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Still no sdcard slot!
Still no USB On-The-Go memory device support (we have USB joystick support but still no memory devices)
I haven't tried abusing the Camera Connection Kit yet to see if I can use a camera as a memory card reader.
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Still no sdcard slot!
Still no USB On-The-Go memory device support (we have USB joystick support but still no memory devices)
I haven't tried abusing the Camera Connection Kit yet to see if I can use a camera as a memory card reader.
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The SD card is a motorola issue, not a google issue. This has been pointed out in many, many forums.
what about Linux connection via usb. Can anyone confirm if this has been fixed?
vBulletin typing (like XDA) still sucks.
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what about Linux connection via usb. Can anyone confirm if this has been fixed?
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It's never been a problem. 3.x and higher use MTP so they can stop using FAT32 for internal storage. Linux does MTP just fine. What are you talking about?
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It's never been a problem. 3.x and higher use MTP so they can stop using FAT32 for internal storage. Linux does MTP just fine. What are you talking about?
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why was this method needed? Xoom will not show up as a drive, unless you do this. Where as with the Droid X, once plugged in, it showed up as a drive. I hope this makes sense.
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why was this method needed? Xoom will not show up as a drive, unless you do this. Where as with the Droid X, once plugged in, it showed up as a drive. I hope this makes sense.
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USB Mass Storage is the old method and it shows up as a drive. The Droid X is older than the Xoom therefore it is using USB Mass Storage.
MTP is Media Transfer Protocol and is the method used by 3.0 and higher.
How is it that you're using Linux and you don't understand this stuff?
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USB Mass Storage is the old method and it shows up as a drive. The Droid X is older than the Xoom therefore it is using USB Mass Storage.
MTP is Media Transfer Protocol and is the method used by 3.0 and higher.
How is it that you're using Linux and you don't understand this stuff?
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really? you cant just answer the question? maybe im new to linux. maybe im dual booting. If you dont want to answer, don't. No need to for the rude responses.
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The SD card is a motorola issue, not a google issue. This has been pointed out in many, many forums.
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Hmmm, from Android Honeycomb 3.1 Details ...
...Android 3.1 still isn’t intended, at the operating system level, for managing external storage devices. This detail, which came out in conversations I had with Google engineers today, explains why the Android file system organization is, well, a mess...
“We don’t want to expose the user to file locations,” explained Hiroshi Lockheimer, director of engineering at Google. “How do you manage that as a user? The not-good answer is with the file browser.” Lockheimer says that many of the experiences I’ve seen so far are what individual hardware manufacturers have enabled, as opposed to what Google has provided natively. The good thing is that Lockheimer says Google is looking at ways to do this; but the problem hasn’t been solved yet...
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I still dont understand why they havent added (or, in fact, have removed) the "clear all" button in notifications. If I download more than 2 files it really annoys me. (I'm OCD about unchecked notifications)
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really? you cant just answer the question? maybe im new to linux. maybe im dual booting. If you dont want to answer, don't. No need to for the rude responses.
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He did answer you. The xoom uses mtp which will not show up as a drive in Linux unlike older android which used mass storage. Mtp allows you to add files with out having to unmount the file system on the xoom. There are many threads on how to set mtp up. If you're new to Linux it may seem hard to do but its simple. Do a Google search for mounting xoom Ubuntu and you should find them easy.
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He did answer you. The xoom uses mtp which will not show up as a drive in Linux unlike older android which used mass storage. Mtp allows you to add files with out having to unmount the file system on the xoom. There are many threads on how to set mtp up. If you're new to Linux it may seem hard to do but its simple. Do a Google search for mounting xoom Ubuntu and you should find them easy.
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Thank you. And i meant answer without the snide remark. Thanks again for explaining.
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i know just what you mean, however i quite enjoy having the (X)s to click to get rid of them. I would like to see a slide to delete in the notifications aswell
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I still dont understand why they havent added (or, in fact, have removed) the "clear all" button in notifications. If I download more than 2 files it really annoys me. (I'm OCD about unchecked notifications)
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totally agree. there are lots of things i understand why they're waiting, but this? come on. i could clear all on my phone.
I just want to clear up a misconception about MTP. It is not a cross platform solution for transferring files.
My post from another thread on the subject:
I can mount my Xoom in linux using libmtp and mtpfs, however, it's slow, kludgy, and generally feels like it will flake out at any moment. Additionally, even when it's mounted, I can't seem to copy music across properly; it doesn't keep the folder structure. In fact, the directories are created and any non audio files are copied across fine, but every mp3/audio file is flatly dropped into the Music directory.
I tried to copy some music onto it from my fiancee's windows xp laptop and it worked ok (though the album art didn't appear).
The move away from mass storage to MTP is a massive disappointment for me. Mass storage has always been a big selling point for me when purchasing a device and for Google to switch to using a Windows specific protocol and consider it cross platform is a big letdown. MTP on mac requires a special app and on linux, support is dire, certainly for anything more complex than simply pulling images from a camera.
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I can just about get files onto the xoom, but I can't load music onto it; all of my mp3s just land up in the top level of the Music directory, regardless of how I attempt to transfer the files. I think transferring a zip file of the music and unzipping from within a file manager on the xoom might do the trick, but this isn't a good, workable solution. I understand the reasoning behind MTP, but it most certainly isn't cross platform and shouldn't be mentioned as a working solution by Google.
Hopefully people will soon realise not to keep insisting that the xoom has linux support when using MTP.
New update for drag racing is really choppy, lile playing angry birds on a g1.... but samauri II and the other thd games run smooth...dont kmow if its 3.1 kernel cuz it plays fine on my mytouch4g
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If that is a motorola problem and xoom is a barebone system. Who's gonna fix it, how?
stevebakh said:
I just want to clear up a misconception about MTP. It is not a cross platform solution for transferring files.
My post from another thread on the subject:
I can just about get files onto the xoom, but I can't load music onto it; all of my mp3s just land up in the top level of the Music directory, regardless of how I attempt to transfer the files. I think transferring a zip file of the music and unzipping from within a file manager on the xoom might do the trick, but this isn't a good, workable solution. I understand the reasoning behind MTP, but it most certainly isn't cross platform and shouldn't be mentioned as a working solution by Google.
Hopefully people will soon realise not to keep insisting that the xoom has linux support when using MTP.
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Change all the extension names in the song file name to .mp and it will allow the transfer
Then use something of your liking, I use astro file manager, and just add the 3 on the a tail end of the extension.
Its a b, but you can at least get a couple good songs on there.
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You're right, it's a cross-platform solution for transferring MEDIA, being the Media Transfer Protocol.
It's smart enough to detect the media files that it supports and put them in the right place. I prefer it over the old way, I hated having to unmount the sdcard every single time.
A poorly made Linux MTP library doesn't make it not cross-platform. It's an open standard for transferring media to USB devices.
It's not perfect, but it's great for a device like the Xoom where unmounting the internal memory is not desirable.
Honestly users get really confused by all of the extra directories when mounting an android sd-card anyways.
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The SD card is a motorola issue, not a google issue. This has been pointed out in many, many forums.
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Actually, it has been a big debate on rather it is Google's or Moto's issue, but I am sure that we all can agree that it needs to be fixed no mater whos issue it is.
So, apparently, it is still not supported and Google has no solution yet.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2275..._details_emerge_the_little_things_add_up.html
This detail, which came out in conversations I had with Google engineers today, explains why the Android file system organization is, well, a mess, and why I’ve had such inconsistent experiences with Android and removable storage across the various Honeycomb tablets I’ve tried (and I’ve tried all of them that are available so far).
“We don’t want to expose the user to file locations,” explained Hiroshi Lockheimer, director of engineering at Google. “How do you manage that as a user? The not-good answer is with the file browser.” Lockheimer says that many of the experiences I’ve seen so far are what individual hardware manufacturers have enabled, as opposed to what Google has provided natively. The good thing is that Lockheimer says Google is looking at ways to do this; but the problem hasn’t been solved yet.
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Is it me or does that say nothing still?
Google says they don't want to give you a file browser / file explorer / file manager.
Fine - there's plenty of third party apps to that on the market - but why not fix the SD card slot support?
Although I agree that some of the structure stuff is a bit of a mess - there's lots of random folders created on the SD card, like .android_secure, .bookmark_thumb etc. that you probably don't want end users seeing.
At least now it's clear that it's Google who has to fix the SD Card issue and not Motorola.
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At least now it's clear that it's Google who has to fix the SD Card issue and not Motorola.
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I honestly didn't read that at all...?
I read that google were working on some sort of file manager, not SD card? am I misreading it? as far as I can see file manager, and SD card are separate issues?
also the transformer, and custom kernels have the sd card slot working, so not sure who is at fault for the xoom
Why is there a difference between the tablet and the phones?
I have access to the SD Card and file system there.
Not like every Windows user on the planet has never seen "My Computer". Organizing files is not some obscure concept that is to high level for users.
From what I can understand:
USB file system means the OS access the usb disk in block level which the app (file browser) will have access to the full path of the file.
The one that is supported by Honeycomb right now is MTP. This is totally different compared to USB. The actual file system is implemented by the device, not by the computer's operating system.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Transfer_Protocol
My prediction, this USB thing will be solved by the upcoming ICE CREAM SANDWICH.
Because by then, phone and tablet are merged ... everything which is supported by phone (like SD card) must be supported by tablet.
So, yeah, we must wait till end of this year or early next year (worse case).
Still, it is too long for Motorola with their "promise", no?
@Kcarpenter
Very true - but I think the problem may lie with the Xoom using the MTP instead?
or is that a load of rubbish?
Eitherway, I guess from the Google point of view - they want it simple and try and hide the stuff they don't want n00bs messing with (a bit like Apple hide everything too so all their iOS are n00b proof!)
Also Phones open up to mass storage straight to the card - you don't get access to the internal memory at all. Whereas with the Xoom you would want access to that because there's loads of space there
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My prediction, this USB thing will be solved by the upcoming ICE CREAM SANDWICH.
Because by then, phone and tablet are merged ... everything which is supported by phone (like SD card) must be supported by tablet.
So, yeah, we must wait till end of this year or early next year (worse case).
Still, it is too long for Motorola with their "promise", no?
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What about just fixing the kernel like timat's - that'd do the same job for now
Still don't understand why they would slack on getting the SD card implemented. They have so much riding on honeycomb success. And the LTE radio needs to get installed too. Time to ramp it up.
I agree they should be able to enable it considering one of our own has already done so with a custom a kernel, I still love my xoom though!
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I agree they should be able to enable it considering one of our own has already done so with a custom a kernel, I still love my xoom though!
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agree completely.
and the LTE thing is running on awhile now - didnt someone say that the samsung tab 10.1 might beat Xoom to be the first LTE HC tab if Moto don't buck up?
Who needs google when you have bigrushdog?
Just did the 3.1 update and SD card slot still doesn't work. I thought it would've fixed this.
Yea, I read that article yesterday. It has NOTHING to do with the sdcard support.
Google was explaining why android in general has a fairly chaotic/unintuitive filesystem structure... NOT why they haven't biuld in support for SD.
it was well known this update was not addressing the sd slot. No wjere not one single ppace has google or moto saidnthe sd lotbwil not be active by the deadline they stated. They could give us slot access right now but the issue is as has been aluded to they would either have to give full file sys access or no file access like the phones. For those that will say it doesn't matter give us access. It matters to them as they will be creating huge issues with tech support by the much larger majority of users that would delete things that would kill or hamper the device. I mean even on here you have tons of people that can't follow clear simple directons to flash an update without screwing it up some how. Can you imagine Suzzy home maker or joe the guy who can not figure out how to do a windows update would do with full access. My guess is they will be doing a update with a file manager and permision set so nothing past the sdcard parent folder can be accessed and programs installed will have premissions set to prevent accidental delete without going into the file manger settings to change them to allow change of permisions.
This will solve both the issues and allow both sd card and internal storage access without opening up the core files to tinkering by BDUs
I ran out of storage for new apps a long time ago. My device is kind of useless for new things because there is no internal memory for INSTALLING APPS, even after removing 75% of my apps which includes system apps. There is just no more space. It still has 2gb of internal memory left BUT THAT CANNOT BE USED FOR INSTALLING APPS, stupidly. There are 8GB of total internal storage space.
I have plenty of storage for data. Just not for apps. I have a 32GB SD card as well.
App2SD apps, I maximized all possible data to be moved.
Apps with data larger than 20MB I just deleted the whole apps.
Still no more space.
Additionally, it means I CANNOT use this tablet for things like games, or for storing map data from gopilot live as a backup in case my phone dies. Which is VERY limiting. Especially because I used to like to play games on it but I had to remove all the games to make way for utilities.
Thus I DESPERATELY NEED to be able to install UNLIMITED NUMBER OF APPS using the SD card for internal storage.
I tried the vold.fstab method HERE, but it did not work.
PLEASE HELP!!! THANK YOU!!!
p.s. I WOULD BUY A NEW TABLET WITH MORE MEMORY BUT NO 7.0 INCH TABLET EXISTS THAT IS BETTER THAN THE TAB 4 BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL MAKING HUGE 8.0 and 8.4 INCH TABLETS THAT ARE TOO BIG SO I AM STUCK WITH THE TAB 4.
zxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzx said:
I ran out of storage for new apps a long time ago. My device is kind of useless for new things because there is no internal memory for INSTALLING APPS, even after removing 75% of my apps which includes system apps. There is just no more space. It still has 2gb of internal memory left BUT THAT CANNOT BE USED FOR INSTALLING APPS, stupidly. There are 8GB of total internal storage space.
I have plenty of storage for data. Just not for apps. I have a 32GB SD card as well.
App2SD apps, I maximized all possible data to be moved.
Apps with data larger than 20MB I just deleted the whole apps.
Still no more space.
Additionally, it means I CANNOT use this tablet for things like games, or for storing map data from gopilot live as a backup in case my phone dies. Which is VERY limiting. Especially because I used to like to play games on it but I had to remove all the games to make way for utilities.
Thus I DESPERATELY NEED to be able to install UNLIMITED NUMBER OF APPS using the SD card for internal storage.
I tried the vold.fstab method HERE, but it did not work.
PLEASE HELP!!! THANK YOU!!!
p.s. I WOULD BUY A NEW TABLET WITH MORE MEMORY BUT NO 7.0 INCH TABLET EXISTS THAT IS BETTER THAN THE TAB 4 BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL MAKING HUGE 8.0 and 8.4 INCH TABLETS THAT ARE TOO BIG SO I AM STUCK WITH THE TAB 4.
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i'd say you just need test different apps all over and over akd different methods from XDA, i have on my phone sdcard as internal memory but same method wont work on tab 4..... you should use folder mount to move appdata to sdcard and use it from there, it helps if you have big app data on internal sd card.
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i'd say you just need test different apps all over and over akd different methods from XDA, i have on my phone sdcard as internal memory but same method wont work on tab 4..... you should use folder mount to move appdata to sdcard and use it from there, it helps if you have big app data on internal sd card.
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No I tried that already. It does Not work because of the error "this has been limited due to kitkat so you're not authorized" or something to that extent. It's not an error, it is a limitation of the kitkat (and all subsequent) operating systems. Google did that on purpose to try to force people to have to upgrade their phone.
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No I tried that already. It does Not work because of the error "this has been limited due to kitkat so you're not authorized" or something to that extent. It's not an error, it is a limitation of the kitkat (and all subsequent) operating systems. Google did that on purpose to try to force people to have to upgrade their phone.
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well, you could install cyanogenmod to fix issue.....
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Extreme measures is NOT a solution. That's like saying, "I'm having an issue with my computer..." and someone saying, "well, you could always get a new computer." NO. Not a solution.
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Cyanogenmod isn't an extreme solution, it runs better than touchwiz IMO and it takes up significantly less memory, which is a fact. It's more like saying, "I don't like Windows," and the reply being, "You should try out Ubuntu," especially since both cyanogenmod, like Ubuntu, is completely free
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Reinstalling my entire OS is not a solution. Get over it. I am not reinstalling a new OS.
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With a quote like that you are on the wrong website my friend. Sorry for trying to help. And it is a valid solution since it would've solved the problem
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Waiting for a real solution to the actual problem.
uh if youre not ready to install different rom i guess theres no solution
I'm having the exact same dilemma. In my case, not going to CM (or another rom/firmware/kernel..) is due to the fact that my children use the tablets, so the KidsMode needs to work. I've looked at that one from Zoodles, and its rubbish compared to the Samsung one available on their Galaxy devices. My original post never had any reply other than my own update.
By the way: I'm still searching for a solution to this... If only Samsung would/could release Marshmallow on this tablet, the Adoptable Storage option could be used...
Now, if you can just hold your breath...
lol I know right...?
Full disclosure: I've given up hope of finding a solution that will work with (essentially) stock 4.4.2, so now I'm looking into how to get the TouchWiz framework to run on a rom/kernel that DOES support support an external/internal swap.
Of course, that does nothing to help the OP, but IMO the best solution has already been presented to him: Install a custom ROM that supports what he needs. It's still the best solution since there don't seem to be any TouchWiz-dependent apps he needs.
Years later still no solution
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Years later still no solution
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If you are willing to root your device you can use Apps2sd to actually move(link) whole app into sd card.
You'll need to repartition your sd card to do it, but there are good guides to do it.
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Oh it's renamed app2sd but here is the link https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=in.co.pricealert.apps2sd&hl=fi for it
you can also try link2sd app
keikari said:
If you are willing to root your device you can use Apps2sd to actually move(link) whole app into sd card.
You'll need to repartition your sd card to do it, but there are good guides to do it.
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Oh it's renamed app2sd but here is the link https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=in.co.pricealert.apps2sd&hl=fi for it
you can also try link2sd app
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That's very limited and actually doesn't do anything more than the native android system does already, ever since about 2013 or so
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That's very limited and actually doesn't do anything more than the native android system does already, ever since about 2013 or so
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I don't know about how limited it is, but it's completly different than native android moving apps to sd. Linking is like actually increasing your devices internal memory(not really but somethign like that). Also it's easiest/(propably)best way to get more memory for apps.
Basically when i use ES file explorer i have roughly 4gb of apps , system file, and other stuff but its showing an additional 14gb or so used. Is this a common problem? I didnt see anyone else ask about it and googled for an answer and found nothing. Im hoping its not damaged storage and a simple fix. Was planning on giving the new rom a spin as soon as enough folks were running it to know a baseline on fuctionality and common issues as i miss having a clean rom with root.
Isn't that the storage used by the OS?
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Isn't that the storage used by the OS?
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I believe that is 8.68gb atleast on my phone and is accounted for. I dont have much in the way of apps and push most of my files, music, vids, pics and such to my external.
I pulled out my old Tab A 10.1 (2016) and forget just how ridiculously limited this thing is with space. I did some searching and found out that I should be able to use the "Format as Internal" feature, but the feature is nowhere to be found. The android version is at 8.1 Oreo, so it should at least be capable, but I can't tell why the actual button/feature is missing. Another method I'm seeing is by using ADB from the PC. the idea is fairly straight forward, and yet, not. I opened adb through cmd line. But the next step I'm supposed to do is enter sm list-disks to list my USB connected devices. But when I enter it, nothing happens. The command isn't among the list of commands brought up when you enter adb. So... I have no clue where to go next.
I just want my 256gb micro sd card to become the main/"internal" drive for my galaxy Tab A, so that all updates, apps, images, et, are saved, downloaded and installed on the SD card by default.
Not recommended. It will slow it down and may end up crashing it, losing data in the process.
Use the SD card as the data drive.
Internal memory is for the OS, loaded apps, the temporary download folder. The DCIM folder can go on either drive preferably the data. There can only be ONE DCIM folder on the device!
Always redundantly backup critical data to at least two hdds that are physically and electronically isolated from each other and the PC.
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Not recommended. It will slow it down and may end up crashing it, losing data in the process.
Use the SD card as the data drive.
Internal memory is for the OS, loaded apps, the temporary download folder. The DCIM folder can go on either drive preferably the data. There can only be ONE DCIM folder on the device!
Always redundantly backup critical data to at least two hdds that are physically and electronically isolated from each other and the PC.
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I appreciate it. I didn't realize it'd affect speed. But ... the issue is that the tablets only has 16gb internal. Half the apps I install cannot by move to SD card. Some streaming apps can while others can't. And before I even know whether or an app can be moved, there isn't enough room to install to internal. Ive search everywhere and can't find anything to install apps from play store directly to SD card. This is a major issue with updates too. I have absolutely no intension of installing games. But the majority of the following apps I do need for business purposes. I need to have social (Instagram, Pinterest, Facebook, Discord, Reddit, and Tik tok) for business purposes, as well as Etsy to shop and maintain my shop. Store apps I frequent for business materials (Amazon, Walmart, Target, Costco, Home Depot, and a few others). Utility apps for notes, docs, and calculating, among other things. Art apps for sketching and designing. And lastly some entertainment apps including Hulu, Vudu, Netflix, Disney+ Amazon Prime, and Kindle.
I know it seems like a lot, but please try not to criticize. I don't think it's too unreasonable being that I have all these apps and much much more just on my phone. I know it's a bit older, but I feel it's odd that my phone can hold this much without hinderance for updates, but a tablet can't.
I do truly appreciate your warning. I really do. But if you know the process (legitimacy), would you allow me to try it and I will take responsibility for the risk knowing full well you warned me? Please? Besides, the SD card was on sell, so it's not a big loss lol.
Take note that apps can only be placed on adopted storage media if the developer has specified support via the android:installLocation attribute.
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Take note that apps can only be placed on adopted storage media if the developer has specified support via the android:installLocation attribute.
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As simple as that statement may have been, that went over my head a bit. "developer" being Samsung? How do I confirm this? or are you saying that Samsung does not support it?
And is "adopted storage" the termed used for describing the adb approach?
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As simple as that statement may have been, that went over my head a bit. "developer" being Samsung? How do I confirm this? or are you saying that Samsung does not support it?
And is "adopted storage" the termed used for describing the adb approach?
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The 3rd party app doesn't is what jwoegerbauer
said.
This isn't the device for this job. Repurpose it for something else.
With those kind of apps you better get something with a huge internal memory.
Don't mix business with pleasure on a device; remember what pays the bills.
That said those apps you use for business are an open invitation for malware, phishing, hackers, etc.
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The 3rd party app doesn't is what jwoegerbauer
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This isn't the device for this job. Repurpose it for something else.
With those kind of apps you better get something with a huge internal memory.
Don't mix business with pleasure on a device; remember what pays the bills.
That said those apps you use for business are an open invitation for malware, phishing, hackers, etc.
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Fair enough. Thank you both! Ironically I had it as our over glorified house remote to control Home Theater PC (unified remote), XBox, Lights, Smart devices, etc... but everything is available on streaming, so we got rid of HTPC, and everything else we've been using through our phones. It does however make a very sleek looking $15 paper weight ^_^ (It's value is apparently only $15 lol) Ugh, I refuse to go to apple... I wonder what device would meet my needs. I'm about to wear out Google lol. Anyway, thank you both again.
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Fair enough. Thank you both! Ironically I had it as our over glorified house remote to control Home Theater PC (unified remote), XBox, Lights, Smart devices, etc... but everything is available on streaming, so we got rid of HTPC, and everything else we've been using through our phones. It does however make a very sleek looking $15 paper weight ^_^ (It's value is apparently only $15 lol) Ugh, I refuse to go to apple... I wonder what device would meet my needs. I'm about to wear out Google lol. Anyway, thank you both again.
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You're welcome.
You can find something for it to do... google repurposing old phones etc.
I have stock Samsung's only. They have a learning curve meaning they should be optimized before use. A model running on Android 9 or 10 would work nicely, disable firmware updates so it can't upgrade to 11 as that will break it. You want 256gb of internal memory, at least 6gb of ram and a SD card* slot is preferable.
If you use it for business consider getting 2 so you have a backup.
* all critical data goes here including everything you need for a complete reload.
Always backup critical data redundantly to at least 2 hdds that are physically and electronically isolated from each other and the PC. At the very least use a OTG flashstick to back the data up. Verify the data is readable and all there.
Never encrypt backup drives! Put them in a safe or deposit box if you must.
Develope a backup plan or eventually you will lose data.
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You're welcome.
You can find something for it to do... google repurposing old phones etc.
I have stock Samsung's only. They have a learning curve meaning they should be optimized before use. A model running on Android 9 or 10 would work nicely, disable firmware updates so it can't upgrade to 11 as that will break it. You want 256gb of internal memory, at least 6gb of ram and a SD card* slot is preferable.
If you use it for business consider getting 2 so you have a backup.
* all critical data goes here including everything you need for a complete reload.
Always backup critical data redundantly to at least 2 hdds that are physically and electronically isolated from each other and the PC. At the very least use a OTG flashstick to back the data up. Verify the data is readable and all there.
Never encrypt backup drives! Put them in a safe or deposit box if you must.
Develope a backup plan or eventually you will lose data.
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@[email protected] Thats a "lot" to take in. The information is straight forward enough, but when I feel like a monkey banging against an obelisk ... lol. I do get it, I promise. I'll have to figure out a plan. I just went and picked up an S7. Shame on me tho: I asked for 256gb and after halfway done setting it up (at home) it occurs to me its a 128gb. That WAS my bad. Not the sales rep. I should have been paying attention to price difference, but I got the protection pla, and had rewards points and there was a Sale, so the price balanced out, and ya. . . I have the attention span of a 2yo. But not gonna take it back. It runs very smooth and stores what I need/want. Work tablet anyway, so aside from nes/snes/genesis/n64 emus and Lemmings game from app store, won't be loading anything heavy (*head drift slowly up and to the right as I get lost in dreams of VR*) Plenty of free space. Just really really disappointed that the Device still have the Phone and Messages app even though Call & Text feature is disabled in the US. Anyway, Thank you!I really really appreciate the emphasis on backup. New to business, so have to keep in mind how important info is. Thank you again for everything!
It is a lot to take in.
It's a evolutionary process of learning and adapting... not all done at once.
Depending on your device and needs you will modify what I said to fit your goals.
If you load a lot of apps 256gb is probably better.
I don't like creating open box specials but do what you need to do...
You need at least 50gb of headroom after you're done loading everything.
You can get by with a lot less but personally I want at least 100gb of headroom after loading on the internal memory.
No such thing as too much... it comes in handy.
blackhawk said:
It is a lot to take in.
It's a evolutionary process of learning and adapting... not all done at once.
Depending on your device and needs you will modify what I said to fit your goals.
If you load a lot of apps 256gb is probably better.
I don't like creating open box specials but do what you need to do...
You need at least 50gb of headroom after you're done loading everything.
You can get by with a lot less but personally I want at least 100gb of headroom after loading on the internal memory.
No such thing as too much... it comes in handy.
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Ooooooh ya, I am right there with ya on Open box stuff. There are very few things I trust open box, but phones and tablets are not among them. So, I have everything installed and I'm at 27% used on internal. So I feel pretty confident so far.
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Ooooooh ya, I am right there with ya on Open box stuff. There are very few things I trust open box, but phones and tablets are not among them. So, I have everything installed and I'm at 27% used on internal. So I feel pretty confident so far.
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Yeah, I buy new phones only and so far its worked out well.
Sounds like you have enough internal memory
Get a V30 rated SD card like the Sandisk extreme. These run well. Format it in the device before using.
A .5tb one goes for about $75.