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I don't know how long you guys are planning to keep your phone for, but I've seen so many people spend like crazy money on accessories on top of your device. eg.
$500 for the Fuze
$30 for bodyguardz protector (i want to buy just 1 piece for the back cover... but they don't sell it separately... can anyone draw me a pattern of that piece?)
$30 for an Innocase Surface - Black
$50 for a 16GB microSD
$30 for TV out cable
.... etc
By experience with the Tilt, I've only kept the phone for 10 months. In average, I change phone every years... and not all of those accessories will fit on your next phone. So why spending so much on something that you'll get rid off soon?
This is just out of curiosity, no finger pointing or judgment... I think it's fun to see who's the biggest spender here.
As for me, here are what I've spent so far on my Fuze
$550 for my Fuze
$10 for an N95 Case with wallet (which fit the phone nicely)
$15 for an 8GB microSD, Class 6 Trenscend
$10 for a desktop charger + extra battery
$15 for the rubber back cover on expansys
$10 for a stylus with Ballpoint Pen... but I'm still waiting, it should costs around $5 once it hit eBay.
----For a total of $600----
and i find this is quite expensive for a new phone. Hopefully in a few months I'm still able to sell the phone for a good price. I only buy what I really need.
$200 for Fuze via Amazon
$50 for 16gb SanDisk MicroSD
$8 for leather side flip case w/ magnetic latch
LOTS of freeware and recycled apps from my 8525
Fuze--Free
8gb san disk--35.00
Leather case-- Free
Seidio Innocase holster and surface--Free
T.v Out --30.00
Special Orange AT&T Sim--Free
Bodyguardz--Free
So a total of 65.00
so far $199 for my Fuze and nothing else. Looking to get a case and a screen protector as I already had an 8 GB card.
Fuze--$400 on Craigslist
Seidio Innocase --$30
Screen Protectors --$10
$300 for Fuze
$10 for Case on ebay
$18 for 8gb card through online deal
so far.....
Where are the big boys?
$350, officially, for the Fuze. No contract, employee purchase. Subtract $50 for AT&T gift cards earned through sales program. Ditto for the SDHC's.
Phone (Net): $300
8GB MicroSD: $0
Total: $300
The Tilt lasted me 7 months. The E71 was my main phone for ~4 months. Hopefully this one will actually last me until the next HTC flagship lands on AT&T.
Fuze:150 with 150 rebate through Justtalk.com
Fuze:Free- net price
8gb kingston class 4
with extra mini Usb adapter: $20
Screen/body cover: $10 (still in mail)
Usb or bluetooth stereo headset: TBA when i find a good one. would love some recomedations on either one.
$400 - Fuze - No contract
$15 - 2 1340 Mah OEM batteries
$15 - Video Out Cable
$18.50 - Invisible Shield
Planning on selling in December when I am eligable for an upgrade, where I will snag the latest phone from HTC.
1 Fuze $399 - No contract.
1 Fuze $199 - 2 yr. contract.
Everything else I already had.
-Mc
$0 but new activation w/2 year commitment on the Cyber Monday after Black Friday through Premier sale.
KD8DNS said:
Fuze--Free
8gb san disk--35.00
Leather case-- Free
Seidio Innocase holster and surface--Free
T.v Out --30.00
Special Orange AT&T Sim--Free
Bodyguardz--Free
So a total of 65.00
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Wow. Why so free? :| I despise you. You get too many free stuff. Get me a free Seidio innocaes holster and surface >:|
ATT Fuze x 2 = $70
BodyGuardz = $30
Leather case x2 = $15
Orange SIM card (Didn't know it was special ) = Free
DIY TV Out = Free
Total: $115
Kraize said:
Wow. Why so free? :| I despise you. You get too many free stuff. Get me a free Seidio innocaes holster and surface >:|
ATT Fuze x 2 = $70
BodyGuardz = $30
Leather case x2 = $15
Orange SIM card (Didn't know it was special ) = Free
DIY TV Out = Free
Total: $115
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I have acquired many friends in the wireless industry over a 13 year career, and I take care of them and they take care of me. By the way you should see all the free stuff I received when I was at the CES show.
KD8DNS said:
I have acquired many friends in the wireless industry over a 13 year career, and I take care of them and they take care of me. By the way you should see all the free stuff I received when I was at the CES show.
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Ummm...I'll gladly take some of that stuff of your hands...you know if.. it's starting to get cluthered around your house..
bennyj71 said:
Ummm...I'll gladly take some of that stuff of your hands...you know if.. it's starting to get cluthered around your house..
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Mostly Shirts, Hats, Pens, Golf Balls, promo stuff. Then there is the cool stuff like the wireless induction charger, car chargers, cases, gift certificates from restaurants, Atomic clock, Rugged Bluetooth earpiece, Jump Drives, Lazer Pointers. The all you can eat and drink party from NOKIA. Oh yea and the IPHONE that was live and I went to jailbreakme.com on ( that was funny ). And the whole trip was complements of my employer and all you FINE at&t customers. Keep paying that bill so i can get ripped at CTIA.
Here is some more, I hooked the Nintendo dude up with a refurb tilt and boy did he hook me up.
KD8DNS said:
Here is some more, I hooked the Nintendo dude up with a refurb tilt and boy did he hook me up.
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It's freaking cool dude.
I would love to go to those show, but just never got a chance to.
Let me know when is the next one ok?
pandaboyy said:
How much did you guys pay for your Fuze, up to today?
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I paid nothing. Got my Fuze for free and I'm not even an AT&T customer.
Fuze - $0
Screen Protector- $0
Charger - $0
USB Cable - $0
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Grand Total - $0 = FREE
Fuze $250 (after $100 instant rebate + $50 mail-in)
4GB SD $2 (Biglots is actually worth something for once! Whudathunk?)
AT&T Leather pouch $10
Car charger -Free- (Won it in a drawing)
I can't belive how overpriced this keyboard is! I want to sell my laptop now that I have this, but the keyboard is super overpriced! $150... for what? A keyboard, Synaptics touchpad, a USB port, power connector and a battery.
K so here's a keyboard...
http://cgi.ebay.com/HP-Pavilion-DV6...86?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item414b083df2
$14
The batteries would be about $30 total(3.7v * 2, $15 each)
Touchpad - http://cgi.ebay.com/Gateway-MX6000-...840?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27bb7aa9f8
And let's say the main interface PCB is an extra $15(connects everything together inside)
$25 for the chassis(that is a gigantic overestimate)
$84 total... not including R&D, etc.
So I think $110 is a fair price, no?
36% profit margin
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So I think $110 is a fair price, no?
36% profit margin
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I suspect you will find that, in the US at least, the cost of the keyboard effectively subsidises the tablet.
$399 for the tablet, vs £379 in the UK, but in the UK you can get the keyboard bundled with the tablet for £429.
When you take the UK VAT of 20% out of the equation, the total cost for the tablet+keyboard is broadly similar between the US and the UK, but only if you buy the bundle in the UK (or got the keyboard via the ilovekeyboards offer).
I can only imagine that the marketing guys assume that US purchasers are likely to buy the keyboard so price the tablet very competitively, making up any "shortfall" via the keyboard.
You should also remember in your calculations that you've not considered distribution costs, or the retailers profit margin which is quite separate from Asus's.
Regards,
Dave
If you think that it's as simple as finding a USB keyboard, a touchpad and a battery, you really don't understand what it takes to design the unit as a whole - the chassis, the cover, the internal components, how they all fit together, the different materials, and then assembling the whole thing.
It is NOT as simple as buying a USB keyboard and touchpad at Fry's and a battery at a hobby store.
I could go into economies of scale... basically that a generic USB keyboard can work with many THOUSANDS of different types of computers out there, so many get sold offsetting the cost of development and production.
Put it like this - a company designs a USB keyboard and spends $100k doing so (design, styling, getting molds made for the plastic parts, etc, etc, etc,) and then sells them for $50 each, they'd need to sell 2000 of them just to break even with what they have already spent. This is easier with a universal device, because as mentioned above, it will work with THOUSANDS of different computers.
Now imagine the same thing, but the keyboard can only work with ONE type of computer, and there simply aren't thousands out there. You have to price the unit so that it can cover it's cost of development, at least. Why should a company take a loss just to get you something you want? It shouldn't.
This is really simple economics and production. What are they teaching kids in school these days?!?!
FrayAdjacent said:
This is really simple economics and production. What are they teaching kids in school these days?!?!
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It isn't helped by companies like iSuppli calculating the component cost of a product (e.g. iPhone 4 here), which is then erroneously posted as the cost to make the product when in reality it is just the cost of the bill of materials, and fails to take into consideration all the other "intangible" costs which are likely to be more than the total BoM cost in the first place.
Regards,
Dave
Oh look I can buy hops, yeast, malt & water and make a keg of beer for £5 or I can go to the pub in London and pay that for a pint… Since when does adding up the ingredients = the price of the finished product?
HP charge upto £70 for a laptop battery – you don’t ***** that a pair of AA batteries only cost £4!!
foxmeister said:
I suspect you will find that, in the US at least, the cost of the keyboard effectively subsidises the tablet.
$399 for the tablet, vs £379 in the UK, but in the UK you can get the keyboard bundled with the tablet for £429.
When you take the UK VAT of 20% out of the equation, the total cost for the tablet+keyboard is broadly similar between the US and the UK, but only if you buy the bundle in the UK (or got the keyboard via the ilovekeyboards offer).
I can only imagine that the marketing guys assume that US purchasers are likely to buy the keyboard so price the tablet very competitively, making up any "shortfall" via the keyboard.
You should also remember in your calculations that you've not considered distribution costs, or the retailers profit margin which is quite separate from Asus's.
Regards,
Dave
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+1, adding only £50 to the overall price if you get the tablet/keyboard bundle instead of the tablet only is a very good deal in my book - and I should know, because I just bought into that deal this week from eBuyer .
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What are they teaching kids in school these days?!?!
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Funny ....
Considering the tablet has no usb port, it stands to reason that one could be enticed (or forced?) to get the dock. Of course, this will change once the usb adapter becomes available. But looks like asus is dilly-dallying in order to sell more docks? Who knows.....
leonpr said:
HP charge upto £70 for a laptop battery – you don’t ***** that a pair of AA batteries only cost £4!!
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lol I bought a replacement laptop battery off amazon for $22 - HP dv6700z
The price I stated is very reasonable. It includes R&D and distribution cost. It costs a lot more to get a single part as a consumer than it does when you order 20,000 parts from a manufacturer. I used consumer pricing with a large buffer for chassis cost + R&D.
Anyone who posted actually work in manufacturing? I agree with the 2nd post, the keyboard is probably offsetting the cost of the tablet. The tablet is very competitively priced.
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If you think that it's as simple as finding a USB keyboard, a touchpad and a battery, you really don't understand what it takes to design the unit as a whole - the chassis, the cover, the internal components, how they all fit together, the different materials, and then assembling the whole thing.
It is NOT as simple as buying a USB keyboard and touchpad at Fry's and a battery at a hobby store.
I could go into economies of scale... basically that a generic USB keyboard can work with many THOUSANDS of different types of computers out there, so many get sold offsetting the cost of development and production.
Put it like this - a company designs a USB keyboard and spends $100k doing so (design, styling, getting molds made for the plastic parts, etc, etc, etc,) and then sells them for $50 each, they'd need to sell 2000 of them just to break even with what they have already spent. This is easier with a universal device, because as mentioned above, it will work with THOUSANDS of different computers.
Now imagine the same thing, but the keyboard can only work with ONE type of computer, and there simply aren't thousands out there. You have to price the unit so that it can cover it's cost of development, at least. Why should a company take a loss just to get you something you want? It shouldn't.
This is really simple economics and production. What are they teaching kids in school these days?!?!
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It really is that simple. You obviously haven't designed anything. You start with the chassis, then look at what components are available from different vendors. In large orders you can have the parts customized(touchpad, keyboard). You send the specifications off to the engineers who use a generally available board and write firmware that will interface with each component. Once the electronics are working, it is redesigned to fit in the chassis.
You obviously don't have a rapid prototyping machine. Mine can spit out a usable 3D model in ABS plastic in 2 hours.
And I think you missed the part where Asus is shipping 300,000 of these tablets in June alone. That's 10% of Asus' revenue for the month.
The keyboard is an awesome price for the integration with native android buttons, battery, usb host mode, touchpad which is not a standard android feature (afaik) etc.
It also functions as a dock, that pivots.
The original post has ridiculous logic by the way.
leonpr said:
Oh look I can buy hops, yeast, malt & water and make a keg of beer for £5 or I can go to the pub in London and pay that for a pint…
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FTW!!! Cheers, mate.
glg
Reminds me of a story from long ago when I was in the jewelry industry. A man brought in his watch for repair, the repairman said it needed cleaning, and would cost $10. The customer went into a frenzy over the cost, stating "you couldn't use more than a nickel's worth of cleaning solution to clean something so small." The repairman calmly walked to the back of the store where the cleaning machines were, and returned with a small bottle filled with liquid. "What is that?" asked the customer. "This is a nickel's worth of cleaning solution, which I will happily give to you at no charge," replied the repairman. "I don't know how to clean a watch," was the customer's angry reply. "That is what the other $9.95 is for," replied the repairman. True story, the customer stormed out of the store.
Feel free to build yourself a keyboard/dock, and save yourself a few bucks.
Aryantes said:
The keyboard is an awesome price for the integration with native android buttons, battery, usb host mode, touchpad which is not a standard android feature (afaik) etc.
It also functions as a dock, that pivots.
The original post has ridiculous logic by the way.
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+1 - acer is selling a keyboard dock for the iconia, 100 bucks, cant be docked as netbook and no battery. Its all about R&D costs. You want ridiculous markup, look at all these tabs charging 100 bucks extra to add an extra 16g to them.
To the OP if you can design and build and deliver these for 100 please do so i'm sure we'll all buy one.;-)
The cost of many things (especially luxury items, which this is) has almost exactly nothing to do with what they cost to make.
Asus put the price point where they did because it's what their marketing department calculated to be the best place for it. That's pretty much it.
Think about it. A pair of Gucci blue jeans doesn't have $100+ worth of material in them over a $20 pair of Levi jeans.
Asus charges ~$150 for the dock because it's a niche item, and they can set the price at whatever they want to.
Oh yeah.. I can probably dig for some iron/copper ores make everything out from it...
Another ridiculou post...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1133706
lololololol
Totally worth $150... I'll stick with my mechanical keyboards
chatch15117 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1133706
lololololol
Totally worth $150... I'll stick with my mechanical keyboards
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Thats up to you of course but you do realise that thread is basically 1 person who dislikes the keyboard and is asking why he can't find any other posts on the internet saying the same thing right? Prob like the lack of threads complaining about its cost either - some people are never pleased heh
iPad or Galaxy tab keyboard: 70 euro. Those are keyboards with a dock connector. Now a keyboard, trackpad, USB hub, sd reader, extra battery. Considering the TF + dock bundle it's 100 euro.
Sounds kinda good to me.
Not to mention that those are extra stuff to carry, while in the TF case it's more practical as it ends up being a single gadget.
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I'm with the thinking that Asus is using Dock sales to increase the overall profit margin on the whole product. None of Asus's tablet only competitors are coming close to where they are on the $399 price for the tablet only, and Asus has a nice ips display, microsd & hdmi. This isn't to say that Asus is selling the tablet only at a loss -- just at a much tighter margin, and making up the difference selling the dock a heftier markup.
I'm not complaining because the dock is a compelling product that integrates VERY well with the tablet, so the overall price ($550) seems pretty reasonable to me and those that want just a tablet are getting a pretty good deal indeed...
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You want ridiculous markup, look at all these tabs charging 100 bucks extra to add an extra 16g to them.
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Its onboard nand flash, likely Samsung chips. Not some cheap ass Class 2 card. Id like to see a performance comparision between r/w on internal memory vs the best 16 gig micro SDHC card.
chatch15117 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1133706
lololololol
Totally worth $150... I'll stick with my mechanical keyboards
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Mine works fine and, as the link shows in my post, it seems that everyone else is having trouble putting the ASUS functionality in the cheaper dock. The closest thing the ipad gets still has to use bluetooth, doesnt have any expanded storage connectivity options and is touchpadless:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/14/clamcase-ipad-keyboard-case-review/
Mine got bitten up by a dog. Anyone wanna sell me theirs? Thanks!
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Have a spare, sent mine back twice and got a charger each time.
i have an extra one
Go buy a charging dock from Verizon. It includes a standard charger and they are on clearance right now for $9.97. Even if you don't use the dock it'd chapter than just buying the charger which for some reason is still $30. I also heard Staples had Xoom accessories on sale for super cheap.
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ebay has plenty. I bought a non OEM one for $10 (they included a car chager as well). also bought an official moto one of ebay for $8 this past week as a backup.
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ebay has plenty. I bought a non OEM one for $10 (they included a car chager as well). also bought an official moto one of ebay for $8 this past week as a backup.
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I can't use eBay looking for someone with an extra for sale
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I have one but it probably wouldn't be worth it to you by the time shipping costs are included. As stated, just go to a Verizon store and get one for 10 bucks.
z06mike said:
I have one but it probably wouldn't be worth it to you by the time shipping costs are included. As stated, just go to a Verizon store and get one for 10 bucks.
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Got one from the vzn store!! Thanks man. Dock for $15 and leather folio case for the same price
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I know the OP was able to grab what they needed from Verizon, but for others who may be looking, another option is the HD Speaker Dock. If you can FIND one, they're going for $20 new from Verizon as clearance (prolly to make room for the Xyboard accessories). I went in person to a VW store and lucked out, getting the last one they had. I don't think (not willing to try it) you can plug the more powerful power source straight into the Xoom itself as an alternative to using the dock, but I have to say having the HDMI port in the back of the dock and the speakers is pretty nice, at $20 a pop.
I picked up a couple at a local Staples for $1.50 each. I have one extra I don't really see using.
If you're local in central CT I'd happy to give it away to someone who would use it.
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I assume to compete with Nexus10 launch, Tesco are now selling the Galaxy Note 10.1 for £319. I'll still waiting until I can try a N exus10 in PC World but it makes the choice more interesting.
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Lumsdoni said:
I assume to compete with Nexus10 launch, Tesco are now selling the Galaxy Note 10.1 for £319. I'll still waiting until I can try a N exus10 in PC World but it makes the choice more interesting.
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You can also get 4.5% cashback, and £10 off for being a new Tesco Direct customer via Quidco. Plus Samsung are doing £50 cashback by redemption the looks of things. So that makes it equiv to £235 by my calculations.
GREAT!
Thanks for the info, I've been holding out buying a tablet - was looking at the Surface (beautiful looking tablet), and the N10, but couldn't justify the prices.
The Tesco discount, plus the Quido discount and cashback, along with Samsung cashback, made the Note 10.1 so irresistible! The total I've paid for it was £308. Picking it up next week from the local Tesco Extra, and the money I saved went straight on Amazon to get a case and USB adapters lol.
:laugh::laugh::laugh:
Now I have something to play with when I'm flying end of this month, and a place to back up my photos.
cheeseburgers said:
Thanks for the info, I've been holding out buying a tablet - was looking at the Surface (beautiful looking tablet), and the N10, but couldn't justify the prices.
The Tesco discount, plus the Quido discount and cashback, along with Samsung cashback, made the Note 10.1 so irresistible! The total I've paid for it was £308. Picking it up next week from the local Tesco Extra, and the money I saved went straight on Amazon to get a case and USB adapters lol.
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Now I have something to play with when I'm flying end of this month, and a place to back up my photos.
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I'm seriously thinking about going tonight to get it, the lack of HDMI out is holding me back though. Although I suppose the money saved could go on an allshare cast hub
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I'm seriously thinking about going tonight to get it, the lack of HDMI out is holding me back though. Although I suppose the money saved could go on an allshare cast hub
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Assuming you're referring to Galaxy Note 10.1, it does have HDMI out with adapter.
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Assuming you're referring to Galaxy Note 10.1, it does have HDMI out with adapter.
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Yep, it does, they're like £25 each on Amazon.
That is very interesting.. thanks for the update OP. Just made my Xmas present selection a whole lot harder
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Just recently bought an SM-T555 for a steal on Ebay, it's mint condition and works perfectly except I bought it with a known display issue.
Basically it had what looked like a large pressure mark on the lcd screen (looked like trapped moisture).
Upon further investigation after disassembly it seems the battery has swelled causing pressure on the screen.
Has anyone got any suggestions for a cheap but decent replacement battery where I can buy in the UK?
Looked on Ebay but I don't accept that the so called 'GENUINE' SAMSUNG batteries on Ebay are actually genuine.
However if anyone has purchased let me know.
Try buying it from Samsung?
BajaBlast4Life said:
Try buying it from Samsung?
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Thing is I bought the tablet for £65 in mint condition except for the large pressure mark.
Considering the price I paid I don't want to negate that by purchasing an expensive battery.
BajaBlast4Life said:
Try buying it from Samsung?
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Every thing you get from Samsung is overpriced. They get supplies from China manufacturers.
You can get almost every part with Samsung logo on it from Ebay, cheapest price is always from China.
Accessories like S Pen, Samsung sells it around $20 but you can get it from Ali Express for only $2/each.
Sending a tablet to Samsung to get a LCD replaced, you have to pay at least $250, but buying online by yourself, it only costs around $90.
A tablet with broken USB port, expect to pay Samsung over $100 to get it fixed, buy it yourself, it costs only 50 cents.