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I just received my stash of charging gear for my Optimus 7 today, bought from DX. Having read everywhere that USB chargers are 5V +/- 10%, and seeing that the original LG charger outputs 4.8V, I thought my purchase was ok and that this charger would work.
Turns out it doesn't. When I connect the phone to the charger via USB, I lose control of the touchscreen and the system gains a mind of its own. I literally just hold my phone in my hand and stare while it randomly enters hubs and either opens an email message or dials someone. The physical buttons still respond correctly, and it's not until I disconnect the charger from the wall socket or the phone from the USB cable that I can regain control of the phone. My guess is it's a hardware fault and not software.
Granted this unofficial charger cost me around $1, but I got some similar 5V car chargers to go with it, and I've never had problems with other USB chargers.
Unofficial charger specs:
Input: 100-240V 0.15A (0.15A) 50-60hz
Output: 5V 1A
Does someone else have this issue? Is the Optimus 7 an uncommon device for requiring 4.8V input instead of 5V?
Your problem is NOT the charger, as that has nothing to do with the functions of the phone.
Your problem is that your LG Optimus 7 E900 is a DEMO unit, with a DEMO ROM. And until you flash a stock ROM onto your phone, you will experience the demo played out while connected to a power source.
You sure? Because I tried it with the 5V 1A car adapters and no problem, and the original 4.8V 1A charger gives me no problems either.
How do I check my ROM version? Firmware is 1.0.7.10, OS is 7.0.7008.0 after the February update.
Can you get us video on this?
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That is most fascinating. I recommend you stop using that charger on your phone
So, obviously, you do NOT have the demo ROM as I suspected initially.
Since you say it works with another 5V 1A charger, then I think this specific charger may be sending unexpected, random data signals down the USB cable, resulting in the unresponsive and bizarre behaviour. Since the original charger works well, and charges pretty fast, just stick with that for now.
At least you got the update, here in Canada, we are still waiting for our first update.
And your English is so good, and without any accents...Are you sure you aren't from our here (North America)?
This is true magic Really I have no eplanation on this problem. It is only 0,2V
Yeah, and there I was thinking that the whole point of USB charging is that it's universal and totally compatible, no matter what adapter you buy and what cable you use, provided it connects well.
It seems this is not the case, and I'm weary of trying another third party USB charger, as I still cannot tell if this phenomenon is unique to the Optimus 7 or not. Sadly, the only other MicroUSB phones I have lying around don't actually support charging via this port, just data transfer.
i also admit that im "dazzled" by ur -smart-phone...
probably that adapter is"magical" somehow... did u try it on another phone??
+i also use different chargers but never had any abnormalities so far..
Though i use the original chargers that came with my blackberry 9700 and htc-desire, and just checked the blackberry output is 5v!! i cant read the htc...
So, probably that adapter of yours is a "mutant from another place"...
confirm, htc is also 5v...
ps2- i'm also on 7008, and havent got any issues with charging on both 7004 and 7008
The problem is in the charger, it's too chinese . I had this issue with other touchscreen phones, like SE X8, X10... Just change the charger, obviously it has some hum/noise...
lol...
too chinese? lol
im having the same issue when i use the lg power adapter.. it doesnt always happen but when it happen the touch screen just when berserk.
i always thought that it happens on all units. uh oh
To be honest, I thought you were crazy till I bought a Chinese adapter as well. Don't know the voltage, but I'll check it tomorrow. I think it might have to do with the way the unit is shielded, or not. The only time I wiggs out is when I leave it on the desk, but as soon as I pick it up and pull it a few inches away form the desk or any other object it works fine. But as soon as I put it back down, the screen does the same thing.
I have a usb plug that I plug into the computer that didn't do that at the same desk, I'm going to bring in my other charger and see if it rule out the outlet / interference or just the cheap a$$ adapter....
The only part that worries me, and the only reason I might stop using it, is it takes a bit from the time I unplug it to the time the phone realizes it's unplugged and the charging icon stops. Which doesn't happen with any other charger.
I had this problem too.. until I realized it affected my other touch screen devices too (Galaxy S, Galaxy Tab)... Turns out the 5V charger was the problem. Replaced it with a 5V charger of Philips/Belkin/Samsung/LG and all worked..
The unbranded 5V chargers don't work well with capacitive screens as they seem to be letting off some extra current.
I figured I would share this since I have not found another thread with this info.
The Galaxy Note 10.1 will charge from usb.
I find this interesting because no tablet, at least none I have known, will do this. They all need to be actually plugged into a wall outlet to charge. However, my note 10.1 has charged from around 13% to 32% plugged into USB. Now, mind you , it doesnt charge very fast, but it does charge.
For some this won't matter. In my case, that 3 ft cord doesnt go from the floor outlet to my desk at work too easily, but the usb will plug in very easily and reach where I need it too. At the very least, it will add a little more time to the length of the batter. I work a 10 hour shift, not adding in the hour for lunch, and I can usually made it about 8 hours. So this may get me the extra two hours I need...hopefully.
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I figured I would share this since I have not found another thread with this info.
The Galaxy Note 10.1 will charge from usb.
I find this interesting because no tablet, at least none I have known, will do this. They all need to be actually plugged into a wall outlet to charge. However, my note 10.1 has charged from around 13% to 32% plugged into USB. Now, mind you , it doesnt charge very fast, but it does charge.
For some this won't matter. In my case, that 3 ft cord doesnt go from the floor outlet to my desk at work too easily, but the usb will plug in very easily and reach where I need it too. At the very least, it will add a little more time to the length of the batter. I work a 10 hour shift, not adding in the hour for lunch, and I can usually made it about 8 hours. So this may get me the extra two hours I need...hopefully.
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Hmm, I think mine claims not to (it puts an X on the battery icon), but I didn't leave it plugged into my computer long enough to see whether it charged or not. I think all tablets can potentially charge via USB port on a PC, it's just that most disable it out of the box but eg. for the Galaxy Tab 10.1 custom kernels could enable charging over USB.
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Hmm, I think mine claims not to (it puts an X on the battery icon), but I didn't leave it plugged into my computer long enough to see whether it charged or not. I think all tablets can potentially charge via USB port on a PC, it's just that most disable it out of the box but eg. for the Galaxy Tab 10.1 custom kernels could enable charging over USB.
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Mine also puts the RED X over the battery icon whether I try to charge it through a PC USB port or other USB charging port other than the Samsung adapter (Goal Zero 150 usb port and Panatech 10000mah external USB battery pack). The tablet shows that it is charging when i view it using GO POWER MASTER app. Watched it for 5 minutes but with WIFI off, it still dropped from 88% to 87%. I am however using the stock kernel.
It charges faster if you have the screen off. The usb gives more or less what you need to keep it running with the screen on.
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Mine put the red X on the battery icon as well, but still charged. I had to have the screen off.
I had mind plugged into my USB 3.0 port (which should really make a difference) to transfer some files, and then just left it plugged in and it charges. Its definitely a trickle charge, but I am glad to see it does this, as my a500 did not.
When I transferred 40Gb of data to the mSD via MTP (screen off) and called up the batt-graph after disconnection it showed me a fair charging rate. Not stunning but at least a noticeable charge ( from 63% to 82% in three hours).
So it does charge the battery, in spite of the red X?
Yes it does, albeit very slowly.
You guys are misinterpreting the red x. Just got off the phone with Samsung. The x stands for "extra awesome charging". I swear.
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I figured I would share this since I have not found another thread with this info.
The Galaxy Note 10.1 will charge from usb.
I find this interesting because no tablet, at least none I have known, will do this. They all need to be actually plugged into a wall outlet to charge. However, my note 10.1 has charged from around 13% to 32% plugged into USB. Now, mind you , it doesnt charge very fast, but it does charge.
For some this won't matter. In my case, that 3 ft cord doesnt go from the floor outlet to my desk at work too easily, but the usb will plug in very easily and reach where I need it too. At the very least, it will add a little more time to the length of the batter. I work a 10 hour shift, not adding in the hour for lunch, and I can usually made it about 8 hours. So this may get me the extra two hours I need...hopefully.
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Interesting, because every tablet I've owned (Tab 10.1 and Nexus 7) behaved like this.
They will charge VERY slowly on USB - and will likely not charge at all if the screen is on due to the total unit power consumption being >500 mA.
Entropy512 said:
Interesting, because every tablet I've owned (Tab 10.1 and Nexus 7) behaved like this.
They will charge VERY slowly on USB - and will likely not charge at all if the screen is on due to the total unit power consumption being >500 mA.
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Same here. iPads, nook color, Samsung tablets, all say not charging but do trickle charge if you are doing anything to drain it faster than thenusb can supply. It takes around 8 to 10 hours to charge my gt101 through regular USB 2.0.
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You guys are misinterpreting the red x. Just got off the phone with Samsung. The x stands for "extra awesome charging". I swear.
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Bwahahaha... A friend of mine posted on twitter that Apple should make something that lets iDevices charge each other... Ours actually can because of USB host! I actually lost the usb host adapter for my old galaxy tab so I need to get a new one but I had one for my gs3, and it does charge my tablet. But the reverse is clearly more useful.
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Tested again when attached to Notebook by USB:
Screen on at max. Brightness and working: batt charge stays level
Screen off: batt charges approx. 5% per hour
Tested on GNote charger (1A output)
Screen on : charging very slowly (approx. 3% per hour)
Screen off: charging approx. 8% per hour
Tested on iPad charger:
Slower than original charger although max. Output:
The more items you have attacht to your computers USB the less power it has to allow your tablet to draw for charging.
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The more items you have attacht to your computers USB the less power it has to allow your tablet to draw for charging.
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I don't think this is the case. The USB ports provide a set power output, and not variable by available power supply type of output.
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I don't think this is the case. The USB ports provide a set power output, and not variable by available power supply type of output.
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You are correct they are not variable but they only have a given amount ofpwer available and if you are drawing the max and add another device that needs more power to charge the power will not be available.
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You are correct they are not variable but they only have a given amount ofpwer available and if you are drawing the max and add another device that needs more power to charge the power will not be available.
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Of course, everything has a limited power availability, USB ports being no exception, whether having their own psu or bus powered or whatever your setup may be, but unless you are doing something beyond practical use or have a poorly designed setup, than this should not be a problem. I know some systems out there, the mac book pro for example, specific limits USB power output between ports by design (you may even call it variable haha...but by design). However, in a general sense, you should not have a power output issue with simply plugging in for usb charging., even if all other ports are used up as well. So don't daisy chain, or do anything like that. Practical use should be fine. I personally hook my usb charged devices, like my phone, to my monitor at work. It was a few usb ports on the side, and it works great. Also, it keeps me from having to deal with all the annoying security popups that go with plugging it into the actual computer.
In a probably unfunny but still remotely amusing anecdote, I remember the massive work I put my a500 through. I used to have a usb hub attached with 2 1tb portable hard drives, a keyboard, a mouse, my phones, and more all charging directly from USB. Never had trouble with power issues, aside from quicker draining of the battery. lol.
does anyone know if charging is possible when you use an Y adapter on USB-OTG to hook up an external harddrive and a charger at the same time?
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does anyone know if charging is possible when you use an Y adapter on USB-OTG to hook up an external harddrive and a charger at the same time?
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Barring any specific device hardware limitations, it is possible to do data transfer and power transfer at the same time using a y cable. Its essentially the same thing as using a usb hub, except you only have two ports instead of 4 or more.
As for actual practical use on the note, I have not tried it out, and I am not aware of any limitations built into software or hardware to prevent it. So, I do not see you having a problem with it.
Almost all tablets can charge through regular USB2 if they're sleeping (or better - powered off).
USB has power limits (USB1.1 is 100mA, USB2.0 is 500mA and USB3 is 2A) BUT these are the 'minimum maximums', if you will. That is, these are the current source *required* for certification. It's entirely permissable for a USB port to provide as much current as it wants - it just can't be limited to *less* than these amounts.
USB 2.0 and later ports are also supposed to implement 'overcurrent' warnings if the device is taking more current than the port can provide..
That's why, for example, some ports can drive a CDROM or external HD drive without a problem - while other ones can't.
The Note 10.1 needs a little over 2A @ 5V to charge at a reasonable rate.
One other note, if you let your battery drain very low, then the lower current of most USB 2 ports won't be enough to charge it even if it's off. The charge current curve isn't linear.
Hi,
I have an old Nexus 7 with a broken digitizer lying around, and I want to make some use out of it. The tablet sill functions and all that, but I can't plug anything into the micro-USB port because of it's battery life (or lack thereof). I was wondering if there was a way to connect the LCD's ribbon cable to a controller and operate it like a monitor with HDMI (or DVI, VGA, DisplayPort, whatever), or maybe connect the LCD directly to a display output. If I end up getting a controller, I'd like something small enough to either fit on the back of the physical tablet or on a Raspberry Pi (2 Model B), and something that doesn't take up lots of power in case I decide to solar-power it.
Thanks!
Actually it would be awesome to use my Nexus 7 as external display for a Raspberry Pi. I don't want to pay 60 bucks for it's original touch display when I already have a 7" display I could use.
I need to have an MHL adapter connected to my Samsung Galaxy s4 i9506 which mirrors it's screen to a monitor/info screen indefinitely, but the problem is that an MHL adapter outputs a measly 300mA (Tried lots of chargers but the output never changed) which is nowhere enough. I did some research and found out that I can up that number by installing a custom ROM that enables fast charging so tried that with my other phones doing the same task that are i9505 and SGH-M919. I managed to install a custom ROM that enabled fast charge through STweaks which upped the output all the way to 1000mA, but I haven't been able to find out a ROM that enables the feature for i9506. I tried LineageOS 14.1 which should have fast charge enabled by default, but when I used Ampere to check the charging current the output was 300mA, so I assume that fast charge didn't get enabled.
Does anybody know a ROM, that enables fast charge for i9506, or how I could scrape by with that measly 300mA when the only thing the phone needs to do is to mirror a web page to a monitor. Chrome cast isn't an option, because if the connection drops you need to manually connect it again, and since the phones should be operational for months without rebooting the connection is bound to drop sooner or later.
That's a kernel thing. So, unless you find a kernel for the I9506 that supports 1000 mAh USB charging, you're out of luck in this regard.
I guess the only way to survive with 300 mAh would be to turn the screen off, otherwise the phone will use more power than it receives.
Another solution would be wireless charging. I think this is your best bet.
Is there an app that I could use that timers off the screen during the night and then wakes it in the morning? There are a lot of apps that let you time music and other apps, and even turn off the screen, but I haven't found one yet that could also wake the phone up later.
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Is there an app that I could use that timers off the screen during the night and then wakes it in the morning? There are a lot of apps that let you time music and other apps, and even turn off the screen, but I haven't found one yet that could also wake the phone up later.
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Maybe Tasker.
@nyoatype
I'm searching for same as you.
Having mhl adapter (which is original as i think, working without power source and resolution is 1080p60). After connecting to AC 1.2A max charging power for phone (I9505) is only 300mAh, on original Samsung charger 2.1A is little bit more - 400mAh but obviously it's still not enough for me. Power output doesn't change even after enabling USB fast charging (700mAh or 1000mAh, doesn't matter).
I was looking to kernel source https://github.com/Slim80/Imperium_...ter/arch/arm/mach-msm/board-fusion3-battery.c
where are defined values of charging for MHL 500/MHL 900/MHL 1500 (phone probably can detect which one is plugged) but after increase charge_current_max and charge_current for every MHL type I do not see any difference unfortunately, so I'm searching still what's is going on and where i can increase power output from MHL to phone.
I'm searching for a way to change resolution of MHL video output too, so if anyone kernel master can follow me a little bit, will be great (maybe here https://github.com/Slim80/Imperium_Kernel_TW_5.0.1/blob/master/drivers/video/msm/external_common.c in line 40 -
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PolishVodka said:
@nyoatype
I'm searching for same as you.
Having mhl adapter (which is original as i think, working without power source and resolution is 1080p60). After connecting to AC 1.2A max charging power for phone (I9505) is only 300mAh, on original Samsung charger 2.1A is little bit more - 400mAh but obviously it's still not enough for me. Power output doesn't change even after enabling USB fast charging (700mAh or 1000mAh, doesn't matter).
I was looking to kernel source https://github.com/Slim80/Imperium_...ter/arch/arm/mach-msm/board-fusion3-battery.c
where are defined values of charging for MHL 500/MHL 900/MHL 1500 (phone probably can detect which one is plugged) but after increase charge_current_max and charge_current for every MHL type I do not see any difference unfortunately, so I'm searching still what's is going on and where i can increase power output from MHL to phone.
I'm searching for a way to change resolution of MHL video output too, so if anyone kernel master can follow me a little bit, will be great (maybe here https://github.com/Slim80/Imperium_Kernel_TW_5.0.1/blob/master/drivers/video/msm/external_common.c in line 40 -
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int hdmi_forced_resolution = - 1 ;
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I used this ROM to up up my numbers with i9505 to 500mAh-640mAh depending on charger and mhl adapter, so if it's of any help to you you can try it. Let me know if you find anything that could be of use : D https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...dcteam-android-source-project-mra58v-t3251663
Is there any way to wake phone up with a timer? For example make the phone wake up every morning at 8 o'clock? I'm using automate to put the phone to sleep at a fixed time, but waking it up doesn't seem to be as easy (The timer block in automate actually has a checkbox with description "Awake device", but it doesn't actually wake the phone up).
nyoatype said:
Is there any way to wake phone up with a timer? For example make the phone wake up every morning at 8 o'clock? I'm using automate to put the phone to sleep at a fixed time, but waking it up doesn't seem to be as easy (The timer block in automate actually has a checkbox with description "Awake device", but it doesn't actually wake the phone up).
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I already told you to try Tasker. Did you do it?
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I already told you to try Tasker. Did you do it?
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I haven't yet added a payment option to Google store (Since this is work related and I'd need to use the companys payment information) so haven't been able to try Tasker. I'll try it when I'm able to get my boss' approval.
I'm also trying to do some physical changes to one of the MHL adapters to bypass it, so that the current would come straight from the charger. This means I'll cut the Power and GND (red and black wires) of the microUSB cable connected to the phone and connect them in parallel with the red and black cables going to the MHL adapter. I'm not sure, but this might cause the MHL adapter get power from the charger, but instead of supplying the power to the phone, the phone would get it's power straight from the charger (although it would still be USB-charging since the data pins are being used, but that wouldn't matter since I usually get 1000mAh when USB charging with computer).
Another possible solution is to use wireless charging pad, because I read that if the USB-connection uses MTP or PTP the wireless charging will take priority, so the data would go through the USB but the power would come from the wireless charger. I'm not sure about this because I read it from another forum post, so if somebody could confirm/deny it I would be seriously grateful!
Thanks for your replies and suggestions so far! This is one heck of a situation I've been put into so I really appreciate the help!
Lately I can't seem to get my s8 to go into Dex mode. I've used this adapter for about a year and it's always worked fine: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078W4RXGR/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_xYhyCbK7D7EWR
I use an official Samsung fast charger with it.
I've never had any issue with this adapter but Dex mode started acting up a couple of weeks ago. I ordered the official Dex pad on Amazon thinking that my adapter was dead, and it seemed to fix the problem, but the problem started happening again today.
Basically, when I plug my s8 into the dock it shows the Dex logo on the phone and then the phone screen goes off. I can tell that the monitor that I'm using notices that something has been plugged into it as the power button changes from an orange light to a white light. But after a few seconds the power button light on the monitor changes back to orange like it's not getting a HDMI signal.
I've tried using a different HDMI cables and a different monitor as well as different chargers.
It's like no signal is coming out of the Dex pad. I thought maybe the USB c port on my s8 might be messed up. Anyway, I've been searching through some forums and haven't been able to resolve the issue so I'm posting here. Any ideas?