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Help:Can't get my mxpe activated on Verizon prepaid with sim starter pack.

Yesterday I bought a $50 starter pack from Verizon prepaid to get a sim card because my last phone didn't use a Sim. So I go to the store to get help activating it. They told me that I'd need to call cs because they didn't provide support for prepaid. So I called & everything went well until the tech had me to restart the phone & try o make a call. All I got was a notice to reboot my phone because there was an error. So the cs guy transferred me to tech support where I spent almost 2 hours on the phone with a lady that wasn't able to get the phone working. She kept telling me the phone wasnt in the system, even though the 1st guy added it with no problem. She then wrote up a ticket to escalate the issue to an advanced department & says they should figure something out in 48hrs. In the meantime I asked if I whould be credited these 3 days that I paid for & won't actually have service, answer: no. Smh.
Additional info my phone now shows the Verizon network & level of service in status bar. However it sometimes says no sim, emergency calls only.
If anyone has any suggestions at all as to what I can do or say to them to get this fixed it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance!

Did you try to do it online ? The website will see the imei number and should let you add it.
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I tried doing it online first & when that didn't work I called. I've still not heard anything from the uber tech ppl @ Verizon. The lady I spoke with didn't give me the ticket #, blue I'm wondering if it was actually submitted.

This may or may not help, but I had a time trying to get my XPE activated on VZW last week. I tried to activate it online, on the phone with Verizon, at a Verizon store and finally at Best Buy. The only reason the Best Buy guy helped me is that he and his roommate had recently bought one so he knew it would work.
I think in the end what it was is that the I and others were putting in the IMEI instead of the MEID. The IMEI is one digit longer and you need to use the shorter number. The guy at Best Buy said something to that effect in passing, but I did not follow up with him on it. Try using the MEID by going to About Phone->Status->IMEI Info and using the MEID for activating.
Another thing to note - if you get the MEID by typing in *#06# into the dialer keypad, it brings up the longer number, even though it says it is the MEID, it is really showing you the IMEI. Hopefully this helps someone.

I'm glad to hear you were able to get yours activated! Trying the MEID is a good suggestion, but it didn't work. That's the # requested when you try to activate online. I'm going to spend a few hours on the phone with tech support today & see if they have figured out a solution.

Maybe try calling back at a different time. I was SO reluctant to buy this phone only because I KNEW I’d end up having to call Verizon and deal with the support line. Amazingly, the first lady I talked to knew exactly what phone I was using and got it working in seconds. I'm on unlimited & she did her due diligence in trying to convert me to a different plan (unsuccessfully).
My connection and speed has been miserable at best though… My APN settings were on global, I switched it to CMDA 2 days ago, the connection has gotten faster/better. It's still unreliable though, I don't think I live in an area THAT saturated with Verizon customers... still trying to find a solution for constant/good connection/speeds. I’m not doing anything that would put me in the throttled group either… just slow-garbage connection. Not completely happy with the phone yet. *Completely stock.
Edit: By "I" I mean, "My wife's". This phone was my attempt to convert her from Apple and this situation isn't helping at all.

The trick is to activate the sim card, then put it in the MXP. If you can borrow someone's Verizon phone (i.e. They put their sim in your MXP to free their phone) then you should have no problem getting Verizon to activate a free and clear Verizon phone. Once activated just swap sims back.
I buy/sell/trade phones all the time (had my sim in 3 today). The only time I've had an issue activating on Verizon is when I messed up my sim and only had a Sprint/unlocked Nexus 6 to use at the moment. It took me hours to get a tech to activate. Finally he pulled up an old IMEI from my account and used that phone to activate my sim.
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I had trouble activating on prepaid aswell a store was nice enough to give me a sim card and I called and it took 2 representatives to activate and an old galaxy s3 meid I had laying around for some reason.

Jodsfk421 said:
Maybe try calling back at a different time. I was SO reluctant to buy this phone only because I KNEW I’d end up having to call Verizon and deal with the support line. Amazingly, the first lady I talked to knew exactly what phone I was using and got it working in seconds. I'm on unlimited & she did her due diligence in trying to convert me to a different plan (unsuccessfully).
My connection and speed has been miserable at best though… My APN settings were on global, I switched it to CMDA 2 days ago, the connection has gotten faster/better. It's still unreliable though, I don't think I live in an area THAT saturated with Verizon customers... still trying to find a solution for constant/good connection/speeds. I’m not doing anything that would put me in the throttled group either… just slow-garbage connection. Not completely happy with the phone yet. *Completely stock.
Edit: By "I" I mean, "My wife's". This phone was my attempt to convert her from Apple and this situation isn't helping at all.
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Verizon can't legally throttle you based on your unlimited data and/or monthly usage. They can and will, however, throttle you if you're in a congested area. Every time we go to sporting events, shows, or any type of big event where hundreds of phones are pinging the same tower my service crawls. At my home (in the country) I don't even use WiFi because my phone runs circles around my 60 MBPS Charter WiFi (which rarely/never sees 60 MBPS).
Do you live in the city, an apartment, anywhere that's congested?
Also, in case you weren't aware your bill will be going up $20 per line for every unlimited line not currently under contract. The cut off to get under contract was 11/15 so my 2 lines will cost me an extra $40 on my next billing cycle.
EDIT - Not sure of the legality of them throttling unlimited users but Verizon did try to implement that. They caught so much flak from users and the FCC, they opted to increase monthly charges and only throttle the top 1% of data users on any given tower during periods of heavy use.
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Had the same exact problem last weekend. Tried to do it online...wouldn't work. Went into the Verizon store and they couldn't do it either. They activated the sim in another phone, set up the account, then moved the sim to my phone and then ported my phone number over. Took almost two hours to get onto a prepaid plan.
This is only a problem if it's a new account/sim card. If you are pulling a sim from a previous phone, it goes smoothly.

magentacat said:
Yesterday I bought a $50 starter pack from Verizon prepaid to get a sim card because my last phone didn't use a Sim. So I go to the store to get help activating it. They told me that I'd need to call cs because they didn't provide support for prepaid. So I called & everything went well until the tech had me to restart the phone & try o make a call. All I got was a notice to reboot my phone because there was an error. So the cs guy transferred me to tech support where I spent almost 2 hours on the phone with a lady that wasn't able to get the phone working. She kept telling me the phone wasnt in the system, even though the 1st guy added it with no problem. She then wrote up a ticket to escalate the issue to an advanced department & says they should figure something out in 48hrs. In the meantime I asked if I whould be credited these 3 days that I paid for & won't actually have service, answer: no. Smh.
Additional info my phone now shows the Verizon network & level of service in status bar. However it sometimes says no sim, emergency calls only.
If anyone has any suggestions at all as to what I can do or say to them to get this fixed it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance!
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First of all the Pure may not work for pre-paid but it definitely works for post paid. However if you have it working then OK. As for your other issue try changing Settings > under Wireless & networks choose "More" > Cellular networks > Preferred network type > choose LTE/CDMA.
I used to leave mine on Global all the time until a few weeks ago I started getting a message similar if not the same as yours. Everything still worked OK but the error message would not go away no matter what I did...until I stopped using Global. Now I have not tested it recently to see if Global would work again but from reading about the Global setting it is really for when you are "global" that is, out of the country and roaming for a signal that can be used. While here in the USA as long as you have a decent signal for LTE/CDMA then no need for the phone to even try to connect. It should just do so automatically. Give it a try and report back.

What did you ask Verizon to do in order to get sms working

My 6t is arriving tomorrow and I'm hoping when I pop my Sim in everything will work. But sounds like most people are having to call Verizon.
My question is, for those of you who've done this successfully, what did you ask Verizon to do? Sounds like most of the techs don't really know about this phone so I wanted to see if there were any key words or phrases to try and get everything working.

I did online chat. Explained that I had rebooted, factory reset, deleted app cache and cache partition. They sent me to tier 2 (actually had to call). On hold there now. Told them all my trouble shooting and told them that I needed CDMA-less provisioning. He said that sounded right and is supposed to be working on it now. It's taking forever though.

natypes said:
I did online chat. Explained that I had rebooted, factory reset, deleted app cache and cache partition. They sent me to tier 2 (actually had to call). On hold there now. Told them all my trouble shooting and told them that I needed CDMA-less provisioning. He said that sounded right and is supposed to be working on it now. It's taking forever though.
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I've seen some people say that they dialed into the phone info and set network type as LTE only and it worked. Did you try that??

No, but I need to. They told me it would be fixed in 3 business days.

Well currently I'm on v20 RN mine 6t will be here tomorrow...hope it work right out box without issue but if not then got to fight with verizon :'))

Textra isn't working either. Any suggestions for 3 days until they get it fixed? My Pixel 2 XL is on swappa and my Pixel 3 XL needs to go back to Google for refund.

natypes said:
Textra isn't working either. Any suggestions for 3 days until they get it fixed? My Pixel 2 XL is on swappa and my Pixel 3 XL needs to go back to Google for refund.
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What exactly isn't working with Textra? Is it just because of the issues with SMS through Verizon or is there a problem specific to the app?

So what exactly is the issue ? Do I need CDMA- less provisioning ? Or for it to be removed?

handman29 said:
So what exactly is the issue ? Do I need CDMA- less provisioning ? Or for it to be removed?
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Most of the issues is one plus screwed up. They never gave vzw imei #'s for their Network. Either that, or vzw screwed up, and just didn't do it. Here I have a non working phone, and I'm supposed to wait up to 3 days, for Verizon to HOPEFULLY enter my imei into the system. Not happening, I am sending phone back. What a disaster. I wonder why I'm still on vzw. Nothing but headaches.

Here it is in a nutshell:
The 6T only supports LTE on Verizon's network. Verizon still uses CDMA for things like SMS on most phones. In order for their systems to use LTE for your SMS messages you have to have the "CDMA_LESS" provision added to your SIM card. In order to do this your phone must be registered correctly as a "ONEPLUS 6T" in their systems. It seems that either Verizon or Oneplus goofed and not all 6T's are in their system. If you phone registers as a generic device, they will not be able to add the "CDMA_LESS" provisioning.
For some, like myself, it was a simple call to tech support to add the CDMA_LESS provisioning since my phone registered properly on their network as a "ONEPLUS 6T 8/128". Those who's 6T's do not register properly due to their IMEI not being in Verizon's database will have to wait for it to be added.

clabern said:
Here it is in a nutshell:
The 6T only supports LTE on Verizon's network. Verizon still uses CDMA for things like SMS on most phones. In order for their systems to use LTE for your SMS messages you have to have the "CDMA_LESS" provision added to your SIM card. In order to do this your phone must be registered correctly as a "ONEPLUS 6T" in their systems. It seems that either Verizon or Oneplus goofed and not all 6T's are in their system. If you phone registers as a generic device, they will not be able to add the "CDMA_LESS" provisioning.
For some, like myself, it was a simple call to tech support to add the CDMA_LESS provisioning since my phone registered properly on their network as a "ONEPLUS 6T 8/128". Those who's 6T's do not register properly due to their IMEI not being in Verizon's database will have to wait for it to be added.
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Unfortunately we are at their mercy. Alot of Imei number will get lost in the shuffle. I am just returning my 6t. Not worth the aggravation.

What happens when you go back to another phone with CDMA? Do you lose the provisions for it forever or do you gain access back?
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Verizon will be shutting down their CDMA network sometime in 2019. So in a year, this won't be an issue anymore.

oneandroidnut said:
What happens when you go back to another phone with CDMA? Do you lose the provisions for it forever or do you gain access back?
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Well, cdma does dtill work, but texts will not work if you only have cdma. Calls do though.

Had the no sms issue on one of my lines called tech asked them to provision cdma less feature they did and within a few second all my texts started flooding in. Been using it all day with zero issues.

Ok here's what I did;
Switch the verizon Sim to sim2 slot.
Call Verizon at 8009220204
Get to customer service option
Tell them about the sms issue and have them add cdma_less option
They will add in 5mins, then they will send sms to test.
All works now. Also, the visual voicemail is intergrated into phone app. No more another app like in Samsung.
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I contacted Verizon today and told them "about the sms issue and have them add cdma_less option" like previously posted. She flipped the switch and had me reboot. Texts are working perfectly. Pretty easy fix. As always thanks for the info.

Had zero issues, followed the portion of the article here like a normal upgrade
https://www.droid-life.com/2018/11/06/oneplus-6t-verizon-sms-issues/
"My Verizon>My Device>Activate or Switch Device>Activate On an Existing Line"
punched my 6T imei in, swapped sim from note 9 into 6T and sms/mms sending and receiving working and over 100 mbps on first speedtest! Needless to say I am pretty happy so far!

Yamvmax1 said:
Unfortunately we are at their mercy. Alot of Imei number will get lost in the shuffle. I am just returning my 6t. Not worth the aggravation.
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Seems I found an easy solution - I enrolled in Verizon Integrated Messaging. After 3 day's I got an SMS (and before that SMS did not work!) :
ZW Free Msg: Welcome to Integrated Messaging! Starting now, your messages will be synced across your Verizon Messages devices-including phone, web & tablet access! Visit www.vzw.com/vzmessages for more info.
And all SMS started to work over LTE!

[DISCUSSION] Verizon Prepaid and OnePlus 6T

Greetings,
Although there are already a few threads here on XDA about the experiences and difficulties of getting a Oneplus 6T fully functional on Verizon Wireless, the reason for creating THIS thread is the lack of information currently out there for Verizon Wireless PREPAID customers.
To sum up, simply popping a Verizon SIM into a 6T will often yield a phone that cannot receive SMS/MMS messages, despite the OnePlus 6T being Verizon- certified. There are a few ways to fix this, such as getting a savvy Verizon Tier2 customer service rep to enable or provision CDMA_Less on your account for that SIM.
What is currently not clear is whether such methods apply to Verizon PREPAID customers, who appear to be afterthoughts to Verizon customer care from my reading of many nightmare experience posted online.
This thread is for people who want to use the OnePlus 6T with Verizon Prepaid. To help others who are in the same Big Red boat, please post your experiences -- what worked, what didn't, etc.
The following links are for reference on this circumstance:
https://www.reddit.com/r/verizon/comments/9uizn1/oneplus_6t_activation_help_employees_help/
https://www.reddit.com/r/verizon/comments/9ur5mj/help_verizon_prepaid_oneplus_6t/

The process overall was a bit more difficult than Postpaid as I was told by the store rep that they had the option to enable CDMA-less on their end whereas with Prepaid it had to be done either via chat or through phone. Chat did not go anywhere for me.
Was chatting with the Verizon rep for 1+ hours and she tried to turn ON the CDMA-less feature which she did, but did not turn ON the HD-Voice. This made my calls not to go through but texts were working.
Went to the store and put in a brand new Verizon Prepaid SIM card, and was back to the same issue. No texts, only calls.
Called Verizon prepaid customer care and finally one knowledgable rep, tried and resolved the issue for me. He worked with me for about an hour. As per him, he did exactly what the chat rep did, except that he turned ON both the CDMA-less and HD-Voice feature. Also, since it kept showing both the SIM and the device were incompatible, he tried to associate the SIM/IMEI to a dummy and then turned ON CDMA-less + HD-Voice and then associated the actual SIM with the actual device IMEI. Throughout this whole process I had another phone with active line and the rep was on this line.
All in all, not a good experience. I'd think a device manufacturer would ensure such basic functionality of texting and calling would work perfectly fine with approved networks before shipping out the device. I guess not. Other than this issue, I'm happy with the device so far.

satpakCA said:
As per him, he did exactly what the chat rep did, except that he turned ON both the CDMA-less and HD-Voice feature. Also, since it kept showing both the SIM and the device were incompatible, he tried to associate the SIM/IMEI to a dummy and then turned ON CDMA-less + HD-Voice and then associated the actual SIM with the actual device IMEI.
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Thanks for taking the time to post this....
Your experience in successfully activating Verizon Prepaid seems to correspond with one of the experiences linked in the OP wherein:
- The OP 6T IMEI was found "not compatible".
- Verizon Prepaid Care could NOT add the IMEI directly (unlike regular, postpaid Verizon care which could contact Engineering, sometimes 2-4 days, but sometimes immediately).
HERE'S THE ESSENTIAL WORKAROUND:
- The requirement of ANOTHER device (like a Pixel) IMEI that could be provisioned with CDMA_Less and HD-Voice. Once these features were successfully turned on for thisSIM
- The SIM could be added/associated with the OP 6T IMEI and then everything worked on Verizon Prepaid.
Out of curiosity, would you mind specifying the color, RAM, and storage capacity of your 6T? (It appears that different models of the 6T show up in Verizon's IMEI database)

reaper000 said:
Out of curiosity, would you mind specifying the color, RAM, and storage capacity of your 6T? (It appears that different models of the 6T show up in Verizon's IMEI database)
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No worries. Midnight Black/8GB/128gb. MyVerizon app shows it as 8/256GB version and I did ask Verizon Rep to change it and he said he will try, but was happy that he got the texting working for me. So I left it there.

hmmm feels like joining AA meeting.
hi, my name is akmsr and i am a verizon prepaid customer with oneplus 6T. its been 3 days without working sms/mms even after three sessions of calls/chats. the crushing feeling of being the second step-child is worsening........

I have a Nexus 6P that I am upgrading. Could they add the CDMA less and HD voice to it and then I can just swap the SIMs and activate the OP6T?

ybbad? said:
I have a Nexus 6P that I am upgrading. Could they add the CDMA less and HD voice to it and then I can just swap the SIMs and activate the OP6T?
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I would absolutely try that!
I'm about to try the same thing with an even older Nexus 6.
So If I were in your position, this is what I would do:
Once you have your Oneplus 6T in hand, ask Verizon Care to turn on CDMA-less and HD-Voice. You might have to walk into a corporate Verizon store or keep calling Care until you get someone knowledgeable. (I wouldn't do it before having the 6T in hand because it may be screw up service on your Nexus)
Or you try and do it yourself -- assuming as a Prepaid customer you have the same access to your account online that a Postpaid/regular Verizon customer does, per
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6t/help/verizon-to-to-sms-t3863352/post78089729
Note: nothing mentioned about HD-Voice, which may be on by default for Postpaid customers.
Once CDMA-less and HD-Voice are turned on, then switch out the SIM to your 6T. If it works fully (calls, data, send AND receive text), great!
If it doesn't work fully, then call Verizon Care again to associate the SIM with your 6T IMEI.
Hope it works out for you, and let us know...

akmsr said:
hmmm feels like joining AA meeting.
hi, my name is akmsr and i am a verizon prepaid customer with oneplus 6T. its been 3 days without working sms/mms even after three sessions of calls/chats. the crushing feeling of being the second step-child is worsening........
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Shouldn't need a support group, right?
But my experience with Verizon is that Prepaid customers are treated like unwanted stepchildren.
So support group it is.

akmsr said:
hmmm feels like joining AA meeting.
hi, my name is akmsr and i am a verizon prepaid customer with oneplus 6T. its been 3 days without working sms/mms even after three sessions of calls/chats. the crushing feeling of being the second step-child is worsening........
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Unfortunately,right or wrong (definitely wrong) that's life w/pre-paid service:
1st to feel the effects of network prioritization & little to no meaningful customer care.

reaper000 said:
assuming as a Prepaid customer you have the same access to your account online
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You don't. The online options are different. There's a "Change Device" option but if you try to switch online, you get an error message about an incompatibility between SIM and phone. You can switch using the automated prepaid customer support line but the texting problem occurs. Between the agents at the prepaid customer support calling center and online customer support chat, I have spent over five hours in the last 2 days trying to get it to work. I've explained that both CDMA_LESS and HDVOICE calling features need to be enabled. Either they fixed incoming SMS and ruined voice calling or reenabled voice calls but ruined incoming SMS.
I switched back to my old phone and SIM. Since my old phone is a Samsung S5 that takes a micro-SIM, I will try looking for the extra plastic I disposed of around the nano-SIM to make it a micro-SIM, re-enable the new SIM in the old phone, transfer the new SIM to Oneplus and see if that fixes it.

Nsane457 said:
You don't. The online options are different. There's a "Change Device" option but if you try to switch online, you get an error message about an incompatibility between SIM and phone.
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I switched back to my old phone and SIM. Since my old phone is a Samsung S5 that takes a micro-SIM, I will try looking for the extra plastic I disposed of around the nano-SIM to make it a micro-SIM, re-enable the new SIM in the old phone, transfer the new SIM to Oneplus and see if that fixes it.
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Thanks for the information, please let us know if your S5 (another device) workaround does the trick...
Good luck!

reaper000 said:
I would absolutely try that!
I'm about to try the same thing with an even older Nexus 6.
So If I were in your position, this is what I would do:
Once you have your Oneplus 6T in hand, ask Verizon Care to turn on CDMA-less and HD-Voice. You might have to walk into a corporate Verizon store or keep calling Care until you get someone knowledgeable. (I wouldn't do it before having the 6T in hand because it may be screw up service on your Nexus)
Or you try and do it yourself -- assuming as a Prepaid customer you have the same access to your account online that a Postpaid/regular Verizon customer does, per
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6t/help/verizon-to-to-sms-t3863352/post78089729
Note: nothing mentioned about HD-Voice, which may be on by default for Postpaid customers.
Once CDMA-less and HD-Voice are turned on, then switch out the SIM to your 6T. If it works fully (calls, data, send AND receive text), great!
If it doesn't work fully, then call Verizon Care again to associate the SIM with your 6T IMEI.
Hope it works out for you, and let us know...
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reaper000 said:
Thanks for the information, please let us know if your S5 (another device) workaround does the trick...
Good luck!
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Nope. I'm done with Verizon. Switching in the next few days.
Verizon: Thank you for contacting the Verizon Wireless Chat Team. To better assist you please enter your question below.
You: Activate device
Verizon: All Chat reps are currently helping other customers. You'll be connected as soon as possible.
Marcus: Hi there! This is Marcus here, gladly chatting with you
Marcus: Thank you for contacting Verizon Prepaid Wireless Care!
Marcus: You reached the right person to help with the activation. I know how important this can be for you.
Marcus: Could you please confirm the phone number we are working on?
You: ***-***-****
You: Over the last 3 days I've talked to Verizon reps to get my Oneplus 6T to work with voice and incoming text messages. The only thing to try is to switch a new sim to my Samsung S5, enable CDMA_ROAM and HDVOICE, and then move the SIM to my Oneplus 6T.
Marcus: I see.
Marcus: Don't you worry, you reached the right person to check on the device and help getting it activated. I know how important this can be for you.
Marcus: For security purposes, would you please verify Account Security Code on file?
You: ****
Marcus: Thank you very much.
Marcus: May I please have the device ID (IMEI) and the SIM card number (ICCID) from the phone you would like activated. The IMEI and ICCID numbers can be found on the phone under Settings > About > Status.
Marcus: Nice phone by the way.
Marcus: I'm sorry. I haven't heard from you.
You: The IMEI of the Samsung is **************. SIM # is *****************.
Marcus: Thank you for that information.
Marcus: Just to confirm, you want to activate the 1+ 6T or the Samsung?
You: I want to activate the Samsung S5 with CDMA_LESS and HDVOICE features added. Then I want to move the SIM to the Oneplus 6T and see if Voice and SMS works.
Marcus: In this case, would it be better to provide me with the Oneplus 6T IMEI to add it on the account and confirm how the activation goes instead?
You: I have done that at least 8 times in the last 3 days, so no. First the S5.
Marcus: At your command.
Marcus: On it now.
Marcus: In the meantime, how is everything going today?
You: Ok.
Marcus: Glad to know that.
Marcus: You can turn the Samsung off and back on to activate it with the new sim card.
You: OK. Give me 2 minutes.
Marcus: Sure.
Marcus: I'm still with you.
You: It worked in my S%. Moved the sim to my OnePlus. Voice works but incoming sms still doesn't. I can give you my OnePlus IMEI if you want but I have no luck.
Marcus: Sure, in the meantime, you can go to settings, to do a reset network settings.
Marcus: For previous android version this is found under backup and reset. For recent ones it's under general management, then click on reset.
You: I don't see it. I'm using Android version 9 I believe.
Marcus: Bear with me a moment, please.
Marcus: When you go to settings, what is the first option you see.
You: I've restored default APN settings. I don't know if thats the same thing.
Marcus: Is it Connection or Air plane mode?
You: ok. Ive turned Air Plane mode off and on.
Marcus: I wanted to know what the first option is.
Marcus:
Marcus: Could you please confirm what the first option you see when you open your Oneplus 6T is?
Marcus: For me know to have a better idea.
You: Wi-Fi & internet
Marcus: Please scroll down and let me know if you see backup & reset.
You: No. There is a Backup option under the "Google" setting but no backup & reset setting.
Marcus: Please go back to settings, then let me know if you see an option named general management.
You: no.
Marcus: When you scroll down to the bottom, what is the last option do you see?
You: Why don't you call the Verizon contract customer service agents to help you since this is a known easily fixed issue with Onepus 6T that prepaid agents are still struggling with? The last option is "About phone".
Marcus: In my department I can only chat, besides we don't have this phone on our system yet. In other words, even though you would call over the phone, you would still be our eyes.
Marcus: Please bear with till we figure this out.
Marcus: Could you please turn the phone off then turn it back on?
You: OK. Voice still works, incoming messages still don't.
Marcus: Now, let's go back to settings and confirm the first 4 options you see.
Marcus: Before you tap on any other button*
You: "Wi-Fi & internet", "Bluetooth & device connection", "Display", "Apps & notifications"
Marcus: Thank you for that information.
Marcus: Allow me to provide you with a link that may have the instructions on how to do a reset network setting on the phone
Marcus: By the way, would that be ok doing a factory reset as well?
You: Sure.
Marcus: Great!
Marcus: Please Click Here to check on the reset.
Marcus: Please let me know if it was helpful.
You: That didn't help but I searched for the option "reset" on the phone and found "Reset Wi-Fi, mobile & bluetooth". I reset.
Marcus: Wonderful!
Marcus: That's the one.
Marcus: You can and and follow the prompts.
Marcus: Is there another one that says reset settings as well?
You: "Reset Wi-Fi, mobile $ bluetooth" , "Reset app preferences" and "Erase-all preferences"
You: Erase all data I mean
Marcus: Let's just erase all to do the factory reset. Is there anything on the phone that you didn't want to lose?
You: No. It's new.
You: OK. Erasing everything.
Marcus: Perfect!
Marcus: I really appreciate your time and patience working on it.
Marcus: You can setup the language and country, then you google account. After that select, set as new.
Marcus: The other options will be optional and will allow you to skip or do later.
You: OK. Dame problem. I have voice and data but no incoming messages. I know that the voice needs to connect through CDMA LTE with HDVOICE and the SMS messaging needs CDMA_LESS provisioning and can't go through CDMA. If that's set up and it doesn't work then there is nothing that can be done and I'll have to leave Verizon.
You: *Same
Marcus: What application do you use to send and receive texts?
Marcus: We will try different options.
You: Basic android messaging. Because your asking me that, it shows that you're not familiar with the issue specific to the device. It is a provisioning problem on your end.
Marcus: What happens is that there is many apps you can use to texts and one of them is our messaging app named message+.
Marcus: I'm confident that every is good on our end and will do everything possible to help you get a resolution. Could you please go to play store, download message+ and try to send a text again?
You: I have a phone that is certified to work with Verizon. It is new. It is unlocked and not carrier branded. I don't want Message+. I bought this phone so I could avoid your branded apps.
Marcus: And I respect that, I believe that is your phone and you have the right to do what you would like on it.
You: I'm confident that everything is not good on your end. I'm confident because of how many users with contract have this issue fixed and how many with prepaid don't.
Marcus: However, I would like to make check all the possible option to help you send and receive text. Another good option is to install facebook messenger on your phone and set it as your default message app like the regular message app the phone came with. Is that better for you?
You: Messenger+ is designed to use wifi when available so I don't want that. I want incoming sms fixed. Not a bandaid.
Marcus: How you feel right now is totally understandable, I understand that you may have had a negative interaction with one of our agents that could create this feeling. Right now, I'm focus on getting a resolution to help you. The facebook messenger can be used without Wi-Fi when you set it up as default messaging app.
You: Is it that you don't understand that the Facebook messenger app, like messenger+, uses wifi when available? I don't want that.
Marcus: I have use them myself just a few weeks ago.
Marcus: Used*
Marcus: It happens sometimes that the regular message app the phone came with experience some difficulties to work, trying a different message app can be helpful in that sense. There is more than 10 messaging apps on play store that you can use, like hangouts or tango.
You: Installing google messenger now, instead of Oneplus stock.
Marcus: You meant Facebook messenger?
You: I'm not installing anything from Facebook. Switched sms to the new app. Nothing.
Marcus: What error did you get when you try to send the text?
You: No error. Outgoin works. When someone tries to send to me they also get no error but I don't get the message.
Marcus: I sent 2 texts to your number did you get them?
You: No. I've been sending to myself but no messages. When an agent enables CDMA_LESS and it works, I suddenly get all messages but then voice doesn't work.
Marcus: Do you get the same issue when you use the Samsung phone?
You: No. This is my problem https://www.droid-life.com/2018/11/06/oneplus-6t-verizon-sms-issues/ https://www.androidauthority.com/verizon-oneplus-6t-how-to-922365/ . All solutions seem to work for contract customers but not prepaid customers.
Marcus: I see.
Marcus: This can be because prepaid and regular plans (postpaid) works on a different network. When a phone is just recently released it is available for our regular plans first then the prepaid version is built.
Marcus: As you can see I'm the 4th agent to work on this with you and the issue still persist while you don't have the same with the samsung phone.
Marcus: It's the phone that is not yet compatible with our prepaid network.
You: Thank you for your time. I'm receiving a SIM card from Unreal Mobile for $10 a month in the next few days. Until then I'll have to put the sim in my Samsung and leave Verizon in a few days.
Marcus: What you could do is wait till we have this phone available on our prepaid network to do a trade in. Basically changing it for a prepaid version when available as we don't have this phone yet on our network. Or you can change to a postpaid plan, the bright side is that being a prepaid customer already you can have a postpaid plan with no contracts attached.
You: No thanks. Bye.
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First, @Nsane457, thank you for posting the entire transcript -- outstanding to have all that info. But wow....
That. Was. HIDEOUS.
Totally horrendous (but unfortunately, completely believable) that Verizon "certifies" a phone... but for ONLY their postpaid customers.
You'd think that Verizon's vaunted certification (which a OnePlus executive said took a year to get for the 6T) applies to ALL the plans Verizon offers so unabashedly on their website.
Would you mind sharing what model of 6T you have (color, ram, storage)? Still trying to see if that makes a difference in successful Vzw activation...

reaper000 said:
First, @Nsane457, thank you for posting the entire transcript -- outstanding to have all that info. But wow....
That. Was. HIDEOUS.
Totally horrendous (but unfortunately, completely believable) that Verizon "certifies" a phone... but for ONLY their postpaid customers.
You'd think that Verizon's vaunted certification (which a OnePlus executive said took a year to get for the 6T) applies to ALL the plans Verizon offers so unabashedly on their website.
Would you mind sharing what model of 6T you have (color, ram, storage)? Still trying to see if that makes a difference in successful Vzw activation...
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OnePlus 6T Midnight Black 8GB RAM + 128GB Storage

Nsane457 said:
You don't. The online options are different. There's a "Change Device" option but if you try to switch online, you get an error message about an incompatibility between SIM and phone. You can switch using the automated prepaid customer support line but the texting problem occurs. Between the agents at the prepaid customer support calling center and online customer support chat, I have spent over five hours in the last 2 days trying to get it to work.
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this is correct, in a change device option. you get to input new verizon device id (imei for android) and reason for switch. then you get the unspecified compatibility error. so it seems only the phones that verizon sells are allowed for switch.

has anyone tried installing my verizon and verizons version of messaging app to see if it works? just saying.....

[probably solved] verizon prepaid and oneplus 6T fiasco
hi fellow members,
the fiasco of no sms/mms is probably solved without calling/chatting with useless prepaid tech support( not knocking the hard working helpful people, just the retarded greedy mofo company they work for for limiting tech's ability to heal us). at least its working for me for the last half hour. i made several phone calls back and forth with 2 different friends, multiple texts also back and forth and mms too. as a matter of fact i turned on the hotspot, tethered my laptop and writing this post from laptop. also received 2 phonecalls and called back while writing this.
8gb/256gb version, used sim1 (furthest from the handle).
sent myself couple of text and one picture. as usual nothing. asked a friend for text, also nothing. went to dialer---- *#*#4636#*#* that took me to phone info. i changed the preferred network to lte/td-scdma within couple of seconds it got signal and some spaces started filling in with data. showed my phone number imei etc. showed voice is connected but data was disconnected. so with trial and error i figured out that the usual menu option in android (3 dots in upper right corner) has option to enable data. boom data is connected, signal shows lte and volte. there is a button to run ping test. after clicking all three tests passed. at the bottom left of the page there was a career provisioning something. i hit it for good measure :laugh::laugh: 2 options were on automatically, but voice over wifi was greyed out, backed out of that page and all texts images poured in. i called and exchanged texts since then success.
so why probably in the title?
1. you guys should try it and see if it works for you.
2. i was so happy i wanted to share first. i have not rebooted the phone since, dont know if it is going to stick
good luck to us all.
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success for me. i rebooted, sent myself 1 text. 1 image, worked. tethering again and posting this.
@reaper000
if it works for you could you please change the title of thread so other people can notice thanks.

I tried my wife's Verizon prepaid sim card and volte and SMS works in my phone. Didn't do anything just popped the Sim in. Though voice over WiFi didn't work.
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How about adding another layer to this stinky onion. I'm on TotalWireless, a Verizon prepaid MVNO.
I cannot get anywhere with support. I spent 5 hours troubleshooting this yesterday and another 3 today. I've been on the phone and in chats with some of the most incompetent people I've ever had the opportunity of encountering. I tried with every ounce of my being to be civil and amicable with them, but they have managed to get me to the verge of a blind rage.
They are now rufusing to help me for 72 hours because "you have called in too many times about this issue and it's not fixed so we have made a note on your account to wait 72 hours to see if it is resolved." When I called in the last time the agent gave me the silent treatment, when I then asked to speak with a representative about canceling the account because of how bad the experience has been she said to please wait and I listened to call center background noises and typing while she continued to give me the silent treatment for 5 minutes. Then I hung up.
This is a serious issue with Verizon not having their crap together with LTE only unlocked devices, but I also think this is partly on OnePlus, because being on an MVNO I'm locked out of creating a APN in OxygenOS when Verizon is the defualt APN on the SIM. I had to unlock my bootloader, root, and use a third party tool to create the APN. I can also pop my SIM into my wife's Essential PH-1 and not have an issue, so OnePlus is missing some programming somewhere I think that makes this much harder than it has to be.

SamClem said:
How about adding another layer to this stinky onion. I'm on TotalWireless, a Verizon prepaid MVNO.
I cannot get anywhere with support. I spent 5 hours troubleshooting this yesterday and another 3 today. I've been on the phone and in chats with some of the most incompetent people I've ever had the opportunity of encountering. I tried with every ounce of my being to be civil and amicable with them, but they have managed to get me to the verge of a blind rage.
They are now rufusing to help me for 72 hours because "you have called in too many times about this issue and it's not fixed so we have made a note on your account to wait 72 hours to see if it is resolved." When I called in the last time the agent gave me the silent treatment, when I then asked to speak with a representative about canceling the account because of how bad the experience has been she said to please wait and I listened to call center background noises and typing while she continued to give me the silent treatment for 5 minutes. Then I hung up.
This is a serious issue with Verizon not having their crap together with LTE only unlocked devices, but I also think this is partly on OnePlus, because being on an MVNO I'm locked out of creating a APN in OxygenOS when Verizon is the defualt APN on the SIM. I had to unlock my bootloader, root, and use a third party tool to create the APN. I can also pop my SIM into my wife's Essential PH-1 and not have an issue, so OnePlus is missing some programming somewhere I think that makes this much harder than it has to be.
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You are not alone...im a Verizon user even it not a pre-pair i cant even get verizon work property on my device while other got it work property...i experience that first day i received device pop verizon sim on it everything work then a day later completely gone no signal nothing...so i swap my sim to slot 2 and services come back...but today nah both of them gone cant make either,slot,work...went to verizon store,got new,sim...but didn't work out either...seem like Verizon block my sim but when i swap,to,my old device,everything work...kinda weird...but imma return the device tomorrow cant be more frustrating...hope everything work out for,you!

Google Fi

Anyone currently using this on Google Fi? How do you like the service and how is the phone performing?

LG G6 (VS988 Verizon Variant BOOOO) but on Google Fi
The service is awesome. I switch back and forth between T-Mobile and Google Fi SIMs. My phone is a bad example because even though I paid for it outright and I left Verizon only after my contract ended, I cannot install an unlocked bootloader or root my device and as far as I know this is a Verizon thing only, (meaning Verizon special crafted the Android OS before putting it out so as to prevent people from actually having that 100 percent ownership feeling.) However the data and everything is good. Start out slow, order your SIM through Google Fi (if they ask say you have the LG G7, trust me, they'll refuse to activate the G6 so I had to call back and lie and sure enough it worked. After I got my SIM in the mail (all over the web via the Fi website,) I popped it in, my phone asked for a restart because it has a new SIM, restarted phone and installed the Google Fi app from Play Store, a few seconds later and one more restart and the APNs all changed themselves, phone was in Global mode and zooming away. And...tsk tsk...I haven't paid for service yet but maybe it's because my phone is all locked up to Verizon but they are not recording any data usage for me neither so I have free service through Fi. THAT BEING SAID, I am a huge fan and patron to Google and their services so I'm going to call and get this issue resolved. I'm sure it's just that they need my IMEI or something of that sort. If you have any other variant of the LG G6, first off, congrats for not going through Verizon like I did and never being able to root/ADB bloatware and etc., and two, give it a shot. You can get your SIM and start using the service (talk/text at least) before paying anything and of course it's month to month so no commitment.
Oh ya! I also noticed, rather this is intentional on Google's part or not, that my Mobile Hotspot feature works as well If you have anymore specific questions feel free to let me know!

Thanks for the reply. I'm guessing that you started before November as they have now opened the program up to other phones including the G6. (Mine is an unlocked T-Mobile one, which I am on now, so should work fine as I will still be using T-Mobil's towers.)

I realize this is an old post, but wondering if you are still using fi with the LG G6. I am wondering if root will give me the ability to auto-switch between the 3 networks. It's a deal breaker for me if I'm stuck with just TMobile's network. I have the US Cellular variant.
Thanks.

AT&T forcing me to abandon my Galaxy S8!

Hello,
I am new to this site, and have a burning question I am trying to find an answer for.
So AT&T has been my carrier since about 2014. In July of 2019, I purchased an unlocked S8 from Amazon for about $350 Description says it is: Samsung Galaxy S8 64GB Factory Unlocked Smartphone - US Version (Midnight Black) - US Warranty - [SM-G950UZKAXAA]. In the settings, the model number is listed as: SM-G950U1.
Recently, I received a message from AT&T saying that they are shutting down their 3G network in February of 2022, and that my phone will no longer work on their network. I went into one of their stores and showed them that my phone operates on LTE, but I was told that is for data only and voice operates on 3G. I could not remember the VoLTE name at the time, but mentioned that my phone had the capability to operate on LTE. They refused to go thru settings with me, and told me that my phone will stop working in February. Period. End of story. Also, I was told the same thing that the message states, that they are sending me a new phone and will be deactivating my phone after 30 days.
Now some of my friends are laughing at me saying, "Dang free phones!" But I do not want a 5G phone (which is obviously what they are sending). I have my reasons and this is not what I wish to discuss here.
The issue is... I love my telephone!! It does exactly what I want, and I don't need anything new. Not to mention that I paid for it entirely, with no subsidy from AT&T. I specifically bought it unlocked with intentions of avoiding contracts and having the ability to switch carriers if I so choose.
I am pretty sure that I saw VoLTE mentioned in my settings a while back. But now a search on my phone finds nothing. I assume a firmware update hid this info from me.
So... what gives? Does anybody here know if this particular device can make/receive voice calls using VoLTE - on AT&T (or any other carriers) - simply by changing settings in the phone? Do I have any options to make my phone continue to operate as intended? With any carrier?
Sorry for the long post. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Sincerely,
Steve

willnotbecontrolled said:
Hello,
I am new to this site, and have a burning question I am trying to find an answer for.
So AT&T has been my carrier since about 2014. In July of 2019, I purchased an unlocked S8 from Amazon for about $350 Description says it is: Samsung Galaxy S8 64GB Factory Unlocked Smartphone - US Version (Midnight Black) - US Warranty - [SM-G950UZKAXAA]. In the settings, the model number is listed as: SM-G950U1.
Recently, I received a message from AT&T saying that they are shutting down their 3G network in February of 2022, and that my phone will no longer work on their network. I went into one of their stores and showed them that my phone operates on LTE, but I was told that is for data only and voice operates on 3G. I could not remember the VoLTE name at the time, but mentioned that my phone had the capability to operate on LTE. They refused to go thru settings with me, and told me that my phone will stop working in February. Period. End of story. Also, I was told the same thing that the message states, that they are sending me a new phone and will be deactivating my phone after 30 days.
Now some of my friends are laughing at me saying, "Dang free phones!" But I do not want a 5G phone (which is obviously what they are sending). I have my reasons and this is not what I wish to discuss here.
The issue is... I love my telephone!! It does exactly what I want, and I don't need anything new. Not to mention that I paid for it entirely, with no subsidy from AT&T. I specifically bought it unlocked with intentions of avoiding contracts and having the ability to switch carriers if I so choose.
I am pretty sure that I saw VoLTE mentioned in my settings a while back. But now a search on my phone finds nothing. I assume a firmware update hid this info from me.
So... what gives? Does anybody here know if this particular device can make/receive voice calls using VoLTE - on AT&T (or any other carriers) - simply by changing settings in the phone? Do I have any options to make my phone continue to operate as intended? With any carrier?
Sorry for the long post. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Sincerely,
Steve
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Same issue with crickett (att).
got that txt msg, recently maybe december there was a firmware update that greyed out my network settings and hid some items.
i cant even change my prefered network, 3g 4g lte etc, its locked..
I have the 950u1 also
HOWEVER I have a s8 950U that I think has all these unlocked.
Im going to backup and odin flash the U firmware to the UI and see if it works.
Thats bull**** about doing this. greedy ****s..
I go with somone else if I have to.

willnotbecontrolled said:
Hello,
I am new to this site, and have a burning question I am trying to find an answer for.
So AT&T has been my carrier since about 2014. In July of 2019, I purchased an unlocked S8 from Amazon for about $350 Description says it is: Samsung Galaxy S8 64GB Factory Unlocked Smartphone - US Version (Midnight Black) - US Warranty - [SM-G950UZKAXAA]. In the settings, the model number is listed as: SM-G950U1.
Recently, I received a message from AT&T saying that they are shutting down their 3G network in February of 2022, and that my phone will no longer work on their network. I went into one of their stores and showed them that my phone operates on LTE, but I was told that is for data only and voice operates on 3G. I could not remember the VoLTE name at the time, but mentioned that my phone had the capability to operate on LTE. They refused to go thru settings with me, and told me that my phone will stop working in February. Period. End of story. Also, I was told the same thing that the message states, that they are sending me a new phone and will be deactivating my phone after 30 days.
Now some of my friends are laughing at me saying, "Dang free phones!" But I do not want a 5G phone (which is obviously what they are sending). I have my reasons and this is not what I wish to discuss here.
The issue is... I love my telephone!! It does exactly what I want, and I don't need anything new. Not to mention that I paid for it entirely, with no subsidy from AT&T. I specifically bought it unlocked with intentions of avoiding contracts and having the ability to switch carriers if I so choose.
I am pretty sure that I saw VoLTE mentioned in my settings a while back. But now a search on my phone finds nothing. I assume a firmware update hid this info from me.
So... what gives? Does anybody here know if this particular device can make/receive voice calls using VoLTE - on AT&T (or any other carriers) - simply by changing settings in the phone? Do I have any options to make my phone continue to operate as intended? With any carrier?
Sorry for the long post. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Sincerely,
Steve
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press phone icon, then top right corner hit the 3 vertical dots.
select settings and it should be in there if you havent updated lately... they ****ed us and locked out network and volte settings.

djmdesign said:
Same issue with crickett (att).
got that txt msg, recently maybe december there was a firmware update that greyed out my network settings and hid some items.
i cant even change my prefered network, 3g 4g lte etc, its locked..
I have the 950u1 also
HOWEVER I have a s8 950U that I think has all these unlocked.
Im going to backup and odin flash the U firmware to the UI and see if it works.
Thats bull**** about doing this. greedy ****s..
I go with somone else if I have to.
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Please let me know if this works. I thought about doing the same thing, but have not gotten around to trying it. In theory, it sounds like a solid plan. But I have a couple of concerns.
During a recent phone call, AT&T told me their system has flagged my IMEI and that my phone will stop working very soon. So, if the system flagged an IMEI as an unsupported device, will it even matter which firmware is installed? Or will their system just deactivate the phone at some point?
Second, if you install the 950U firmware in place of the 950U1, will the device become carrier locked at this point? That would really suck if it did.
BTW, I was able to lock preferred network to “LTE only” by dialing *#*#4636#*#* and entering Device information screen. Unfortunately, my phone would not complete a call when using LTE only setting. VoLTE provisioned toggle is greyed out, along with others. Seems to me that if a guy could self provision VoLTE, this would solve the issue.
I called AT&T tech support and spent 45 minutes trying to get them to provision VoLTE, but they could not, or would not do it. At first, they kept telling me that my phone is a 3G phone. I argued that I could change the radio to “LTE only” and that my sim card status showed LTE for “mobile voice network type”, which proves that the phone is indeed LTE capable for voice calls - but that it will not complete a call because it is not provisioned to do so. Eventually they told me that their system would not allow them to provision VoLTE for me, since it is flagged as an unsupported device. Which leads back to the first part of this post.
I also found some stuff on reddit about putting the phone into “engineering mode” and something about a Samsung tool that unlocks additional dialer codes. Have not tried this, tho.
At this point, I am just completely fed up with AT&T for this whole S8 situation, as well as other unrelated issues. I will most likely switch carriers for principle’s sake, even though I know other carriers play similar games.
Anyway, I am interested in whether or not you find a solution and would very much like to hear about it. Thank you for the response!!

willnotbecontrolled said:
Please let me know if this works. I thought about doing the same thing, but have not gotten around to trying it. In theory, it sounds like a solid plan. But I have a couple of concerns.
During a recent phone call, AT&T told me their system has flagged my IMEI and that my phone will stop working very soon. So, if the system flagged an IMEI as an unsupported device, will it even matter which firmware is installed? Or will their system just deactivate the phone at some point?
Second, if you install the 950U firmware in place of the 950U1, will the device become carrier locked at this point? That would really suck if it did.
BTW, I was able to lock preferred network to “LTE only” by dialing *#*#4636#*#* and entering Device information screen. Unfortunately, my phone would not complete a call when using LTE only setting. VoLTE provisioned toggle is greyed out, along with others. Seems to me that if a guy could self provision VoLTE, this would solve the issue.
I called AT&T tech support and spent 45 minutes trying to get them to provision VoLTE, but they could not, or would not do it. At first, they kept telling me that my phone is a 3G phone. I argued that I could change the radio to “LTE only” and that my sim card status showed LTE for “mobile voice network type”, which proves that the phone is indeed LTE capable for voice calls - but that it will not complete a call because it is not provisioned to do so. Eventually they told me that their system would not allow them to provision VoLTE for me, since it is flagged as an unsupported device. Which leads back to the first part of this post.
I also found some stuff on reddit about putting the phone into “engineering mode” and something about a Samsung tool that unlocks additional dialer codes. Have not tried this, tho.
At this point, I am just completely fed up with AT&T for this whole S8 situation, as well as other unrelated issues. I will most likely switch carriers for principle’s sake, even though I know other carriers play similar games.
Anyway, I am interested in whether or not you find a solution and would very much like to hear about it. Thank you for the response!!
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Hi, I'm Newbie around here. I'd like to share my experience with ATT and my beloved S8+ this past few months:
Much like you and many others I started receiving texts from ATT by mid 2021 saying my phone would not work after Feb '22. Yes, every time they suspended my line I wasted 30~ 40 mins on the phone, listening how they would insist my S8+ was a 3G phone. It didn't matter that I offered to send them screenshots of my device showing the "VoLTE option" and "4G LTE" while both in the USA and Mexico. Thing is, they only based their saying on a st....id whitelist and all the reps are just talking heads.
I use an S8+ international version which is NOT on the dreaded list. and I am on the 300/year prepaid plan which allows roaming between Mexico and USA with no 50/50 usage limit.
I bought this phone on amazon for 350-ish bucks a couple of years ago and I love it!
I have to cross the Mexico/USA border very frequently and I need two separate numbers one on each country for business reasons so dual sim is a must. On the other hand, I receive lots and lots of phone calls while driving, this made me crave for android 8.1 when call recording was allowed by google, not the case anymore. None of these 2 features are available on the S8/S9 US based phones. I do not need 5G, I do not use social media nor watch videos on my phone but do get to use Pandora, Spotify, MLB radio and so on......... Enter SM-G955F/DS. I was able to change Samsung's CSC code to Israel so call recording is active for all those notes I cannot write down while driving and I get to carry just one device with 2 separate numbers thanks to a dual sim.
Ok, so back to my phone not being on the f... list :
Around Feb 10th, I got yet another email and SMS telling me it was my last opportunity to change or I MAY be disconnected after 2/22/22 ( funny choice of date huh?). I noticed that words on email and text messages had been changed from WILL NOT on Jul/2021 to MAY NOT work on Feb/2022. Since I know for a fact that my phone is VoLTE capable, I figured my S8+ would work as long as AT&T did not intentionally disconnected my line.
So, I took a crappy phoenix ATT phone and updated it's IMEI on my account via the ATT prepaid webpage. After getting "approval" from ATT's system, I put the SIM card in and used it for a full weekend. After that, I put the SIM card back to my S8+ and it is still going strong to date.
Today is March 1st, and I have been weary of ATT sneaking me out of their system but fortunately it has not happened yet. Needless to say, I have not updated my S8's IMEI on ATT's webpage and do not intend to do so.
Now, This "proves" that my phone is indeed capable of using VoLTE and HD , and all those things ATT said it would not do is just plain B.S.. if they disconnect me down the road I would definitely move to T Mobile although I would have some issues with the 50/50 international roaming and I still have 8 months left on my prepaid annual plan with ATT so, keeping my fingers crossed.
AT&T just wants to make more money out of selling new 5G devices while getting rid of their stocked 4G phones.
I wouldn't mind if they just plain out stated " If you do not buy from ATT then ATT will not support your device and will not sell service to you" then again, it would probably be a PR nightmare for them although they do that for WIFI calling anyways.
Ain't it funny how 2/22/22 is coincidentally a paycheck's time ( 2 weeks) after a new flagship phone (S22) was made available for purchase ?
Anyways, enough for ranting and conspiracy theories lol...
I have taken out and put back to my S8+ the SIM card two times in the past 9 days after 2/22/22 and my service is still in good standing.
Maybe if you got a new replacement phone that you don't like, you may swap back your SIM card and it MAY work just like mine is even if it is NOT ON THE INFAMOUS WHITE LIST.

Oldschoolguy said:
Hi, I'm Newbie around here. I'd like to share my experience with ATT and my beloved S8+ this past few months:
Much like you and many others I started receiving texts from ATT by mid 2021 saying my phone would not work after Feb '22. Yes, every time they suspended my line I wasted 30~ 40 mins on the phone, listening how they would insist my S8+ was a 3G phone. It didn't matter that I offered to send them screenshots of my device showing the "VoLTE option" and "4G LTE" while both in the USA and Mexico. Thing is, they only based their saying on a st....id whitelist and all the reps are just talking heads.
I use an S8+ international version which is NOT on the dreaded list. and I am on the 300/year prepaid plan which allows roaming between Mexico and USA with no 50/50 usage limit.
I bought this phone on amazon for 350-ish bucks a couple of years ago and I love it!
I have to cross the Mexico/USA border very frequently and I need two separate numbers one on each country for business reasons so dual sim is a must. On the other hand, I receive lots and lots of phone calls while driving, this made me crave for android 8.1 when call recording was allowed by google, not the case anymore. None of these 2 features are available on the S8/S9 US based phones. I do not need 5G, I do not use social media nor watch videos on my phone but do get to use Pandora, Spotify, MLB radio and so on......... Enter SM-G955F/DS. I was able to change Samsung's CSC code to Israel so call recording is active for all those notes I cannot write down while driving and I get to carry just one device with 2 separate numbers thanks to a dual sim.
Ok, so back to my phone not being on the f... list :
Around Feb 10th, I got yet another email and SMS telling me it was my last opportunity to change or I MAY be disconnected after 2/22/22 ( funny choice of date huh?). I noticed that words on email and text messages had been changed from WILL NOT on Jul/2021 to MAY NOT work on Feb/2022. Since I know for a fact that my phone is VoLTE capable, I figured my S8+ would work as long as AT&T did not intentionally disconnected my line.
So, I took a crappy phoenix ATT phone and updated it's IMEI on my account via the ATT prepaid webpage. After getting "approval" from ATT's system, I put the SIM card in and used it for a full weekend. After that, I put the SIM card back to my S8+ and it is still going strong to date.
Today is March 1st, and I have been weary of ATT sneaking me out of their system but fortunately it has not happened yet. Needless to say, I have not updated my S8's IMEI on ATT's webpage and do not intend to do so.
Now, This "proves" that my phone is indeed capable of using VoLTE and HD , and all those things ATT said it would not do is just plain B.S.. if they disconnect me down the road I would definitely move to T Mobile although I would have some issues with the 50/50 international roaming and I still have 8 months left on my prepaid annual plan with ATT so, keeping my fingers crossed.
AT&T just wants to make more money out of selling new 5G devices while getting rid of their stocked 4G phones.
I wouldn't mind if they just plain out stated " If you do not buy from ATT then ATT will not support your device and will not sell service to you" then again, it would probably be a PR nightmare for them although they do that for WIFI calling anyways.
Ain't it funny how 2/22/22 is coincidentally a paycheck's time ( 2 weeks) after a new flagship phone (S22) was made available for purchase ?
Anyways, enough for ranting and conspiracy theories lol...
I have taken out and put back to my S8+ the SIM card two times in the past 9 days after 2/22/22 and my service is still in good standing.
Maybe if you got a new replacement phone that you don't like, you may swap back your SIM card and it MAY work just like mine is even if it is NOT ON THE INFAMOUS WHITE LIST.
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Yep... AT&T is full of it. I got sick of wasting my time and energy trying to fight this. I eventually just switched over to TMo, and I have been running around with my S8's radio set to LTE only. No issues whatsoever. Great cell service, $30 bucks a month cheaper, all fees included in the flat rate, and a free Netflix account, to boot.
See ya AT&T!!! I hope some group with the the gumption and time takes you to court for your deceptive trade practices. I hope you lose lots of customers, time, and money for your douchery!!!

Has anyone looked into potentially using ODIN to use AT&T's firmware on the unbranded G950U1 without rooting to see if it adds the VoLTE software feature? Does anyone know if that flashing will disable (permanently break) samsung pay? I don't want any rooting since that will permanently break samsung pay on the hardware.