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I just got my fire 10 couple of days ago and i was successfully able to adb uninstall some of the amazon apps.
but the next morning, the os updated 5.6 and after a couple of successful adb uninstall, it suddenly gave me an error: "Failure [DELETE_FAILED_INTERNAL_ERROR]"
it seems like some of the app can be uninstalled but most cant be.
is anyone able to do this on os 5.6?
and are there any other ways to disable some of the apps?
zerotg90 said:
I just got my fire 10 couple of days ago and i was successfully able to adb uninstall some of the amazon apps.
but the next morning, the os updated 5.6 and after a couple of successful adb uninstall, it suddenly gave me an error: "Failure [DELETE_FAILED_INTERNAL_ERROR]"
it seems like some of the app can be uninstalled but most cant be.
is anyone able to do this on os 5.6?
and are there any other ways to disable some of the apps?
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doesn't work on 5.6, forget it for now... tried everything I could and read a lot, always get the same error you got... patience
I did the same, device shipped with 5.4.1.0, I uninstalled a bunch of system apps via adb (apparently not the correct ota app), came home from work and saw that it had updated to 5.6.0.0 and attempted to uninstall more apps (the correct ota one) and received the same error. I had successfully installed the Play Store and Nova Launcher prior but I'm worried about future updates breaking the nice set up I currently have. Here's hoping someone can get us root access. If not, I'm content with the tablet in it's current state. Great for $100.
woundedworld said:
I did the same, device shipped with 5.4.1.0, I uninstalled a bunch of system apps via adb (apparently not the correct ota app), came home from work and saw that it had updated to 5.6.0.0 and attempted to uninstall more apps (the correct ota one) and received the same error. I had successfully installed the Play Store and Nova Launcher prior but I'm worried about future updates breaking the nice set up I currently have. Here's hoping someone can get us root access. If not, I'm content with the tablet in it's current state. Great for $100.
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which OTA did you uninstall if you happen to remember? mine is running the same version and i want to prevent updates.
Uninstall OTA
phanguy said:
which OTA did you uninstall if you happen to remember? mine is running the same version and i want to prevent updates.
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The following two commands worked on Fire HD8 (7th Gen) with OS 5.3.3.0. It should work for Fire HD10 with OS 5.4.0.0 :
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota
Dan_firehd said:
The following two commands worked on Fire HD8 (7th Gen) with OS 5.3.3.0. It should work for Fire HD10 with OS 5.4.0.0 :
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota
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Thanks. My only problem/concern now is that I'm on the same version as woundedworld which is 5.4.1.0 and I have no idea where I can find a download for 5.4.0.0 to attempt to downgrade. I may give the commands a shot on mine tonight and hope for the best. Thanks!
Dan_firehd said:
The following two commands worked on Fire HD8 (7th Gen) with OS 5.3.3.0. It should work for Fire HD10 with OS 5.4.0.0 :
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota
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On FireOS 5.6.0.0 it will give you FAILURE.
But you can instead use two following commands:
pm clear --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota
pm clear --user 0 com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota
Tested it on my FireHD10 (2017) with FireOS 5.6.0.0 and it seemed it worked
Tomatenjoghurt said:
On FireOS 5.6.0.0 it will give you FAILURE.
But you can instead use two following commands:
pm clear --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota
pm clear --user 0 com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota
Tested it on my FireHD10 (2017) with FireOS 5.6.0.0 and it seemed it worked
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"Clear" just clears user data for the packages, but leaves both intact. Meaning, this doesn't uninstall anything.
scolfaro said:
"Clear" just clears user data for the packages, but leaves both intact. Meaning, this doesn't uninstall anything.
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No, but it's helpful if you connect to wifi and it starts downloading an ota package.
crazyates said:
No, but it's helpful if you connect to wifi and it starts downloading an ota package.
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well, seeing that we're on 5.6.0.0, it might be too late for that as well
scolfaro said:
well, seeing that we're on 5.6.0.0, it might be too late for that as well
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Well in case you want to prevent future updates, obviously. Or for anyone who isn't you that wants to prevent updating to 5.6.0.0.
Side note: I'm on 5.4.0.1 on my HD 8 (2017). I can't uninstall OTA & Forced OTA apks, but I have them blocked with No Root Firewall. I also have lock screen Special Offers blocked with No Root Firewall. I have Nova Launcher, Hijacklauncher v3, and Google Play Store. Is there any reason I should stay at 5.4.0.1, or does it not make a difference if I upgrade to 5.6.0.0? I'd still have Google Play, Nova Launcher, hijacklauncher, and blocked special offers, so what am I gaining by staying at 5.4.0.1?
crazyates said:
Well in case you want to prevent future updates, obviously. Or for anyone who isn't you that wants to prevent updating to 5.6.0.0.
Side note: I'm on 5.4.0.1 on my HD 8 (2017). I can't uninstall OTA & Forced OTA apks, but I have them blocked with No Root Firewall. I also have lock screen Special Offers blocked with No Root Firewall. I have Nova Launcher, Hijacklauncher v3, and Google Play Store. Is there any reason I should stay at 5.4.0.1, or does it not make a difference if I upgrade to 5.6.0.0? I'd still have Google Play, Nova Launcher, hijacklauncher, and blocked special offers, so what am I gaining by staying at 5.4.0.1?
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"No Root Firewall" seems to be great and very useful, just installed it (provided it isn't doing anything "funny" with all the data it's funneling)... Do you have any idea about this?
Hey guys,
I am having a problem updating Kindle apps via Playstore. I get the dreaded unable to update error message 505. Also, my device is not listed in the list of devices on Playstore. This occurs on all my Kindle devices which I have the current HD 8 and 10 with software v5.6.00. Any one help me out? Thanks.
scolfaro said:
"No Root Firewall" seems to be great and very useful, just installed it (provided it isn't doing anything "funny" with all the data it's funneling)... Do you have any idea about this?
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I don't think it is. It shows up to the system as a fake vpn, but I don't believe it reroutes that data anywhere. The app hasn't been updated since November of 2014, but it still just works as intended.
tech6 said:
Hey guys,
I am having a problem updating Kindle apps via Playstore. I get the dreaded unable to update error message 505. Also, my device is not listed in the list of devices on Playstore. This occurs on all my Kindle devices which I have the current HD 8 and 10 with software v5.6.00. Any one help me out? Thanks.
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I get the same thing to, but I'm on 5.4.0.1. The play store doesn't have the permissions to overwrite the kindle app that comes on the phone. I'm guessing there's nothing we can do about it at this point?
Ok, that makes sense. Thank you for your input.
Kindle updated again and I see where the Kindle app has updated from version 10... to version 14.... What's interesting about this is although Amazon has updated the Kindle tab, it does not have the same features as the Kindle app offered on the Playstore which is version 8.... Supposedly, we can chose a dark or light theme among other things. However, the Amazon update did not have those features in the updated Kindle app.
crazyates said:
I don't think it is. It shows up to the system as a fake vpn, but I don't believe it reroutes that data anywhere. The app hasn't been updated since November of 2014, but it still just works as intended.
I get the same thing to, but I'm on 5.4.0.1. The play store doesn't have the permissions to overwrite the kindle app that comes on the phone. I'm guessing there's nothing we can do about it at this point?
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crazyates said:
Well in case you want to prevent future updates, obviously. Or for anyone who isn't you that wants to prevent updating to 5.6.0.0.
Side note: I'm on 5.4.0.1 on my HD 8 (2017). I can't uninstall OTA & Forced OTA apks, but I have them blocked with No Root Firewall. I also have lock screen Special Offers blocked with No Root Firewall. I have Nova Launcher, Hijacklauncher v3, and Google Play Store. Is there any reason I should stay at 5.4.0.1, or does it not make a difference if I upgrade to 5.6.0.0? I'd still have Google Play, Nova Launcher, hijacklauncher, and blocked special offers, so what am I gaining by staying at 5.4.0.1?
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I've installed NoRoot Firewall too. Could you please tell me what services must I definitely block so that I could prevent future OTA's from being shoved down my throat?
Also, I got the one with special offers, but to my surprise I still don't see ads on the lockscreen.
Dan_firehd said:
The following two commands worked on Fire HD8 (7th Gen) with OS 5.3.3.0. It should work for Fire HD10 with OS 5.4.0.0 :
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota
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Hi, I'm new to this. How/where do I do this?
Dankees said:
Hi, I'm new to this. How/where do I do this?
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You do this from the PC side via ADB interface.
Here is a link for more detailed explanation about
"pm uninstall ..." :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/tut-root-cleaner-android-experience-hd8-t3797327
Turning off Auto-Update Kindle Fire HD-10
Dan_firehd said:
The following two commands worked on Fire HD8 (7th Gen) with OS 5.3.3.0. It should work for Fire HD10 with OS 5.4.0.0 :
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota
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This will work on the FireHD 10 Gen7 w/version 5.6.2.0 too. I use Linux, but it should work the same in Windoze. You must use sudo or su to work as root otherwise it will fail.
USB-connect your Fire to a PC
in terminal:
adb shell
su
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota
Dan_firehd said:
The following two commands worked on Fire HD8 (7th Gen) with OS 5.3.3.0. It should work for Fire HD10 with OS 5.4.0.0 :
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota
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Success reported on a new Fire HD 10 with 5.6.2.0. How would I check?
A few days ago, I rooted my Amazon Fire HD 10 OS 5.6.0.0 with kingoroot. I've customized my tablet and removed a lot of the unnecessary Amazon apps. I really like how my Amazon Fire HD 10 looks right now and don't want to see it get messed up because of an update.
Is there any sure way to stop the Amazon Fire HD 10 from updating? I removed the DeviceSoftwareOTA.apk from the device already, but I've read elsewhere that simply removing the DeviceSoftwareOTA won't stop the updates from happening. Is there anything else I can do?
Yes, you also need to remove ForcedOTA (com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota). With both of these removed, no updates are possible.
From my experience on HD8 (7th Gen) on OS 5.3.3.0 since September :
Even though I could not root HD8, I was able to "pm uninstall" both com.amazon.device.software.ota and com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota
Since then, with WiFi connected everyday, it had never updated to a new version of Fire OS.
Since it is rooted, use ES File Explorer (change settings to give it root permission and show hidden files) and rename the file /system/etc/security/otacerts.zip. It uses this file to verify the updates. While you are at it, I need a copy of the otacerts.zip file if you don't mind. I am trying to restore mine and lost it during a factory restore.
Dan_firehd said:
From my experience on HD8 (7th Gen) on OS 5.3.3.0 since September :
Even though I could not root HD8, I was able to "pm uninstall" both com.amazon.device.software.ota and com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota
Since then, with WiFi connected everyday, it had never updated to a new version of Fire OS.
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what did you set user as I ran this command pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.otter.oobe.forced.ota and got user not found
ecwebster31 said:
what did you set user as I ran this command pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.otter.oobe.forced.ota and got user not found
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I am not sure what you are asking. I did not "set user".
The following were what I typed:
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota
69ragtop said:
Since it is rooted, use ES File Explorer (change settings to give it root permission and show hidden files) and rename the file /system/etc/security/otacerts.zip. It uses this file to verify the updates. While you are at it, I need a copy of the otacerts.zip file if you don't mind. I am trying to restore mine and lost it during a factory restore.
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ES File Explorer has become crapware. Try Amaze file manager... simple, compact, all you need without the unnecessary junk ES tries to foist on you now.
ecwebster31 said:
what did you set user as I ran this command pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.otter.oobe.forced.ota and got user not found
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try replacing 0 with current so: -k --user current
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota
I tried these two commands and I get a "failed to delete" message which I assume is because I have not rooted the tablet. There is an app called "Settings Database Editor". Does anyone have any experience with that? I used it to successfully disable the lock screen without rooting, but it looks like I'm going to have to take the plunge and root in order to block the OTA updates. (first time working with an android device)
ironlion37 said:
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota
I tried these two commands and I get a "failed to delete" message which I assume is because I have not rooted the tablet. There is an app called "Settings Database Editor". Does anyone have any experience with that? I used it to successfully disable the lock screen without rooting, but it looks like I'm going to have to take the plunge and root in order to block the OTA updates. (first time working with an android device)
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Most of the ability to disable system apps has been patched already. The command you posted above has long been patched. Settings Database Editor is great and powerful. You're lucky you got the lock.disable to work. 9 times out of 10 it doesn't.
So you are correct. Unless you got any of the known tools to work, the only way to truly stop OTA is to destroy the application that handles them. My HD 8 has been on 5.4.0.0 or less for 2 almost 3 years because the commands you posted above, totally disabled the app.
Sent from my Galaxy S4 using XDA Labs
ironlion37 said:
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota
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DragonFire1024 said:
My HD 8 has been on 5.4.0.0 or less for 2 almost 3 years because the commands you posted above, totally disabled the app.
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Good to know that these two commands is all what's needed. I was just able to successfully execute them on a mtk-su rooted Fire HD 10 "suez" running 5.6.4.0.
Just out of curiosity,
1. Does anybody know what "otter" and "oobe" are supposed to mean, i.e. what com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota is supposed to do?
2. Some people also recommend to get rid of com.amazon.device.software.ota.override — what does this do?
3. Why do some people also remove com.amazon.settings.systemupdates — this is helpful for checking the current OS version, right?
Thank you very much for all your work @DragonFire1024!
anon/droid said:
Good to know that these two commands is all what's needed. I was just able to successfully execute them on a mtk-su rooted Fire HD 10 "suez" running 5.6.4.0.
Just out of curiosity,
1. Does anybody know what "otter" and "oobe" are supposed to mean, i.e. what com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota is supposed to do?
2. Some people also recommend to get rid of com.amazon.device.software.ota.override — what does this do?
3. Why do some people also remove com.amazon.settings.systemupdates — this is helpful for checking the current OS version, right?
Thank you very much for all your work @DragonFire1024!
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The first and second one are applications that grabbed OTA updates sent by Amazon to update the system of your device.vI would assume if one application shuts down the other one takes over. But like most things you need one to work in order for the other to work. If you simply disabled the second one no OTA updates will be sent to your device that will upgrade or change Amazon system like giving you a new version of fire OS.
Removing the third one just disables your ability to tap on the system updates page in the settings application. it will not actually stop any update from taking place on the device if it's disabled. It just removes your ability to get anywhere near the update section or your ability to visually see what's going on there.
Legit s10+
I was following a guide on removing bloatware and removed via adb:
com.samsung.android.bixby.wakeup
com.samsung.android.app.spage
com.samsung.android.app.routines
com.samsung.android.bixby.service
com.samsung.android.visionintelligence
com.samsung.android.bixby.agent
com.samsung.android.bixby.agent.dummy
com.samsung.android.bixbyvision.framework
Car Mode
com.samsung.android.drivelink.stub
General System Services
com.dsi.ant.sample.acquirechannels
com.dsi.ant.service.socket
com.dsi.ant.server
com.dsi.ant.plugins.antplus
com.android.egg
com.sec.android.widgetapp.samsungapps
com.sec.android.app.launcher
com.samsung.android.mateagent
com.sec.android.easyMover.Agent
com.samsung.android.app.watchmanagerstub
com.sec.android.daemonapp
com.samsung.android.app.social
I restarted the phone and now I see the phone is starting screen. It's been a few minutes and nothings happening. Did I brick my phone
You removed the app launcher which basically is how your home page runs. Are you using another app launcher? If not you need to reinstall it somehow.
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People making lists of bloatware to remove should not be putting the app launcher on the list, its not bloatware. If you decide to download and use another app launcher, then you can remove the stock one.
Your phone is not bricked, worst case your reflash your phone. How did you root your phone? Stock recovery or twrp? Magisk?
If your using debloat in magisk to uninstall these and can get back there, it has a menu option to list what you removed and you can reinstall it that way.
In the future i only recommend removing 2 or 3 things at a time and restarting the phone.
Now that CCSW is dead, are there any good debloat ADB scripts around?
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What's CCSW?
a good foundation script
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/how-to/note-9-debloat-bash-script-t3907659
I used this one from the S20 thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s20/how-to/how-to-ultimate-adb-debloating-thread-t4089089
This new tool looks promising: ADB AppControl https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...easy-management-android-applications-t4147837
Good debloat script
raul6 said:
a good foundation script
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/how-to/note-9-debloat-bash-script-t3907659
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This is indeed a very good script from which to pick and choose what you debloat and is by far the best one I have found. What I like about it is that there is a helpful description of what the package does.
I have gone down the ADB debloat route with my Note 20 Ultra
bud7dha said:
This new tool looks promising: ADB AppControl https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...easy-management-android-applications-t4147837
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This worked way better then expected.
I'm not new to ADB, but having the simple GUI to see what you are doing is amazing.
Was able to de-bloat to my desire with no problems at all!
Thanks for sharing!
or you could use package disabler pro from the google store which is even easier.
umx said:
or you could use package disabler pro from the google store which is even easier.
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However, you have to keep re-puchasing it which is dull :crying:
pdagenius said:
However, you have to keep re-puchasing it which is dull :crying:
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I had to purchase for note 9, repurchase for s10 and purchase again for the Note 10 but that one has now worked for the s20 and the note 20. So keeping fingers crossed lol.
If you are on AT&T this might help. I just downloaded ADB and ran the commands below. I hate not having the option of removing apps!
I removed all AT&T preinstalled apps + Samsung Browser, Chrome, Flipboard, and OneDrive.
pm uninstall --user 0 flipboard.boxer.app
pm uninstall --user 0 com.att.callprotect
pm uninstall --user 0 com.att.thanks
pm uninstall --user 0 net.aetherpal.device
pm uninstall --user 0 com.att.iqi
pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.chrome
pm uninstall --user 0 com.att.personalcloud
pm uninstall --user 0 com.att.dh
pm uninstall --user 0 com.synchronoss.dcs.att.r2g
pm uninstall --user 0 com.att.myWireless
pm uninstall --user 0 com.att.mobilesecurity
pm uninstall --user 0 com.att.tv
pm uninstall --user 0 com.att.csoiam.mobilekey
pm uninstall --user 0 com.att.android.attsmartwifi
pm uninstall --user 0 com.sec.android.app.sbrowser
pm uninstall --user 0 com.sec.android.app.sbrowser
pm uninstall --user 0 com.dti.att
pm uninstall --user 0 com.microsoft.skydrive
umx said:
or you could use package disabler pro from the google store which is even easier.
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Was using CCSW but stopped working but went back to Package Disabler Pro. I am proficient with adb but don't want yo delete something with it and find out I now need it. Much easier to just disable the app and if for some reason you need it back just reenable it.
ggrant3876 said:
Was using CCSW but stopped working but went back to Package Disabler Pro. I am proficient with adb but don't want yo delete something with it and find out I now need it. Much easier to just disable the app and if for some reason you need it back just reenable it.
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i used to use ccsw they pulled his license not sure why. I prob disabled 80 or so things.. giving more like pure android after that.. and better battery
ggrant3876 said:
Was using CCSW but stopped working but went back to Package Disabler Pro. I am proficient with adb but don't want yo delete something with it and find out I now need it. Much easier to just disable the app and if for some reason you need it back just reenable it.
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From what I see for the Adb commands, the is a package install command which works in a similar way to disable /enable and therefore uninstall is not an issue as the package remains on your phone unless you are rooted.
If you are a little organised and keep a list of what you uninstalling it is not an issue in my opinion.
pdagenius said:
From what I see for the Adb commands, the is a package install command which works in a similar way to disable /enable and therefore uninstall is not an issue as the package remains on your phone unless you are rooted.
If you are a little organised and keep a list of what you uninstalling it is not an issue in my opinion.
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What I've seen on here before, sometimes they use this "pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.my.demo.app". I'm just a belts and suspenders kind of gut I guess!
I hope you already know this, but
If you brick your device it's your fault!
THIS METHOD IS ONLY TESTED BY ME AND DOES NOT WORK PERFECTLY
If you can help to make it work easier or more reliable, text me pls.
Not checked in Self-Check:
Fake Play Store (May work fine)
- Install any ROM and finish setup (Skip everything etc.) (Had to redo everything cause I didnt finish it. Could not get rid of the notification)
- Flash Magisk
If signatur spoofing is not enabled:
- In Magisk go to settings (top right icon) and enable 'Zygisk' option
- Then in Magisk go to Modules tab, click top button 'Install from storage' install LSPosed-(...)-zygisk-release.zip (has to be zygisk version)
- Install FakeGapps.apk like regular app
- Reboot
- Popup will came out that ask you to add shortcut icon to desktop for LSPosed, just add it and open it
- Go to Modules and enable FakeGApps
Signature spoofing should be enabled
- Uninstall Google apps:
(easy and safer) Uninstall via Universal Android Debloater.
(hard but completely removed) Via adb shell
- Go to Magisk and install MinMicroG-Standard as a Module
- Reboot
- Open microG Service Core and ensure all boxes are selected. The most important is signature spoofing - this is what LSPosed and FakeGapps is for.
For working push notifications go to microG Service Core app and enable Google devices registration and Cloud Messaging.
For working location at least two apps will be needed - MozillaNlpBackend and NominatimNlpBackend. After installing they need to be enabled in microG Service Core app (Location modules). Sometimes MozillaNlpBackend refuse to be enabled, then you just have to go to it's permissions and select "Allow all the time" for location permission.
For working SafetyNet additional Magisk module may be needed.
SMS and Location in background didn't work for me, reinstalled the microG installer module and it worked
To find out the id's I used App Inspector.
If you have any improvements let me know.
Thanks to:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MicroG/comments/wev56n/_/iirvvfu
Replacements needed (what I use)
!name => important
?name => want better alternative (foss)
%name => not f-droid
!Keyboard (FlorisBoard)
!Browser (Fennec)
!App store (NeoStore (aka FDroid) and Aurora Store)
Calculator (Simple Calculator)
Camera (Open Camera, Nothing's Camera)
Notes (Carnet)
Calendar (Etar)
Files (Material Files)
Weather (Geometric Weather)
Cloud (Nextcloud) Contact, Calendar and Todo sync via DAVx5
Mail (Tutanota)
SMS (Signal)
Maps (OsmAnd~)
?Contacts (Simple Contacts)
?Phone (Nothing yet)
App Id's of apps I uninstalled safely:
(your ROM could have more or less bloatware installed, text me the id's if you want)
com.google.android.gms
com.android.vending
com.google.android.as.oss
com.google.android.apps.restore
com.google.android.gms.policy_sidecar_aps
com.google.android.projection.gearhead
com.google.android.calculator
com.google.android.calendar
com.android.chrome
com.google.android.deskclock
com.google.android.dialer
com.google.android.apps.messaging
com.android.egg
com.android.printspooler
com.android.dreams.phototable
com.google.android.feedback
com.google.android.as
com.google.android.marvin.talkback
com.google.android.printservice.recommendation
com.android.bluetoothmidiservice
com.android.calllogbackup
com.google.android.configupdater
com.google.android.ext.shared
com.google.android.gsf
com.google.android.ims
com.google.android.syncadapters.calendar
com.android.gallery3d
com.google.android.apps.cameralite
com.google.android.apps.wellbeing
com.google.android.apps.docs
com.google.android.apps.nbu.files
com.google.android.inputmethod.latin
com.google.android.gm
com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox
com.google.android.apps.maps
com.google.android.apps.safetyhub
com.google.android.apps.photos
com.google.android.youtube
com.google.android.contacts
com.android.hotwordenrollment.okgoogle
com.android.hotwordenrollment.xgoogle
com.android.partnerbookmarks
com.android.traceur
com.google.android.gms.location.history
com.google.android.markup
com.google.android.onetimeinitializer
com.google.android.partnersetup
com.google.android.tag
com.google.android.gms.supervision
com.google.android.overlay.gmsconfig.asi
com.google.android.overlay.gmsconfig.common
com.google.android.overlay.gmsconfig.comms
com.google.android.overlay.gmsconfig.geotz
com.google.android.overlay.gmsconfig.gsa
com.google.android.overlay.gmsconfig.personalsafety
com.google.android.overlay.gmsconfig.photos
com.google.android.overlay.gmsconfig.gsa
com.google.android.soundpicker
com.google.android.tts
com.google.android.turboadapter
com.google.android.webview
com.google.android.settings.intelligence
com.google.android.apps.turbo
If you choose to uninstall via adb shell, this is how to uninstall everything listed above.
Use flag -k after uninstall to only remove the app and leave the cache.
pm uninstall com.google.android.gms
pm uninstall com.android.vending
pm uninstall com.google.android.as.oss
pm uninstall com.google.android.apps.restore
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.gms
pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.vending
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.as.oss
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.apps.restore
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.gms.policy_sidecar_aps
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.projection.gearhead
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.calculator
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.calendar
pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.chrome
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.deskclock
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.dialer
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.apps.messaging
pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.egg
pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.printspooler
pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.dreams.phototable
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.feedback
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.as
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.marvin.talkback
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.printservice.recommendation
pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.bluetoothmidiservice
pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.calllogbackup
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.configupdater
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.ext.shared
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.gsf
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.ims
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.syncadapters.calendar
pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.gallery3d
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.apps.cameralite
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.apps.wellbeing
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.apps.docs
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.apps.nbu.files
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.inputmethod.latin
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.gm
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.apps.maps
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.apps.safetyhub
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.apps.photos
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.youtube
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.contacts
pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.hotwordenrollment.okgoogle
pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.hotwordenrollment.xgoogle
pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.partnerbookmarks
pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.traceur
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.gms.location.history
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.markup
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.onetimeinitializer
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.partnersetup
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.tag
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.gms.supervision
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.overlay.gmsconfig.asi
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.overlay.gmsconfig.common
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.overlay.gmsconfig.comms
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.overlay.gmsconfig.geotz
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.overlay.gmsconfig.gsa
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.overlay.gmsconfig.personalsafety
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.overlay.gmsconfig.photos
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.overlay.gmsconfig.gsa
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.soundpicker
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.tts
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.turboadapter
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.webview
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.settings.intelligence
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.apps.turbo
Nice, thanks for this. I wondered how this was done without inbuilt sig spoofing.
How much google stuff did you uninstall?
dememted1 said:
Nice, thanks for this. I wondered how this was done without inbuilt sig spoofing.
How much google stuff did you uninstall?
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Updated it rn, but if you find more apps to uninstall safely (app id and use/name) please let me know
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Updated it rn, but if you find more apps to uninstall safely (app id and use/name) please let me know
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Thanks buddy. You are not a lover of Google too ?
dememted1 said:
Thanks buddy. You are not a lover of Google too ?
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I like to play around with IT stuff and privacy is important to me. Also I dont want a Google calculator xD
I'm thinking of buying Nothing's phone, but the only thing that keeps me away are google apps. Custom roms seem to be still in newborn age so I would like to stay with original, NothingOS.
Ive been running devices without google apps for years and it was benefit a lot battery life and privacy. I dont miss google and surly dont want to go back to it.
If I remove all google apps with Universal Android Debloater, will the phone work just fine without those apps? I dont want microG to be installed.
Zwijam_Dywan said:
I'm thinking of buying Nothing's phone, but the only thing that keeps me away are google apps. Custom roms seem to be still in newborn age so I would like to stay with original, NothingOS.
Ive been running devices without google apps for years and it was benefit a lot battery life and privacy. I dont miss google and surly dont want to go back to it.
If I remove all google apps with Universal Android Debloater, will the phone work just fine without those apps? I dont want microG to be installed.
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Sry I havent tried that and my phone is now in a state were I dont want to factory reset it till a microg rom comes out. Still Im very curios why you dont want to install microG
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Sry I havent tried that and my phone is now in a state were I dont want to factory reset it till a microg rom comes out. Still Im very curios why you dont want to install microG
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I do not have any specific reason to not install it. I had microg on /e/ rom previously on my oneplus 6t and it was just fine. I am running now oneplus 6t on lineage os without gapps and microG and it works absolutely fine. I just dont feel like I need it really. Thats all.
This guide is very similar to what I wrote on Redd... haha, I wasn't expecting that, thanks for mentioning me
I might add that this method is a little more secure than using ROM with signature spoothing + installing microG manually because FakeGapps allows to spoof signature for microG only, no other apps. Also all changes can be just disabled either by uninstalling Magisk or disabling modules in Safe Mode in case of issues.
And of course there is nothing specific in this method for Nothing Phone, I successfully use it on my other devices with stock ROMs or LineageOS.
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Install stock ROM and finish setup (Skip everything etc.) (Had to redo everything cause I didnt finish it. Could not get rid of the notification)
Flash Magisk
In Magisk go to settings (top right icon) and enable 'Zygisk' option
Then in Magisk go to Modules tab, click top button 'Install from storage' install LSPosed-(...)-zygisk-release.zip (has to be zygisk version)
Install FakeGapps.apk like regular app
Reboot
Popup will came out that ask you to add shortcut icon to desktop for LSPosed, just add it and open it
Go to Modules and enable FakeGApps
Go to Magisk and install microG_Installer_Revived.zip as a Module
Reboot
Open microG Service Core and ensure all boxes are selected. The most important is signature spoofing - this is what LSPosed and FakeGapps is for.
For working push notifications go to microG Service Core app and enable Google devices registration and Cloud Messaging.
For working location at least two apps will be needed - MozillaNlpBackend and NominatimNlpBackend. After installing they need to be enabled in microG Service Core app (Location modules). Sometimes MozillaNlpBackend refuse to be enabled, then you just have to go to it's permissions and select "Allow all the time" for location permission.
For working SafetyNet additional Magisk module may be needed.
SMS and Location in background didn't work for me, reinstalled the microG installer module and it worked
To uninstall google apps I used Universal Android Debloater. To find out the id's I used App Inspector.
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Instructions unclear. At what step should Google Play packages be removed and which exact packages belong to Play services(I've seen second post, but it's more about end-user apps)?
Following current instructions gives an error while installing microG_installer_revived, smth about duplicate permission that is already owned by com.google.android.gsf, don't have phone with me now, and microg core services crashing non-stop after reboot.
Is full nonsense a Rom where already GAPPS are installed try to install microg that can not work.
Use this Rom because microg is preinstalled.
[ROM] UNOFFICIAL Lineage OS 20.0 + MicroG
***************************************************************************************** * DISCLAIMER * * ROMs are published as is, without any guaranty. * * They are built automaticaly without test. * * I am not responsable if you phone is...
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Exodusnick said:
Is full nonsense a Rom where already GAPPS are installed try to install microg that can not work.
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I disagree, it is reasonable to want to benefit from the features and optimizations of the stock ROM.
Especially while no custom ROM is able to take fully advantage of the Glyph interface at the moment.
Although it is a hit or miss without knowing the exact level of coupling of the ROM with Gapps, it is possible to install microG.
Given that Nothing OS offers an experience very close to vanilla Android, I believe that removing Gapps will not create any major issues.
I think that the problem that @gonococcus is facing is due to the fact that Gapps are not properly uninstalled from the ROM.
Using Universal System Debloater will simply uninstall the selected apps for the current user instead of removing them completely from the ROM.
Here is my version of @The_Toady's guide:
Do a factory reset.
Complete the initial setup without connecting to the Internet and without adding any Google account.
This will prevent Gapps from updating or installing more apps.
Root your phone by flashing the latest version of Magisk.
Uninstall Gapps:
Create a file named 'SystemlessDebloaterList.sh' under /storage/emulated/0/Download and add the following text:
Code:
DebloatList="
GmsCore
GoogleServicesFramework
Phonesky
"
Notice that this is the minimum list of apps that must be uninstalled for a successful microG installation.
If you want to further debloat your phone, you can add more apps in the list acoording to the module's instructions.
Install the latest version of Systemless Debloater as a Magisk module.
Reboot.
Enable signature spoofing:
Enable Zygisk in Magisk's settings.
Install the latest Zygisk release of LSPosed as a Magisk module.
Install the FakeGapps app.
Reboot.
Add the shortcut icon of LSPosed to your home-screen and open it.
Enable the FakeGApps LSPosed module.
Reboot.
Install the latest version of the microG Installer Revived as a Magisk module and reboot.
The above guide worked flawlessly for me on both 1.1.7 and 1.5-beta versions of Nothing OS.
I was even able to install OTAs manually with reasonable effort.
If you are interested I will write a guide about it soon.
Sorry no interest as I have my own Rom with microG .
Without bells and whistles with this LSPosed and I do not know .
Which also intervenes much too deep into the system.
Exodusnick said:
Sorry no interest as I have my own Rom with microG .
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The current post is a guide on how to install microG on stock ROM.
My response tries to enable users do exactly this.
Exodusnick said:
Without bells and whistles with this LSPosed and I do not know .
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I agree with you, a custom ROM that comes in vanilla version and takes fully advantage of the device's hardware is much preferable.
Exodusnick said:
Which also intervenes much too deep into the system.
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This is up to you, e.g., the FakeGapps module is enabling signature spoofing only for microG and not system-wide.
emdikay said:
I think that the problem that @gonococcus is facing is due to the fact that Gapps are not properly uninstalled from the ROM.
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Hey, thanks for very detailed explanation! (and merry Christmas)
I think my problem occurred due to either not removing original gapps or not leaving them intact. I found github issue at microg-installer-revived repo describing same problem and the author was asking if the person removed original gapps, so I got the impression that maybe I should've left them intact before installing magisk module.
My problem was solved by installing first 3.0.0 and then updating to 3.1.0 on top of it, which also supports my theory that microg-installer-revived should be applied on top of existing gapps/microg.
Anyway, in the end I gave up on microg at this point of time. I'm upgrading from my older phone which uses Lineage for microg. It doesn't work ideally, but I managed ok for last few years, but with microg-installer-revived package some apps that use Maps API are crashing straight away(at least few of them used to work, others would crash on both phones). My guess is they might be packaging different versions/dev branches of microg so the magisk version lags behind. For the time being I've uninstalled much of google stuff and will wait for NP1 ecosystem mature a bit more, hopefully getting Lineage for microg distro at some point. I'll keep an eye on microg in case there are some major updates.
SelfRef said:
This guide is very similar to what I wrote on Redd... haha, I wasn't expecting that, thanks for mentioning me
I might add that this method is a little more secure than using ROM with signature spoothing + installing microG manually because FakeGapps allows to spoof signature for microG only, no other apps. Also all changes can be just disabled either by uninstalling Magisk or disabling modules in Safe Mode in case of issues.
And of course there is nothing specific in this method for Nothing Phone, I successfully use it on my other devices with stock ROMs or LineageOS.
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Yeah it really helped me and just "reposted' it here to make it easier to find. So big thanks.
Exodusnick said:
Use this Rom because microg is preinstalled.
[ROM] UNOFFICIAL Lineage OS 20.0 + MicroG
***************************************************************************************** * DISCLAIMER * * ROMs are published as is, without any guaranty. * * They are built automaticaly without test. * * I am not responsable if you phone is...
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If there was a good ROM with microG installed (or even anything when I created that post) I would have used it, but I want stuff like Fingerprint and NFC (I have a yubikey) and still dont want to use google. My Solution rn is e/OS/ on a S9 because I'm waiting for a good rom. This guide is for people like me, where this is the "best" solution