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Unbranded custom HU vs Universal Joying HU

So I want to buy an android hu that is built specifically for my car. one for a stock-like look, and other for ease of installation and compatibility with my existing setup.
So they unfortunately don't make too many that are compatible, but here is the best I could find -
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Quad...-MAZDA-6-Third-generation-GJ/32353751486.html
I don't know anything about what base model the unit is based on. I just know that it has all the latest internal specs. However, contacting the seller, while they are responsive, can't give me too many technical details it seems. They don't have a website either.
The joying units seem to have very good support both here on xda, and through the manufacturer website. Only problem is I would need to buy a universal unit to fit my car, since they don't make a custom one for it.
So, what is xda's opinion? Should I go for the custom model that has the same specs as the joying, but almost no support or info? Or should I just get the universal joying model and just customize it for my setup?
My preferred choice is the custom model, but I am worried that it will be very low quality and regularly crash like I've read about hot audio and some other low quality brands. Joying seems to be the best pure android HU to buy right now, but I am worried I'll be disappointed w/ the appearance in my car, and that it will be complicated/impossible to get it all working w/ my stock backup camera, steering wheel controls, etc.
Let me know your opinions!

From the main carjoy thread... I've made up my mind that I'm just going to buy the carjoy universal unit.
* it's over $100 cheaper than a custom unit
* good support here on xda and from the seller
* if I don't like it, I can resell it fairly easily since it's universal
I will treat it more as an experiment than a true replacement. My car is still pretty new & I don't want to feel like I'm "cheapening" it by putting in a half-baked infotainment system. At $300, I can afford to take it as a full loss if I had to. I hope my fears are wrong and I fall in love w/ it. Just so many reports of crashing, features not working well/at all, etc. I expect that it will take some effort, but I want a robust, full functioning system and I'm okay putting in the work to get it there .

Pumpkin CS-C0355 or Ownice C200?

I have a 2011 VW Jetta Sportwagen and the stock RCD-510 died on me. I've spent the past couple weeks eyeing up these different Android head units and it's a bit overwhelming. My sort of minimum requirements are 1024x600 and 16GB storage. I'd love to be able to set up a dash cam using CaroO. Edit: Also would like to make sure I can connect my phone via Bluetooth for music. I think this is a common feature on these HUs, though.
I think I've narrowed it down to the Pumpkin CS-C0355 (7" has a couple of USB ports) and an Ownice C200. The C200 has 2GB memory and is 8", which is nice, but I get the impression that everyone is operating okay with 1GB. I also don't think the C200 supports something like CaroO, only a camera that does the recording externally. I don't get the impression that Ownice has a lot of support on XDA here, which makes me think the Pumpkin will be a better choice for flashing other ROMs and dealing with some of the quirks that seem to be pretty standard in the "stock" units.
Has anyone had experiences with one or both of these? Any thoughts on which would be a good choice?

Bro, the Pumpkin CS-C0355 is out of stock now. It might be popular, so Autopumpkin has released another HU (11-C0359) to replace it. These two HUs seem to don't have much differences (tell from the function description), but Pumpkin offers better after-sale service (2 year free warranty)! I would rather choose the one who focuses on providing the best customer experience.

I was looking to order through their AliExpress store since the C0355 is in stock and was a bit cheaper (looks like prices went up until the 11/11 sale) but they only mention a 1 year warranty there. The C0359 looks exactly the same ... Curious what the difference is. I'll do a bit more research but maybe it's worth the higher price from their site for the extra year of warranty. Hm.
Thanks for the reply. Pumpkin does seem to have better support. Don't see too many good things about Ownice.

Which identical HU to buy?

Hi there,
I searched, but didn't see this addressed specifically so here we go. If the topic is already covered, let's kill this thread and redirect to the other. I'm not proud.
I recently discovered that it's time for a new HU for my car - 2006 Audi A4 with RNS-E nav - and wanted better tech. I've been looking at the Pioneer units with Android Auto, but don't like how limited it is. If I want to use Waze for nav and Torque for OBD, etc, that's not going to work. So I dug into Android head units, but I'm a bit confused.
As near as I can tell, there are several companies selling exactly the same hardware. Pumpkin, Joying, and several others all sell HUs that are physically identical and have the same hardware specs. I'm guessing the difference is in the ROM rather than the hardware, but y'all probably can tell me whether that's true or not.
If the hardware is the same, is it possible to run a ROM for one brand on another? Seems likely, but I wouldn't want to bank on that when I buy. So if the hardware is the same but I need to pick a brand, what's the best option? Is there any appreciable difference in stability, sound quality, user interface, feature implementation, etc that would push me to choose one brand over another? I know that's subjective, but there's some pretty deep knowledge in this group and I'm just getting started on the car audio stuff with Android.
Again, if this has been answered already, just point me to the thread and I'm OK with a moderator killing this one.
Thanks!

StunGod said:
Hi there,
I searched, but didn't see this addressed specifically so here we go. If the topic is already covered, let's kill this thread and redirect to the other. I'm not proud.
I recently discovered that it's time for a new HU for my car - 2006 Audi A4 with RNS-E nav - and wanted better tech. I've been looking at the Pioneer units with Android Auto, but don't like how limited it is. If I want to use Waze for nav and Torque for OBD, etc, that's not going to work. So I dug into Android head units, but I'm a bit confused.
As near as I can tell, there are several companies selling exactly the same hardware. Pumpkin, Joying, and several others all sell HUs that are physically identical and have the same hardware specs. I'm guessing the difference is in the ROM rather than the hardware, but y'all probably can tell me whether that's true or not.
If the hardware is the same, is it possible to run a ROM for one brand on another? Seems likely, but I wouldn't want to bank on that when I buy. So if the hardware is the same but I need to pick a brand, what's the best option? Is there any appreciable difference in stability, sound quality, user interface, feature implementation, etc that would push me to choose one brand over another? I know that's subjective, but there's some pretty deep knowledge in this group and I'm just getting started on the car audio stuff with Android.
Again, if this has been answered already, just point me to the thread and I'm OK with a moderator killing this one.
Thanks!
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If there's no difference in hardware, why not read some product reviews to know these brands better and then choose the one who provides high quality product and better after-sales service. Nowadays you can get many information from Google.

u.r.rible said:
If there's no difference in hardware, why not read some product reviews to know these brands better and then choose the one who provides high quality product and better after-sales service. Nowadays you can get many information from Google.
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Yeah, thanks for the advice. Terribly helpful.

I have a Ownice C200 and since the last update i'm very satisfied.
The only thing that could improved is the radio reception that sometimes fade away a bit, despite you can mount a wifi antenna on the radio, the reception stays weak, the manufacturer doesn't give root.
good things are... phone calls are very good, gps works fine, good sound quality (i got mine hooked up on a audison voce AV 5.1K amplifier)
The pumpkin, joying, kgl and many others, share the same hardware probably made by one manufacturer with only 1 gb mem and no bluetooth 3.0.
Ownice has 2gb and bluetooth 3.0
Ownice produces also for Navall, Navall import the radios in to Europe Canada the US, and have a certified repair depo in the UK.

You can check Pumpkin http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pumpkin-2003-2011-Bluetooth-Steering-Subwoofer/dp/B0109UATOC/

JOYING or PUMPKIN head unit?

hello
I'm really debating between choosing the latest JOYING headunit (with the digital amplifier) and the PUMPKIN 7.1 android
does they have the external mic problem?
Is there any other recommended stable Chinese android head unit?

I'm more or less convinced that it's really a zero sum game with these units. Each has it's own issues and benefits and they even out. Find one with the screen you like and general features.

pounce said:
I'm more or less convinced that it's really a zero sum game with these units. Each has it's own issues and benefits and they even out. Find one with the screen you like and general features.
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they all have basically the same feature. it's supposed to be almost identical units...
do u recommend a specific model from specific brand? there are so many of these Chinese brands.

+1 for Pumpkin, I've had the RQ0278E for a few months now, it's nice but it has its quirks. The Android 6.0 update made it better. Btw, I can't seem to get my DAC to work with it properly

deadeye1985 said:
they all have basically the same feature. it's supposed to be almost identical units...
do u recommend a specific model from specific brand? there are so many of these Chinese brands.
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Everyone has an opinion or approach. Depends on your objectives.
Personally, I find a good source first. I like Amazon because I can easily return. Then a look in the forums to check the amount of discussions and support for things I need. I read a bit and then buy something that seems to have some discussions and an amount of success or managed issues. Not everyone takes the approach.
Pumpkin and Joying are fairly established so I think they go in a short list.
I'm about to go with a Secaine unit because they do a nice job with dash specific plastic and form factors, but I don't hear much good about the guts. I see a lot of negative things, but that may just be because only people with problems post.
If you like hands on mods then a Joying might be fun. If you don't then maybe consider any good options that aren't Intel based.

What do you say about the OWNICE C500 ? are they another reseller ?

pounce said:
Everyone has an opinion or approach. Depends on your objectives.
Personally, I find a good source first. I like Amazon because I can easily return. Then a look in the forums to check the amount of discussions and support for things I need. I read a bit and then buy something that seems to have some discussions and an amount of success or managed issues. Not everyone takes the approach.
Pumpkin and Joying are fairly established so I think they go in a short list.
I'm about to go with a Secaine unit because they do a nice job with dash specific plastic and form factors, but I don't hear much good about the guts. I see a lot of negative things, but that may just be because only people with problems post.
If you like hands on mods then a Joying might be fun. If you don't then maybe consider any good options that aren't Intel based.
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I just want a stable and reliable unit with good MIC , good 3G/4G +GPS for running WAZE

deadeye1985 said:
I just want a stable and reliable unit with good MIC , good 3G/4G +GPS for running WAZE
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Can you use your phone as a wifi hotspot? That would keep things simple.
Reliable might not be a quality attributed to any of the android unit. It's my opinion that most of accept some degree of mediocre reliability in exchange for the functionality we gain with being able to run android on the head unit.
You may want to consider opening your search to include Android Auto units. Waze is supported now.

pounce said:
Can you use your phone as a wifi hotspot? That would keep things simple.
Reliable might not be a quality attributed to any of the android unit. It's my opinion that most of accept some degree of mediocre reliability in exchange for the functionality we gain with being able to run android on the head unit.
You may want to consider opening your search to include Android Auto units. Waze is supported now.
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The main problem is that I buy an android unit for my parents and they don't have a smartphone...only a old simple nokia.
so they need to use waze with a sim card with data plan.

deadeye1985 said:
The main problem is that I buy an android unit for my parents and they don't have a smartphone...only a old simple nokia.
so they need to use waze with a sim card with data plan.
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I would not recommend an android unit for older parents that use an old simple nokia if the reasons are that a smart phone is too complicated. I believe they may have issues with the use of the unit and that could be a safety issue.

ATOTO Double DIN Android 6.0 is my choice
I am owning ATOTO Android 6.0 HU. When it comes to operation speed, ATOTO is the best. After PUMPKIN Android 7 released for 2 months, I checked a lot reviews about it. But I think that may slower than my ATOTO Android 6.0 system. So I will just keep Android 6.0

i want to buy unit that support video out (headrest monitors), i found 2 units that i think that is good and i dont know what to choose.
1. joying JY-UM135N2PX5 CPU: PX5 Octa core Cortex-A53 up to 1.5GHz
2. hizpo WJZ99GX - CPU: T8 2.0GHz (i think this is the model number)
most of the parameters are the same, exept the CPU
does anybody could recommend one of them or maybe another unit that i missed?

Yes, after long time research, I finally got ATOTO back with my 2003 Mazda Miata. So far so good. The screen responds faster than my wife's Joying. Good try！And it helped me save a lot money.

deadeye1985 said:
What do you say about the OWNICE C500 ? are they another reseller ?[/QUOTE
No, ownice is a manufacturer, they use other hardware like the cpu from AutoChips.
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New Head Unit: Dasaita or Joying

Hi,
im very new to android radios and i was already reading a lot.. not just to make a decision which one i should by also to learn about problems, tricks and so on. And im sure, i will have some questions in the future I never had an android radio before and I had a conflict with my wife.. I like a big screen, 10 inch for example which always is a out of dash display but she dont like them. The biggest in dash i could have is a 9 inch unit. I did not found a lot vendors, only dasaita and joying. The radio is for our mercedes 906 sprinter van.
Dasaita: HA2152-Vivid10-CP-HD
https://www.dasaita.com/products/da...o-px6-4g-64g-android10-1280-720-dsp-ahd-radio
Joying: JY-UQ139N4G-H
https://www.joyingauto.eu/android-10-double-din-car-stereo-replacement-4g-lte-radio.html
What i need:
- good sound, it is basically a radio (min. 4x50 W output)
- DSP
- 2 Din (i was reading about over heating problems at 1 din units)
- wireless car play
- good FM receiver chip
As far as I know, the Joying is using the UIS7862, Dasaita PX6. After all i was reading here in the forum, I would prefer the Dasaita because of the PX6. The only problem: there are almost no information about the radio on their website. Which one would you buy and why? Is there anybody with experience of the Dasaita headunit? Are there better alternatives?
Best regards

hyxamp said:
Hi,
im very new to android radios and i was already reading a lot.. not just to make a decision which one i should by also to learn about problems, tricks and so on. And im sure, i will have some questions in the future I never had an android radio before and I had a conflict with my wife.. I like a big screen, 10 inch for example which always is a out of dash display but she dont like them. The biggest in dash i could have is a 9 inch unit. I did not found a lot vendors, only dasaita and joying. The radio is for our mercedes 906 sprinter van.
Dasaita: HA2152-Vivid10-CP-HD
https://www.dasaita.com/products/da...o-px6-4g-64g-android10-1280-720-dsp-ahd-radio
Joying: JY-UQ139N4G-H
https://www.joyingauto.eu/android-10-double-din-car-stereo-replacement-4g-lte-radio.html
What i need:
- good sound, it is basically a radio (min. 4x50 W output)
- DSP
- 2 Din (i was reading about over heating problems at 1 din units)
- wireless car play
- good FM receiver chip
As far as I know, the Joying is using the UIS7862, Dasaita PX6. After all i was reading here in the forum, I would prefer the Dasaita because of the PX6. The only problem: there are almost no information about the radio on their website. Which one would you buy and why? Is there anybody with experience of the Dasaita headunit? Are there better alternatives?
Best regards
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Hi, prior to buying it I would ask sellers of this device to give you specs of device. And ask them in a way in which them must be clear that you are serious buyer not some naive buyer.
You will be much pleased with your answers.

Hi anton,
yes I was already asking yesterday for some more information but I expect that this unit is not completely different to the PX6 devices, which are more described in detail. Im still waiting for an answer.

I am also looking for a hu for a sprinter van and am looking at these. These seem very expensive compared to some of the other models out there. Is it only because that are made for Mercedes?

hyxamp said:
Hi anton,
yes I was already asking yesterday for some more information but I expect that this unit is not completely different to the PX6 devices, which are more described in detail. Im still waiting for an answer.
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If no reply use net / forum guides and reviews for varius devices priror to buying

SeattleMatt said:
I am also looking for a hu for a sprinter van and am looking at these. These seem very expensive compared to some of the other models out there. Is it only because that are made for Mercedes?
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Difference is in chipset and prices ...
Mediatek devices are cheaper but full of bugs and much slower units
Qualcomm / Snapdragon units are now top stuff, much faster even with 2x32 GB of memory, everything is connected online , updating , helpdesk etc.
Mediatek devices - Chinese modified - has been reported that they are using some illegal softwares (pirated)
There is a third option , it is "do it yourself" type of device , you order specific device for model of a car, and unit is perfectly adjusted to any of the car model you want (with Qualcomm or older Mediatek chipsets), but it is much expensive rather than standard aftermarket units.
There is a link if you want to configure unit by your needs :
Check this site ... https://www.made-in-china.com
You contact them and they configure your device and order, price is told on end and + shipping.
Ie. like this order - for older cars below 2011 and with dahboard lcd control unit... https://witson.en.made-in-china.com...-Peugeot-407-Silver-Frame-1080P-HD-Video.html
or for Benz
https://witson.en.made-in-china.com...o-Output-to-Sub-Monitor-Like-Mirror-Link.html

Have you looked at the Teyes? https://teyes.com.au/collections/cc...d-10-no-2din-2-din-dvd?variant=38046855495876

Hi,
i was ordering the Dasaita. Had some contact but still not very much information about the device. The unit comes with PX6 and i guess there are not very much differences compared to the well described devices on their page. Lets see when it arrives (guess 4 weeks). They will also send me a unit with vivid11 which is not yet offered in the store. They confirmed that this device will fit into my 2015 sprinter even if the description is only labeled up to 2012. Im not surprised. Im wondering if the can will work but that is not much important to me.

hyxamp said:
Hi,
i was ordering the Dasaita. Had some contact but still not very much information about the device. The unit comes with PX6 and i guess there are not very much differences compared to the well described devices on their page. Lets see when it arrives (guess 4 weeks). They will also send me a unit with vivid11 which is not yet offered in the store. They confirmed that this device will fit into my 2015 sprinter even if the description is only labeled up to 2012. Im not surprised. Im wondering if the can will work but that is not much important to me.
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When arrives ,put toghether and test, test , test everything... And results errors etc. report to your seller...
If has online updates, seller will give bug reports to technicians and they will update system or release updates with fixes for your device.