http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=238
this is close to the case I want. Well, I dont want a full case, just something to clip over the front so I can toss it in my pocket and not worry too much.. I'm looking for one that doesnt have the belt clip, has a window over the screen and would allow me to talk and have access to the buttons with the case still on. Then I could just pop it off if i want to use the touch screen of keyboard. Anybody see anything like that?
I would be worried that the phone would pop out while walking and id lose it.
I agree, thats why I don't want a belt clip. Just something that covers the front.
The main need for the lock screen is in the following situation:
Phone is in your pocket (or bag), a hard key is accidentally pressed, the device wakes up. This by itself is not a problem, since without anything else happening the device will go back to sleep, but, if another hard key is pressed while the device is active (screen press can not happen while in pocket, since it's capacitive), the device can start do annoying things.
Now, if the proximity sensor can be designed to switch on when device wakes up, and put it back to sleep (immediately) if device is in pocket/bag, this will kill the need for a lock screen. This is totally possible and just awaits the programmer who wants to make our lives easier...
hm. try pocketShield?
it locks and unlocks your device by use of the light sensor.
Interesting. I will use it for now.
The problem with using a light sensor is that if you use the phone in the dark it won't unlock. Proximity sensor won't have this problem hence it's a better sensor for the task.
Apparently this will happen even without the help of the XDA community...
I've just sent the following email to PocketShield:
Hi,
I would like to know if you are working to utilize the HD2's proximity sensor for unlock (like you did for Omnia). If so, when should we expect a version with this feature ?
Thank you very much.
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This is their answer:
That’s the idea, but can’t confirm that yet because we are not sure if hooking into the proximity sensor will be possible. Hope yes, as in Omnia2. Just received our new HD2 today and will start to dive into it next week.
Best Regards,
Jim
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so has anyone tested this for the hd2?
http://www.pocketshield.net/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpxY9t34TTI
Noam23 said:
The problem with using a light sensor is that if you use the phone in the dark it won't unlock. Proximity sensor won't have this problem hence it's a better sensor for the task.
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Use TouchLockPro. It has both light and proximity sensor and it is free.
kweiss10 said:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpxY9t34TTI
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Looks like the guy from the answering machine has found a new job
won't this increase battery drain dramaticly? i think it will becouse it will be constantly looking for light and using that proximity sensor..
Noam23 said:
The main need for the lock screen is in the following situation:
Phone is in your pocket (or bag), a hard key is accidentally pressed, the device wakes up. This by itself is not a problem, since without anything else happening the device will go back to sleep, but, if another hard key is pressed while the device is active (screen press can not happen while in pocket, since it's capacitive), the device can start do annoying things.
Now, if the proximity sensor can be designed to switch on when device wakes up, and put it back to sleep (immediately) if device is in pocket/bag, this will kill the need for a lock screen. This is totally possible and just awaits the programmer who wants to make our lives easier...
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You are wrong about one important detail though. The screen is very sensitive and can easily be pressed through the lining of your pocket, and even through fairly thick fabric like jeans.
it's a capacative screen...
capacative scree = no stylus/fingernail/penny/spoon
it wont be acvitating throught screen contact.
impossible. (unless you have rrrrrealy thin pants, and the current can pass throught them)
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it's a capacative screen...
capacative scree = no stylus/fingernail/penny/spoon
it wont be acvitating throught screen contact.
impossible. (unless you have rrrrrealy thin pants, and the current can pass throught them)
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hi, the pants didnt have to be that thin. i think the hd2 screens also vary a lot, in being more or less sensitive. another thing is that people are deifferent when it cames to electric fields. also sweating can affect the display. i startet programs and other touchscreen things already, when the device was in my pocket.
regards mad
jamieeeee said:
won't this increase battery drain dramaticly? i think it will becouse it will be constantly looking for light and using that proximity sensor..
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In the case of Pocketshield, it won't. Because all sensors only turn on during a short period of time (seconds). Once you unlock or turn off, sensors go to sleep. This is one of the reasons why "auto lock" is not possible, because that will indeed involve a permanent monitoring on the sensors.
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it's a capacative screen...
capacative scree = no stylus/fingernail/penny/spoon
it wont be acvitating throught screen contact.
impossible. (unless you have rrrrrealy thin pants, and the current can pass throught them)
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You don't know what you're talking about. I didn't say it was sensitive to pressure, but rather that direct contact between skin and the screen is not necessary. Holding my finger on one side of the fabric, and the other side of the fabric touching the screen, this is registered by the screen as a touch EVERY TIME. There are maybe materials that completely isolates the screen, for other materials it probably depends on how thick they are. For me it is certainly possible to influence the screen even through pretty thick cotton fabric (maybe other types of fabric too, I wear mostly cotton), leather, and even paper. Just to test it, I just did a slide to unlock my HD2 through a pile of papers (granted it wasn't a very thick pile, only six sheets of paper thick), and through my leather shoes (this was a little trickier, I had to to make sure that my foot made good contact with the leather at the point where I was sliding my phone across the shoe). i can interact with the screen through normal denim jeans fabric without any problem, and the pocket lining of trousers are usually quite thin, so accidental interaction with the screen seems almost unavoidable if the screen is unlocked in the pocket.
I have actually had some problems a couple of times when the slide to unlock had been deactivated on my HD2. I once took my phone out of my pocket and it was at the confirmation screen for factory reset, and I have actually had the phone hard reset on me once which I suspect may have been caused by the slide to unlock being deactivated. I would never knowingly put an unlocked phone in my pocket, and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone, but you're welcome to do as you please.
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You don't know what you're talking about. I didn't say it was sensitive to pressure, but rather that direct contact between skin and the screen is not necessary. Holding my finger on one side of the fabric, and the other side of the fabric touching the screen, this is registered by the screen as a touch EVERY TIME. There are maybe materials that completely isolates the screen, for other materials it probably depends on how thick they are. For me it is certainly possible to influence the screen even through pretty thick cotton fabric (maybe other types of fabric too, I wear mostly cotton), leather, and even paper. Just to test it, I just did a slide to unlock my HD2 through a pile of papers (granted it wasn't a very thick pile, only six sheets of paper thick), and through my leather shoes (this was a little trickier, I had to to make sure that my foot made good contact with the leather at the point where I was sliding my phone across the shoe). i can interact with the screen through normal denim jeans fabric without any problem, and the pocket lining of trousers are usually quite thin, so accidental interaction with the screen seems almost unavoidable if the screen is unlocked in the pocket.
I have actually had some problems a couple of times when the slide to unlock had been deactivated on my HD2. I once took my phone out of my pocket and it was at the confirmation screen for factory reset, and I have actually had the phone hard reset on me once which I suspect may have been caused by the slide to unlock being deactivated. I would never knowingly put an unlocked phone in my pocket, and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone, but you're welcome to do as you please.
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oh, i didn't know it was that sensitive, then, i can really see a need for an apps like this.
but, what about just a normal case? slip it in and out? i mean, i think that COULD solve your problem in a 'no thrills' sorta way... but it wouldnt be as exciting now would it?
madbird said:
hi, the pants didnt have to be that thin. i think the hd2 screens also vary a lot, in being more or less sensitive. another thing is that people are deifferent when it cames to electric fields. also sweating can affect the display. i startet programs and other touchscreen things already, when the device was in my pocket.
regards mad
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this of course is also true.
taking this into account, i would suggest everybody ground themselves. lol, no... just kidding. i don't even think that would help.
Is anyone else having problems with the fingerprint scanner? I'm trying to set it up to accept my print but it won't scan it.
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Is anyone else having problems with the fingerprint scanner? I'm trying to set it up to accept my print but it won't scan it.
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No problems at all. Set up quickly and easy.
swipe slowly. good swipes take at least a full second it seems. mine set up just fine and works for unlocking the phone.
Mine was shockingly easy to set up.
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swipe slowly. good swipes take at least a full second it seems. mine set up just fine and works for unlocking the phone.
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Thanks! That's all it took...
You don't really need to exagerate the swipe, but the 1 second rule is not a bad one to follow.
Make sure that the way you swipe to enroll is roughly the same as the way you swipe to authenticate. Holding the phone in the same way helps a lot.
Swipe from the base of your finger pad, to the tip of your finger.
Always use a pulling motion. Do not push your finger across the sensor.
You can actually unlock the device whether you pull toward the bottom of the phone from the top, or flip the phone around and pull the other way during the swipe. This can be very useful when the phone is in a dock.
If your finger crosses the sensor at a strong angle, you may not be able to authenticate or enroll. Remember that the finger should be aligned as indicated in the animation.
Enjoy! And remember, this is serious security. It's way beyond the pattern lock or a pin. And yet, it's easier to use than either. How often can you add security and make something easier to use at the same time?
Is there some way to make the unlock swipe more sensitive? Or a shorter swipe required?
Sometimes it takes me 4 or 5 swipes to get it to unlock, it's getting a tad annoying. No other issues with the screen, it just seems to need far too long of a swipe to allow the unlock.
I don't use fingerprint / pin / face unlock.
ummduh said:
Is there some way to make the unlock swipe more sensitive? Or a shorter swipe required?
Sometimes it takes me 4 or 5 swipes to get it to unlock, it's getting a tad annoying. No other issues with the screen, it just seems to need far too long of a swipe to allow the unlock.
I don't use fingerprint / pin / face unlock.
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I don't believe there is, but why wouldn't you use any of the above ? They're all ironically extremely fast, the fingerprint unlock is probably the quickest out of any phone in the world. The face is also rapid.
You could maybe install another lock screen but it would probably be quite similar.
There is more than likely also a setting in the ROM which altered the length of swipe, not in settings but an actual value within a file.
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I don't believe there is, but why wouldn't you use any of the above ? They're all ironically extremely fast, the fingerprint unlock is probably the quickest out of any phone in the world. The face is also rapid.
You could maybe install another lock screen but it would probably be quite similar.
There is more than likely also a setting in the ROM which altered the length of swipe, not in settings but an actual value within a file.
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My finger tips/prints get pretty tore up at work and causes finger print readers to be all but useless.
Not a fan of face unlock, too many situations that it would be inconvenient. I suppose I could maybe try a simple pattern unlock instead, I tend to open my phone is awkward situations sometimes and want it to be easy to get into. I have no security concerns.
ummduh said:
My finger tips/prints get pretty tore up at work and causes finger print readers to be all but useless.
Not a fan of face unlock, too many situations that it would be inconvenient. I suppose I could maybe try a simple pattern unlock instead, I tend to open my phone is awkward situations sometimes and want it to be easy to get into. I have no security concerns.
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Have you actually tried the face unlock? I wasn't completely for it, but it's very quick and you barely have to look at the screen, it's also surprisingly accurate.
Did you know you can register several fingertips? So unless your whole hand gets messed up? I used to do ground work and roofing, bricklaying so I know what you mean. Should be ok tbh.
ummduh said:
Is there some way to make the unlock swipe more sensitive? Or a shorter swipe required?
Sometimes it takes me 4 or 5 swipes to get it to unlock, it's getting a tad annoying. No other issues with the screen, it just seems to need far too long of a swipe to allow the unlock.
I don't use fingerprint / pin / face unlock.
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I have the same problem, and it's not only unlocking the screen.
Sometimes I try to swipe down notification 4-5 times before it works.
On Lineage/Resurrection rom it's working like any other phone.
There is one more thing, this bug is inconsistent, sometimes unlocking is working like it should and slightest swipe unlocks the phone.