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Place your pre-orders now American customers! I have found one company located in North America. I have already placed my pre-order. The quote was provided as 550 pounds and 600 pounds with all prices inclusive.
Here is the link
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link 2 <-- removed due to seller being fake!
link 1 is canadian customers and link 2 (removed)
It is widely available in Europe via many resellers for the same price! Enjoy! They will ship sometime in April. Brand new in box and SIM Free Unlocked and in English with a English Keyboard unlike T-mobile and Dopod!
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Place your pre-orders now American customers! I have found two companies. Both located in North America. I have already placed my pre-order. The quote was provided as 550 pounds and 600 pounds with all prices inclusive.
Here are the links
link 1
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link 2
link 1 is canadian customers and link 2 is USA customers. Two links to avoid custom fee!
It is widely available in Europe via many resellers for the same price! Enjoy! They will ship sometime in April. Brand new in box and SIM Free Unlocked and in English with a English Keyboard unlike T-mobile and Dopod!
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The second link look quite fake, that company is only selling 1 item which is the Advantage? um.....pls be careful there. And also as i see it's still on pre-order. You sure they have confirm that price already? In uk, we have lots of website pre-ordering Advantage but the price are all soo different. You might end up paying more or less because those price is not final yet.
I can only say this again: If you want the Advantage so bad, wait until April, it will be out by then, no point doing any pre-order, you will get the machine about the same time anyway. By april, lots of company will be offering Advantage, and you can choose the best deal then.
If you really want to place your pre-order, please take some time to phone up HTC and ask them whether the price is right and is it really available now? I have just phone them and the answer is HTC ADVANTAGE IS NOT OUT AND THE PRICE IS NOT FINAL. so please be careful here...........
thanks i figured it out i removed that second link. filtering out my searches. that second seller was a fraud. thanks for revising me. wait isnt the price htcphonestore.com offering is $1500USD! >.> thats around 800 pounds and i believe thats a final price for now. but some resellers in europe offering 600 pounds. i saw it myself. and this canadian seller also offering 600 pounds. i trust the canadian seller.
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thanks i figured it out i removed that second link. filtering out my searches. that second seller was a fraud. thanks for revising me. wait isnt the price htcphonestore.com offering is $1500USD! >.> thats around 800 pounds and i believe thats a final price for now. but some resellers in europe offering 600 pounds. i saw it myself. and this canadian seller also offering 600 pounds. i trust the canadian seller.
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The europe reseller are all on pre-order, that's why the price are all not final yet. The canadian seller might just got the price from those website. Because they are all on pre-order and price not fix, no much people is putting interest in ordering them now, they rather wait until the price is confirm. The 600 pounds might comes from DOPOD U1000 as well, since that's the confirm price. I will be surprise if Advantage is only £600. from 3GSM, the HTC people say it's going be about £700, that's what expansys and mobile planet heard as well.
Usually the machine is cheaper in Asia. So Advantage should be more than £600 (DOPOD U1000).
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The europe reseller are all on pre-order, that's why the price are all not final yet. The canadian seller might just got the price from those website. Because they are all on pre-order and price not fix, no much people is putting interest in ordering them now, they rather wait until the price is confirm. The 600 pounds might comes from DOPOD U1000 as well, since that's the confirm price. I will be surprise if Advantage is only £600. from 3GSM, the HTC people say it's going be about £700, that's what expansys and mobile planet heard as well.
Usually the machine is cheaper in Asia. So Advantage should be more than £600 (DOPOD U1000).
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Well you will see its going to stick to £600 when it comes out. So you should return your Dopod and pre-order an Advantage X7500. See you have nothing to loose. you will be without a phone for a month latest but thats fine. You will gain a lot of things out of this. Let me brief you on the specs of the Advantage compared to Ameo and Dopod.
Firstly,
Performance wise all of them are equal
Secondly,
Quality/Body wise Advantage tops because it uses carbon fiber/magnesium alloy and ameo uses aluminum alloy with plastic just like dopod which is not a problem at all because they look like ipod but it just gets scratched up pretty easily. Plus HTC is a much better company than T-Mobile and Dopod since you are dealing with the original manufacturer and not a name branded t-mobile or dopod. HTC maintains its originality and you are getting it first hand instead of dopod changing the entire body and name branding it. So I make a wise choice and you are very impatient so you going to regret it. Anyways i am going to wait for 1 month or over 1 month for more people to start selling black one. i want to feel dopod before i make a decision. ameo looks awesome too. but i will wait for a month or two.
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Well you will see its going to stick to £600 when it comes out. So you should return your Dopod and pre-order an Advantage X7500. See you have nothing to loose. you will be without a phone for a month latest but thats fine. You will gain a lot of things out of this. Let me brief you on the specs of the Advantage compared to Ameo and Dopod.
Firstly,
Performance wise all of them are equal
Secondly,
Quality/Body wise Advantage tops because it uses carbon fiber/magnesium alloy and ameo uses aluminum alloy with plastic just like dopod which is not a problem at all because they look like ipod but it just gets scratched up pretty easily. Plus HTC is a much better company than T-Mobile and Dopod since you are dealing with the original manufacturer and not a name branded t-mobile or dopod. HTC maintains its originality and you are getting it first hand instead of dopod changing the entire body and name branding it. So I make a wise choice and you are very impatient so you going to regret it. Anyways i am going to wait for 1 month or over 1 month for more people to start selling black one. i want to feel dopod before i make a decision. ameo looks awesome too. but i will wait for a month or two.
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I am tired of people who don't understand the relationship between DOPOD and HTC, they are basically the same company, DOPOD is the sister company of HTC which is responsible of dealing with customer. Just for those people who have not touch bothe Advantage and Dopod u1000, i have played with both and personally, i think the DOPOD U1000 has a better finish and also better quality. But again, that's my personal view.
For support wise, DOPOD will give so much better support than HTC, HTC has just recently start dealing with customer, they are not very good at it, and they are thinking to hand the US and Europe market to DOPOD since they are doing so much better. If you look at HTC Official website, can you see any update or bug fix? NO!!!!! Nothing there, although they make the machine, but they don't fix the problem, you won't get any update from HTC, instead you will get it from DOPOD and T-mobile, they are their own engineer to fix up the problems. That also explain why the DOPOD machine is running smoother than Advantage, the test unit of Advantage still seems buggy, maybe that's the reason of delay.
Anyway, so which machine should you get?
I say this again: if you want black one, go Advantage, don't think more
If your contract is due to end, go Ameo
Any other people (including people who can't wait) should consider Dopod.
Will i return my Dopod and get Advantage? Sure not!
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I am tired of people who don't understand the relationship between DOPOD and HTC, they are basically the same company, DOPOD is the sister company of HTC which is responsible of dealing with customer. Just for those people who have not touch bothe Advantage and Dopod u1000, i have played with both and personally, i think the DOPOD U1000 has a better finish and also better quality. But again, that's my personal view.
For support wise, DOPOD will give so much better support than HTC, HTC has just recently start dealing with customer, they are not very good at it, and they are thinking to hand the US and Europe market to DOPOD since they are doing so much better. If you look at HTC Official website, can you see any update or bug fix? NO!!!!! Nothing there, although they make the machine, but they don't fix the problem, you won't get any update from HTC, instead you will get it from DOPOD and T-mobile, they are their own engineer to fix up the problems. That also explain why the DOPOD machine is running smoother than Advantage, the test unit of Advantage still seems buggy, maybe that's the reason of delay.
Anyway, so which machine should you get?
I say this again: if you want black one, go Advantage, don't think more
If your contract is due to end, go Ameo
Any other people (including people who can't wait) should consider Dopod.
Will i return my Dopod and get Advantage? Sure not!
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Alright i contacted the guy in montreal and he gave me a quote. He said its a pre-order. Also i asked him if there are any stores in new york or toronto where i can get this phone around april. Lets see tomorrow when i talk to him more. He said he is selling for £600 which is the same price as the dopod and thats truly amazing. Well sure i would get the dopod... its not like i got something against white.. it just seems stupid to get a keyboard with chinese characters on it and a chinese rom. Also i have never had a HTC phone.. all my phones till now.. branded by O2, Dopod or Orange... so i am really happy to see the HTC logo on my phone ^^
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Alright i contacted the guy in montreal and he gave me a quote. He said its a pre-order. Also i asked him if there are any stores in new york or toronto where i can get this phone around april. Lets see tomorrow when i talk to him more. He said he is selling for £600 which is the same price as the dopod and thats truly amazing. Well sure i would get the dopod... its not like i got something against white.. it just seems stupid to get a keyboard with chinese characters on it and a chinese rom. Also i have never had a HTC phone.. all my phones till now.. branded by O2, Dopod or Orange... so i am really happy to see the HTC logo on my phone ^^
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Nice to hear that We will wait for your info tomorrow, keep us inform.
Big difference between HTC Advantage and Dopod U1000
I have been reading this forum, but I have to say there is a big difference in specifications between HTC Advantage and Dopod U1000. If you type www.htc.com you will see under specs the HSDPA/UMTS (2100 MHz for Europe, 850/1900 MHz for USA) this means that if you buy the Europe version it only has 2100 MHZ. However if you type www.dopodasia.com you will find that under specs it comes with 2100MHZ AND 850/1900 MHZ. As such both models are very different. In addition, If you look at the weight, Dopod U1000 is much heavier than the HTC advantage. I was wondering how come nobody noticed this.. As such based on those 2 official websites. These 2 models are different not just the colour. I hope this helps.
In my personal opinion I think that the weight published on the HTC site includes: HTC Advantage + Battery as it clearly says: 359g (with battery)
On the Dopod site, the weight includes: Dopod U1000 + Battery + Keyboard as it says: 375g(With battery and Magnetic Qwerty keypad)
So I think the weight difference is only what is being weighted.
And for the HSDPA/UMTS frequencies I understand that the band of 2100 MHz is the one European Carriers are using, and in the USA the carriers are using 850/1900 MHz band. I don't think HTC will release a version for USA and one for Europe, what about Asia and the rest of America? I think they are just pointing out which band you have to use if you will use it in USA or in Europe.
Please someone correct me if I am wrong.
Regards!
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I have been reading this forum, but I have to say there is a big difference in specifications between HTC Advantage and Dopod U1000. If you type www.htc.com you will see under specs the HSDPA/UMTS (2100 MHz for Europe, 850/1900 MHz for USA) this means that if you buy the Europe version it only has 2100 MHZ. However if you type www.dopodasia.com you will find that under specs it comes with 2100MHZ AND 850/1900 MHZ. As such both models are very different. In addition, If you look at the weight, Dopod U1000 is much heavier than the HTC advantage. I was wondering how come nobody noticed this.. As such based on those 2 official websites. These 2 models are different not just the colour. I hope this helps.
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greatestkelvin said:
I have been reading this forum, but I have to say there is a big difference in specifications between HTC Advantage and Dopod U1000. If you type www.htc.com you will see under specs the HSDPA/UMTS (2100 MHz for Europe, 850/1900 MHz for USA) this means that if you buy the Europe version it only has 2100 MHZ. However if you type www.dopodasia.com you will find that under specs it comes with 2100MHZ AND 850/1900 MHZ. As such both models are very different. In addition, If you look at the weight, Dopod U1000 is much heavier than the HTC advantage. I was wondering how come nobody noticed this.. As such based on those 2 official websites. These 2 models are different not just the colour. I hope this helps.
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I think when they say "2100 MHz for Europe, 850/1900 MHz for USA" means those are the frequency for these country, it should support both.
The weight difference can be cause by many reason. i have weighted my Dopod and i got 372 which is with battery, and keyboard.
Not sure the advantage weight is including keyboard or not, it doesn't say.
But i think it make kind of sense that DOPOD is heavier (not that much anyway, don't think you will notice it) because the good material it use.
by the way, the keyboard itself weight about 80
Yes. the device support all frequency. they want to say it support2100 in Europe and 850/1900 in USA
many of phone is like it and support all of this.
Don't think HTC made 2 version of Advantage.one for Europe and one for America and ...
it is not true
tanX
in DPADB.net write all 3 device are 375 gr!!!!(include battey)
If me i'll write down tha things that fit for my costumer,and the other not to important, that what dey did i think. Give their consumer a specifict informations.
cornelius said:
If me i'll write down tha things that fit for my costumer,and the other not to important, that what dey did i think. Give their consumer a specifict informations.
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your reply is for who?
I can't underestand it
sorry
Arya said:
Yes. the device support all frequency. they want to say it support2100 in Europe and 850/1900 in USA
many of phone is like it and support all of this.
Don't think HTC made 2 version of Advantage.one for Europe and one for America and ...
it is not true
tanX
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Indeed, the HTC X7500/T-Mobile Ameo/Dopod U1000 have Quadband GSM support and Triband UMTS/3G support.
NOT many phones have this feature, to my knowledge only the HTC TyTN and the Palm Treo 750 currently have the same Quadband GSM / Triband UMTS features. Most other UMTS/3G phones on the market have market/UMTS frequency specific setups.
The Nokia N80 for example has a Quadband GSM capability but the UMTS/3G capability is limited to one region only (UMTS 2100 or 1900).
Guys...stop this gossip regarding a difference between the HTC X7500 and the Dopod/T-Mobile units: they are technically identical, there are only differences in the material/colours of the exterior casing used and some ROM differences which have been implemented by HTC too at Dopod/T-Mobile request. Not to forget that Dopod is owned by HTC, just in case some people don't know.
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Indeed, the HTC X7500/T-Mobile Ameo/Dopod U1000 have Quadband GSM support and Triband UMTS/3G support.
NOT many phones have this feature, to my knowledge only the HTC TyTN and the Palm Treo 750 currently have the same Quadband GSM / Triband UMTS features. Most other UMTS/3G phones on the market have market/UMTS frequency specific setups.
The Nokia N80 for example has a Quadband GSM capability but the UMTS/3G capability is limited to one region only (UMTS 2100 or 1900).
Guys...stop this gossip regarding a difference between the HTC X7500 and the Dopod/T-Mobile units: they are technically identical, there are only differences in the material/colours of the exterior casing used and some ROM differences which have been implemented by HTC too at Dopod/T-Mobile request. Not to forget that Dopod is owned by HTC, just in case some people don't know.
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You are wrong there, The rom wasn't done by HTC, DOPOD one is done by Dopod, and T-mobile one is done by T-mobile. HTC are in charge of the hardware design.
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You are wrong there, The rom wasn't done by HTC, DOPOD one is done by Dopod, and T-mobile one is done by T-mobile. HTC are in charge of the hardware design.
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Would you please name a source for this "information"? Just curious.
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Would you please name a source for this "information"? Just curious.
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I was one of the tester of Advantage, and my brother is one of the most senior engineer in HTC. I am not saying they don't do software, i am talking about the ROM. The base software wasn't even done by HTC , it's done by Microsoft !
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I was one of the tester of Advantage, and my brother is one of the most senior engineer in HTC. I am not saying they don't do software, i am talking about the ROM. The base software wasn't even done by HTC , it's done by Microsoft !
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Again curious: if you were a tester of the "Advantage", why couldn't you keep it further, why did you go for a Dopod? If your brother is a senior engineer at HTC, why didn't he get you a X7500 since beta testers have already "final" hardware versions in their hands? Because the Dopod is "better"?
I'm also curious why you asked in a post how the quality of the Advantage is...if you were a beta tester, you should know it better than anybody else.
Sorry if my questions are too straight forward, I'm just trying to understand why your information is completely opposed to what I know.
There are many questions being asked in various threads about NFC so lets stick all NFC enquiries into one thread.
What do we know so far?
From the UK model's there are no signs of NFC, however the Korean version does. Why is this?
The Korean service is provided KT, based on NFC phones and SIM cards.
"In Korea, there were 2~3 smartphones that embedded NFC including Nexus S. But in the problem of blocking SWP between USIM and NFC chipset, Nexus S is not that well promoted as the NFC phone. So Galaxy S2 may be accepted as the first NFC phone by consumers. And if iPhone 5 doesn’t embed NFC, Galaxy S2 is very important for carriers and card companies to want to drive the NFC payment.
Among active movements around the NFC business such as Korea Communication Commission’s ‘Grand NFC Korea Alliance, infrastructure is rising as the key issue to activate the market. And it’s a good opportunity for carriers to distribute Galaxy S2 which is designed for SIM-based SE.
After the launch of Galaxy S2, Samsung will adopt NFC in most of its smartphone line-up."
Which brings us to the UK version, from many sources on the web, Samsung is keen to blow NFC up big in the UK, they are planning to work with Visa for the Olympics:
http://www.nearfieldcommunicationsw...ing-nfc-payments-to-the-london-2012-olympics/
So that states from 2012 onwards, starting in the UK then Europe.
Mastercard and orange are working together to bring out a NFC phone, which will be the Samsung Wave 578:
http://www.whatmobile.net/2011/02/samsung-wave-578-gets-nfc-addition/
Not sure if Mastercard or Barclaycard, however these will be all based on SIM BASED NFC. A high capacity sim card replacing the standard sim cards.
Going back to 2010, Samsung trialling out Sim based NFC:
http://www.mobilemarketingmagazine.com/content/sim-based-nfc-payments-pilot-runs-mwc
Now Samsung is jumping on board the NFC bandwagon, as Mobile Business Briefing reports, with news that the company will be working with Visa to produce a branded Olympics handset featuring contactless mobile payments.
The phone will use a Visa enabled sim card to facilitate purchases from retailers with the necessary contactless technology. Some 60,000 retail outlets in London will apparently be set to accept NFC payments by the time the games rolls around in 2012.
The only question which remains is what network operator Samsung is going to get on board with…
So after all that, we may have to wait until next year maybe in the UK for a specific NFC based phone which will allow the new sims. The UK S2 in that sense will most likely not have NFC as we are not ready for it just yet.
Maybe we will see a NFC version in the near future or the Samsung Galaxy S3 rumoured for end year will house this once UK carriers have piloted their NFC tests!
Oddly phones4u who are the only uk store to actually have some in the warehouse go out their way to state it houses nfc to use you phone as a credit card. I'm starting to think it might vary from shop to shop. This could be confusing!
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I think they all procure physical devices from same source.
But different shops grab specs from different Samsung web site
Or may be everyone is lucky, that metal frame around the camera lens IS the NFC antenna, and all this phone needs is a software upgrade to enable NFC functionality
I think it's pretty poor of Samsung not to be totally transparent about who is getting what varient and when.. i.e. Exynos/Tegra, Super AMOLED+/LCD, NFC/Non NFC, 16GB/32GB...
Clove have just released a blog stating the UK SGSII will NOT be shipping with NFC.
God its bad, Samsung should have cleared what region is getting what, Clove and expansys said repeatedly to me that NFC will there...
Its bad marketing by Samsung..Misrepresentation under English Law sue-able offense.
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Clove have just released a blog stating the UK SGSII will NOT be shipping with NFC.
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Clove have just released a blog stating the UK SGSII will NOT be shipping with NFC.
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I think all early versions of the phone will not have NFC then... I hoped the german version would be an exeption, but I belive it is the same physical batch because it comes similar early to the market.
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Clove have just released a blog stating the UK SGSII will NOT be shipping with NFC.
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I actually asked them to verify that with Samsung since all the review said NFC were missing. They got back to me last night before posting the blog to confirm that there won't be NFC. I don't know why Samsung never told them that before or why they never verified this with the rest of the specs to begin with...
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I actually asked them to verify that with Samsung since all the review said NFC were missing. They got back to me last night before posting the blog to confirm that there won't be NFC. I don't know why Samsung never told them that before or why they never verified this with the rest of the specs to begin with...
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I know.... You can also read a small bit about NFC here not impressed.
well according the the official samsung galaxy s2 specification webpage it says that the thickness is 8.49mm. Also under the NFC specs there was a line saying that with phones with the NFC chip, the thickness would vary. Now the korean version is launched and its with NFC chip, and indeed in the official samsungtomorrow korean site ( here http://samsungtomorrow.com/1145) the thickness is given as 8.89mm. So I guess we can safely assume that galaxy s2's with 8.89 mm thickness are the ones with nfc chip. So Before its launched in your region if you find 8.49mm thickness under the specs sheet that consider its without nfc.
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well according the the official samsung galaxy s2 specification webpage it says that the thickness is 8.49mm. Also under the NFC specs there was a line saying that with phones with the NFC chip, the thickness would vary. Now the korean version is launched and its with NFC chip, and indeed in the official samsungtomorrow korean site ( here http://samsungtomorrow.com/1145) the thickness is given as 8.89mm. So I guess we can safely assume that galaxy s2's with 8.89 mm thickness are the ones with nfc chip. So Before its launched in your region if you find 8.49mm thickness under the specs sheet that consider its without nfc.
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Yes, I lived in korea. And we think 0.5mm differrence is our Korea galaxy S2 model(SHW-M250S/M250K) embedded TDMB module.
(if you learn about TDMB, please refer follow link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Multimedia_Broadcasting)
usually most of korea cellphone embedded TDMB module and,
as a result, phone thicker then non-dmb embedded phone.
So our korean think Korea galaxy S2 is thicker then EU galaxy S2.
Expansys told me yesterday that their stock has the NFC chip... I even asked the guy to double check etc. and mentioned what everyone had been saying on forums. If it arrives without the NFC chip (which it probably will) I am going to kick up a fuss.
I have repeatedly asked Expansys to recheck and confirm that what ever specs are mentioned on your webpage will be present in my phone when they ship.. They said yes, It will be same phone (specs) as mentioned on the web.. Lets see
hshah said:
Expansys told me yesterday that their stock has the NFC chip... I even asked the guy to double check etc. and mentioned what everyone had been saying on forums. If it arrives without the NFC chip (which it probably will) I am going to kick up a fuss.
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NFC
I got mine from P4U yesterday and I can not find any sign of an NFC chip. Nothing comes up in the hardware profile and there is no app to define credit card information etc.
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I got mine from P4U yesterday and I can not find any sign of an NFC chip. Nothing comes up in the hardware profile and there is no app to define credit card information etc.
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Thanks... It is now 100% confirmed Samsung did not release the SGS II on the UK market with the chip.
Bloody annoying what!
Samsung make great hardware but their marketing, advertising & P.R need to be taken down a peg or two.
Samsung UK must have known all along the current UK SGS II would not have the chip, so why was it not mentioned as such.
You simply can not advertise something when clearly it is not.
It is a clear case of false advertising. Absolutely everything I read prior to purchase said it had nfc. I didn't see even the slightest speculation that it was not going to be included.
I'm not too bothered though. In reality, I have no use for nfc just yet - and I can't see me keeping this phone for more than a year (not the phone's fault, I just like to stay fairly current).
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I just now made a request (tweet) to samsung india twitter account:
Please take ur time in getting the sgs2 to India, but please include the NFC Chip, we really want a future ready device.
I request all indian xda members to do the same.
heres the link: http://twitter.com/#!/samsung_mobiles
Can anyone tell me how to verify before buying if a particular Galaxy S2 has built in NFC chip? Will it say on the box? usually sellers have sealed package. Do I have to remove the battery cover for physical evidence or literally measure the thickness? Also, how to verify the variants of LCD/AMOLED and CPUs?
I'll greatly appreciate if anyone has any info on this, it's my major concern. I hate it when I pay top dollars and find that my boss or colleague has the same phone with better cpu and extra feature.
Cheers in advance.
I can't see how or why they would make to models, where is the money in that, i only see unhappy costumer.
uncanny said:
Can anyone tell me how to verify before buying if a particular Galaxy S2 has built in NFC chip? Will it say on the box? usually sellers have sealed package. Do I have to remove the battery cover for physical evidence or literally measure the thickness? Also, how to verify the variants of LCD/AMOLED and CPUs?
I'll greatly appreciate if anyone has any info on this, it's my major concern. I hate it when I pay top dollars and find that my boss or colleague has the same phone with better cpu and extra feature.
Cheers in advance.
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Exactly the question I had in my mind.
Would really appreciate if someone can really come up with a concrete answer.
Maybe if some SGS II users from korean market join us here then they would be able to tell us how to identify a NFC/non NFC enabled SGS II or where does it really shows up or mentioned.
Thanks.
Just thought of updating you guys!
Here is the spec sheet for Galaxy S II india version : http://twitpic.com/52888s
As per that, we've got NFC!!
[AFTER RELEASE UPDATE]
Now that everyone got the SGS2 in their hands, NFC - as promised by Samsung during the official launch event - IS MISSING.
For now, NFC is only available on their Korean models.
Lol so back to the original topic...
That's great but it sucks that India get it and the UK still don't.
Don't mean to be offensive but how will NFC be any use in India, wouldn't it just be a gimmick in your case.
Price starting from Rs. 35,000 for Locked 16GB iPhone 4 and 41,000 for 16GB Factory Unlocked in India and samsung galaxys II will be hitting the markets next month and is priced at Rs 32,890 for the 16 GB version. It's cheaper than Iphone although sgs II beats Iphone in every way , it will also have NFC
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What's wrong with you?!.
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he is actuall correct, the metioned thread is so actively monitored and updated. they even have the discount coupon for pre orders from lets buy.
IMo there is nothing wrong in saying that!!!
dhruvmalik said:
Thanks Buddy... The lurkers can think what they want but for those who continuously follow a topic, its a bit difficult to maintain a proper trail with new threads with the same question. Just like Android.... Things get fragmented.
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I made this thread to discuss about the NFC part. It is interesting because India and Korea are the only countries to get it. My idea of creating this thread is to get a global opinion about this move by samsung.
The thread you mentioned, has been hijacked for the purpose of discussing India release by a few people (including me!. I made that first post there telling the presence of NFC).
Let me repeat, this thread is to discuss exclusively about the NFC inclusion; not the coupon code, group buying with your friends or India launch.
Relax!.
huh!.. as per this http://www.samsung.com/in/galaxys2/ , there is NO NFC!. hmm.
This should have been easily fixed if the Invitees to that event - did a proper inspection of the Phone. There will be a Tag app to test NFC - if is there. They could also check by removing the backplate to see if the NFC antenna and controllers are visible.
So bad, no one checked this to confirm.
Does it explicitly mention that there's no NFC in that page? Or has it just been omitted?
Samsung confirmed its presence during the event today and the official spec sheet given to the media includes it.
Even the Samsung Mobiles India twitter account(which has gained a bit more credibility after today's events) has been saying it'll be present all along.
One of the blogs covering it initially posted that NFC won't be included only to correct it a bit later as well.
NFC? Is it reallllly necessary?
Hmmm, anyway I don't see the use of NFC hardware for Indian customers! It's like getting a LTE capable phone to work with India's 2G network which is now only getting used to 3G speeds!
FYI ....
http://www.nearfieldcommunicationsw...i-searches-for-a-business-model-in-bangalore/
It has already begun ..... What world do u live in buddy ??
Although it may available in certain parts in India. I guess it'll take some time before it becomes widsespread. So Samsung might be following the same pattern as in UK. Release non-NFC first then the NFC version. That way they can still get the same price for the non-NFC version as there are people who arent bothered about the NFC.
But with that said, India might also be getting the 2nd production batch, the ones that belong to the same batch of NFC enabled devices headed to the UK.
So does it released in India ?
sorry but the Indian SGS2 DOES not have the NFC chip.confirmed.
hoezay said:
sorry but the Indian SGS2 DOES not have the NFC chip.confirmed.
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Can you mention the source?
those who got their SGS2 in Mumbai r the ones which r meant for indian customers... letsbuy is selling it for them & even vodafone is selling it to their mumbai customers....
as the stocks have arrived in mumbai as early as june 2nd, for the first time in India, people who owns it have confirmed that no NFC for indian version SGS2 as of now...
rest assured... i hope it suffices...
Bawezy said:
Lol so back to the original topic...
That's great but it sucks that India get it and the UK still don't.
Don't mean to be offensive but how will NFC be any use in India, wouldn't it just be a gimmick in your case.
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Probably because India is rapidly advancing in all areas. They are rapidly growing, in GDP and becoming more modernised. And it's probably easier to put NFC into retail/infrastructure and train people to use it from the beginning. Whereas in the UK, it's more of a pain because the UK has to re-train people to use it and then implement it and hence it'll probably take longer to actually be used in the UK.
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Can you mention the source?
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The source is the SGS 2 i'm holding in my hands right now Indian Version. No NFC.
( all this talk of it , i had a dream last night that the nfc was an attachment that i overlooked in the box LOL not kidding )
What if the phone does have NFC hardware but needs a software update to make it work?
Sent from my Galaxy S II
RobinRichard said:
What if the phone does have NFC hardware but needs a software update to make it work?
Sent from my Galaxy S II
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Has anyone confirmed with samsung that the hard ware is installed in the indian version ...??? No comments so far on the samsung official site.
If i now buy a phone withont NFC, can I add it later? Like by buying a battery with NFC?? Will it work?
Where can I purchase the the SM910C? I can't find any reputable seller. The "C" (Exynos) is suppose to be compatible with virtually every network (and US LTE Bands to some extent); similar to the "F" (Snapdragon)
Mine is is the N910C variant, i am based in Malaysia
The C variant is sold in South East Asia i think
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Where can I purchase the the SM910C? I can't find any reputable seller. The "C" (Exynos) is suppose to be compatible with virtually every network (and US LTE Bands to some extent); similar to the "F" (Snapdragon)
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C-version can purchase in Russia (after 23.10 ~850-900$, but i don't know seller from us).. U-version (the same except modem) - in Korea
Dubai
Well this is the model that is sold in Dubai, UAE. Just got mine yesterday.
which shop in dubai has the note 4
You can pre-order C, U and F in Poland (but stores aren't sure yet which version they will have and the price is higher than in other countries).
Can people give us some links please
The C Variant is all I'll really need now, haha. I wonder what the sales figure is now for the Note 4 in general.
http://www.morele.net/smartfon-samsung-galaxy-note-4-czarny-sm-n910czkexeo-649175/
Apparently they ship EU wide on demand. 560€.
http://geizhals.eu/samsung-galaxy-note-4-n910c-schwarz-a1161556.html
AndreiLux said:
http://www.morele.net/smartfon-samsung-galaxy-note-4-czarny-sm-n910czkexeo-649175/
Apparently they ship EU wide on demand. 560€.
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Now there is paypal
AndreiLux said:
Apparently they ship EU wide on demand. 560€.
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@AndreiLux,
Hi, I live in Ecuador and the networks here are Claro and Movistar. I think the 910C is the version I need but not 100%. I am visiting the States in 2 weeks and want to bring back the new phone with me, so I need to get this purchased right away so it can be shipped on time. Do you know what the difference is between the 910C and 910U? If you develop for one, will it be compatible with the other? I will be happy to contribute to your fundraiser campaign to make sure it gets funded.
I am *only* interested in this phone with a custom rom, I don't want all the extra Samsung apps. I want pure Android. So it's very important to me to make sure I buy the right phone that is going to be modded by the community.
I'm having some trouble finding someone that will ship it to the States quickly enough for a reasonable price.
Thank you.
AndreiLux said:
http://www.morele.net/smartfon-samsung-galaxy-note-4-czarny-sm-n910czkexeo-649175/
Apparently they ship EU wide on demand. 560€.
http://geizhals.eu/samsung-galaxy-note-4-n910c-schwarz-a1161556.html
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I'm not getting the 560 € price, I'm seeing 710€ on both links 2999 polish zloty is 710 € according to google.
And how reliable is ordering in poland or russia? Does anybody have experience with that?
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I'm not getting the 560 € price, I'm seeing 710€ on both links 2999 polish zloty is 710 € according to google.
And how reliable is ordering in poland or russia? Does anybody have experience with that?
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Depends on your VAT. Anyway one of those shops got good reviews from outside purchasers and they apparently speak English and German if you send them a mail.
I would avoid Russia if possible.
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Depends on your VAT. Anyway one of those shops got good reviews from outside purchasers and they apparently speak English and German if you send them a mail.
I would avoid Russia if possible.
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Thanks, which one of the shops did you mean?
REGION-lock!
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Where can I purchase the the SM910C? I can't find any reputable seller. The "C" (Exynos) is suppose to be compatible with virtually every network (and US LTE Bands to some extent); similar to the "F" (Snapdragon)
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Keep in mind, that some models have a REGION-lock: you must first make a call in the region the phone is locked of a minimum of 5 minutes, before SIM-cards of other regions are accepted!
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Thanks, which one of the shops did you mean?
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The Morele one. At least that's what the reviews on the aggregation site say.
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The Morele one. At least that's what the reviews on the aggregation site say.
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Thanks I contacted them. I also contacted the redcoon one, I used the dutch branch once and got positive experiences with it. If anyone wants to know I'll comment when they reply.
Can't you simply flash a ROM (as long as the modem is the same) from a different region (other than the EU) and unlock the region-lock?
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Keep in mind, that some models have a REGION-lock: you must first make a call in the region the phone is locked of a minimum of 5 minutes, before SIM-cards of other regions are accepted!
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I contacted Morele and this is what they said about international shipping:
Hello,
thank you for your ineterst in our offer. Unfortuately, we realize foreign shipping only on Europen Union territory, so we don't able to make order like this for you.
Regards,
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I contacted Morele and this is what they said about international shipping:
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Ah I thought you were from the EU. Well then best guess is a importer which gets South American units or a Middle Eastern retailer like one of those UAE shops.
Hi, I'm just curious. For those that bought international version of S8/S8+, which country or service provider sw ver., do you have? Info can be found under about phone and software.
I got EGY. It came with SHAHID bloated app that cannot be uninstalled. Samsung Pay doesn't work.
Bought the international version from my carrier with no bloatware
Sm g950fd
I'm from PAK
No bloatware
I have DBT/DBT/EGY
no bloatware
ประเทศไทย, 950FD
Thailand, no bloatware
Current firmware: G950FXXU1AQG5
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I have DBT/DBT/EGY
no bloatware
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How could you get German and Egypt together?
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ประเทศไทย, 950FD
Thailand, no bloatware
Current firmware: G950FXXU1AQG5
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Did you purchase it in Thailand?
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Did you purchase it in Thailand?
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Yes I did. Bought it at launch. For the same price as in the US, I got a fast wireless charger, OEM case, Bluetooth speaker, and cash voucher thrown in. Quite a good deal I must say.
I split my time between the US, Europe, and Bangkok. I don't get my phones in the US anymore (from AT&T) because they are locked, have less LTE bands and, most importantly, don't offer dual SIM versions!
SM-G950FD, Dual SIM.
Bought in Singapore, Carrier is StarHub.
AQF7
No bloat, didnt even come with a calculator app. Had to install from play store
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Yes I did. Bought it at launch. For the same price as in the US, I got a fast wireless charger, OEM case, Bluetooth speaker, and cash voucher thrown in. Quite a good deal I must say.
I split my time between the US, Europe, and Bangkok. I don't get my phones in the US anymore (from AT&T) because they are locked, have less LTE bands and, most importantly, don't offer dual SIM versions!
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That's nice. Did you buy from Samsung shop or other retail? I want to get Thai CSC. Does the firmware include any localization for Thai?
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That's nice. Did you buy from Samsung shop or other retail? I want to get Thai CSC. Does the firmware include any localization for Thai?
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Samsung Shop. Bought online, collect at a local Samsung Shope (@ Siam Paragon).
I believe the CSC does include localization, I just don't use it. I prefer everything to be in English.
950FD
NEE/NEE/XSG
AQF7
I use it in Finland, carrier Telia. No bloatware.
XTC - PH no bloatware
EGY/EGY/EGY
Bought in US. Shipped from Texas. ?
ROM/ROM/XSG - bought it from a Romanian retailer but the charger was not European, it is a type G one (GBR,IRL,MLT etc.). I wonder what that means.
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How could you get German and Egypt together?
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i don't know ! i've ordered it over ebay, i'm in germany.
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ROM/ROM/XSG - bought it from a Romanian retailer but the charger was not European, it is a type G one (GBR,IRL,MLT etc.). I wonder what that means.
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That means it was imported from United Arab Emirates. I also think it means you don't have any warranty service in Romania from Samsung.
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That means it was imported from United Arab Emirates. I also think it means you don't have any warranty service in Romania from Samsung.
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Well that kind of sucks... I have 2 years of warranty from the seller so no huge issue but still. At least I hope that the quality control for UEA is better then Eastern Europe. The phone looks to be good with no bloatware installed and I am planning to root and install custom ROMs so bye bye warranty anyway...
Thanks for the reply though.
bedobela said:
Well that kind of sucks... I have 2 years of warranty from the seller so no huge issue but still. At least I hope that the quality control for UEA is better then Eastern Europe. The phone looks to be good with no bloatware installed and I am planning to root and install custom ROMs so bye bye warranty anyway...
Thanks for the reply though.
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It was easy to answer, as I have XSG myself. I ordered mine from Dubai, as FD is not available here in Finland.
Where to buy the S8 in Bangkok
kittiyut said:
Yes I did. Bought it at launch. For the same price as in the US, I got a fast wireless charger, OEM case, Bluetooth speaker, and cash voucher thrown in. Quite a good deal I must say.
I split my time between the US, Europe, and Bangkok. I don't get my phones in the US anymore (from AT&T) because they are locked, have less LTE bands and, most importantly, don't offer dual SIM versions!
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Sounds good! I am also looking to by a S8 in Bangkok next weekend. Where did you get your one?
Best,
Floris