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Hi,
I need auto update functionality for my application. I.e., the new exe/dll shall be downloaded by GPRS and existing program files shall be replaced. Now I wonder, how this could be done in an easy way.
The problem is, that the application is continuously running and updates shall be done more or less "on the fly". Currently, the application is automatically started on boot through registry settings in HKLM/init
So my idea was the following: Creating a "starter programme" for the application: When the device (HTC ARTEMIS) is booted, the starter programme is first launched (through HKLM/init), looks into a pre-defined directory if there are any files. If there are, these files are copied into the directory of the application. Afterwards, the starter programme launches the main application. Do you think that could work? Or are there any better ways (maybe even supported by the OS) to perform SW-updates?
Günther
I have auto update functionality in my commercial application.
1) When data is replicated to server, main appliation also check availability of new version. If new version is available a and upgrade is mandatory, application launch new process - updater.exe.
2) Updater waiting to main application correct exit (saving data on dirty forms etc.)
3) After main application exit updater download new version descriptor (list of files with targer location, install scripts (dll with well known special interface which can be used for many special tasks - create shortcuts, delete file, modify registry, install new certificate). Updater downloads all files, process install scripts and then launch main application again. New install CAB file is usually stored to extended ROM (autoinstall after HARD Reset).
As a server component is used web service with some methods (GetDescriptor, DownloadFile).
ma_gu said:
Hi,
I need auto update functionality for my application. I.e., the new exe/dll shall be downloaded by GPRS and existing program files shall be replaced. Now I wonder, how this could be done in an easy way.
The problem is, that the application is continuously running and updates shall be done more or less "on the fly". Currently, the application is automatically started on boot through registry settings in HKLM/init
So my idea was the following: Creating a "starter programme" for the application: When the device (HTC ARTEMIS) is booted, the starter programme is first launched (through HKLM/init), looks into a pre-defined directory if there are any files. If there are, these files are copied into the directory of the application. Afterwards, the starter programme launches the main application. Do you think that could work? Or are there any better ways (maybe even supported by the OS) to perform SW-updates?
Günther
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Seems to be a good idea. This way, you can update the application while it's running and changes become active when the device is rebooted or the application is exited and started again. It's just excellent.
My needings were more simple, so the update feature I designed works as following:
1. The program is divided into a launcher, an updater library and the true application.
2. When the program is started, the launcher copy the update library call such a copy (just call it updlibcpy).
3. updlibcpy uses http to check if an update is available. The check is performed by downloading an "update manifest" containing the MD5 hash of each file of the updated application and checking it against the MD5 hashes of the current program files.
4. If one or more files need to be updated, updlibcpy does the task. Since only updated files are downloaded, no bandwidth is wasted. The only file that cannot be updated is the launcher, but it is so simple that it should never need an update.
5. When updlibcpy has ended, the control is passed back to the launcher, which invokes the true application executable.
The main difficulty was handling the high packet loss that the HTC devices I used has shown. This caused frequent application hang-ups during start-up, unless the GPRS connection was terminated and started again. Once I solved this problem by giving a timeout to the update (using threads), all worked perfectly.
The only improvement I'm thinking about is some sort of "transactionality" of the update, so that if one file updates correctly while another doesn't, the succesfully updated files roll back to the not updated version.
2/3/09 Update
I have updated the pocket freeware program with the help & permission of the Freewarepocketpc.net site.
I am looking for 1) feedback & suggestions, 2) testers, 3) B4PPC developers to help out - I want this to be a program that is useful and maybe even be something that could turn into an "App Store" someday (limited to what freewarepocketpc.net, of course)
[Description]
I've started another project over at Basic4PPC - this is called "Pocket Freeware" The goal was to create a client that would let you scroll through the software titles at Freewarepocketpc.net and install them directly onto your PDA.
Project url: http://www.basic4ppc.com/forum/open-source-projects/3487-freewarepocketpc-net-client.html
Released under the GNU General Public License
Current version: D.13 (developer's release)
Install instructions: unzip & copy to PDA. Program will create any directories and files that it needs. (this is a developer's build. future public releases will have a cab)
Attached: PC and Pocket versions (zip)
Features
1. View applications by New, or by category (edit categories.txt file to customize what categories you want)
2. View application detail - if app was installed by "Pocket Freeware" it will have checkmark and show both installed date and latest available date.
3. Download & install
4. Pocket PC and PC versions
Future or still in development
1. View list of what has been installed from freewarepocketpc.net with this app (and check for updates!)
2. Landscape mode (not implemented due to my laziness and focus on features)
3. View listings on freewarepocketpc.net's shareware site
4. More robust downloading (working with site owner)
5. Save settings (currently hard coded, some you can change during run-time)
6. Clean-up details page (artistic, I am not)
7. Your feature here?
Instructions & hints
1. Checking an unchecked box in the details page will download and install the app
2. Clicking on the image in the details page will enlarge the image. Click on image again to minimize.
3. Little "X" in right hand corner of details page will close the details & return to listing
4. Double click (or press enter on dpad) to select application to view details. I may add the detail launch on the main page image in a future release
Sounds like a great idea.
Hey, I was trying to download this program. What has happened to it digitaldon37?
knownboyofno said:
Hey, I was trying to download this program. What has happened to it digitaldon37?
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The owner of the PocketFreeware site had some concerns with it, so I decided not to continue it. However I have been trading e-mails with them so something may come out of it.
I have a screen shot posted on my wiki: campusbbs.freehostia.com
Yea, I saw that... too bad cuz I flash from time to time and don't have a back of a file. Anyway thanks for the info.
New Developer's Release .12 - complete rewrite
2/3/09 Update
I have updated the pocket freeware program with the help & permission of the Freewarepocketpc.net site.
I am looking for 1) feedback & suggestions, 2) testers, 3) B4PPC developers to help out - I want this to be a program that is useful and maybe even be something that could turn into an "App Store" someday (limited to what freewarepocketpc.net, of course)
See main post for details.
The PC version works ok; the ppc one, instead, not: the upper part (where in pc there is the app list) is blank, and i can only see the description of the first item (as now PockeTwit) and its image. Nothing else. The lower part (WVGA-VGA) is also blank.
Device: HTC Touch HD, rom 1.13 ITA
bbonzz said:
The PC version works ok; the ppc one, instead, not: the upper part (where in pc there is the app list) is blank, and i can only see the description of the first item (as now PockeTwit) and its image. Nothing else. The lower part (WVGA-VGA) is also blank.
Device: HTC Touch HD, rom 1.13 ITA
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Thanks. I'm using an external library for some of the controls (ie the listbox that doesn't show on your pda) and thought they would size properly.
The HTC Touch HD has a screen size of 480x800 - I'll check the code to make sure it handles this.
UPDATE: I made some changes on how controls are sized and tested this in the 240x320, 240x400, 480x640, and 480x800 emulators. They seem to be working correctly now.
Pulled the links again? All I see on the basic4ppc thread appears to be source code? and no link to anything here either. Dead project?
lotherius said:
Pulled the links again? All I see on the basic4ppc thread appears to be source code? and no link to anything here either. Dead project?
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Joel2009 has taken the source code and started a new project thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=513503
The purpose of this thread is to have all information regarding the Weloop Tommy, gathered, fresh and to the point.
(i am not affiliated with Weloop)
Please read both post number 1, 2 and search thread before asking questions thank you.
FAQ
Q:What is the latest firmware?
[Release] black watch v3.19 firmware update notifications [Copy link]
This update to the firmware update, the client does not update the current firmware version v3.18 firmware watches friends can try to use the old client detects the firmware update.
Update:
Solve watches restart, restore factory settings watches language will change.
Download Link:
iOS client 2.079: http://fir.im/iosobt
Android client 1.29.3702b: http://fir.im/andobt
Unofficial file archive of WeLoop Tommy. APK-Files with ending "b" are BETA http://www.wtf.li/
Q: When is the next app update
A: Weloop v. 3.0 will be released as closed beta 7the of March 2015 we don't know when there will be an open english release....
the extensive update 3.0 have,
better health monitoring
profiles
sleep monitoring
more alarms weekdays/weekend
and more.
(see attached pictures for app version 3.0 UI improvements
Q: What does the settings do?
- Backlight
24H: Backligth always turns on when button is pressed
Nite: Backligth turns on when button is pressed at night time (from 17–8)
Off: Backligth Always Off
- Motion
24H: Motion detection always on (backlight turns on when motion is detected)
Nite: Motion detection on at night time (from 17-8)
Off: Motion detection Off
- Night
On: Notification vibration disabled at night (from 23–8)
Off: Notification enabled at night
- O Clock
On: every whole hour the watch will vibrate. 12'O'clock etc.
Off: Off
- Fitness
On: Fitness functionality on
Off: Off
- Language
Chinese
English
- Anti Loss
On: Alarm when Phone is out of BT range
Off: Off
Q: Is there Cyrillic support
A: Yes
Q: The GoClever Ecos Chronos is the same watch right?
A: Yes it is on the hardware side, and you can with a "hack" install the firmware from the ECOS on the Tommy. (see next post for How to.!)
Awesome Weloop Review by VECTRON
http://forum.xda-developers.com/smartwatch/other-smartwatches/weloop-tommy-smartwatch-looks-best-t2864444
Troubleshooting
Q: i can not update my watch/its stuck/acting weird
Have you tried to reset the watch? there are 3 ways to do it
Restart watch from app. under update there is a restart button (it says reset but it restarts and keeps all your settings)
Reset from watch (Last menu point, this resets everything)
Hard reset (connect charge cable and press up and down button to reset)
Force OTA update:
Connect your watch to the charger. (watch must be charging)
Press all 3 buttons on the side simultaneously
Release the 2 side buttons, and keep the middle button pressed until you get the upgrade connecting display. (this might take some seconds)
Delete connection from phone
Connect and pair from app and upgrade
If you are on an Android device and it cannot connect, try an ios device, and vice versa
Q: The watch keeps switching back to chinese
More people have experienced that if the language is non english the watch will reset to chinese. Changing the phone OS to english stops the watch from switching to Chinese.
"Hacks"
How to make your own watchfaces:
user fcsabika has created a cool tool to create your own watchfaces
WeLoop Tommy Watchface Creator
attached are also some watchfaces made by user ruicoel filename "project rui.zip"
How To install GoClever Chronos ECO firmware on Weloop tommy (android only)
Download latest ECO firmware to phone
Disconnect Watch from phone, install ECO app
Go to “Check For Upgrade”
Tap on the middle circle six times
“Select a firmware file___ [Browse]”
Watch must be in forced OTA
Update watch.
You can flash between weloop and Goclever firmware (always be careful and follow instructions when flashing, i take no responsibility for bricked or exploding watches...)
To install weloop firnware, follow same instructions but use weloop app instead.
PROJECT OPEN FIRMWARE (please make sure you understand what this is and what it does before you attemtp to flash your watch)
Make a Weloop Tommy an open source sport watch that can be used without a mobile phone. Want to see a heart rate when running, cycling speed and cadence when cycling or number of laps while swimming? Help to make it possible! LINK
This project is divided into six phases:
Phase 1: find out and document watch pinout so it will be possible to communicate with screen, accelerometer and a flash memory from a custom firmware. DONE
Phase 2: write a custom firmware that will print sample text on a screen and expose a BLE service. Firmware will be flashed using SWD connector. DONE
Phase 3: make it possible to upload a custom firmware using OTA. This will save the waterproof case from destruction. DONE
Phase 4: update softdevice to the newest version (S110 8.0.0). Add possibility to switch to other softdevice (S120/S130) DONE
Phase 5: create a "terminal" firmware that allows to control what is displayed on a watch from an android/iOS app. IN PROGRESS
Phase 6: create a "standalone" firmware using S130 softdevice that can connect to external sensors (HRS, CSCS etc) without a phone. TODO
Go support developer Krzysiek
Goclever APK & FW file is attached to this post.
Latest Chronos ECO firmware 3.18
http://www.chronos.goclever.com:8080/fileServer/firmware/CHRONOSECO_V3.18_1.bin
Chronos ECO app (android)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yf.foreign.goclever
Chronos ECO IOS app
https://itunes.apple.com/th/app/goclever-chronos-eco/id955306578?mt=8
BUGS & Annoyances
Notification not always deleted from phone when deleted on watch
Watch freezes sometimes
Being able to set the night time manually would be great (This can be done with the Goclever fw)
I'm no Dev so I'm not sure if this is of any help. While updating the watch I wanted to ensure my screen stayed on so I was tapping the screen.
If you tap the center of the percentage 6 times a pop up appears for you to select your update file. If you select browse it gives you access to a bunch of folders that appear to be inside the app or maybe the watch itself. I tried it several times and 6 is the magic number to make the option appear or disappear. It doesn't work if the watch isn't upgrading it's firmware.
Hope it can be of some use
skiiermike said:
I'm no Dev so I'm not sure if this is of any help. While updating the watch I wanted to ensure my screen stayed on so I was tapping the screen.
If you tap the center of the percentage 6 times a pop up appears for you to select your update file. If you select browse it gives you access to a bunch of folders that appear to be inside the app or maybe the watch itself. I tried it several times and 6 is the magic number to make the option appear or disappear. It doesn't work if the watch isn't upgrading it's firmware.
Hope it can be of some use
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Thanks was this working on ios or android?,
will add to FAQ
taleboblen said:
Thanks was this working on ios or android?,
will add to FAQ
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Android.
Thx
Thnx for the information, all working ok on my samsung s4, get the last version v3.18.
thx again
backlight
first of all thanks for this thread :good:
the nite backlight on my tommy watch actually comes on after 5PM (17:00)
i am from Slovakia, phone language is English, time zone CET (GMT+1)
interesting to see that yours turns on after 23:00
chsustik said:
first of all thanks for this thread :good:
the nite backlight on my tommy watch actually comes on after 5PM (17:00)
i am from Slovakia, phone language is English, time zone CET (GMT+1)
interesting to see that yours turns on after 23:00
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Thanks for the update. i decrypted some of the information from the official Weloop FAQ. and yes i can now confirm that you are right. it turns on from 17-8 thanks again. I have now updated the FAQ with the correct time for all Night settings. :good:
Hello! Can someone make last CHRONOS ECO apk link to download? I cant download it from google play.
k0ra said:
Hello! Can someone make last CHRONOS ECO apk link to download? I cant download it from google play.
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Hi , the chronos eco app is not compatible with the Weloop Tommy.
Brand new Tommy, it was paired with my phone but the connection was unstable, so I tried and forced an OTA update, watch is "Updating... 0 pct" but now the phone cannot detect the watch any more
Resetting the watch will restart it in ota update mode again!
Any help appreciated...
l.capriotti said:
Brand new Tommy, it was paired with my phone but the connection was unstable, so I tried and forced an OTA update, watch is "Updating... 0 pct" but now the phone cannot detect the watch any more
Resetting the watch will restart it in ota update mode again!
Any help appreciated...
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Happened to me also, try to delete connection under bluetooth settings on device. now connect to to weloop and pair from Weloop app. keep trying and then go to update. again persistence is key. keep trying to update suddenly it will connect and update.
Whas the watch on latest firmware when you tried the force OTA?
are you on android or ios see if there is an updated App for you phone. see link on OP for beta APK.
let me know if it works.
watch was not on latest firmware, cant' remember which version it had.
I'm on android, also v1.24 does not help as check for updates does not go beyond "Checking version...".
k0ra said:
Hello! Can someone make last CHRONOS ECO apk link to download? I cant download it from google play.
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l.capriotti said:
watch was not on latest firmware, cant' remember which version it had.
I'm on android, also v1.24 does not help as check for updates does not go beyond "Checking version...".
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Try to update the Weloop app, latest is 1.27.
kill weloop app
delete bt connection from phone.
Open weloop app
conmect and update. Keep trying it can take a couple of times.
If all fails if possible try with other device and or ios device
update: I used an iphone and after a few retries I got it on v3.18.
back to android, but the pairing and the sync is problematic, to say the least, on my Huawei P7...
skiiermike said:
I'm no Dev so I'm not sure if this is of any help. While updating the watch I wanted to ensure my screen stayed on so I was tapping the screen.
If you tap the center of the percentage 6 times a pop up appears for you to select your update file. If you select browse it gives you access to a bunch of folders that appear to be inside the app or maybe the watch itself. I tried it several times and 6 is the magic number to make the option appear or disappear. It doesn't work if the watch isn't upgrading it's firmware.
Hope it can be of some use
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If it's allowing you to select an update file, surely it is showing you the file system of the phone? Otherwise, you'd have no way to put a firmware update file there to select. My understanding would be this allows you to install a firmware update file stored on your phone, although I can't test this for sure as my Android phone is currently being repaired. There's some discussion about this here and that thread also contains a very small amount of analysis on the firmware file (VERY small amount, basically just analysing the name of the binary file), and another app that is apparently in some way related (link).
For what I can glean from the description of that app (seemingly made by the manufacturer of the SoC [System on a Chip] used in the WeLoop Tommy), it would appear that devices using the SoC (including the Tommy) have three firmwares: "bootloader", "soft device" and "application". The one embedded within the WeLoop app apk has the name "ble_app_ancs.bin"; ble stands for bluetooth low energy and ancs apparently stands for apple notification centre services. That leaves "app" - my guess would be this is the "application firmware". I'm not entirely sure the roles of the "bootloader" and "soft device" firmwares, but my guess is the one or other allows the device to get into "DFU mode" (or "OTA mode" as it seems to be referred to also), meaning in theory it should perhaps be possible to recover from any bricks arising from flashing dodgy application firmwares.
So potentially there is the option of reverse engineering the firmware (easily obtained from here: http://wtf.li/ - mirror of the APKs of the app [each of which contain a version of the firmware], and also one version of the firmware (the .bin file) separately), and creating a custom/modified one, while still being able to recover (because bootloader & soft device should be untouched). However, I have neither the expertise nor the time to look into that.
Without an Android phone with which to run either of the apps right now, I can't poke about too much (I only received my Tommy today), but once I get my phone back I'll maybe try and see if I can find anything else interesting. I'd like to see if I can figure out any way to get access to the watch faces, and see if they can be reverse engineered in any way, for example.
EDIT: Here is the output of strings run on the firmware binary from the latest version of the app on http://wtf.li : http://pastebin.com/X7TQXTb3 - nothing particularly interesting, a few filenames of the source files and a few other strings seen in the watch interface and stuff.
EDIT: A couple of URLs accessed by the app (seemingly related to updating):
http://au.umeng.com/api/check_app_update
http://www.yfsmart.com/weloopInterface/getFirmware.do
I can't see anything on these sites, my guess would be they need query strings parameters or something (not really sure what, some way of identifying that the app is accessing the site) to actually do anything.
EDIT: Hmm... http://www.yfsmart.com/weloopInterface/firmware_Upload.jsp - this site seems to allow you to upload a firmware. I wonder if it allows anyone to upload a firmware, which would then be downloaded by everyone when they check for updates? Certainly seems rather insecure...There's a bunch of other pages at http://www.yfsmart.com/weloopInterface/ haven't looked through them all yet.
EDIT: From what I can glean from this page ("SoftDevices" section under the "Development Tools and Software" tab), it seems like the "soft device" firmware is essentially a bit like a library, it's a precompiled binary supplied by Nordic (company that makes chip inside Tommy) which provides all the networking functions etc. which the "application" firmware uses. So:
Code:
application = front end UI (basically, the part WeLoop made)
soft device = "library" via which application can access hardware etc.
bootloader = initial part of firmware that loads SD + app firmwares
So the only really interesting part is probably the application firmware, the part that is in the WeLoop app. That's the code that actually "matters", the rest is just low level stuff. For actually changing the interface or whatever, modifying the app firmware would be all that's needed (for example, to increase the font size or the back light duration etc.).
SifJar said:
If it's allowing you to select an update file, surely it is showing you the file system of the phone? Otherwise, you'd have no way to put a firmware update file there to select. My understanding would be this allows you to install a firmware update file stored on your phone, although I can't test this for sure as my Android phone is currently being repaired. There's some discussion about this here and that thread also contains a very small amount of analysis on the firmware file (VERY small amount, basically just analysing the name of the binary file), and another app that is apparently in some way related (link).
For what I can glean from the description of that app (seemingly made by the manufacturer of the SoC [System on a Chip] used in the WeLoop Tommy), it would appear that devices using the SoC (including the Tommy) have three firmwares: "bootloader", "soft device" and "application". The one embedded within the WeLoop app apk has the name "ble_app_ancs.bin"; ble stands for bluetooth low energy and ancs apparently stands for apple notification centre services. That leaves "app" - my guess would be this is the "application firmware". I'm not entirely sure the roles of the "bootloader" and "soft device" firmwares, but my guess is the one or other allows the device to get into "DFU mode" (or "OTA mode" as it seems to be referred to also), meaning in theory it should perhaps be possible to recover from any bricks arising from flashing dodgy application firmwares.
So potentially there is the option of reverse engineering the firmware (easily obtained from here: http://wtf.li/ - mirror of the APKs of the app [each of which contain a version of the firmware], and also one version of the firmware (the .bin file) separately), and creating a custom/modified one, while still being able to recover (because bootloader & soft device should be untouched). However, I have neither the expertise nor the time to look into that.
Without an Android phone with which to run either of the apps right now, I can't poke about too much (I only received my Tommy today), but once I get my phone back I'll maybe try and see if I can find anything else interesting. I'd like to see if I can figure out any way to get access to the watch faces, and see if they can be reverse engineered in any way, for example.
EDIT: Here is the output of strings run on the firmware binary from the latest version of the app on http://wtf.li : http://pastebin.com/X7TQXTb3 - nothing particularly interesting, a few filenames of the source files and a few other strings seen in the watch interface and stuff.
EDIT: A couple of URLs accessed by the app (seemingly related to updating):
http://au.umeng.com/api/check_app_update
http://www.yfsmart.com/weloopInterface/getFirmware.do
I can't see anything on these sites, my guess would be they need query strings parameters or something (not really sure what, some way of identifying that the app is accessing the site) to actually do anything.
EDIT: Hmm... http://www.yfsmart.com/weloopInterface/firmware_Upload.jsp - this site seems to allow you to upload a firmware. I wonder if it allows anyone to upload a firmware, which would then be downloaded by everyone when they check for updates? Certainly seems rather insecure...There's a bunch of other pages at http://www.yfsmart.com/weloopInterface/ haven't looked through them all yet.
EDIT: From what I can glean from this page ("SoftDevices" section under the "Development Tools and Software" tab), it seems like the "soft device" firmware is essentially a bit like a library, it's a precompiled binary supplied by Nordic (company that makes chip inside Tommy) which provides all the networking functions etc. which the "application" firmware uses. So:
Code:
application = front end UI (basically, the part WeLoop made)
soft device = "library" via which application can access hardware etc.
bootloader = initial part of firmware that loads SD + app firmwares
So the only really interesting part is probably the application firmware, the part that is in the WeLoop app. That's the code that actually "matters", the rest is just low level stuff. For actually changing the interface or whatever, modifying the app firmware would be all that's needed (for example, to increase the font size or the back light duration etc.).
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Thank you for the insights and findings its all very promising. :good:
On a sidenote:
I talked to one of my colleagues who is an engineer (i'm not a dev but a Designer), it seems like we in the office are playing around with the exact same SOC from NordicSemiconducter. we tried one of the apps from the google play store and it connects to the weloop(see attached pic). The app was called "nRF Master Control Panel", tried the other apps from NordicSC but no luck.
Hopefully there will be some sort of SDK with the v3.0 release on the 30th...
I got my Android phone back today, and haven't tinkered too much with Tommy just yet, but I can confirm that the file system you are browsing when you tap the percentage 5 times during an update is just the phone file system. It browses from root (i.e. /), rather than /sdcard or whatever, which is the standard, user accessible partition, hence there are some folders etc. you may not recognise, but amongst them will be "sdcard" which will take you to your regular storage (note: this is the case on phones without a micro SD card as well), where you could easily place an update file.
SifJar said:
I got my Android phone back today, and haven't tinkered too much with Tommy just yet, but I can confirm that the file system you are browsing when you tap the percentage 5 times during an update is just the phone file system. It browses from root (i.e. /), rather than /sdcard or whatever, which is the standard, user accessible partition, hence there are some folders etc. you may not recognise, but amongst them will be "sdcard" which will take you to your regular storage (note: this is the case on phones without a micro SD card as well), where you could easily place an update file.
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Thanks for the confirmation. :good:
taleboblen said:
Troubleshooting
Force OTA update:
Connect your watch to the charger.
Press all 3 buttons on the side simultaneously
Release the 2 side buttons, and keep the middle button pressed until you get the upgrade connecting display. (this might take some seconds)
Delete connection from phone
Connect and pair from app and upgrade
If you are on an Android device try an ios device, and vice versa
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I tried to use the OTA update to go from 3.17 to 3.18 (on Android) but Tommy stuck on screen "WeLoop ... Udating 0%", my smartphone (HTC M8) with its APP (latest version) dont find the Tommy and it remains bricked, how do I restart it? I tried all combinations, but remains on the screen, help me!
I went ahead and compiled the new Windows Terminal preview for my own use, and figured I may as well share it with the forums! The only changes I made were to the project's metadata as the default values did not fill themselves in with the project's data (Package Name, Version Number, etc.)
I intend to keep the package more or less up to date with Microsoft's repository (https://github.com/microsoft/terminal) until Microsoft decides to release the binary packages on the Windows Store for use, at which point, I will likely remove the package from my server as it will be obsolete with a first-party release of the project.
You can download the certificate and project here: https://tonoxisisle.services/windows-10/Cascadia/
To grab the APPX certificate, choose "Additional Links" and then choose Publisher Cert. As with all third-party, non-Windows Store APPX packages, you will need to import the publisher certificate into the certificate store. After importing the certificate, you can install the application via choosing the "Get the App" button. (It appears to be regenerating the certificate each time I rebuild the app package, so I am unsure how that will work :/ )
Please enjoy! I love this developer community and am normally an Android person, but since I was also curious about the new Windows Terminal, and wanted to give back to the community that has given so much that I figured I may as well publish the build I have. I attest that I have made no changes to the source, and only to the AppX manifest, and am willing to upload the sources on my hard disk if requested for others to verify.
(To see the new UI, including the new tab and settings button, press CTRL+T. To have the terminal always show tabs, choose Settings and then change
Code:
"alwaysShowTabs": false
to
Code:
"alwaysShowTabs":true
and restart the terminal. Tabs will be shown when the terminal starts. I personally enjoy enabling tabs in the titlebar of the terminal!)
EDIT: The AppX package SHOULD support x86 machines as well, as I had built the package with x86 and x64 binaries. It does not include the ARM64 binaries, though if requested, I suppose it wouldn't be too difficult to update the app package with the ARM64 binaries.
"Either you need a new certificate installed for this app package, or you need a new app package with trusted certificates. Your system administrator or the app developer can help. A certificate chain processed, but terminated in a root certificate which isn't trusted (0x800B0109)"
Installation fails on both online installer and offline msixbundle installer. Installed the certificate beforehand to both local and user groups.
surajmanalcell said:
"Either you need a new certificate installed for this app package, or you need a new app package with trusted certificates. Your system administrator or the app developer can help. A certificate chain processed, but terminated in a root certificate which isn't trusted (0x800B0109)"
Installation fails on both online installer and offline msixbundle installer. Installed the certificate beforehand to both local and user groups.
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On the second screen (where it asks to select the certificate store), click on Place all certificates in the following store, click on Browse, and then select the third option from the bottom called Trusted Packaged App Installation Authorities, then click OK, click Next, and then click Finish.
Now you should be able to install the app package as normal.
Sorry, I guess I should've been more clear about that. Thanks @Futur3Sn0w
This has officially been released on the Windows Store, so I have discontinued attempting to compile it. About time too, it was getting hard to keep it updated and still compiling properly with the manifest changes I made to make the name and description appear properly... For some reason, even in a new clone I was still having problems building for ARM64 and x86.
Hi All
Just been given a Nokia 950XL. And have to say ugly phone but great camera!!!! But before I go setting it up etc what should I do first??
So please any advice would be appreciated.
Also include if you would recommend dual boot etc and what OS..
Also what app's would you recommend??
Whats the best compass app?
Is there an app that fully uses the Barometer etc?
Whats the Best app for Panoramic photos?
Is there any camera app alternatives etc?
Is there an OSM mapping app?
thank you in advance
regards
Lohtse
Keep it
Hi Lohtse,
This device is unique I spend days wake up without sleep to solve the problem of the apps and I realize something important
The problem is bad target system management by Microsoft development tools
Microsoft store is so dumb there is many helpful app but it want appear just by search
Some of the is apps "on papers" not match with your device system version but in reality you can install it and it will work
Now let me tell you it's not totally bad device if you get the exact apps on it, it will be almost like your laptop with many helpful staff
First
Check the latest updates and then you have to unlock the system so you can do some enhancements like:
Increasing Paging files from 256MB to 1GB
Transfer files via SFTP without using the USB cable
Uninstall official apps preinstalled like (Photos, Calculator..etc) -> you need this
And more..
Second
here list of apps you might have some of it but with old version:
Before you start just install the official AppInstaller to be able to install apps directly from the phone without alternative tool
Get it from here:
drive.google.com/file/d/1HfsBg8hiqlKBTroK0xvB45h_SiSBha_1/view
Also you need to read this because some of the apps need to modify the target system version before install otherwise it will not installed.
Deploy Unsigned APPX/UWP
Utilities:
Perfect Tool (Official Store)
(QR Code, Ruler, Compass, other helpful tools)
microsoft.com/en-us/p/app/9nblggh4r8dw
Microsoft Official
The new versions (you need to uninstall the previous apps using Introp Tools)
Translator (New)
drive.google.com/file/d/1QTcnJFhg2sgoxQsSFJVpLcb6QNUWzyB8/view
Photos (New)
Very very advanced and helpful you can edit videos with it
drive.google.com/file/d/1vW1lXXFo2RBy0UpXeqG1-EryabRPWVWH/view
Alarms & Clock (New)
drive.google.com/file/d/1kAamihWVXSAy70PKayjK21PS-bTbZas8/view
Calculator (New)
drive.google.com/file/d/1BneIdp59XrNtl0fE-inuN74VUr6bHqcw/view
Voice Recorder (New)
drive.google.com/file/d/1EVg1ViAxMn6fEtzZG8ds3rYWQcuTBmZp/view
Photos and Editors
Panorama & Camera app (New)
drive.google.com/file/d/1Vl392MRMXBOtfPM3DF32X4U05nlw6zeB/view
Lumia Cinemagraph (Official Store)
Cool app you can take photo and make part of it alive with repeated motion, just try it
microsoft.com/en-us/p/lumia-cinemagraph/9wzdncrfhx4d
Nokia Creative Studio (XAP APP Need Deployment tool)
published by Hritwik
https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4090254&d=1490599831
Multimedia
Movie Maker 8.1 (Official Store)
microsoft.com/en-us/p/movie-maker-81/9wzdncrfhwx8
Lumia Play To (Official Store)
Very good casting app it's working with my old TV which is great
microsoft.com/en-us/p/lumia-play-to/9wzdncrfhx3f
Video Tuner
Video Editing app with very good features
drive.google.com/file/d/1K1p5yxrVYwk9irAVK_czjkj-0sGj8w86/view
Art Tools
Paint 3D
drive.google.com/file/d/112ZYj86t4KY0X84-bItuDur8z6RuVym-/view
View 3D
drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ul3vSzff4hDo3oWM4vded1Iy952WH1Cs
Gaming Emulators
RetriX Universal Emulator (Enhanced)
RetriX (Universal Emulator) Enhanced Version
NES Box (Universal Emulator)
drive.google.com/file/d/16SXF4GXl7-KX0DKbYxSfaJjy_NR1hf91/view
PPSSPP
drive.google.com/drive/folders/1xuz1rCu3ThiLkTrerhWpLuT-SdzH0iDa
EmiNes
drive.google.com/file/d/1tpXx_Tc_8RoCY5bPjrjLotisBhs3nSE2/view
EmiPSX
drive.google.com/file/d/1fmb1JJGyoW9ZZ1fucum7TXaPrg1CVdN9/view
Navigators
Sygic (Official Store)
Works for me
microsoft.com/en-us/p/sygic-gps-navigation-maps-poi-route-directions/9nblggh16nlv
The only thing you might not find it, it's good browser I'm still looking for good option
most of the current browsers including Coc Coc not very good.
Most of the apps I found it on windowsviet.com which they have too many helpful apps.
About Dual Boot & Windows 10 ARM
You know.. I broke my phone system more than 5 times one of them it was completely dead but I was able to recover it again,
the point is if you need to try go ahead it's good to see full windows run on a phone and able to run x86 apps as well.
But
Here is few points why it's not very important
Your mobile internal storage will be filled by 70% because of the windows partition
You need a usable phone to call and send messages, it's not comfortable to switch the boot each time
Windows 10 Mobile is almost the same base of the normal Windows it just Microsoft makes it useless but I hope someone will be able to install a service to run windows apps inside it as I discovered in Windows 10 ARM, I was surprised that some of x86 apps works very well.
If you faced any problem during the installation or you need any assist let me know.
Hi
WOW excellent response thank you so much for taking the time to reply as you have..
Could you possible explain this a little further
First
Check the latest updates and then you have to unlock the system so you can do some enhancements like:
Increasing Paging files from 256MB to 1GB
Transfer files via SFTP without using the USB cable
Uninstall official apps preinstalled like (Photos, Calculator..etc) -> you need this
And more..
As to navigation apps am more looking for OSM mapping as I create my own maps for hiking etc
Regards
Lohtse
Update
If you got a new phone usually many updates need to be installed, this will fix many problems and increase the performance.
Go to "Settings"
Update & Security
Check for update / Windows Update
if there is any update it will appear or you will see a message "Your device is up to date"
If the system need updates this will take some time, and it might be there is many update not only one so keep try until you get "Your device is up to date"
Unlock
Unlocking the system is based on your needs.
If you are using the phone for regular use you may keep it as it is.
What I was meaning with
Increasing Paging: Paging files will help to handle more applications in the background
SFTP: to transfer the data via wireless but it's totally optional you can still use the cable
Uninstall apps
If you tried to install the new version of i.e."Photos" it will not work because it's already installed.
so the solution is to remove the current app, but by default windows will not allow you to do that form the settings because it's built in.
As solution you can use "Interop Tools" by gus33000
Available Here:
Release Interop Tools v1 Version 2.1.7.0 (Legacy) · gus33000/InteropTools
This is the latest release of Interop Tools from its Version 1 source with minor updates.
github.com
More details: Interop Tools v1 Version 2.1.7.0
Install / Sideload it (Check the guide below)
And go to "General"
Then Select "Applications"
Then Navigate to "Package List"
Search for the app you need to remove it.
You will see many packages related to the same app
In the bottom actions bar there is "4 lines" icon click on it to activate it.
Now select the packages you need to remove.
Click on the trash icon and wait until the app removed
Go to main screen to check if the app removed
If it's remove you can now install the new version
Note: I'm not sure if these steps works without unlocking I didn't tried before unlock, just try before to unlock it might work.
Install apps
Now Download the apps form the links and save them in custom folder.
Go to your device Settings
Select "Update & Security"
Select "For Developers"
Select "Developer Mode"
Activate "Turn on remote diagnostics"
Activate "Authentication"
Using your computer: open the browser and enter the link that appeared in the developer page in your phone
if you got security warning message ignore it and continue (it's normal)
On your phone press "Pair" Button you will see pin code
Enter this pin code in your browser page and click "Submit"
Now you can install the app called "AppInstaller" using the web page
Once you able to install "AppInstaller" you can almost install the other apps from you mobile directly.
Note your device and computer need to be on the same network
OSM Mapping
to be honest I never used it before so I will do some search about it.
If I got anything new will let you know.
I wish most of the descriptions is clear, if you need extra details please let me know.
lohtse said:
Hi
WOW excellent response thank you so much for taking the time to reply as you have..
Could you possible explain this a little further
First
Check the latest updates and then you have to unlock the system so you can do some enhancements like:
Increasing Paging files from 256MB to 1GB
Transfer files via SFTP without using the USB cable
Uninstall official apps preinstalled like (Photos, Calculator..etc) -> you need this
And more..
As to navigation apps am more looking for OSM mapping as I create my own maps for hiking etc
Regards
Lohtse
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I thought I had read somewhere that you can control how the flash functions(eg if all three flashes ar used or just one or two of them) I even thought I saw the setting.. But for the life of me I can't find out how to achieve this... Could someone point me in the right direction!!!!
astifan said:
(...)
As solution you can use "Introp Tools"
Available in store: microsoft.com/en-us/p/interop-tools-preview/9ntgwlc0d3cs
(...)
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This version requires downloading the extensions after logging in to insidewindows.net because there is no General - Applications option in the menu by default.
Have you tried the open source Interop Tools v1 Version 2.1.7.0 made by @gus33000?
ze7zez said:
This version requires downloading the extensions after logging in to insidewindows.net because there is no General - Applications option in the menu by default.
Have you tried the open source Interop Tools v1 Version 2.1.7.0 made by @gus33000?
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You right I thought the version in the store same as the one I already have, I update the post with the latest version.
Many thanks for your notice.
right I have now done the introp thing... So how would I do the page file mod and how do you increase the screentime out(5mins is far too short)????
astifan said:
Most of the apps I found it on windowsviet.com which they have too many helpful apps.
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sadly now closed/domain for sale
lohtse said:
right I have now done the introp thing... So how would I do the page file mod and how do you increase the screentime out(5mins is far too short)????
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Increase the paging file (required unlocked device):
Open Interop Tools
Go to "Registry"
Select "Registry browser"
Select "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE (HKLM)"
Select "System"
Select "CurrentControlSet"
Select "Control"
Select "Session Manager"
Select "Memory Management"
Select "Paging File"
Now In "Registry Value Data" Change The numbers from 256 to 1024
The final value will be "u:\pagefiles.sys 1024 1024"
Click on the "right icon at the bottom" to save the result
To check if the result saved just reopen the "Paging File" again, If the result back to the original "256" maybe your device is not unlocked yet.
Reboot the device to apply the changes.
Change Screen timeout:
Open Interop Tools
Go to "Registry"
Select "Registry browser"
Select "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE (HKLM)"
Select "Software"
Select "Microsoft"
Select "Settings"
Select "Lock"
Select "DisableNever"
Set "Registry Value Data" to 0
Then go to settings and check "Never" will be available now with some extra values.
astifan said:
Increase the paging file (required unlocked device):
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is that boot loader unlocked or interop???
thank you for the information....
what other hacks would you suggest?
lohtse said:
is that boot loader unlocked or interop???
thank you for the information....
what other hacks would you suggest?
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To be able to edit some of the protected registry values you need to do "Interop Unlock"
"Interop Unlock" will allow you to do almost everything you need.
Don't activate "Full Filesystem Access" In "Unlock" -> "Interop Unlock" it will not work with Lumia 950/XL and it might affect on the usb connection.
If you didn't find a clear guide for "Interop Unlock" let me know I will write a full guide based on my experiment because some of the details online line is very clear.
astifan said:
To be able to edit some of the protected registry values you need to do "Interop Unlock"
"Interop Unlock" will allow you to do almost everything you need.
Don't activate "Full Filesystem Access" In "Unlock" -> "Interop Unlock" it will not work with Lumia 950/XL and it might affect on the usb connection.
If you didn't find a clear guide for "Interop Unlock" let me know I will write a full guide based on my experiment because some of the details online line is very clear.
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Thank you for that information worked a treat.
I have read that the FM radio is not activated on the 950xl, is this correct is so how do I reactivate it?
also is there away to have a bigger tile other than the three choices we have?
lohtse said:
Thank you for that information worked a treat.
I have read that the FM radio is not activated on the 950xl, is this correct is so how do I reactivate it?
also is there away to have a bigger tile other than the three choices we have?
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The radio is working by default, try this app (almost the best you could find)
Radio FM Phone
Sadly the tiles sizes are fixed as I know, if you want to add some design to the start page you can use this app
Group Tiles
and this app if you want to add custom tiles based on your needs
edgeTile
Check the attached image to see how I did some titles to organize the start page.
astifan said:
The radio is working by default, try this app (almost the best you could find)
Radio FM Phone
Sadly the tiles sizes are fixed as I know, if you want to add some design to the start page you can use this app
Group Tiles
and this app if you want to add custom tiles based on your needs
edgeTile
Check the attached image to see how I did some titles to organize the start page.
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Click to collapse
Thank you for that... and radio works great... Have to say am loving the 950xl.... only thing I am really missing is a good off route navigation/mapping app if I could find a good one then everything would be nearly perfect.
also is there away to install the original lumia camera app so we can get flash control(number of flashes used ) back?
finally how do I gain full access to the file system on the device???
does any one have the file for this
Lumia Cinemagraph (Official Store)
Cool app you can take photo and make part of it alive with repeated motion, just try it
microsoft.com/en-us/p/lumia-cinemagraph/9wzdncrfhx4d
will not let me download it from store to device as says not compatible with this device
lohtse said:
does any one have the file for this
Lumia Cinemagraph (Official Store)
Cool app you can take photo and make part of it alive with repeated motion, just try it
microsoft.com/en-us/p/lumia-cinemagraph/9wzdncrfhx4d
will not let me download it from store to device as says not compatible with this device
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It should work, ignore the compatible message just check the following:
the apps updated including "Microsoft Store" from "Menu" -> "Donwloads and updates"
there is no remaining system updates "Settings" -> "Windows update"
check if there is a "Get" button sometimes it's appear even of there is a compatibility message, click on the button if you found it.
If nothing above worked do the following:
Go to your PC
Be sure you are using the same email/account in both "Phone/PC"
Open the browser and be sure you are logged to your account/email
Open the link of the app
click on "Get"
a message will appear "you own this app"
once you get this message go back to your phone
Open Microsoft store -> Menu
Select "My Library"
Check if the app is there (you can sort the library by name which is better)
Click "Install" behind the app icon
The problem is some of the apps does not appear in Phone store but it will appear in PC store
so this trick will help you to get many apps in the same way,
but I think it will work only with the browser not the desktop app.
astifan said:
It should work, ignore the compatible message just check the following:
the apps updated including "Microsoft Store" from "Menu" -> "Donwloads and updates"
there is no remaining system updates "Settings" -> "Windows update"
check if there is a "Get" button sometimes it's appear even of there is a compatibility message, click on the button if you found it.
If nothing above worked do the following:
Go to your PC
Be sure you are using the same email/account in both "Phone/PC"
Open the browser and be sure you are logged to your account/email
Open the link of the app
click on "Get"
a message will appear "you own this app"
once you get this message got back to your phone
Open Microsoft store -> Menu
Select "My Library"
Check if the app is there (you can sort the library by name which is better)
Click "Install" behind the app icon
The problem is some of the apps does not appear in Phone store but it will appear in PC store
so this trick will help you to get many apps in the same way,
but I think it will work only with the browser not the desktop app.
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did as you suggested.. all I get in store is .this app is not compatible with this device.
nevermind... missed the my library part .... worked a treat,,, thank you
lohtse said:
finally how do I gain full access to the file system on the device???
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As per my experiments, gain the full access to the file system is not a big deal.
the files are protected anyway and some of the important folders assigned to custom users you can't have access, even if you was able to force replace the ownership of the folder and open it.. it will cause some issues with the system.
if you have something really important in the future it's better to use Mass Storage Mode, but accessing the file system while windows is running almost useless.
just don't use the feature in "Interop Tools" which called "Full Filesystem Access" I tried it before and it caused a problem with the connection with the computer I wasn't able to access the storage
astifan said:
Hi Lohtse,
Gaming Emulators
RetriX Universal Emulator (Enhanced)
RetriX (Universal Emulator) Enhanced Version
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Trying to install this, Used durect method(filemanager) portal and interop. but always fails after installing net packages say a prerequisite for an install could not be satisfied... any ideas how to oover come this?