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On some sites it says its 1800/2600 some says 4G/LTE 1700/2100, 4G/LTE 1800, 4G/LTE 2600, 4G/LTE 800
Syn3rgetic said:
On some sites it says its 1800/2600 some says 4G/LTE 1700/2100, 4G/LTE 1800, 4G/LTE 2600, 4G/LTE 800
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that's the thing, different variants support different 4G frequency bands. Get the one that works with your network. Pay attention to region locking though.
sharl1987 said:
that's the thing, different variants support different 4G frequency bands. Get the one that works with your network. Pay attention to region locking though.
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Isn't the N9005 a variant? Or are you saying there are variants of variants?
Syn3rgetic said:
Isn't the N9005 a variant? Or are you saying there are variants of variants?
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If you go to negrieelectronics.com, you will see that they have different variants for the N9005, there's the t-mobile unlocked version, the AT&T unlocked version, and the factory unlocked version. Each one of them supports different LTE bands. Get the one suited for your network. However, keep in mind the regional locking restrictions.
There are a few T-Mobile versions of stock firmware floating around including this one: http://www.samsungis.com/Firmwares/SM-N900T.html
Anyone dare to flash the modem and see what happens?
i have the N9005 in Bahrain, and the carriers here support 1800 frequency only..
So looks like it would be a procedure similar to the following that is done for a Note 2.
We need someone to use the QPST software to save a backup in the format of a QCN file. Downloading and restoring the QCN file looks to be a straight forward process using the QPST software.
The problem is the QCN needs to be modified with a dummy IMIE.
- We need a QCN file from an AT&T or Verizon Note 3
- We need someone to modify it with a dummy IMEI
http://galaxynote2root.com/galaxy-n...3g4g-aws-bands-on-att-galaxy-note-2-sgh-i317/
The Samsung Galaxy Note 3 model N9005 is the international LTE/4G model and mounts the Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 processor which is compatible (in theory) with these frequencies:
MHz: 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600 (http://www.qualcomm.com/snapdragon/processors/800) and you can download the full specifications here: http://www.qualcomm.com/media/documents/qualcomm-snapdragon-800-product-brief
The problem is that the N9005 comes in a number of different MPN (regional lock) versions. Each MPN has its own radio/modem setup and each modem has its own (up to theoretical maximum of 6) LTE/4G bands/frequencies setup.
Therefore to answer the question: " What LTE bands does the N9005 support?" you have to first find out which MPN model you are talking about.
I found out the hard way that a "factory unlocked, region free" Samsung Galaxy Note 3 32GB N9005 phone, listed under www.samsung.com to be compatible with bands 1, 3 , 8 and 20 is not, in fact, capable of working on those frequencies/bands because I bought a factory unlocked model of the wrong MPN version. There is room for legal action here but that's another matter for a different topic.
Just FYI here are a few MPN versions that you must consider: ZKEXSI, ZKEBTU, ZWEBTU, ZIEITV, ZKEITV, ZWEITV, ZKEPHE, ZKEDBT, ZWEPHN, ZKEPHN, ZKATGY... beware because there are more.
ascanio1 said:
The Samsung Galaxy Note 3 model N9005 is the international LTE/4G model and mounts the Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 processor which is compatible (in theory) with these frequencies:
MHz: 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600 (http://www.qualcomm.com/snapdragon/processors/800) and you can download the full specifications here: http://www.qualcomm.com/media/documents/qualcomm-snapdragon-800-product-brief
The problem is that the N9005 comes in a number of different MPN (regional lock) versions. Each MPN has its own radio/modem setup and each modem has its own (up to theoretical maximum of 6) LTE/4G bands/frequencies setup.
Therefore to answer the question: " What LTE bands does the N9005 support?" you have to first find out which MPN model you are talking about.
I found out the hard way that a "factory unlocked, region free" Samsung Galaxy Note 3 32GB N9005 phone, listed under www.samsung.com to be compatible with bands 1, 3 , 8 and 20 is not, in fact, capable of working on those frequencies/bands because I bought a factory unlocked model of the wrong MPN version. There is room for legal action here but that's another matter for a different topic.
Just FYI here are a few MPN versions that you must consider: ZKEXSI, ZKEBTU, ZWEBTU, ZIEITV, ZKEITV, ZWEITV, ZKEPHE, ZKEDBT, ZWEPHN, ZKEPHN, ZKATGY... beware because there are more.
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JESUS I feel smarter already after reading that! Now would you happen to know what MPN version of the N9005 that supports At&t or that information MIA?
PatienceWithin said:
JESUS I feel smarter already after reading that! Now would you happen to know what MPN version of the N9005 that supports At&t or that information MIA?
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I am not sure if there is a SM-N9005 which will work on AT&T. I think that there is a specific model called SM-N900T or something like that. And I think that that model only has one MPN firmware - it's own AT&T firmware. But I'm not sure at all about this.
I don't know a lot about AT&T but there is a specific thread here on XDA about that phone and carrier.
If AT&T uses one of the frequencies listed in the link to Qualcomm which I posted, then, yes, you can use the SM-N9005 on AT&T. But... to do that you will need to:
1. Find out which frequencies AT&T uses (the band numbers and not the MHz frequencies)
2. Find out from my link if those bands are native in the Qualcomm chip.
3a. Find which MPN has the right modem.
4a. Flash that MPN with a programme called Odin (you will need specific, detailed instructions to do this, which you can find online)
5. Find the correct AT&T APN (data access points)
6. Set up that APN in your phone (you will need specific, detailed instructions to do this, which you can find online)
OR
3b. Find the correct CSC portion of the MPN firmware (the CSC is that part of the MPN which carries inside the modem specifications - Carrier Specific Code).
4b. Flash only the CSC with Odin
5. & 6. should not be necessary
OR
3c. Find the correct modem and radio.
4c. Flash that modem/radio in the CSC portion of the MPN firmware with Odin
5. & 6. Will be necessary
OR
3d. Find the factory "service mode" number. This is a simple number prefixed and postfix by #* which you simply type on your keyboard, as if it were a phone number.
4d. Once you access service mode, enable the correct modem (hoping that it's resident, but it should be if point 2 was a YES).
5. & 6. Will be necessary
I need bands 1, 2, 8 and 20 for my carries (I live in 2 countries at the same time).
I tried to find the "service mode" code but couldn't find it.
I tried to find the right radio/modem which operates those bands but couldn't find it.
I tried to find the right CSC that carries those bands but couldn't find it.
I tried to find the correct MPN that carries those bands but couldn't find it.
So now I'm flashing different MPN (firmware versions) hoping that one will, sooner or later, contain those bands.
If you can find the codes to access service mode or which modem or CSC or MPN carry your AT&T bands and those bands are supported by the Qualcomm chip, then it's a piece of cake!
You only need one of those methods as the MPN contains the CSC which, in turn, contains the modem which, in turn, can enable/disable bands.
All you need, in theory, is to enable the correct bands if the Qualcomm chip hardware supports them.
Inviato dal mio SM-N9005 utilizzando Tapatalk
Service mode is *#0011#
IOU-1 said:
Service mode is *#0011#
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Thanks. You gave it to me in another thread!
Now I need to find out how to enable the modem to lock onto my required bands... any idea?
Sent from my SM-N9005 with Tapatalk
No idea, since it automatically connects didnt care to look around. If you find one let me know.
Just to add for info, the N9005 International version supports LTE bands:
800 = channel 20
850 = channel 5
900 = channel 8
1800 = channel 3
2100 = channel 1
2600 = channel 7
while ATT USA uses:
700 = channel 17 (future)
1700 = channel 4
1900 = channel 2
and Tmobile USA uses:
1700 = channel 4
xdm9mm said:
Just to add for info, the N9005 International version supports LTE bands:
800 = channel 20
850 = channel 5
900 = channel 8
1800 = channel 3
2100 = channel 1
2600 = channel 7
while ATT USA uses:
700 = channel 17 (future)
1700 = channel 4
1900 = channel 2
and Tmobile USA uses:
1700 = channel 4
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So has anyone found a way to swap channels/frequencies on intl model? I moved to USA, I don't want to throw out my Europe n9005 and buy a new one here because of this international band war.. :/ all I can run is H+, which is kinda slow, not always available, then it falls back to regular H which doesn't give any data at all. impossible to use my n9005 in usa
valtersboze said:
So has anyone found a way to swap channels/frequencies on intl model? I moved to USA, I don't want to throw out my Europe n9005 and buy a new one here because of this international band war.. :/ all I can run is H+, which is kinda slow, not always available, then it falls back to regular H which doesn't give any data at all. impossible to use my n9005 in usa
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Same here with my S4, I only get H+. In UK, you buy a phone from any provider, get it unlocked, and use other sim card from other networks, and it works with all the bands. In US, the network providers want to monopolize the market that is why the bands are all mixed up. The only solution I can think of now is to buy Sony phones because I have read they have "REAL" international/worldwide LTE bands.
Hello, I want to ask if there is a way to add the band 38 LTE TD 2600 to my N910C who doen not have it?
Thanks!
I have the same problem !!!
No....the bands are a part of the antenna....theirs no way to add more bands
speedyjay said:
No....the bands are a part of the antenna....theirs no way to add more bands
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The antenna has to match the exact frequency and modulation or just the frequency?
Because, N910C, N910F both support LTE band 7, on frequency 2600,
FDD (Frequency-Division Duplex).
LTE band 38 is also on frequency 2600 but uses TDD (Time-Division Duplex)
Is the modulation (FDD, TDD) handled by the antenna or by the modem?
The modem is, as far I can tell, the same for N910F and N910G (both same Qualcomm); unlike the Exynos in N910C.
Still no one came with a solution for this? I read that Qualcomm phones can make this change (S5)
i need the band 4(aws) but the XT1642 just have LTE bands 01/05/07/08/19/20/28
have any way to change or chose the bands? or its hardware
Thanks
I am also wondering about this. Someone please give it a productive thought.
Any ideas on this? I've read about this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...ad-progress-please-leave-im-updating-t2871269 and it should work with the Qualcomm Proccessor of the Moto G4 plus, but I don't know the code to activate the Diag.
Hardyblack said:
Any ideas on this? I've read about this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...ad-progress-please-leave-im-updating-t2871269 and it should work with the Qualcomm Proccessor of the Moto G4 plus, but I don't know the code to activate the Diag.
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There are limitations because of the hardware bits (RF amps) that are missing. For example if the radio works on LTE band 17 (DL 740Mhz, UL 710MHz), then it might be tricked to work in LTE band 12 (DL 737.5MHz, UL 707.5MHz), they are "close enough" to work.
Also I had a Alcatel phone that was sold by T-Mobile with one of the existing bands (LTE 5) de-activated because it was not used by T-Mobile. After unlocking the phone (legally) it would still work poorly on AT&T network - and then I was able to activate that band by using the above software - because the needed RF amps where already present inside.
LTE band 4 AWS is a special animal, the DL and UL frequencies are VERY far apart. Not matching anything else, so even if we can program the radio to work in those bands, the output RF amps will just not be able to perform.
List of frequencies: http://niviuk.free.fr/lte_band.php
SoNic67 said:
There are limitations because of the hardware bits (RF amps) that are missing. For example if the radio works on LTE band 17 (DL 740Mhz, UL 710MHz), then it might be tricked to work in LTE band 12 (DL 737.5MHz, UL 707.5MHz), they are "close enough" to work.
Also I had a Alcatel phone that was sold by T-Mobile with one of the existing bands (LTE 5) de-activated because it was not used by T-Mobile. After unlocking the phone (legally) it would still work poorly on AT&T network - and then I was able to activate that band by using the above software - because the needed RF amps where already present inside.
LTE band 4 AWS is a special animal, the DL and UL frequencies are VERY far apart. Not matching anything else, so even if we can program the radio to work in those bands, the output RF amps will just not be able to perform.
List of frequencies:
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I'd love to say that I understood you but I'm very ignorant about bands and frequencies.
I read that the QC SnapDragon 617 has a X8 LTE Modem (can't link because I'm new, but it's on the QC webpage) which has the Snapdragon Global All Mode, and it's supposed to support band 4 AWS. I don't know if that helps with the output RF amps, or I'm totally doomed.
Yes the X8 Modem supports the bands. But it needs something else to work. Those bits are soldered on the US version and not on the EU one. Similar, on the EU one there is band 20 that is not present on the US hardware.
Is there any way to switch the lte bands. Normally I would dial #*#*4636*#*# but the phone information is saying its not available on this device. Both my nexus 6p and my old note 7 got good signal but this phone is horrible as far as signal strength goes.
McQueefus said:
Is there any way to switch the lte bands. Normally I would dial #*#*4636*#*# but the phone information is saying its not available on this device. Both my nexus 6p and my old note 7 got good signal but this phone is horrible as far as signal strength goes.
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this is my question as well. AT&T page for V20 lists LTE bands and band 17 is NOT among them. band 17 is supposedly the main ATT LTE band, which basically means you will only be able to get LTE on V20 on ATT on the backup LTE bands where they are available ...
i'm looking for confirmation that this is true, because who knows - maybe some idiot just forgot to type in number 17 on that info page ...
Notes, iPhones and Pixel all have band 17 ...
obviously i won't be getting iPhone and i can't get the Note. i didn't really want to get the Pixel because i feel like it's overpriced ...
but if what you're saying about V20 getting bad signal is true then Pixel may be the only choice ...
i started having my suspicions about V20 when i heard it won't be coming out in UK, which i thought was very odd ... but apparently one difference between Snapdragon 821 in Pixel and 820 in V20 is that 821 has more LTE bands, which would make it better both for ATT and better as a global phone for travel ...
again, i'm looking for confirmation that this is true.
HELP ???
McQueefus said:
Is there any way to switch the lte bands. Normally I would dial #*#*4636*#*# but the phone information is saying its not available on this device. Both my nexus 6p and my old note 7 got good signal but this phone is horrible as far as signal strength goes.
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If you're talking about being able to choose specific LTE bands, I do that on my Tmobile handset using this dial code (use at your own risk)
*#546368#*918# - for AT&T you need to use 910 or 915 depending on your model # (not sure why AT&T has 2 different model #'s)
So it would be
*#546368#*910# or *#546368#*915#
Then
Go to Field Test
Modem Settings
LTE Band Selection
Choose band
To revert back to auto scanning
Go to Field Test
Modem Settings
Network Mode
Automatic
nest75068 said:
Go to Field Test
Modem Settings
LTE Band Selection
Choose band
To revert back to auto scanning
Go to Field Test
Modem Settings
Network Mode
Automatic
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The 910 doesn't have those options under modem settings.
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this is my question as well. AT&T page for V20 lists LTE bands and band 17 is NOT among them. band 17 is supposedly the main ATT LTE band, which basically means you will only be able to get LTE on V20 on ATT on the backup LTE bands where they are available ...
i'm looking for confirmation that this is true, because who knows - maybe some idiot just forgot to type in number 17 on that info page ...
Notes, iPhones and Pixel all have band 17 ...
obviously i won't be getting iPhone and i can't get the Note. i didn't really want to get the Pixel because i feel like it's overpriced ...
but if what you're saying about V20 getting bad signal is true then Pixel may be the only choice ...
i started having my suspicions about V20 when i heard it won't be coming out in UK, which i thought was very odd ... but apparently one difference between Snapdragon 821 in Pixel and 820 in V20 is that 821 has more LTE bands, which would make it better both for ATT and better as a global phone for travel ...
again, i'm looking for confirmation that this is true.
HELP ???
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THAT IS NOT THE DIFFERENCE. Modem and CPU part of the SOC are totally different things. The pixel is and unlocked and more likely to support more bands as unlocked phones tend to be more globally friendly. Chances are that certain bands are on there but T-Mobile has it disabled or LG. T-Mobile is usually more bands friendly but not always, as the HTC M8 was seriously gimped in the LTE bands, didn't even support T-Mobile's band 12. I would look at the unlocked version of the V20 to decipher more info.
And you're welcome for the undeserved thanks. Your comment made no sense. Qualcomm modems for certain phones are usually about 2-5 different sets depending on markets a phone will serve. It is usually 2 or 3 when the phone is released worldwide basically and every carrier and market will have certain bands disabled for whatever reason. It also rare for developers to enable them as it takes specialized hardware or knowledge of the software. Another factor is if the antenna for certain bands are even in the phone. No antenna for a band then no firmware will ever be able to enable it, much less some hijinks tweaking.
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THAT IS NOT THE DIFFERENCE. Modem and CPU part of the SOC are totally different things. The pixel is and unlocked and more likely to support more bands as unlocked phones tend to be more globally friendly. Chances are that certain bands are on there but T-Mobile has it disabled or LG. T-Mobile is usually more bands friendly but not always, as the HTC M8 was seriously gimped in the LTE bands, didn't even support T-Mobile's band 12. I would look at the unlocked version of the V20 to decipher more info.
And you're welcome for the undeserved thanks. Your comment made no sense. Qualcomm modems for certain phones are usually about 2-5 different sets depending on markets a phone will serve. It is usually 2 or 3 when the phone is released worldwide basically and every carrier and market will have certain bands disabled for whatever reason. It also rare for developers to enable them as it takes specialized hardware or knowledge of the software. Another factor is if the antenna for certain bands are even in the phone. No antenna for a band then no firmware will ever be able to enable it, much less some hijinks tweaking.
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OK i followed your advice and looked up Unlocked V20. i'm not allowed to post links yet but from bhphotovideo page the unlocked US version has LTE bands: 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13, 17, 20, 25 which includes the band 17 ...
while the ATT page lists LTE bands: 1, 2 ,3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 20, 29, and 30 which does NOT include band 17 ...
now the question is, assuming that information is correct, why on earth would ATT chose the version of a phone that doesn't have the main ATT band ?
is there any way to find out whether the above information is accurate ?
as an ATT subscriber, would there be any advantage / disadvantage for getting unlocked phone from B&H versus ATT branded phone from ATT ?
should i try to contact some sort of ATT technical support to try and get an answer ?
EDIT:
according to article titled "LG V20 Model Numbers (F800, H910, H918, H990 DS Dual, H990N Dual, H990T, LS997, US996, VS995) Differences" from techwalls dot com the ATT version has bands: 1,2,3,4,5,7,12,17,20,30 which again has the band 17. it has same number of bands but compared to information on ATT page it subtracts band 29 and adds band 17 ...
frankly, this makes far more sense than ATT page info, but for 800 bucks i need to know for sure ...
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according to frequencycheck website the ATT version of V20 ( H910 / H915 ) supports all ( 8 out of 8 ) bands used by ATT, all 4 LTE bands as well as both GSM and both UMTS bands used by ATT.
according to LG's own website H910 has: 2/4/5/12/29/30, Roaming 1/3/7/20, and CA ... which is the same was what ATT lists except for "CA" ...
Band 12 replaces band 17
The way I understand it, band 12 and band 17 covers the same frequency range. At&t has achieved (they were forced by FCC) interoperability between band 12 and 17 now. So band 17 is essentially obsolete and only useful if you are on the at&t network. If you have band 12 capability on your phone, you can use any 700mhz at&t tower that formerly may have only supported band 17. Now all those towers support both bands. And you can use smaller carrier towers too if you have band 12 capability.
Hi everyone! I hope this was not discussed before but, really I'm trying to identify my phone and i couldn't.
Ok I bought it in Banggood and when I did the order i chose YD201 version for have LTE in my country (Spain) but my surprise is when i received the phone in the box described like YD206. I start the phone and inside of the rom , when i was woing to settings i found is YD201, so how to know it? Someone happened the same?
Thanks in advance.
I think that there is a big confusion with Yotaphone 2 phones.
There were some versions that used Snapdragon 800 chip, that is able to use band 20 (800MHz).
But all the latest use Snapdragon 801, which seems is not able to use band 20. I don't know if it is just lacking the antenna or chip has no support.
You can look up numerous band unlocking tutorials and you'll discover none of them are able to unlock band 20 800MHz.
You can still get LTE on other frequencies. LTE runs on 800 MHz, 900 MHz, 1800 MHz and 2600 MHz, depends on your operator.
I'd be happy if someone prooved me wrong.
LTE unlocking tutorial:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56577252&postcount=455