So I just got my new 9T. I am wondering what to do with it.
I figure I might as well keep using MIUI for a bit before starting with the customs. I do, however, have all my backups done with Titanium, which needs root.
So I'm asking 2 things. Would you say I should definitely switch to customs faster or should I continue using it the way it came for a while.
And second, which steps would I take to get it rooted and install customs if I wanted to? From what I've been able to gather I need to first unlock the boot loader using a Xaomi app. This takes a week. Then to install Magisk, I would need to download official firmware and have Magisk alter the boot loader and write that back (I have never used Magisk before). Using which app for the writing? I have used ODIN so far on my Samsungs. I don't know what to use for Xaomi.
I likely could also install TWRP onto the recovery at that point.
At which point I would be prepared for customs if I wanted to. I think.
So, what are my first steps here? Thanks!
Orionos said:
So I just got my new 9T. I am wondering what to do with it.
I figure I might as well keep using MIUI for a bit before starting with the customs. I do, however, have all my backups done with Titanium, which needs root.
So I'm asking 2 things. Would you say I should definitely switch to customs faster or should I continue using it the way it came for a while.
And second, which steps would I take to get it rooted and install customs if I wanted to? From what I've been able to gather I need to first unlock the boot loader using a Xaomi app. This takes a week. Then to install Magisk, I would need to download official firmware and have Magisk alter the boot loader and write that back (I have never used Magisk before). Using which app for the writing? I have used ODIN so far on my Samsungs. I don't know what to use for Xaomi.
I likely could also install TWRP onto the recovery at that point.
At which point I would be prepared for customs if I wanted to. I think.
So, what are my first steps here? Thanks!
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You don't need Magisk/root to install custom ROMs and rooting custom ROM (if you want) should follow the custom ROM installation
For custom ROMs you will need TWRP or Orange Fox.
Magisk can be installed with or without custom Recovery
Hence apply to unlock Bootloader and decide yourself do you want to root MIUI or to go for custom ROM(s)
In the HowTo section find general guides about unlocking Bootloader, rooting and (independent of) installing custom ROMs
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Is it possible to just root my phone?
if so how do i do it?
All the posts I have seen go into unlocking and then rooting
gjjh25 said:
Is it possible to just root my phone?
if so how do i do it?
All the posts I have seen go into unlocking and then rooting
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you will need to unlock to flash custom zip, but u can relock after
gjjh25 said:
Is it possible to just root my phone?
if so how do i do it?
All the posts I have seen go into unlocking and then rooting
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Question - why? What do you want to root your phone for if not to use the wonderful tools of root. Why do you think fully rooting your phone will harm something. Locked or unlocked bootloader is not going to affect your phone. Rooted stock rom with recovery will not make it act funny.... Sorry not putting you out there but just asking why? Feel free to ignore me if you must...
Edit: Sorry to answer your question like the post above said you can root and then lock it right back up if that is your preference
playya said:
Question - why? What do you want to root your phone for if not to use the wonderful tools of root. Why do you think fully rooting your phone will harm something. Locked or unlocked bootloader is not going to affect your phone. Rooted stock rom with recovery will not make it act funny.... Sorry not putting you out there but just asking why? Feel free to ignore me if you must...
Edit: Sorry to answer your question like the post above said you can root and then lock it right back up if that is your preference
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I have come from an HTC Desire, which I rooted and had a custom rom (Cyganonmod) on and was very happy with it.
I am still not sure of what I would gain by doing the same with my Nexus 4 ?
any advice is much appreciated.
Is this new Cyganonmod installer the best way to go?
gjjh25 said:
I have come from an HTC Desire, which I rooted and had a custom rom (Cyganonmod) on and was very happy with it.
I am still not sure of what I would gain by doing the same with my Nexus 4 ?
any advice is much appreciated.
Is this new Cyganonmod installer the best way to go?
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This phone is built for rooting and modding. You wont know what benefit you have until you either read up and see if the mods are ones you want or actually flash a rom. Sure try the CM installer but if you dont toolkits or just basic knowledge of android can get this phone roooted in minutes.
the CM rom on your HTC will give you the same benefits on your Nexus 4
playya said:
This phone is built for rooting and modding. You wont know what benefit you have until you either read up and see if the mods are ones you want or actually flash a rom. Sure try the CM installer but if you dont toolkits or just basic knowledge of android can get this phone roooted in minutes.
the CM rom on your HTC will give you the same benefits on your Nexus 4
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Thanks, what do you recommend for the easiest way to unlock and root then?
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Thanks, what do you recommend for the easiest way to unlock and root then?
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I used a toolkit but honestly you can unlock manually by just booting into bootloader mode. Go into development and try Wugs Toolkit.... Rooting the phone is easy and all methods are relatively the same.
I do not see anything wrong with giving CM a try as well
gjjh25 said:
Is it possible to just root my phone?
if so how do i do it?
All the posts I have seen go into unlocking and then rooting
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I recommend you to stick to your original plan, its your phone, do what you like, you don't need to flash custom roms if you don't want to. I am using stock kernel and stock KitKat right now and the performance is excellent.
Follow these instructions to unlock bootloader, install latest kitkat factory image, install custom TWRP recovery, and root. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010312
The links to fastboot package and driver required is in my signature.
Link to download factory image: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
Link for latest TWRP: TWRP recovery
Link for latest SuperSU package: SuperSU package
After you do all that, in bootloader menu, you can flash back the stock recovery (recovery.img), which is location in the "image-occam-******.zip" of the factory image. (fastboot flash recovery recovery.img)
Then lock your bootloader by "fastboot oem lock". You can also use BootUnlocker to lock and unlock your bootloader on the fly while in the phone, without losing your data, since everytime you do fastboot oem unlock, it will wipe the entire device.
By using stock rom, stock recovery, stock kernel and temporarily unroot (SuperSU) or hide root (SuperSU paid version), it allows you to receive future OTA updates from Google. If you want to modify your phones more while staying with stock, read up on Xposed Framework and its module Gravity Box, which is not yet compatible with Android 4.4 but will be eventually.
Just remember if you don't have custom recovery, once something goes wrong and your phone can't boot, its very hard to save the data inside. Once you have custom recovery like TWRP, you can make a backup of your stock image (which also backup your stock kernel) and try out other custom roms and easily go back to stock, then you can flash stock recovery again to receive OTA updates.
Thanks for advice everyone.
I rooted and unlocked with Wugfresh over the weekend. A lot easier than I thought it would be
Recently upgraded to S5. Have downgraded to KitKat NCG firmware / kernel, and successfully rooted. My main objective was to debloat.
I was originally planning on staying with the downgraded KitKat firmware...is there 1. A good stable custom recovery for install, 2. any reason to install a custom recovery, if I plan on sticking with KitKat, other than to make backups?
Moving from an HTC to Samsung, I am finding there are variances when one wants to start playing with the device, so I don't want to move too fast with the S5, as I don't want to end up bricking, or not having access, as it is needed daily.
Is Safestrap a good way to go?
Can anyone provide further 'recovery insight' pros and cons, and the best way to go about, should I decide to do so?
Currently, safestrap is the only recovery we have.
If you plan on installing roms then either safestrap or flash fire is the way to go.
I personally have both as I use safestrap incase I mess up and am stuck in bootloop.
zimgir124 said:
Currently, safestrap is the only recovery we have.
If you plan on installing roms then either safestrap or flash fire is the way to go.
I personally have both as I use safestrap incase I mess up and am stuck in bootloop.
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Thank you...is this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2793891 the best instructions? How do I know / investigate if I have encryption enabled? Is this what is found in Security, under Settings? Basically, the PW required when turning on device? I currently don't have a PW required for turning on, or entering device from a blank screen.
Other than that, pretty straight forward? Thanks
Hi all,
let me first start by thanking the good people of xda community for your kind help and contribution. It would not be possible for people like me with extremely limited rooting knowledge to even have the courage to attempt a root if it wasn't for the good people like you here.
I just got my Axon 7 and is trying to work up the courage to attempt a root following tenfar's instruction (I'm extremely scared of bricking my new phone) I also hope that I can continue to play Pokemon Go after I root it, but unfortunately with the latest update, it seems impossible until I discovered Magisk. My question may seem fairly simple but it is extremely confusing to me. In Magisk's instruction it says that in order to install Magisk, one must remove any kind of root and systemless Xposed. Since my phone is not rooted, I do not have to go through the step of removing root and xposed? However, it says that I have to download Magisk and flash it. My confusion rests on the concept on how I can flash Magisk if my phone is not rooted? I thought one can only flash a rom etc after the phone is rooted? So should I follow tenfar's root first and root my axon 7 then try to flash Magisk? or the other way around? Any advice /tips/precautions/high level guides regarding both rooting using the tenfar method and flashing Magisk is greatly appreciate! I may suck at rooting and etc, but what I can do is follow all instructions carefully. Thank you everyone, you are the best!
To flash something (a ROM or an app, like Magisk) you need to have a custom recovery installed (such as TWRP, you boot into the custom recovery to flash the .zip file that contains whatever you want to flash) which generally means having an unlocked boot-loader, neither of those has anything to do with root (other than that they make rooting the phone considerably easier) they don't require it and they don't do it by themselves.
@Nameless One is right, you need a custom recovery (TWRP) to be able to flash Magisk. There is a thread about this in the forums.
However I would advise you to wait until next week when a new update is expected and perhaps some changes to the bootloader unlock policy and hopefully stock ROMs, which will make it much easier to solve any problems.
If you insist on going through with this now, you should take backup images of various partitions so that you can restore your phone to stock to receive the OTA.
How does it work if you have uninstall any kind of root? I would think root would be a requirement.
KyJelly69 said:
How does it work if you have uninstall any kind of root? I would think root would be a requirement.
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It right on the top of their post
"This mod requires boot image modification, so unlocked bootloaders are required!"
What it does is implement it's own system-less root management module that will not be detected like other root methods. But will conflict with other root methods hence you have to be unrooted
Unlocked bootloader let's you flash custom recovery. That in turn let's you flash anything else including root modifications. In essence tenfar's boot image is modified to allow root. This will do something similar but you have to have the BL unlocked since patching boot image will change the signature.
iirc magisk alters the bootimage, so you need a unlocked Bootloader go get it to work.
And no, root is not a preq, you can use magisk to /aquire/ root though.
What u need:
- unlocked bootloader
- custom recovery
- a somewhat clean and not already modified system
Thank you all for the helpful replies, I greatly appreciate them.
I'm running out of the box ZTE Axon 7 A2017U with 6.0.1 Android. My goal is to install Magisk then eventually root so I can play Pokemon Go on the phone. Please advise on the next step? What are some of the safety precautions I should take? Thank you all very much!
I'm also planning on waiting until the next update [email protected]'s advice. Can anyone please explain to me the reasoning behind mh127's safety precautions? Thanks!
projectseahorse said:
Thank you all for the helpful replies, I greatly appreciate them.
I'm running out of the box ZTE Axon 7 A2017U with 6.0.1 Android. My goal is to install Magisk then eventually root so I can play Pokemon Go on the phone. Please advise on the next step? What are some of the safety precautions I should take? Thank you all very much!
I'm also planning on waiting until the next update [email protected]'s advice. Can anyone please explain to me the reasoning behind mh127's safety precautions? Thanks!
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If you have copies of the stock images you will probably be able to fix your phone if something goes wrong and you want to go back to stock.
Not having these copies is like jumping out of a plane without a parachute and hoping you'll hit a haystack, without the pitchfork in it...
There are never any guarantees, every phone is different and as you are playing with important partitions there is a chance, generally through users fault, to brick your device...
Hello all,
Do we know if the "stock rom" @mh127 was talking about is available? Am I safe to proceed with the the magisk/root installation? Thanks!
projectseahorse said:
Hello all,
Do we know if the "stock rom" @mh127 was talking about is available? Am I safe to proceed with the the magisk/root installation? Thanks!
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Well, the stock images have not been released for the B27 update, which would make it much easier to recover if something goes wrong. However, unofficial images are available (look around the forums). So at this point it is your call, just be careful.
Right now, I have a rooted lollipop build (PB1) AND an unlocked bootloader using the "On Device" method in this thread. I want to put in a custom recovery now (CWM or TWRP) and update back to 6.0.1 while keeping root of course but I'm not quite sure if and how to proceed from where I am now. What things will be compatible. What things will work.
EDIT: I should say, I don't have Safestrap installed as it doesn't seem necessary now with CWM/TWRP. Also, Safestrap seems really outdated since the original maker stopped developing it two years ago.
Nevermind. Just slapped TWRP on, made a backup, and then CyanogenMod.
just go ahead and flash any custom rom you want using twrp even g900f ones..
I tried some and they seems to work..
abdellahboughrom said:
just go ahead and flash any custom rom you want using twrp even g900f ones..
I tried some and they seems to work..
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Yeah, I'm feeling pretty awesome right now with this phone. It now does everything I want it to with style and then some.
Can I root my phone and keep the finger print sensor working? Don't care about the new rooms right now. Already searched I did not find anything helpful. Can I get root without flashing a rom
Calmplex4g said:
Can I root my phone and keep the finger print sensor working? Don't care about the new rooms right now. Already searched I did not find anything helpful. Can I get root without flashing a rom
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Yes, you can. Read here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...t-oneplus-6t-using-oneplus-6t-rooter-t3864238
Calmplex4g said:
Can I root my phone and keep the finger print sensor working? Don't care about the new rooms right now. Already searched I did not find anything helpful. Can I get root without flashing a rom
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Of course you can. Unlock the bootloader... Which will wipe all your phone including sdcard so back it up. Then install twrp. Then install magisk from twrp. Boot and you have a rooted stock rom. Read about installing twrp on OnePlus. It's a bit harder then on older phones. Backup your efs after boot.... Good luck.
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DaOldMan said:
Of course you can. Unlock the bootloader... Which will wipe all your phone including sdcard so back it up. Then install twrp. Then install magisk from twrp. Boot and you have a rooted stock rom. Read about installing twrp on OnePlus. It's a bit harder then on older phones. Backup your efs after boot.... Good luck.
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Thanks
Just make sure you use Magisk instead of SuperSU, because Magisk offers a very easy way of hiding the root from banking apps and some other apps that will stop functioning if they detect root in your device.
You don't have to install TWRP if you don't want to, you can just patch the boot image with magisk and then flash the patched image. Not recommending either way, just saying both are possible.There are instructions in the stock and beta threads as well as in other threads discussing rooting procedures and you'll want to peruse those before you start. When the time comes be sure you carefully read how to update when they drop a new image or you'll lose root. Easy enough to fix but it's easier still to do it right and save the extra hassle.