't parse the phone number to the BT app, other 3rd party dialers do.
3. I constantly get the prompt to select an app for a USB device when starting, I have an USB OBDII adapter, even when selecting Torque Pro has the default app it doesn't seem to remember and asks me at next boot.
4. I can't remove the default widgets on the stock launcher - not a huge deal but my car has a clock with date right above the radio, no need to show it on the launcher too, would rather put some torque widgets in its place.
But all in all I'm happy with it, definitely a lot more snappy than my RK3188 unit even with a 2GB and 5.0 upgrade, some quirks but they all have quirks and nothing deal breaking.
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I haven't had any issues with sound quality (I know some people on some unit have an issue where some apps only play over the front two speakers at a lower quality - kind of like the system thinks its navigation audio - but I haven't experienced that). In all fairness though all I use is Pandora and FM Radio at the moment. I do plan on dumping my whole MP3 collection over and will see how that handles it and what player (default or other) I end up using.
The only quirks I have of right now is:
1. No way to change the car logo to a custom one - mine isn't listed, not that its a huge deal since the Car logo only shows for a second or two
2. Voice dialing, at the standard DPI the Google app thinks its a tablet adjusting the DPI fixes that but breaks other apps (FM Radio, etc). Also when it is working it doesn't parse the phone number to the BT app, other 3rd party dialers do.
3. I constantly get the prompt to select an app for a USB device when starting, I have an USB OBDII adapter, even when selecting Torque Pro has the default app it doesn't seem to remember and asks me at next boot.
4. I can't remove the default widgets on the stock launcher - not a huge deal but my car has a clock with date right above the radio, no need to show it on the launcher too, would rather put some torque widgets in its place.
But all in all I'm happy with it, definitely a lot more snappy than my RK3188 unit even with a 2GB and 5.0 upgrade, some quirks but they all have quirks and nothing deal breaking.
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Thank you! I'm happy to head about the Pandora sound that is how I'd prefer to listen but haven't been able to because of the issues on my unit and YouTube is tedious to use. When you say you can't change to a custom boot logo, does it still have some preloaded options? Or is it just the brand of the radio that boots?
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Thank you! I'm happy to head about the Pandora sound that is how I'd prefer to listen but haven't been able to because of the issues on my unit and YouTube is tedious to use. When you say you can't change to a custom boot logo, does it still have some preloaded options? Or is it just the brand of the radio that boots?
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Yes there are still about 20 or so Manufacturers to pick from, mine just isn't on the list.
Great, I think you just helped me make my decision
Just ordered the Eonon GA2167, should have it in next weekend. I'll let you know what I think of it. I was thinking about the XTRONS 4GB unit, but I just didn't see enough talk about it to feel comfortable. I'm replacing a EZTronics 1GB unit, so I'm sure I'll see a nice upgrade.
For those who have it, it says Micro SD compatible, but I don't see a slot for it?
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Just ordered the Eonon GA2167, should have it in next weekend. I'll let you know what I think of it. I was thinking about the XTRONS 4GB unit, but I just didn't see enough talk about it to feel comfortable. I'm replacing a EZTronics 1GB unit, so I'm sure I'll see a nice upgrade.
For those who have it, it says Micro SD compatible, but I don't see a slot for it?
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Beneath the volume knob a door opens up and reveals a mSD card slot and mini USB port.
I have one f this units and I am experiencing problems with the apps sound Have infinity 6x9's and 6 1/2 PPI components in the front a 1000 watt dual amp, it takes a while for the sound to come in then is very distorted I have the gain on the amp matched to the unit on the apps the front speakers barely sound. it really sucks. any fixes? how is the internal amp?
I bought this unit for the family Zafira B. It fits in lovely and I have no issues with any of it. Well, almost. One thing I hate is the status bar, which on this thing isn't small. It's pretty much constantly there, including on every GPS app I've tried. As well as being annoying and taking up far too much space, it's going to eventually result in a pretty bad case of burn in.
So, in short, I want rid of it unless I swipe down to show it, in other words I want to run immersive mode at all times. However, Xtrons don't seem to happy about making this easy. I have tried every app that should allow it but it would appear the writing of secure settings is something they have either disabled or it's not there in the first place. I have tried to root with KingRoot to no avail, it fails on 70% every time. I'm not bothered about root that much, I was only trying because it's likely it would allow me to get rid of the status bar.
Any suggestions as to what I can do at this point would be appreciated.
Model info:-
Processor Type - QuadCore-R16
Android Version - 6.0.1
MCU Version - 5.3.19-36-81-E50201-170215
System version - V7.3.1_20170505.204845_MLT1-DVD
DVD Version - 2.13.15.860mc-150417
Hi
Sorry I don't know the answer to your question but I stumbled upon this topic when searching. I am looking to replace the HU on my Zafira B and the Xtrons HUs keep popping up as they are specifically made to be compatible with Vauxhalls and come with the CANbus box so steering wheel controls work etc. The only thing that is putting me off is that all listings on ebay and Amazon and on Xtrons website say not compatible with Zafira B with on board computer. I just wonder if this is actually the case. I know that you will lose the computer button whilst installing an aftermarket stereo and that setting the clock and date can be a problem afterwards but other than that, do you find it a problem? Do you lose things like fuel consumption and fuel info from the top display or is there a way to still display them using steering wheel buttons?
I'd be interested in your thoughts as the Xtrons units seem good value.
Many thanks
Does this help?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/themes/how-to-enable-true-immersive-modes-t3554299
No root required. Description is for Pixel xl, but works on any android device
Greetings all,
Feeling very let down by Xtrons for not providing a mechanism to upgrade their headunits with releases of Android. Android is an ever improving OS and must be honest I did believe at the time of purchase that I was buying a piece of hardware that could be updated as and when. I found no suggestions this was not the case when I was choosing it and again felt confident that anything that runs Android would be upgradable.
Anyway clearly I was wrong. Xtrons do seem to bring out new units every 15 mins with newer versions of Android. Does anyone know if this unit can be upgraded?
Although I haven't opened the box yet and thus it could go back, can any user tell me if a USB hub can be used to increase the number of cameras connected. I was wondering if I can have a reversing, a rear view and a front view connected.
Many Thanks for any help.
A few weeks ago, I decided to order an Android head-unit: I didn't wanna spend to much money, so ordered a low spec unit. After my holiday I could finally install it, and overall I'm satisfied.
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It runs on an ARM A7 1.3Ghz Quad-Core, scrolling through the screen is quick enough. Although starting apps takes a little bit longer, than used to on my smartphone. However Android Auto seems to work perfectly wired, I haven't been able to get it work wireless.
Also my original USB port of the car, doesn't seem to work with my current Xiaomi Mi 10T Lite. Which uses USB C: perhaps the USB port, is simply not supporting these new USB. My experience with the original car radio was, that this USB didn't even provide enough power to run my dashcam.
Anyway, the AlliExpress seller wasn't honest: they sold me an Android 10 headunit, but it's fake. In reality it runs on Android 8, which is okay to me. Expect than I want a part of the money back, because I wouldn't have ordered it for € 150 if I knew it's actually running Android 8.
Yes I know, it's possible that Android 10 wouldn't do these low spec headunits any good, but it's still false advertising. It seems to support sleep mode just fine, it went on instantly after I turned the car on and off. But for now I have disabled deep sleep, because I wanna avoid draining my battery.
The reverse camera is slightly titled, because of the license plate bracket. But this way, I don't need any drilling or what so ever.
I did some more testing: the screen is bright enough, even during sunny days. When connecting the phone to USB, than Android Auto will start automatically. Which is to my opinion the main feature of this Android Head-unit.
Reversing camera work, but when engine is running: there is flickering, not sure what's the cause. Perhaps the 12LED's draw to much power?
Google Maps and Spotify can work standalone together, but it's slow. So better use Android Auto, because it's safer and more stable. Also sound seems to be better, when using Android Auto. Not sure if it's because, most of the processing finds place on my phone.
The ability to change car logo is nice, and steering wheel control is very bugged. It will only allow me to assign one button? If I assign multiple buttons, than all of them have number 2. Suggesting to me, it might not see that my steering wheel control has three button's.
In order to avoid the car radio everytime deleting your contacts from the phone: go in phone bluetooth setting, and disable allow sharing of contacts. Overall when mainly using it for Android Auto, then it's a good unit. As screen isn't a TN screen.
But I feel, all Android apps including Google Maps aren't made to use directly on a head-unit. So no matter how fast your headunit is, still the integration is bad. The GPS works fine, no issue there. But there isn't a compass inside the head-unit, so it relying mainly on GPS for is position.
Not sure if HereWeGo might work better, because it has the ability to download maps. Also you don't need to run Spotify on the head-unit, it can run just like the OEM car radio play by Bluetooth.
There is a button called Bluetooth, that's where you find the handsfree and everything related to your phone. I would still however refrain from using it, especially while driving. Because it's very distracting.
That's why I already start Google maps on my phone, connect the USB and with less than 30 seconds it will automatically connect to Android Auto. Also music from Spotify would start playing automatically.
If you ask me: these head-units would be way better, if Android was striped down from all useless features.
Dispute
The dispute still is going on, I have used to different apps: both report API Level 27 which means it's running Android 8.1 instead of Android 10. I knew I was buying a low budget device, which increased in price because of chipset crisis and weak euro currency.
But Android 8 is officially not supported by Google anymore: you can still use it, no issues in that. Only I wouldn't have bought it, if I knew the Android version was fake. And obviously because of my working colleague, recommending this seller. If he didn't... I wouldn't have bought from EKIY.
Now it's a back and forth, and the seller saying the information the Fake Device Test and CPU Z give are fake instead. It's a pain in the ass, and most bugs found in this cheap device are even found in the more expensive ones.
I read, that the bug from deleting your contacts on the phone already existing for many years. People even reported it on Joying units, which makes me think. No matter a low or mid range chipset, all going have similar software bugs. It's up to you, how much you wanna spend.
Thank you for a good and detailed review.
I bought an android head unit from EKIY last month, but it is the highest spec. EKIY S7 8G+128G
I don't have any issues you mentioned in the post (lucky me).
Did you buy a general android device or it is tailored specifically for your car?
Regarding the reverse camera try different picture resolution settings. I see they are selling camera rectifiers to provide stable 12V DC if the problem persists.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32954917237.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.60062e241jGhBO&algo_pvid=689c7955-2a19-4aa1-b802-97f8a8142b59&algo_exp_id=689c7955-2a19-4aa1-b802-97f8a8142b59-0&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000018709179697%22%7D&pdp_npi=2%40dis%21AED%2133.06%2116.53%21%21%2110.91%21%21%402101e9cf16602900534683194e028f%2112000018709179697%21sea&curPageLogUid=9lfhYfopE8tz
I bought device specifically for my car, but that just means EKIY puts the universal Android head-unit in a frame matching the car. And then providing the harness...
So if I buy any other universal 9 inch Android headunit, which same type of 9 inch screen. Then it should fit as well. Device works fine for Android Auto and built-in apps, so no complaints there.
But I was cheated by the seller: it is not running Android 10, but Android 8.1 which isn't supported by Google anymore. So in a way I overpaid, because it has false specifications specifications. That's why I'm having a dispute running against EKIY, but it still hasn't been resolved.
I had to provide detailed information, so I even provided a video. Now I'm waiting for a solution, the best would be full refund without having to send back. Because I would never have bought it, when it advertise the real Android version.
Also sending back isn't a real option, so I would already be happy with a partial refund and perhaps selling the device locally. But for now I'm keeping it in the car, to use it a bit longer.
I have tried this solution for the flickering, but don't know the result yet. As I haven't started engine. When I know it worked, then I will update this post. But the 12 led camera they give for free, is really bad quality image and I believe there is no need for LEDs on a reverse camera when you have a good lens.
So I have ordered an more expensive reverse camera, from GreenYi which seems good to me. I think wider view would also befit highly when reversing, so I choose option D AHD 720P. There isn't any need for 1080p, because the display don't support this resolution anyway.
GreenYi 170° AHD 720P
https://a.aliexpress.com/_v1Yg6B
DexterMorganNL said:
It seems to support sleep mode just fine, it went on instantly after I turned the car on and off. But for now I have disabled deep sleep, because I wanna avoid draining my battery.
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Hello, can you tell me where to turn off sleep mode
Yes, you are right, the seller is a liar, the android is not 10, but 8. and he does not send me the factory firmware as a backup
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But I was cheated by the seller: it is not running Android 10, but Android 8.1 which isn't supported by Google anymore. So in a way I overpaid, because it has false specifications specifications. That's why I'm having a dispute running against EKIY, but it still hasn't been resolved.
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I have another car and considering buying one more device, but probably I will skip EKIY for now.
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Hello, can you tell me where to turn off sleep mode
Yes, you are right, the seller is a liar, the android is not 10, but 8. and he does not send me the factory firmware as a backup
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Go to settings, factory settings and then you find an option called deel sleep or named slightly different. There you can put it off. But I have decided to keep it on, and now I'm observing if battery voltage doesn't drop below 12. In the last 48 hours that hasn't been the case, so I'm guessing it doesn't drain the battery.
Cold boot however is very slow: it takes 47 seconds and going from ACC to start engine will shortly switch off the device. Resulting in a second cold boot of another 47 seconds. So totally it would take about 2 mins, but when you connect the USB cable to your phone. It would automatically start Android auto. When in settings, you selected Car Link to start when usb is connected.
I filmed the boottime, you can see it's really slow. And yes don't expect any support from the seller, especially not after calling him out for cheating. Now I'm just in a big dispute and I finding it quite frustrating to be honest.
I'm regretting this purchase a little, mainly because the false Android version. Because that's something I find important as well. Basically you pay to much, when it claims to be running Android 10. No one would pay € 150 for a head-unit, running an Android version that isn't supported by Google anymore.
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And yes don't expect any support from the seller, especially not after calling him out for cheating. Now I'm just in a big dispute and I finding it quite frustrating to be honest.
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Thank you.
I also really regret that I contacted this brand.
Did you win the dispute or not? I also want to open a dispute with a partial refund.
lissics said:
I have another car and considering buying one more device, but probably I will skip EKIY for now.
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I'm considering Mekede this is an UIS7862 unit, and it has some support on XDA. Looks way better to me, than EKIY. But Mekede is also displaying fake Android 11, but they show the API Level 29 which is Android 10.
So not so much lying as EKIY: you can still find out the truth, if you know about API levels of Android.
Smith76 said:
Thank you.
I also really regret that I contacted this brand.
Did you win the dispute or not? I also want to open a dispute with a partial refund.
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The dispute is still running: AlliExpress firstly declined my evidence, so now I have made it very detailed. Seller just the whole time kept showing Android settings, claiming the Fake Device Test show false information.
I suggest half refund, but even that the seller refused. So I'm having AlliExpress step in and waiting for their solution. It's kinda a pain in the ass, but I'm hoping for a satisfied solution.
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I'm considering Mekede this is an UIS7862 unit, and it has some support on XDA. Looks way better to me, than EKIY. But Mekede is also displaying fake Android 11, but they show the API Level 29 which is Android 10.
So not so much lying as EKIY: you can still find out the truth, if you know about API levels of Android.
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Yes, the one I bought from EKIY is UIS7862 and it shows API29 in CPU-Z. It runs fast and smooth, but I paid around 300 usd
firmware for this <miracle> from where you can download ?
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Yes, the one I bought from EKIY is UIS7862 and it shows API29 in CPU-Z. It runs fast and smooth, but I paid around 300 usd
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Atleast I have an IPS screen, I mean I'm happy with the quality of the screen. I'm guessing that's a specification, which wasn't lied about.
I will keep the thread updated, about the dispute. That doesn't go so fast sadly.
I just went from my hometown to Düsseldorf: the Android Auto works really well, but using the volume button is a pain in the ass. The best is to set volume before driving, because it's hidden behind my steering wheel.
This wouldn't be an issue for British drivers, because they sit on the right. But in the Netherlands we sit on the left seat, so it's a bit more difficult to adjust volume while driving. I think this will be the same on the more expensive units.
Seller came back with: friend how you proof, your app that shows fake Android version isn't fake. Something like that she or he said.... I said the app gets information from the system, which you try to hide.
He also said, that they sell Android 10 headunits. I say yes, but the one you sold me is a fake and I wouldn't have bought it if I knew it.
Also found the option, to disable the AHD for the reverse camera. Perhaps this is the issue with the reverse camera, because it wasn't the ground wire I disconnected this morning. The reverse camera I have is definitely not AHD.....
One negative part about Android Auto, or actually the USB connection of this device: while Android Auto is running, it gets hardly any charge. So better make sure you battery isn't to empty to begin with.
The seller all of a sudden send me an update, for the EKIY D7. But when I go into the FYT Build Prop, then it's labeled as an ATOTO...
And the last line in the build prop says: ro.build.version.release=11
I'm guessing that's how they fake the Android version? In this update, which I haven't installed yet on the device. They are faking the Android version to be Android 11 making it even worse.
And in metadata, I can actually see the Android is 8.1.0
post-build=SPRD/sp7731e_1h10_native/sp7731e_1h10:8.1.0/OPM2.171019.012/19115:user/release-keys
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Or at least I'm guessing, this number refers to the real Android version.
I seriously don't know for which device this update was meant? But it didn't work on my update, and I was afraid that this stupid update almost brick the device. That doesn't matter if I get a full refund from AlliExpress....
But I still don't know what's the solution from AlliExpress going be.
So finally AliExpress made a decision about my dispute: from the € 150 I spend for this headunit, I'm going be getting € 30 back. Which I think is reasonable....
It's still a fully functional Android headunit, although running on Android 8.1 and basically incapable of running Google Maps straight from the head-unit. Other navigation apps might work perhaps better, but I haven't tested it anymore.
Now I'm looking into Mekede, which I guess I could open a dispute against this seller as well after receiving the FYT Based UIS7862 headunit.... because they also lie about Android version. Only they mention the correct API Level, so I already know it runs fake Android 11.
I'm guessing I will just be selling the headunit, either completely. Or I'm going be taking it out of the frame, and then order a new one. Because I would still need an Android head-unit, if I wanna keep the reverse camera.
Well I used the device in the end for three weeks, and have decided to replace it with an Mekede M500s. Which I should have gotten in the first place, but I simply made a wrong decision.
My end verdict would be: totally useable for Android Auto or Apple Carplay and listen to your FM-Radio or music etc. Not so much useable for running heavier Android apps.
I haven't found many light Android Apps? I tried Mapy.cz a Czech Google Maps, but that made the headunit crash and reboot. So in the end I haven't bother anymore, finding working navigation apps. Although I noticed for some kind of reason, they preinstall iGo navigation. Is that supposed to be some kind of light weight navigation app?
Another thing this headunit is useful for: hooking up your reverse camera, believe it or not it supports AHD. Because I switched the 12led reverse camera for an 720p AHD reverse camera and it worked.
Actually the main reason I'm still sticking with Android headunits, is because it seems the best choice if you don't have the option to get something OEM.
Ofcourse a JVC headunit could have done, but those have limited functionality: do they even support AHD reverse camera's? And what I have seen, the screens in these devices are of really bad quality. Similar to something you get for €$ 60 bucks on AliExpress.
I'm just hoping these head-units last a long time, because I read someone who had an iDoing headunit: it broke after a year. The only thing people never mention, how much it actually had been used.
@DexterMorganNL Thank you very much for detailing your experience with these scammers! I was very close to ordering an android T7 head unit from them so I'm very grateful for the warning. It's a shame they didn't punish these scammers harder but at least you go a bit of justice out of it by preventing others from giving them money.
Hello everyone.
I received the head unit three days ago for my Ford Fiesta (2011). It was easy to set-up. I haven't had time to install the rear camara yet.
There's one thing I find annoying however : everythime I start the device, it starts with Youtube? I'd like to start on the homepage. Do you know what to do ?
Hallo Dexter and everyone here. I am new in this forum and hope to find some information as well as sharing some.
Couple of weeks I have bought this exact unit for my beautiful 2004 Toyota Camry. I just to have same shape of unit in my Volvo and it was working ok I think, but that one was from different seller. I chose this model thinking for my usage will be good enough. Even though I am driving a lot and long distance I am still not living in my car. I just need some music, phone, Navi and the reversing camera is just a little bonus for safety. I have find some issues with this unit. The version of the Android is clamed to be 11.xxx but Google says it’s 8.xxx. The Apple car is little slow to connect but I can live with it. The only problem with this is that when I have my phone connected via Bluetooth the Apple car will not connect.
Still with switching it manually it would work. THE major problem is my original automatic antenna. I was controlled by the original radio. Radio on -antenna goes up, radio off- antenna goes down. With this EKIY unit the antenna still goes up and down with the unit on and off, but the unit is turned on with the engine start or ACC and turned off within 1-2 minutes after the engine off. And with this goes the antenna up and down. This is the problem especially when I want to drive through car wash line ( for example). I just can’t find a way to turn the radio off while driving or the engine running. The seller is telling me that it can’t be done and I am having trouble to believe it. And the other problem is the screen brittnes. I can’t dim it witch is enjoying by driving at night. I can turn it off but the unit goes into sleep mode. I still want to use it, but the sharp light of the screen is tiresome to eyes. I know this post is almost a year old but if anyone reads this, please help me. I don’t know much about Android but I hope there is some solution to the problems. Thank you all in advance. Best regards
Mario von Hallwil
emarie3680 said:
Hello everyone.
I received the head unit three days ago for my Ford Fiesta (2011). It was easy to set-up. I haven't had time to install the rear camara yet.
There's one thing I find annoying however : everythime I start the device, it starts with Youtube? I'd like to start on the homepage. Do you know what to do ?
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Hi, I believe it can be changed in factory settings. The passcode is 3368. Or using the papier clip or pin you can reset the unit, then set up your device once more. I hope this helps
Mario von Hallwil