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performance difference between 16 and 32 gb models?

I was wondering if any of you with access to both versions of the transformer have noticed a difference in performance between the different models? I heard that because of the larger capacity ssd, the 32gb version would perform better. Apparently due to the nature of solid state memory, the increased size should greatly increase performance. Does anyone know if ther's any merit to this?

ah crap, I'm sorry. I meant to post this in general. Could a mod please move it?

I have a 32GB here and a 16GB version. ( The 16GB is defective and will be shipped back to NCIX due to screen issues )
Both have stock HC 3.1 and the 16GB seems more snappy to me.

Digiguest said:
Both have stock HC 3.1 and the 16GB seems more snappy to me.
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Seriously? Maybe they use different memory modules from the 16 and 32 versions.
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I have not noticed any performance difference swapping between the two models. However I'll say this, my 16GB is running at 1.6ghz without a problem. My old 32GB would reset every time at 1.4ghz. Of course, it was running an older OC kernel so that might have been the problem. Who knows.

The difference is only the space for storing app installs, it won't help performance.

darkonex said:
The difference is only the space for storing app installs, it won't help performance.
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You can't know that for sure. Unless you have proof that each tablet uses the same exact memory/sd card storage, there could be a performance difference.

Have to say 4gb Ram is NOT enough!

I've owned the One Plus 5 the 8gb sys ram version and apps stay in memory for super quick access, the apps on my S8 plus constantly close and have to reload them back in memory, yes I've disabled close apps when idle, this phone is still randomly closing apps when it runs out of memory, whoever says a phone does not need more than 4gm ram is wrong, try the OP5.

4gb is not enough because of touchwiz ui. Oneplus has no skin. Its near stock ui. Thats why oneplus os takes less ram than touchwiz os.

Poojan Patel said:
4gb is not enough because of touchwiz ui. Oneplus has no skin. Its near stock ui. Thats why oneplus os takes less ram than touchwiz os.
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No, it has 1.5x to 2x the ram, that's why ...
Samsung galaxy S8/8+ = 4gb RAM, Oneplus5 = 6gb/8gb RAM.
Not too hard to see why it handles apps better...
Touchwiz probably doesn't help any but the extra RAM is the real reason...
Why do you think the Note 8 comes with 6gb RAM?

Poojan Patel said:
4gb is not enough because of touchwiz ui. Oneplus has no skin. Its near stock ui. Thats why oneplus os takes less ram than touchwiz os.
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And the fact it has twice the amount of ram helps also, was waiting for the pixel 2 but if they're are only going to use 4gm ram i'm not bothering.

ultramag69 said:
No, it has 1.5x to 2x the ram, that's why ...
Samsung galaxy S8/8+ = 4gb RAM, Oneplus5 = 6gb/8gb RAM.
Not too hard to see why it handles apps better...
Touchwiz probably doesn't help any but the extra RAM is the real reason...
Why do you think the Note 8 comes with 6gb RAM?
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Yep I agree, i'm really disappointed Samsung only used 4gb, I've just had to reload the android messages app twice in the last 10 mins! this did not happen on my mate 9 or the OP5, it's actually getting tiresome now seeing all the social apps have to reload back into ram, I really do miss the OP5 for that, I've turned off all closing apps when they are inactive for useless crap but still basic stuff is still closing down, play store, email, Instagram, android messages etc.

There is an option to lock apps to RAM if you dont want it having closed.

@Akram. How do you lock apps in RAM?

corwin_amber said:
@Akram. How do you lock apps in RAM?
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Click on recents button> 3 dot menu > lock apps
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Akram. said:
There is an option to lock apps to RAM if you dont want it having closed.
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Thanks I'll give that a go however I've tried these things before on other phones and they never worked.

Ady1976 said:
Yep I agree, i'm really disappointed Samsung only used 4gb, I've just had to reload the android messages app twice in the last 10 mins! this did not happen on my mate 9 or the OP5, it's actually getting tiresome now seeing all the social apps have to reload back into ram, I really do miss the OP5 for that, I've turned off all closing apps when they are inactive for useless crap but still basic stuff is still closing down, play store, email, Instagram, android messages etc.
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That's a hell lot of phones you used buddy!
Btw, what made you buy S8+ after OP5?
Lock apps is a good option as the basic tw settings don't allow lots of apps to be in RAM. That's why the idle battery life is the best on S series.

bluheart said:
That's a hell lot of phones you used buddy!
Btw, what made you buy S8+ after OP5?
Lock apps is a good option as the basic tw settings don't allow lots of apps to be in RAM. That's why the idle battery life is the best on S series.
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The OP5 had all sorts of issues, the main 1 for me was the jelly scrolling and camera not that great, but my mate 9 broke otherwise i was waiting for the pixel 2 which i may still get yet depending on how much they put in it, if it's like the rumours say 4gb then I'm not buying anything again unless it a minimum of 6gb ram, these social apps chew ram up and 4gb these days is useless!

bluheart said:
That's a hell lot of phones you used buddy!
Btw, what made you buy S8+ after OP5?
Lock apps is a good option as the basic tw settings don't allow lots of apps to be in RAM. That's why the idle battery life is the best on S series.
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LOL, only 2 phones. In the last 6 - 12 months I have bought -
1. Axon 7 - 6gb ram 128gb rom - great phone but took too long to unlock and I got bored with it.
2. ASUS Zenfone 3 Deluxe - 6gb ram 256gb rom - brilliant hardware, stock rom OK but a few bugs - unfortunately ASUS didn't release unlock tool until too late killing off developement.
3. Nokia 6 - 4gb ram 64gb rom - OK for a budget phone but again no bootloader unlock.... Bored now, NEXT...
4. One+5 - 8gb ram 128gb rom - really like it but running out of storage- at least the others I can put in an sd card...
5. Samsung Galaxy S8+ -4gb ram 64gb rom - got a bit cheaper so was in, still exploring stock rom so not rooted yet.
6. Samsung Galaxy Note 8 - 6gb ram 64gb rom - on pre-order... Awaiting judgement. Unfortunately living here in Oz it looks like I won't be getting my shiny new toy until mid October... Got grey import (love the description that it's Oz stock but then these things tend to come with an overseas plug with a cheap sh!tty plug adaptor) but it was approx. $300Aud cheaper than the ones avalable in shops here...
Also waiting for my Jellyphone pro, a really small android phone I got on Indigogo... So sue me, I'm a sucker for computers and phones....
Out of all these phones the Galaxy S8+ is pretty laggy in comparison, even the Nokia 6 is pretty decent in comparison. Hopefully the Note 8 is a bit faster and the extra RAM will push it back onto the top of the heap...

4gb is useless? Lol. Ok... Whatever you say...
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Yeah, I'm not really getting this assertion either. RAM is really only one component that would impact lag. The first of which would be the kernel and how CPU governor settings are applied. I consider myself a fairly heavy user, and I'm not at all upset by the response time of this phone.

Yes 4gb ram is not enough for the advancing technology of smartphones. 6gb or more is recommended.

ultramag69 said:
LOL, only 2 phones. In the last 6 - 12 months I have bought -
1. Axon 7 - 6gb ram 128gb rom - great phone but took too long to unlock and I got bored with it.
2. ASUS Zenfone 3 Deluxe - 6gb ram 256gb rom - brilliant hardware, stock rom OK but a few bugs - unfortunately ASUS didn't release unlock tool until too late killing off developement.
3. Nokia 6 - 4gb ram 64gb rom - OK for a budget phone but again no bootloader unlock.... Bored now, NEXT...
4. One+5 - 8gb ram 128gb rom - really like it but running out of storage- at least the others I can put in an sd card...
5. Samsung Galaxy S8+ -4gb ram 64gb rom - got a bit cheaper so was in, still exploring stock rom so not rooted yet.
6. Samsung Galaxy Note 8 - 6gb ram 64gb rom - on pre-order... Awaiting judgement. Unfortunately living here in Oz it looks like I won't be getting my shiny new toy until mid October... Got grey import (love the description that it's Oz stock but then these things tend to come with an overseas plug with a cheap sh!tty plug adaptor) but it was approx. $300Aud cheaper than the ones avalable in shops here...
Also waiting for my Jellyphone pro, a really small android phone I got on Indigogo... So sue me, I'm a sucker for computers and phones....
Out of all these phones the Galaxy S8+ is pretty laggy in comparison, even the Nokia 6 is pretty decent in comparison. Hopefully the Note 8 is a bit faster and the extra RAM will push it back onto the top of the heap...
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Wow didn't know AUD are cheaper then INR
But you get them as locked and cheaper so it's fine.
Anyways, enjoy till you get bored
Have fun! Jio jee bharke

bluheart said:
Wow didn't know AUD are cheaper then INR
But you get them as locked and cheaper so it's fine.
Anyways, enjoy till you get bored
Have fun! Jio jee bharke
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Nope, only if you get carrier specific phones will they be (sometimes) locked. Generally this is for cheap prepaid plan phones....
And the Aus dollar isn't cheaper... That's why we have grey imports....

Did anyone who has his phone rooted, try SWAP memory? Making a 2gb partition on the internal storage or even a good quality SD card.
I remember this was a thing few years ago, but everybody just forgot about it.

I agree that 4gb is not enough. Really notice the phone e slows down when downloading in the background
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Im fine, everything runs smooth. You prolly have to be a heavy user.
Who ever asked why Note8 has 6gb, thats an odd question to ask. After the last years N7 i dont think they wanted to take any chance and tried their best to give as much as they could. Although i still passed on it, 1500$ no thank you. Id rather walk around with my laptop.

Benefit from 8 GB RAM?

Hey guys,
I wanted to ask if there is a benefit in having 8gb of ram instead of 6? Is it even possible to use that much on a phone?
All I've read till now was that developers could fill it with something but I can't think of anything. So I'm just asking out of curiosity.
I don't want a comparison of the 6 and 8 gig RAM versions of the OP5. It's really just about the 8gigs of RAM.
Thanks in advance

User422 said:
Hey guys,
I wanted to ask if there is a benefit in having 8gb of ram instead of 6? Is it even possible to use that much on a phone?
All I've read till now was that developers could fill it with something but I can't think of anything. So I'm just asking out of curiosity.
I don't want a comparison of the 6 and 8 gig RAM versions of the OP5. It's really just about the 8gigs of RAM.
Thanks in advance
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OP5 is so far one of the fastest phone you can ever get. You can't make it lag. I hope I answer even a slight part of your question.

I don't think the phone being fast is related to the amount of RAM.
Apps will eventually start consuming more resources and 8GB RAM will become a necessity in the future.
You can survive with 2 too, but 4 seems to be the standard now; next year 6 and in about 2-3 years 8.

Just depends on how well the phone can manage its own memory. But by default some stuff like mobile games take a lot of ram. Upwards to 400-600mbs of ram for just one app. Maybe just cut down on those or just accept that your device cannot keep everything in memory. Its ok to reload apps that are insanely big.

Yousvel said:
OP5 is so far one of the fastest phone you can ever get. You can't make it lag. I hope I answer even a slight part of your question.
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Like I had already mentioned. It wasn't about the phone.
I do have an OP5 myself ^^
It was really just about the huge amount of RAM
But thanks for your answer anyway ^^

Pwnycorn said:
I don't think the phone being fast is related to the amount of RAM.
Apps will eventually start consuming more resources and 8GB RAM will become a necessity in the future.
You can survive with 2 too, but 4 seems to be the standard now; next year 6 and in about 2-3 years 8.
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I've heard that there are minimal difference between the two versions of the phone.

User422 said:
I've heard that there are minimal difference between the two versions of the phone.
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RAM is the only difference. Multitasking is better on the 8GB model though.

you phone will suffer from low cpu speed before ''needing'' 8gb of ram for 1 single operation.
Having multiple app running in the background makes the experience more fun, but the phone loads app fast enough anyway.
In fact, I'm using greenify, so no need of 8gb.
And a lot of cell phone user will change their phone before it will come slow, or really need 8gb. see pixel2 thread, a lot of people thinking about changing to pixel, what a waste...

User422 said:
Like I had already mentioned. It wasn't about the phone.
I do have an OP5 myself ^^
It was really just about the huge amount of RAM
But thanks for your answer anyway ^^
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more RAM = less loading.
this saves you time because the app stays loaded in RAM (no processing). this saves battery because the processor isn't having to work every time you open it. with 8GB, i almost never close apps.

It is easy to say that the more RAM you have, more the OS will use it, and this will make it more dynamic, therefore faster. But I think this is not perceptible for the user.
I have a 8 GB version and the device gets 5GB RAM to boot up... this would not happen in a 4GB RAM of course but this extra RAM usage do not reflect to more speed in a way you can see it...
The RAM management is more affected actually by the SO itself. I never use more than 7.5 GB RAM but my games never stay in memory for more than a day. I think OOS shuts them down after 24 hours not being used.....
This is a much more technical perception of how the device handle 8GB. I think its more a future proof quality then a advantage in todays processing.

1+6T - is 8GB RAM worth it?

Pretty much said it all in the title.... pretty much ready to pull the trigger on a 1+6T. The 128GB storage is fine for me but undecided on the 6 or 8GB RAM. Its not much difference in cost but will I notice any difference?

Personally I think that if the price difference doesn't matter to you then the 8GB version is worth the small difference. I had the 8GB version of the 5T and now I have the 8GB version of the 6T and absolutely love the extra ram.

It definitely can't hurt. Small price to pay in my opinion.

Midnight Blackk is worth it? Got mine this morning, with 8GB. Basicly only because I didn't like the fingerprint magnet which is the Mirror Black

I had an 8 gig op5, and a 6 gig op5t. There was no noticeable difference in performance since I never reached 6 GB of RAM usage let alone 8GB. If you don't mind spending the extra money, then sure 8 gigs is fine. But honestly you won't notice a difference in performance under normal and even somewhat heavy usage. You only notice the difference if you have several power-hungry apps open at the same time. Myself, I'm kind of OCD about closing out apps I'm not using to save battery life so obviously it doesn't affect me one way or the other.

for the money i will do every time. got to get the 8 gb 6t to go with my note 9 8gb lol it stores everything in ram though, so nice!

Well my device is averaging 4.2 gbs memory used, so I'm glad I got the 8.
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bill3508 said:
Well my device is averaging 4.2 gbs memory used, so I'm glad I got the 8.
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Unused Ram is wasted Ram. Unless you're hitting the 6 GB usage mark , you're still not going to notice a difference between 6 gig and 8 gig.

Slash8915 said:
Unused Ram is wasted Ram. Unless you're hitting the 6 GB usage mark , you're still not going to notice a difference between 6 gig and 8 gig.
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not true

I've used both, and there is very minor day-to-day difference. Unless you have a lot of dough, save some money and get the 6GB

For the extra $30? Absolutely! Even if you don't use it now it is still good to have in the future as the os and apps tend to use more as they get updated and become more complex.

If you get 256 gigs of storage they throw it in for free.

krabman said:
If you get 256 gigs of storage they throw it in for free.
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This. I wanted the 256GB version so, 8GB is standard.

I think the extra money is worth the 8gb but if your wanting more storage like me the 256GB version has 8gb and no 6gb, that's what I've ordered today.

Slash8915 said:
Unused Ram is wasted Ram. Unless you're hitting the 6 GB usage mark , you're still not going to notice a difference between 6 gig and 8 gig.
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With RAM file caching used in OP6/OP6T, you'll notice the difference. Unused RAM isn't unused, it's used as a cache.

Personally for me, it's not about the RAM. Yes the extra 2 gigs is nice, but in all reality, it'll probably never get used.
What swayed me to pay the extra $30 was the midnight black. After the extra bump in price, you get the choice between the 2 blacks, and the extra RAM.
Seemed like a fair deal to me, even though it'll stay in a case it's whole life :silly:

New galaxy s10 plus help needed..

So I recently bought a new s10 plus but I made a post about it already but I haven't received the phone so I didn't know anything about it, today I received the phone and checked the ram and its only 8GB is this normal or is it suppose to be like 12 or 10 GB ram? (my phone is 12 GB ram and 1 TB variant). Also, is the screen supposed to flicker a lot when it opens up the camera because mine do?

Download Device Info HW from the play.store and check the specs

Anything more than 6 gigs of RAM on an Android phone is nothing but a marketing gimmick. The vast majority of people don't need more than 6 gigs of RAM on a laptop--according to Microsoft the minimum RAM requirement to run Windows 10 is 1GB which is stretching it but 6GB is more than enough to provide an extremely smooth experience for anyone who isn't a power user. With that in mind what practical purpose could having 8GB or 12GB of RAM on an Android phone possibly serve?
The expanding RAM numbers were a gimmick to convince the gullible that they needed to purchase expensive new phones--these are the same kind of people who don't question why they need a higher resolution display on a phone with a 10" display than on a 55" television screen.
Now that more RAM and higher resolution are the norm the latest gimmick is smartphone displays with higher refresh rates. Most people won't actually be able to see any difference but that hardly matters if it sells phones.

seanteoh1999 said:
So I recently bought a new s10 plus but I made a post about it already but I haven't received the phone so I didn't know anything about it, today I received the phone and checked the ram and its only 8GB is this normal or is it suppose to be like 12 or 10 GB ram? (my phone is 12 GB ram and 1 TB variant). Also, is the screen supposed to flicker a lot when it opens up the camera because mine do?
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So you already stated you have purchased a 1TB 12GB ram s10.. and you received an 8GB ram s10? Where did you buy it from? I would bring it back since it may be the wrong one or it may be fake depending where you purchased it from.
How much did you pay for the device?

seanteoh1999 said:
So I recently bought a new s10 plus but I made a post about it already but I haven't received the phone so I didn't know anything about it, today I received the phone and checked the ram and its only 8GB is this normal or is it suppose to be like 12 or 10 GB ram? (my phone is 12 GB ram and 1 TB variant). Also, is the screen supposed to flicker a lot when it opens up the camera because mine do?
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It is possible the wrong product got delivered to you, If your order correctly states that your device should be a 12 GB variant, you need to do a RMA.
Just to be sure update your device, for checking your RAM, go to settings -> Device Care -> Memory. At the top it should list, there should a be a bar and just under it your used memory/total memory.
For checking storage, go to settings -> Device Care -> Storage. At the top it should list, there should a be a bar and just under it your used storage/total storage.
If either of these don't match your order, please check with the seller, you should only get what you paid for.
As for the screen flicker, it really shouldn't happen, on my device opening the camera app is a rather smooth animation.
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Anything more than 6 gigs of RAM on an Android phone is nothing but a marketing gimmick. The vast majority of people don't need more than 6 gigs of RAM on a laptop--according to Microsoft the minimum RAM requirement to run Windows 10 is 1GB which is stretching it but 6GB is more than enough to provide an extremely smooth experience for anyone who isn't a power user. With that in mind what practical purpose could having 8GB or 12GB of RAM on an Android phone possibly serve?
The expanding RAM numbers were a gimmick to convince the gullible that they needed to purchase expensive new phones--these are the same kind of people who don't question why they need a higher resolution display on a phone with a 10" display than on a 55" television screen.
Now that more RAM and higher resolution are the norm the latest gimmick is smartphone displays with higher refresh rates. Most people won't actually be able to see any difference but that hardly matters if it sells phones.
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Dude, what is your problem? OP asked for verifying the specs of his device and not a lecture on what is the appropirate amount of RAM according to you! Did you even read his question?

matt0323 said:
So you already stated you have purchased a 1TB 12GB ram s10.. and you received an 8GB ram s10? Where did you buy it from? I would bring it back since it may be the wrong one or it may be fake depending where you purchased it from.
How much did you pay for the device?
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Hi sir, I wasn't very clear , sorry.. i currently have 8.5 GB ram available with no apps opened and seller confirmed it was original although I am still afraid coz I bought it not from official shop. In us dollar it's about 800 usd but in my country it's Rm 3000.. I am not sure its suppose to have 12 GB of ram if I have no apps opened or is it normal to have 8.5 gb of ram bcoz it might eat some ram for the system to run so I opened this thread.

Android is designed to fill most of the RAM at all times. In simple terms, empty RAM is wasted RAM.
As you start using apps, Android will keep your most commonly used apps in RAM, so that they launch quickly each timeyou open them or switch between them.

seanteoh1999 said:
Hi sir, I wasn't very clear , sorry.. i currently have 8.5 GB ram available with no apps opened and seller confirmed it was original although I am still afraid coz I bought it not from official shop. In us dollar it's about 800 usd but in my country it's Rm 3000.. I am not sure its suppose to have 12 GB of ram if I have no apps opened or is it normal to have 8.5 gb of ram bcoz it might eat some ram for the system to run so I opened this thread.
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Well if you go to; Settings, Device Care, Memory. It tells you how much RAM you got..

matt0323 said:
Well if you go to; Settings, Device Care, Memory. It tells you how much RAM you got..
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oh.. yeah i got 12 gb.. Thx you very much