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I got rid of my Google Pixel XL and replaced it with the OnePlus 5. In case anyone is considering doing the same I wanted to post my personal impressions/comparisons of the two phones. I'm not going to recommend one phone over the other because different people have different needs and expectations.
Display:
Both phones have the same size displays but the Pixel XL screen is higher resolution--1440 x 2560 pixels (~534 ppi pixel density) for the Pixel XL compared to 1080 x 1920 pixels (~401 ppi pixel density) for the OnePlus 5. While the OnePlus 5 display looks fine to me there's still no getting around the fact that OnePlus used a less powerful screen to keep the price of their phone down. Winner: Pixel XL
Speed and Responsiveness: On paper, the OnePlus 5 wins this hands down since it has a more powerful processor and twice as much ram. However, the Pixel XL was optimized for stock Android in a way that no other phone has been able to match so far. If you are running pure stock on each phone the Pixel XL feels smoother and more responsive than the OnePlus 5 but not by much. Also, if you are running stock on the OnePlus 5 and install OTA's automatically people have complained about problems like battery drain or hits to the phone's responsiveness that can usually be fixed by wiping the system cache. On stock, the Pixel XL stays fast, smooth and responsive even after months and months of OTA updates. Winner: Pixel XL
Camera: This is another area where the OnePlus 5 wins big on paper. The OnePlus 5 has much more powerful and fancier camera hardware than the Pixel XL but the Pixel XL has a far superior camera app to such an extent that a lot of OnePlus 5 owners actually use a ported Pixel camera app rather than the stock one. The OnePlus 5 can take very good pictures under the right conditions--but there has to be a lot of available light and you need to be able to hold the phone steady. Shots with the OnePlus 5 can blur easily and using the stock camera app the OnePlus 5 has almost no ability to take low light pictures.--although the quality of low light pictures improves immensely if you use the Pixel camera app instead of the official one. If photography is an important element in your use of a smartphone then the fact that you get free original quality photo storage with the Pixel also has to be a plus. Winner: Pixel XL
Development: If you were a Nexus owner it's likely that you will be much happier with a OnePlus 5 than the Pixel XL. The OnePlus 5 is extremely easy to flash on and root. Official Oxygen OTA's automatically come in zip form that can be flashed within TWRP. Official Magisk and its modules work on the OnePlus 5. Even though it has only been out for a couple months the development community for the OnePlus 5 blows away the one for the Pixel XL. There are simply more custom ROMs, kernels, and mods for the OnePlus 5 than there are for the Pixel XL. If you flash a custom kernel there are also a lot more options to customized performance and features than there are on Pixel XL custom kernels. Winner: OnePlus 5
External Build Quality: When it came out the Pixel XL felt like a $600 phone with an inflated $1000 price tag. The external build quality didn't even come close to approaching what you would find on high-end phones from Apple, Samsung or Sony and anyone who says otherwise either never owned a high-end phone before or is deluding themselves. Even at the current Google Store price of $749, the Pixel XL feels overpriced. A OnePlus 5 with 128G of storage and 8G of ram sells for $539 at the OnePlus Store and feels like a more solid and premium built device. Winner: OnePlus 5
Internal Build Quality: The Pixel has build problems but you won't read anything about that on XDA, Android Authority, Android Central, Android Police or Cnet. How do I know the Pixel XL has build problems? If you do a search for Google Pixel Support and look through the official support thread well over 80% of the issues reported involve significant hardware problems with the phone. Issues commonly reported include the phone becoming completely unresponsive/dying either without warning or immediately after an update; faulty displays; problems with the microphone, speaker or both; battery and charging issues; overheating and general phone instability (random reboots, freezing or crashing). These are all hardware issues because customers do a factory reset which doesn't resolve the issue and then are told to RMA their phone. The problem of Pixel phones dying without warning was treated as a known issue on the Google support site from the end of November 2016 through the beginning of August 2017 then the thread dedicated to the issue was taken down and support suddenly pretended it wasn't a known issue even though multiple Pixel owners report it happening to them daily.
While this could certainly change since the phone has only been out for a couple months on the official OnePlus 5 Support thread less than 5% of the issues reported involve hardware problems. The closest thing to a commonly reported hardware problem would be faulty displays but I've only seen a handful of people report that. I'm not counting the controversial "jelly effect" which seems to drive a small number of people crazy while others like myself don't notice it at all. Even if you throw in the jelly effect as a hardware problem more than 90% of the issues reported on the OnePlus 5 support site are still software related. Winner: OnePlus 5
EAS (Energy Aware Scheduling): This is supposed to improve battery life by making the CPU act in a smarter and more efficient manner. The Pixel XL has it and the OnePlus 5 does not. If you buy the hype surrounding EAS or are one of those people who must have the latest and greatest innovations then you probably want EAS. The OnePlus 5 without EAS has a smaller battery than the Pixel XL with EAS but I get better battery life with the OnePlus 5 running the exact same apps. Actually, that's not entirely true--I always turned the location settings to battery saving on the Pixel XL unless I was using the GPS but leave location settings on high accuracy on the OnePlus 5--and I get better battery life on the OnePlus 5. Also, the OnePlus 5 without EAS has a more powerful processor than the Pixel XL with EAS but the OnePlus 5 easily runs 20F cooler than the Pixel XL. Winner: ? (This one really depends on your personal priorities).
Some final observations:
--Dash charging on the OnePlus 5 is faster than the Fast Charging on the Pixel XL.
--The thicker Pixel XL is more comfortable to hold than the slimmer OnePlus 5.
--The Pixel XL fingerprint scanner is probably more secure than the OnePlus 5 fingerprint scanner which reads a much smaller sample of the fingerprint.
--The OnePlus 5 won't officially be updated to Android Oreo until the end of the year at the earliest.
--The OnePlus 5 will probably only receive one more official Android version update after Oreo. The Pixel XL is guaranteed at least one more official Android version update after Oreo but Google is far more likely to support their phone beyond that than OnePlus is.
--There are a much better variety of cases available for the Pixel XL than the OnePlus 5. I'm currently stuck using a holster I purchased for the Pixel XL with my OnePlus 5 even though it isn't a perfect fit because the OnePlus phone is slimmer. Other people have reported using a holster made for the Note 4 which provides a similar fit based on the pictures I've seen.
Hopefully, someone will find this post useful.
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I got rid of my Google Pixel XL and replaced it with the OnePlus 5. In case anyone is considering doing the same I wanted to post my personal impressions/comparisons of the two phones. I'm not going to recommend one phone over the other because different people have different needs and expectations.
Display:
Both phones have the same size displays but the Pixel XL screen is higher resolution--1440 x 2560 pixels (~534 ppi pixel density) for the Pixel XL compared to 1080 x 1920 pixels (~401 ppi pixel density) for the OnePlus 5. While the OnePlus 5 display looks fine to me there's still no getting around the fact that OnePlus used a less powerful screen to keep the price of their phone down. Winner: Pixel XL
Speed and Responsiveness: On paper, the OnePlus 5 wins this hands down since it has a more powerful processor and twice as much ram. However, the Pixel XL was optimized for stock Android in a way that no other phone has been able to match so far. If you are running pure stock on each phone the Pixel XL feels smoother and more responsive than the OnePlus 5 but not by much. Also, if you are running stock on the OnePlus 5 and install OTA's automatically people have complained about problems like battery drain or hits to the phone's responsiveness that can usually be fixed by wiping the system cache. On stock, the Pixel XL stays fast, smooth and responsive even after months and months of OTA updates. Winner: Pixel XL
Camera: This is another area where the OnePlus 5 wins big on paper. The OnePlus 5 has much more powerful and fancier camera hardware than the Pixel XL but the Pixel XL has a far superior camera app to such an extent that a lot of OnePlus 5 owners actually use a ported Pixel camera app rather than the stock one. The OnePlus 5 can take very good pictures under the right conditions--but there has to be a lot of available light and you need to be able to hold the phone steady. Shots with the OnePlus 5 can blur easily and using the stock camera app the OnePlus 5 has almost no ability to take low light pictures.--although the quality of low light pictures improves immensely if you use the Pixel camera app instead of the official one. If photography is an important element in your use of a smartphone then the fact that you get free original quality photo storage with the Pixel also has to be a plus. Winner: Pixel XL
Development: If you were a Nexus owner it's likely that you will be much happier with a OnePlus 5 than the Pixel XL. The OnePlus 5 is extremely easy to flash on and root. Official Oxygen OTA's automatically come in zip form that can be flashed within TWRP. Official Magisk and its modules work on the OnePlus 5. Even though it has only been out for a couple months the development community for the OnePlus 5 blows away the one for the Pixel XL. There are simply more custom ROMs, kernels, and mods for the OnePlus 5 than there are for the Pixel XL. If you flash a custom kernel there are also a lot more options to customized performance and features than there are on Pixel XL custom kernels. Winner: OnePlus 5
External Build Quality: When it came out the Pixel XL felt like a $600 phone with an inflated $1000 price tag. The external build quality didn't even come close to approaching what you would find on high-end phones from Apple, Samsung or Sony and anyone who says otherwise either never owned a high-end phone before or is deluding themselves. Even at the current Google Store price of $749, the Pixel XL feels overpriced. A OnePlus 5 with 128G of storage and 8G of ram sells for $539 at the OnePlus Store and feels like a more solid and premium built device. Winner: OnePlus 5
Internal Build Quality: The Pixel has build problems but you won't read anything about that on XDA, Android Authority, Android Central, Android Police or Cnet. How do I know the Pixel XL has build problems? If you do a search for Google Pixel Support and look through the official support thread well over 80% of the issues reported involve significant hardware problems with the phone. Issues commonly reported include the phone becoming completely unresponsive/dying either without warning or immediately after an update; faulty displays; problems with the microphone, speaker or both; battery and charging issues; overheating and general phone instability (random reboots, freezing or crashing). These are all hardware issues because customers do a factory reset which doesn't resolve the issue and then are told to RMA their phone. The problem of Pixel phones dying without warning was treated as a known issue on the Google support site from the end of November 2016 through the beginning of August 2017 then the thread dedicated to the issue was taken down and support suddenly pretended it wasn't a known issue even though multiple Pixel owners report it happening to them daily.
While this could certainly change since the phone has only been out for a couple months on the official OnePlus 5 Support thread less than 5% of the issues reported involve hardware problems. The closest thing to a commonly reported hardware problem would be faulty displays but I've only seen a handful of people report that. I'm not counting the controversial "jelly effect" which seems to drive a small number of people crazy while others like myself don't notice it at all. Even if you throw in the jelly effect as a hardware problem more than 90% of the issues reported on the OnePlus 5 support site are still software related. Winner: OnePlus 5
EAS (Energy Aware Scheduling): This is supposed to improve battery life by making the CPU act in a smarter and more efficient manner. The Pixel XL has it and the OnePlus 5 does not. If you buy the hype surrounding EAS or are one of those people who must have the latest and greatest innovations then you probably want EAS. The OnePlus 5 without EAS has a smaller battery than the Pixel XL with EAS but I get better battery life with the OnePlus 5 running the exact same apps. Actually, that's not entirely true--I always turned the location settings to battery saving on the Pixel XL unless I was using the GPS but leave location settings on high accuracy on the OnePlus 5--and I get better battery life on the OnePlus 5. Also, the OnePlus 5 without EAS has a more powerful processor than the Pixel XL with EAS but the OnePlus 5 easily runs 20F cooler than the Pixel XL. Winner: ? (This one really depends on your personal priorities).
Some final observations:
--Dash charging on the OnePlus 5 is faster than the Fast Charging on the Pixel XL.
--The thicker Pixel XL is more comfortable to hold than the slimmer OnePlus 5.
--The Pixel XL fingerprint scanner is probably more secure than the OnePlus 5 fingerprint scanner which reads a much smaller sample of the fingerprint.
--The OnePlus 5 won't officially be updated to Android Oreo until the end of the year at the earliest.
--The OnePlus 5 will probably only receive one more official Android version update after Oreo. The Pixel XL is guaranteed at least one more official Android version update after Oreo but Google is far more likely to support their phone beyond that than OnePlus is.
--There are a much better variety of cases available for the Pixel XL than the OnePlus 5. I'm currently stuck using a holster I purchased for the Pixel XL with my OnePlus 5 even though it isn't a perfect fit because the OnePlus phone is slimmer. Other people have reported using a holster made for the Note 4 which provides a similar fit based on the pictures I've seen.
Hopefully, someone will find this post useful.
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Thanx this was very helpful from someone with personal hands on. I was thinking about the upgrade (or downgrade) but just the screen and software ui fluidity win me over to keep my pixel
I sold my 8gb/128gb OnePlus 5 and kept my Pixel XL
Camera is way better with the Pixel.
Things I love about the OnePlus 5 is it lasts longer compared to my Marlin, Charger faster of course, has more custom development with it and it's really thin.
While with the PixelXL. It's more comfortable with the hands, better design (in my opinion), and of course had faster updates. Oh and the pixel gets warmer than the OP5.
The reason I sold my OP5 is everyone I know thinks it's an iPhone 7Plus. Lol and low light camera really sucks with the OnePlus 5.
Abaddon said:
I sold my 8gb/128gb OnePlus 5 and kept my Pixel XL
Camera is way better with the Pixel.
Things I love about the OnePlus 5 is it lasts longer compared to my Marlin, Charger faster of course, has more custom development with it and it's really thin.
While with the PixelXL. It's more comfortable with the hands, better design (in my opinion), and of course had faster updates. Oh and the pixel gets warmer than the OP5.
The reason I sold my OP5 is everyone I know thinks it's an iPhone 7Plus. Lol and low light camera really sucks with the OnePlus 5.
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I've read that it does look a lot like the iPhone 7 but if you used a case wouldn't that cover up some of the design similarities? As for the camera there's nothing wrong with the camera hardware on the OnePlus 5--its 100% a software issue. The phone takes much better low light pictures with the modded Pixel Camera apk. But that isn't really a perfect solution either because there is no version that is completely bug free and the Pixel app doesn't take advantage of the dual camera setup on the OnePlus 5. The Pixel is definitely a much better choice if photography is your thing. Currently the best choice for OnePlus 5 owners is to use the stock app in bright light and the Pixel app in low light.
I should probably also add that Oxygen is a bit more buggy than the stock Roms you normally find on Android phones. In some ways the quality is more like a good custom Rom than a rock solid stock one.
Reportedly when the OnePlus 5 was first launched Oxygen had a lot of major bugs that were slowly eliminated through software updates. OnePlus 3 owners said that when their phones were updated to Nougat on December 31st last year the exact same thing happened --lots of bugs initially that were eliminated in successive software updates.
OnePlus seems to put more focus on hardware design than software stability and performance --which is pretty much the exact opposite of Google. That's something else that should be taken into account when choosing between the phones.
As an owner of OnePlus 3 I am never gonna buy all these new popping up Chinese stuffs. They are just never a complete product. The phone has an awful vibration motor, the call quality is **** and stuffs like that are never mentioned in any review but affect your daily usage.
There is no comparison here with a Pixel, OR if comparisons have to be made then other phones in much lower price segment like a Motorola G5 Plus or sorts should be involved too.
In the end, meaningless topic that's all I wanted to say.
ithehappy said:
As an owner of OnePlus 3 I am never gonna buy all these new popping up Chinese stuffs. They are just never a complete product. The phone has an awful vibration motor, the call quality is **** and stuffs like that are never mentioned in any review but affect your daily usage.
There is no comparison here with a Pixel, OR if comparisons have to be made then other phones in much lower price segment like a Motorola G5 Plus or sorts should be involved too.
In the end, meaningless topic that's all I wanted to say.
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I used to own a oneplus 3 and yes the vibrating motor is freaking bad compare to the pixel. But the pixel vibrating motor is freaking bad compare to a galaxy s8. Hopefully this will be fix with the XL2 which i read the the LG v30 has one of the best vibrating motor around. lG v30 is most likely a XL2 internally.
ithehappy said:
As an owner of OnePlus 3 I am never gonna buy all these new popping up Chinese stuffs. They are just never a complete product. The phone has an awful vibration motor, the call quality is **** and stuffs like that are never mentioned in any review but affect your daily usage.
There is no comparison here with a Pixel, OR if comparisons have to be made then other phones in much lower price segment like a Motorola G5 Plus or sorts should be involved too.
In the end, meaningless topic that's all I wanted to say.
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I really can't agree with you. I got both better call quality and better reception on my Nexus 6P than on my significantly more expensive Pixel XL. I'm also noticing no drop off in call quality whatsoever on the OnePlus 5. The OnePlus 5 has a newer, more powerful processor and more Ram than the Pixel XL. The only possible basis you could use to say the OnePlus 5 shouldn't be compared with the Pixel XL is price. Having owned both phones I prefer the OnePlus 5. I certainly liked the performance of the Pixel XL but I think the phone runs way too hot. The Pixel XL is the only phone I have ever owned that overheated and shut down without warning on hot days if I was using Maps, Spotify and the Google Store car charger at the same time. And according to Google even though it did that my Pixel XL was not defective. Google considers that normal behavior for the phone.
And before you try to put Google Phones in the same quality category as Apple or Samsung you might want to consider the fact that Google's previous two flagship phones (Nexus 5X & Nexus 6P) had such serious build problems that owners were lucky to get two years of use out of them.
Nexus 5X was made by LG, who are infamous for hardware problems, and no comments on 6P because it was mady by Huwaei. Pixel is HTC made, I have not yet seen any HTC made phone going into any well known hardware problem, time will tell, Pixel is almost a year old now anyway, so yeah.
8 GB RAM, this or that SoC, those don't matter for day to day experience, otherwise people would only buy them new Chinese stuffs like OP or Ximir or whatever.
Like I said, Pixel or any phone from a reputed brand is not even remotely comparable with these new OEMs like OP who claim value for money and whatnot. Unfinished product remains unfinished. Perfect lies in small details.
But one thing is true, Pixel is still no iPhone, can conclude that, I mean on the entire basis of hardware finish that is, but still as an owner of almost all the Galaxy Notes and S phones of past, I am so done with Samsung, they are not worth anything on the basis of software alone. I don't know how there could be more important things on a mobile phone that stable, fast, smooth software experience and a rock solid camera, Pixel has them, and then a lot more.
500 bucks is half of what I paid for Pixel, but its still no small money, LoL. If I were to pay that much then why would I accept a phone which has below average camera, questionable software, almost non existent or painful after sales and stuffs like that! I would pay even less any get something like a Moto G5S or whatever!
I have a serious issue with what basis you are using to claim that Google is a reputable phone brand. Based on what exactly --wishful thinking?
Let's examine recent Google Phone history, shall we? The Nexus 5X had a serious build issue that caused the phone to eventually go into a permanent boot loop. Google never recalled the phone, made any attempt to fix the phone and did nothing for owners of their defective product after the warranty expired.
Their next flagship phone was the Nexus 6P which was made by a different company than the 5X. The 6P also had a serious build problem that caused the phone to permanently boot loop but this time Google was aware of the issue just a month after the phone came out because it was happening to a lot of phones. Google again didn't recall the phone, make any attempt to fix the phone and didn't do anything for people who bought the defective device after the warranty expired. The Nexus 6P was so seriously defective that for many owners the $600 phone only worked for a little over a year before becoming a paperweight.
Google is such a wonderful, reputable company that they continued to sell both of those defective phones to unsuspecting customers on the Project Fi website as recently as 3 months ago.
If you need to RMA a phone with Google while it is under warranty they will not fix your phone or send you a new phone as a replacement. They will only send you a refurbished phone. With the Nexus 6P and currently with the Pixel there are persistent complaints that people receive refurbished phones from Google that are defective. And when they return that phone they receive another defective refurbished phone from Google. And when they return that phone they receive yet another defective device. It's not uncommon for people to complain that they are on their third, fourth or fifth device after doing their initial RMA with Google. And while Google sends you defective device after defective device the warranty clock continues to tick--Google doesn't extend the original warranty while all this is happening.
You can go to the Google Pixel Support site yourself and see how many people report hardware problems with their phones every day. Once the Pixel actually passes its second birthday if most of them are still working that will actually be an accomplishment compared with the last two Nexus flagships but I wouldn't count on that happening. I think Google is trying to burn out the Pixel so their customers will be forced to buy a new phone every couple years. There's no other reason for the Pixel
to run as hot as it does. High temperatures and electronics have never been a good combination and Google obviously knows that since heat triggered the problems with both Nexus devices. And both of those Nexus phones ran significantly cooler than the Pixel.
My guess is that my OnePlus 5 will still be working long after your Pixel is a paperweight. Only time will tell which of us is actually right but I have history on my side.
PIxel VS ONeplus5T
Thank you . I have read all these comments and your opinion. I want to buy oneplus5T but the price is an important issue for me. My question is that if I can get pixel 32 Gb in cheap price (now they are cheaper ) will it be better to buy pixel or wait for oneplus 5T to become cheaper and buy that. ? Thanks
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Thank you . I have read all these comments and your opinion. I want to buy oneplus5T but the price is an important issue for me. My question is that if I can get pixel 32 Gb in cheap price (now they are cheaper ) will it be better to buy pixel or wait for oneplus 5T to become cheaper and buy that. ? Thanks
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Depends if you value development? 5T will have a ton of support since sources are unified with OP5. I had a OnePlus 3 vs the Pixel XL for me Pixel XL did camera better and display that's it (£309 OP3) VS (£719 Pixel XL)
Really hard to compare phones at face value really need to try both and see which is better than you for the lowest price
Thank you, I also heard a lot that camera of pixel is better while screen is also better while other features are better in oneplus. There is a friend who was selling his 32 Gb Pixel XL around 200 US dollars, therefore, I was thinking about it.
shyshoki said:
Thank you, I also heard a lot that camera of pixel is better while screen is also better while other features are better in oneplus. There is a friend who was selling his 32 Gb Pixel XL around 200 US dollars, therefore, I was thinking about it.
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Pixel XL at $200 is a steal also remember Pixel XL is 1 year into it's life cycle and you're missing out on the better CPU faster RAM and UFS storage from the OnePlus 5
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Pixel XL at $200 is a steal also remember Pixel XL is 1 year into it's life cycle and you're missing out on the better CPU faster RAM and UFS storage from the OnePlus 5
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Thanks dear. I'll consider your points. Mobile world is a world of temptations
I was able to grab a new Pixel XL for $450 even though I'm using the OnePlus 5 now. I'm going to goof with both phones over the next week or so and decide which one to keep. At $800-1000 the Pixel (1 or version 2) is a rip-off IMHO. For half that price - that's another story. What do you think at that price point?
You forgot one thing... Op5 doesn't work on cdma. Pixel is more flexible because it's made by a US company
I am happy with the OP5, but let's be honest the Pixel kinda blows it out of the water in some pretty key areas. (and i know the pixel 2 is more expensive, but for the pixel 2 it's only $100 or so more)...
Photos/videos
Unlimited Full size photos/videos Cloud Storage for FREE
Waterproof/Dustproof
3 years promised support for updates
Google Customer Service
1st Phone to receive updates (no waiting for months/months/etc....)
So what about you guys/gals, any thoughts to purchasing one and reselling the OP5?
Why or why not?
I had the Pixel XL 2 pre ordered with a ship date of next week but canceled.
I am still paying off the Oneplus 5 and won't get nearly what I paid for it. Look at eBay its saturated with this phone.
In raw specs it would be a downgrade in ram even though its overkill. Going from 8gb to 4gb
The Oneplus 5 camera and display are not as good as the Pixel 2, but not terrible either.
-Has a headphone jack
- The battery life is superb and the dash charging is bonus
- Tons of development for this phone
- Oneplus is pretty decent with their updates compared to other OEMS
I use my OnePlus 5 (6GB RAM) as my daily driver for two weeks now. Until now I mostly used Sony Smartphones (Xperia Z, Z2, Z5) and I made the change because of the increase of price for the new Sony phones. I am very happy with it and love the big development community! I've seen the Google live stream a few days ago when the Pixel2 was presented and these are the following advantages and disadvantages in my opinion:
+ Pixel 2
IP67 certified (waterproof)
probably better for smaller hands
true stereo speakers
camera (quality and OIS+EIS for video)
- Pixel 2
5 inch is quite small nowadays (for me 5,2 inch is perfect)
no headphone jack (headphone through usb c)
fingerprint scanner on back (not necassery for a 5 inch phone)
smaller battery
pricey
+ OnePlus 5
Dash Charge (probably the best feature)
headphone jack
price (you can save a lot!)
ram (probably a thing in the future)
battery life (much better than my old Xperia Z5)
design (in my opinion the pixel 2 is kinda ugly)
fingerprint sensor (very quick and I like the position)
I have ordered one. A little worried about the screen issues with the V30 so it'll be interesting to see what the reviewers say regarding the screen.
If it's not an issue I'll probably keep the OP5 and get a Pixel 2 XL as well.
Used to own a 6P and it's nice to always get the latest updates and the camera seems incredibly impressive.
No, I won't, besides the unlimited photos is only for two years. In my opinion, Google shot themselves in the foot, bringing up the price, might as well get a iPhone X. I mean look at those bezels. Oneplus is half the price, I can accept the bezels. Just my two cents.
Too pricey for me. I feel like once the 5T/6 is released next year (maybe even this year), I'll just upgrade to that, as it'll probably still be cheaper than the Pixel and probably contain next gen hardware.
I sold my OP5 for what I paid on Swappa. People are snatching them up for fear of stock never coming back officially.
I have ordered the Pixel 2 XL, mainly for the camera experience. Constant software updates and support are a bonus. I paid using Google Store Financing, which I'm not too worried about since Pixel phones retain value well.
I think most people find the Pixel 2 appealing because of it's camera quality and pure stock Android experience (constant updates, newest versions, etc.). Other than that, the design also matters. I wouldn't call either the 2 or the 2 XL a good looking phone by any stretch. The 2's screen to body ratio is underwhelming and, really, it looks like something out of 2014. Now that's not to say the OP5 is anything different, but the curved corners and the smaller chins make it look pretty good overall. Spec-wise, the OP5 is way superior with that overloaded 6 and 8GB RAM. Both have the SD835 so no difference on that front. The OP5 also has a near-stock experience, and that by itself is good enough for me. Overall as well as for the value, the OP5 is better, and I'd choose it over the Pixel 2 any day.
First things first, the lack of a proper headphone jack is a no-no for me. Type-C headphones are nowhere to find (to actually buy some) and I don't want to think all the time are my BT headphones charged up.
Second, since the OP5 came out, it receives at least one (sometimes even more) updates per month. Its not as a Pixel but still enough is going on.
Third, you lose dash charging which is superb compared to other tech, and the Pixel isn't as developer friendly as the Nexuses were. Count the price on top of that, basically paying more for less features.
I think I will swap over to Pixel 2 XL from OP5. Pixel is now available on vodafone and from my contract I can receive a new phone, so I will switch in december I think.
OP5 is nice, but Pixel feels way more modern!
Well, the reason you see the phone so cheap is because no one in their right would ever but a phone off eBay, just a dumb idea. To buy a used phone you go to swappa.com
Much safer to buy there and the listings descriptions are usually exactly what you get. Because of that you usually get better pricing there
Will surely be sifting to Pixel XL 2 when it arrives in November in India...
Happy with my OP5 but Pixel 2 Camera and OS updates are main reason I am switching...
Yes I will be swapping to the Pixel 2 XL, already pre-ordered it - After I had my first encounter with OP customer service when I got my OP5, I've loss all faith in the Company. I'll be moving on.
I like my OP5, but it has some annoying quirks. The latest is my phone doesn't ring for incoming calls. Everything is set right, just no rings. I only find out about a call now when I get a voicemail notification. Tried all the normal fixes, even full factory resets, but no resolution. OP's customer service is pretty uimpressive, too. I ordered a 128GB 2 XL and will give it try for a couple weeks. If I like it, my OP5 is headed for Swappa.
google is copying apple's business model on so many levels these days, except they are not offering anything exceptional (i think apple products are great, for what they are). the main difference is, apple does what THEY do very, very well. hardware and software engineers back to back means their devices always run cleanly and efficiently. google is using the same parts as every other flagship android manufacturer, and tends to stay just behind the curve. they slap a decent (that's right, DECENT) camera on the back, put the google logo on it and sell it for flagship prices. i'm sure their support is better than OP (impossible to beat OPs level of crappiness here), but it doesn't make up for their lack of innovation and foresight.
basically, if you are on XDA, WE are your support team. developers here will likely keep you on the latest OS with latest security definitions. this is one thing google usually does correctly, but it's not necessary to pay that kind of money for a service that is usually provided for free.
plus, the pixel line is UGLY. OP5 is definitely a "2 year ago" design, and it's still light years ahead of the pixel.
if you take a lot of pictures, pixel would be better. otherwise, i'd say stick with OP5.
Giving my OnePlus to my father. Getting the pixel 2 for camera (oneplus camera is a letdown for me), fast updates, and to a lesser extent, being able to call on google assistant just by squeezing the phone (hopefully works as advertised)
Maybe in US it's only 100$ more than OnePlus 5,ie 640$ for 64 GB variant. But here in India the same variant costs 940$ !! So I'm gonna stick with my OnePlus 5 and I'm fully satisfied with it.
There is no difference, if you are trying to choose similar OS phones, hardware specs may differ though.
I would prefer buyin iOS device over OP5.
Nope. The cost plus no real upgrade other then screen and camera. Plus I don't think i'd ever go with a small 5 inch screen again. 5.5 is the absolute smallest i'd go (5-5.2" screens are for midget hands). I'm used to 5.7" screens. That being said the Pixel 2 XL would be the comparison and that isn't even an option at around $1000 for the 128gb. That's silly to give up on far far superior battery life, dash charging, never gets hot and overall performance.
The OP said 3 years of updates... nope 18 months and another 18 months for security patches not updates. Also, you do know that every other SD 835 is clocked slower then the OP5, 2.35ghz compared to 2.45ghz in the OP5 and runs cooler.
i like the pixel, but i hate the finger print in the back..if oneplus 6 changes the finger print, i'll not buy it either...
I could get the OP6T for quite cheap if I traded in my Pixel 2 XL. I am just wondering if that would be a mistake that I would eventually regret, or whether it's a definite upgrade from the 2 XL. I really like the 2 XL, but with so many ecstatic reviews on the OP6T I am wondering if I am missing something great. What do you guys think?
You're going to regret it, but not now, probably when the next developer preview comes out in march or when the new galaxy S10 gets announced. As much as the 6T looks like a cool device, its barely an upgrade.
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I could get the OP6T for quite cheap if I traded in my Pixel 2 XL. I am just wondering if that would be a mistake that I would eventually regret, or whether it's a definite upgrade from the 2 XL. I really like the 2 XL, but with so many ecstatic reviews on the OP6T I am wondering if I am missing something great. What do you guys think?
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If you care about camera and day 1 updates wouldn't bother. Although I owned a Pixel XL and OP3 and I preferred the OP3 due to costing only £309 vs the £719 or the Pixel XL, Almost the same hardware and a ton of developer support.
Pros:
-Gorilla Glass 6 (versus 5 on 2 XL)
-Snapdragon 845 (+0.45 ghz clock speed versus 835 in 2 XL)
-6-8 gb ram (versus 4 gb)
-3700 mAh battery (versus 3520 mAh battery)
-Faster charging (max 20W versus 10.5W)
Cons:
-2 XL camera seems to be better based on early reviews
-No water resistance certification ("trust us, it's resistant" isn't good enough for me)
-Notch, although in my opinion this is the least ugly notch of any phone yet. It's almost attractive.
-Slower updates
-Probably a shorter update lifetime
-USB-C 2.0 (versus 3.1 in 2 XL)
-Supports proprietary quick charging instead of USB-PD
-lower ppi (402 versus 538)
-front finger print scanner placement (this is not my preference. I think the 2 XL placement is perfect, but that's just me.)
So is it an upgrade? Yes, in some ways. Is it worth an upgrade from a 2 XL? Absolutely not, in my opinion. If I'm going to throw away the 3 years of the fastest Android updates you can get that I paid for, and exchange it for updates that are slower and less numerous, it's going to be for something a lot better than this.
op6t is a downgrade. just that simple ?
6t owners are gonna be stuck when-
1. 5G tech phones are gonna pop up everywhere starting feb march.
2. Even OP is gonna ditch this old '2 step' fingerprint scanner ( which is not consistent, quick and as secure) for the Ultrasonic/3D scanner that'll be intro'd by s10 and will most defintly be in OP7.
3. And NO LED Notif light. For the love of God OnePlus. Companies like Vivo have incorporated even an infrared sensor in that teardrop notch for face unlock in the dark and you couldn;t find space for THAT
I'm sort of tempted honestly. If my p2xl had taken a beating I would probably jump on the TMO deal
OnePlus camera is good enough for me and the extra ram and the super active dev community are major advantages.
OP6T is a nice phone. And since I've used OPO, OP3T and my wife has OP5T - one thing I can definitely say about OnePlus, it's a great phone and definitely the best OS in my opinion.
But if you have a Pixel 2 XL already, and moving to OP6T - You'll loose a 2K screen, way superior camera quality, front speakers ... And that's about it I guess. If it was a exchange for no extra money, I'd take it, but if I need to pay extra, meh, doesn't make that much sense.
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Pros:
-Gorilla Glass 6 (versus 5 on 2 XL)
-Snapdragon 845 (+0.45 ghz clock speed versus 835 in 2 XL)
-6-8 gb ram (versus 4 gb)
-3700 mAh battery (versus 3520 mAh battery)
-Faster charging (max 20W versus 10.5W)
Cons:
-2 XL camera seems to be better based on early reviews
-No water resistance certification ("trust us, it's resistant" isn't good enough for me)
-Notch, although in my opinion this is the least ugly notch of any phone yet. It's almost attractive.
-Slower updates
-Probably a shorter update lifetime
-USB-C 2.0 (versus 3.1 in 2 XL)
-Supports proprietary quick charging instead of USB-PD
-lower ppi (402 versus 538)
-front finger print scanner placement (this is not my preference. I think the 2 XL placement is perfect, but that's just me.)
So is it an upgrade? Yes, in some ways. Is it worth an upgrade from a 2 XL? Absolutely not, in my opinion. If I'm going to throw away the 3 years of the fastest Android updates you can get that I paid for, and exchange it for updates that are slower and less numerous, it's going to be for something a lot better than this.
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I'd like to amend your Pros Cons list:
Pros:
-Smoother OS with a few added features
-Gorilla Glass 6 (versus 5 on 2 XL)
-Snapdragon 845 (+0.45 ghz clock speed versus 835 in 2 XL)
-6-8 gb ram (versus 4 gb)
-3700 mAh battery (versus 3520 mAh battery)
-Faster charging (max 20W versus 10.5W)
-Slightly bigger screen (6.4" vs 6")
-It's a fresh change after being on Google stock OS for 5+ years
Cons:
-2 XL camera is definitely better specially with the new pixel 3 camera APK
-No front facing speakers, a single tiny bottom firing speaker
-No water resistance certification ("trust us, it's resistant" isn't good enough for me)
-Notch, although in my opinion this is the least ugly notch of any phone yet. It's almost attractive.
-Slower updates although they might extend past the updates for the 2XL (unsure we'll have to wait and see)
-USB-C 2.0 (versus 3.1 in 2 XL)
-Supports proprietary quick charging instead of USB-PD
-lower resolution screen (1080 x 2280 vs 2880×1440 ) and lower PPI (402 versus 538)
-fingerprint is slower and less secure
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If I'm going to throw away the 3 years of the fastest Android updates you can get that I paid for, and exchange it for updates that are slower and less numerous, it's going to be for something a lot better than this.
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Is it 3 years or 2 years?
Sab3elbromba said:
Is it 3 years or 2 years?
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https://www.zdnet.com/article/googl...droid-updates-will-that-sway-iphone-waverers/
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-Slower updates although they might extend past the updates for the 2XL (unsure we'll have to wait and see)
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Doubtful. According to the most recently published OnePlus update schedule that I can find, they are giving 2 years of OS updates and one additional year of security updates. With Pixels, I'm pretty sure you get 3 years of OS updates.
https://www.droid-life.com/2018/06/28/oneplus-software-maintenance-schedule/
Correct, Pixel is 3 years of updates, and OP is two. But at this point, that would provide update endings at roughly the same time since the 2 XL is a year older than the 6T. Its a very compelling device. And having owned three OP phones, they are the fastest and smoothest phones I have ever used. If they only had a better camera!
Not in my opinion, based on what matters to me.
Yes you gain a faster SoC (in benchmarks, but does it really matter in real-life usage?) and more RAM (the most interesting upgrade the OP6T has to offer imo vs the Pixel 2 XL), but you lose a better camera, faster updates, the Pixel-exclusive features, the front-facing speakers, a sharper display, etc.
The OP6T seems to be a great phone, but personaly I won't replace my Pixel 2 XL with anything else until two things happen:
-That new device uses the Snapdragon 855. It promises to be a way better upgrade than what you gain by using a phone powered by the 845 versus the 835
-That new device supports 5G (probably the biggest revolution in years in the stagnant mobile phone industry)
I don't see any good reason at the moment to replace the Pixel 2 XL by anything else, including the OP6T. That phone is better in some areas, and worst in others.
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Not in my opinion, based on what matters to me.
Yes you gain a faster SoC (in benchmarks, but does it really matter in real-life usage?) and more RAM (the most interesting upgrade the OP6T has to offer imo vs the Pixel 2 XL), but you lose a better camera, faster updates, the Pixel-exclusive features, the front-facing speakers, a sharper display, etc.
The OP6T seems to be a great phone, but personaly I won't replace my Pixel 2 XL with anything else until two things happen:
-That new device uses the Snapdragon 855. It promises to be a way better upgrade than what you gain by using a phone powered by the 845 versus the 835
-That new device supports 5G (probably the biggest revolution in years in the stagnant mobile phone industry)
I don't see any good reason at the moment to replace the Pixel 2 XL by anything else, including the OP6T. That phone is better in some areas, and worst in others.
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Exactly...
I had OP6 before this and I can say as a fact, even if in 2 days of usage, that I now get all the hype about Pixel devices.
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That 2 step unlocking system on the oneplus 6t has already started to get on peoples nerves. And I am not even talking about its accuracy or security.
Do not go by what they are showing on YouTube its actual accuracy is about three or four times out of 5.
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I’ve been through many phones in last few months
Started off with pixel 2 XL. Moved to note 9 to op6 , back to note 9, then to a mate 20 pro now I’m back with pixel 2 XL.
For the cost of a pixel 2 XL (used) compared to the competition, it’s a bargain and I’m sticking with it now.
The op6 was nice, was very quick, but camera and speaker sound let it down.
Note 9 was lush, but the camera I thought let it down.
M20Pro, hardware was amazing but poor software full of bugs, this has been a rushed release.
I’m now content with pixel 2 XL. Nice speeds, fast updates, great camera, nice scree, nice dual speakers.
I like OnePlus features but rest is same. Slow updates and life cycle is short. I have Pixel 2 XL and I dunno why I want to get Essential Phone.
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I like OnePlus features but rest is same. Slow updates and life cycle is short. I have Pixel 2 XL and I dunno why I want to get Essential Phone.
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I tried the Essential not a bad phone and surprisingly better than I came in thinking on it ..but stick with the P2 XL ,[emoji16] ... I keep coming back to mine..
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Got the Op6t today, and have to say i really like it
Had a look at pixel 3 xl and that thing is damn ugly
Op6t with gcam mod is the best combo!
Cheers ?
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Prattham said:
Got the Op6t today, and have to say i really like it
Had a look at pixel 3 xl and that thing is damn ugly
Op6t with gcam mod is the best combo!
Cheers ?
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Better than the Pixel 2 XL? Can you explain? Cheers!
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Better than the Pixel 2 XL? Can you explain? Cheers!
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Screen is way better like straight away i noticed it
Plus it's fast no doubt
Camera is good but with gcam mod you got the same pixel camera so there is that
Plus the battery is a upgrade
Design is way better lol
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I'm on the fence about coming back to samsung. I'm so used to being rooted and doing what i want but i hear now you can do most of that now without root. Main thing is blocking ads throughout the ecosystem and blocking apps from accessing the internet.
Will i gain more than i loose upgrading to the S10 plus?
Come back just for the OneUI .
It's a game changer.
Thank you Samsung.
Not that informative but thx?
I came from a 3XL and I went back to the 3XL. The hardware is great (except the fingerprint sensor, it stinks), but the software just doesn't work for me. Every time I give the S10+ another try I'm just annoyed with it. The Pixel experience is just better for me. My S10+ has been relegated to backup phone status.
disappointed, stay with the 2XL. battery life worse, smoothness of the software are worse. pixel experience is the best.
Sorry for kicking this topic but I'm curious about your experiences.
I have been using a Pixel 2 XL for 1,5 years now (and Nexus 6P, 5X, 5 before) and moved to a S10 3 weeks ago. I honestly don't know for sure whether I am going to stick with the S10 or not. It has it's advantages; especially the wide angle camera is one, but also memory management is much better. I never did a factory reset on my Pixel 2 XL though and went from Android 8 > 8.1 > 9 > 10 so that might be better after a reset.
I have tested several apps and actions but they are equal in terms of speed. The volume rocker of the S10 is located so annoyingly high it irritates me nearly every day and it is also on the incorrect side. I am used to the fingerprint scanner in the display and don't think it is better or worse. I tested the S10 one next to the one of the 2XL and the display of the S10 usually wakes up quicker. Battery life is comparable (I think) and of course the S10 is smaller, which is also an advantage. But the main camera is worse (especially sharpening and noise reduction are way, way too agressive) and some of the apps you can't change. I am using an Exynos version, but I don't think that will make much of a difference. Oh and why the hell are there so many holes in this thing at the bottom?
Anyone who made the same step from a Pixel 2 XL > S10 who'd like to share their experience?
I went from 2xl to Xperia 1 to S10. I loved my 2xl and I also liked the Sony but bought S10 for two reasons. Dual SIM which I need for work and size. I simply don't get why the phones have to be absolutely huge these days, S10 has a perfect size for me. I love stock android so had to make few adjustments to the UI but that's not a big issue. Camera is comparable to 2xl although not had much time to play with it yet. Battery life sucks at the moment but again, still early days, hopefully it'll get better.
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Whats up guys....its been forever since Ive had to root a phone due to having Pixel 1-3XL until now.
Ive been looking at OP and now that they have a true flagship I just ordered my 8 Pro TODAY!!! IT was finally in stock.
So my question is does the OP still have the features from Pixels like screening calls, screenshots from the assistant, etc?
Ill be doing some searches tonight...just trying to get some quick answers... a little excited.
TIA
thenewak said:
Whats up guys....its been forever since Ive had to root a phone due to having Pixel 1-3XL until now.
Ive been looking at OP and now that they have a true flagship I just ordered my 8 Pro TODAY!!! IT was finally in stock.
So my question is does the OP still have the features from Pixels like screening calls, screenshots from the assistant, etc?
Ill be doing some searches tonight...just trying to get some quick answers... a little excited.
TIA
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Good questions
thenewak said:
Whats up guys....its been forever since Ive had to root a phone due to having Pixel 1-3XL until now.
Ive been looking at OP and now that they have a true flagship I just ordered my 8 Pro TODAY!!! IT was finally in stock.
So my question is does the OP still have the features from Pixels like screening calls, screenshots from the assistant, etc?
Ill be doing some searches tonight...just trying to get some quick answers... a little excited.
TIA
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It doesn't have Pixel specific features like Call Screening, Recorder etc. But most, if not all, Google Assistant functionality is available on the OP8 Pro (as on many other devices)..
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It doesn't have Pixel specific features like Call Screening, Recorder etc. But most, if not all, Google Assistant functionality is available on the OP8 Pro (as on many other devices)..
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No Caller ID even?
masri1987 said:
No Caller ID even?
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The phone dialer app on the OP8 Pro is different than the Google dialer app so you don't get the standard features that the Pixel has.
I had OnePlus 7 pro and swapped to Pixel 4 XL. In overall Pixel is much better than any OnePlus device. As long as you don't really need ultra wide angel camera or 5g is not any reason to buy OnePlus. The difference between genuine Pixel software and Oxygen OS is so huge that using both is different experience, obviously genuine Android is far better in any aspect. Oxygen OS is Chinese crap which kills background activities like all Chinese Android skin and doesn't work stable enough. Finally you will have to flash buggy Pixel Experience rom and semi working Gcam mod instead for slightly better hardware which really not make difference in daily usage as long as the ultra wide lens or 5g is not absolutely must have for you.
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I had OnePlus 7 pro and swapped to Pixel 4 XL. In overall Pixel is much better than any OnePlus device. As long as you don't really need ultra wide angel camera or 5g is not any reason to buy OnePlus. The difference between genuine Pixel software and Oxygen OS is so huge that using both is different experience, obviously genuine Android is far better in any aspect. Oxygen OS is Chinese crap which kills background activities like all Chinese Android skin and doesn't work stable enough. Finally you will have to flash buggy Pixel Experience rom and semi working Gcam mod instead for slightly better hardware which really not make difference in daily usage as long as the ultra wide lens or 5g is not absolutely must have for you.
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I've owned a Pixel 4 XL and would still be owning it if it wasn't for the subpar battery life and the not too bright display. I'm not sure I understand your point about the Pixel's Android OS and Oxygen OS - they are probably the closest to stock Android (and the Pixel doesn't run "stock" Android but Google's slightly modified version of it). Have you tried any other manufacturers implementation of Android (One UI, Colour OS etc.) - they are way more different than Oxygen OS
I also think that you've forgotten about the Pixel also killing background activities in the past along with a slew of bugs that Google addressed over time - similar to what OnePlus will probably do.
Look, I'm not sticking up for OnePlus here - I think they did rush out a somewhat unfinished product. But I think Google did the same with the Pixel 4 XL and slapped it with some poor hardware decisions that cannot be fixed (No Ultrawide camera, small battery, 64GB base capacity and a relatively poor display).
Pixel line had so much potential and Google killed it with subpar hardware. Yes the software it's good but they also kill processes because of the baby battery. I was a nexus/ pixel only user, but Google left me no choice, and one plus is the only thing that could even come close to take it's place, and is a way better phone
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Pixel line had so much potential and Google killed it with subpar hardware. Yes the software it's good but they also kill processes because of the baby battery. I was a nexus/ pixel only user, but Google left me no choice, and one plus is the only thing that could even come close to take it's place, and is a way better phone
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I am in the SAME exact situation... Man, the days of crackflashing my galaxy nexus were suhweeeeeet. I am really looking forward to getting my OP8 Pro today and rooting it
Oneplus use designed battery capacity in marketing. In real world they use poor quality battery and to decrease degradation batteries are limited in software. E.X. In 7 Pro designed capacity is 4000 mAh for maximum voltage 4.4V but because of software limitation you cannot charge battery beyond about 4.3V. The real capacity is about 10% lower than declared. In Pixel 4 XL I noticed that new battery had 103 - 104% designed capacity. Finally on my 7 pro real battery capacity was over 200 mAh lower than on my Pixel 4 XL. In my opinion Pixel firmware is far better than Oxygen OS and the difference is really dramatic.
I came form a p4xl too to the op8p. Would love to get call screen. That's the only thing I am missing so far
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I had OnePlus 7 pro and swapped to Pixel 4 XL. In overall Pixel is much better than any OnePlus device. As long as you don't really need ultra wide angel camera or 5g is not any reason to buy OnePlus. The difference between genuine Pixel software and Oxygen OS is so huge that using both is different experience, obviously genuine Android is far better in any aspect. Oxygen OS is Chinese crap which kills background activities like all Chinese Android skin and doesn't work stable enough. Finally you will have to flash buggy Pixel Experience rom and semi working Gcam mod instead for slightly better hardware which really not make difference in daily usage as long as the ultra wide lens or 5g is not absolutely must have for you.
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Dammit, don't dissuade me from soending my money, lol. I was psyched to order this on preorder day but they ran out of stock before I could click 'check out'. Same for launch day. Now the shine has worn off since I've been waiting a couple weeks. Was gonna ship tomorrow but now I'm thinking of cancelling my order. I'm happy with my Note 10 plus but want the latest and greatest.
Oneplus 8 Pro has obviously noticeable better hardware in all aspects than Pixel 4. It's not bad bad at least my 7 Pro wasn't bad phone just software on my opinion is much better on Pixel. Some people doesn't care or install custom rom but since you try genuine Pixel you will notice difference.