I'm not sure what could be going on, but apps seem to be automatically moving over to the SD Card, even if I don't want them to, or they normally can't be. Apps such as Twitter and Reddit break when this happens, and even moving them back onto the Internal Storage through Application Manager doesn't seem to fix the issue, forcing me to re-install. This is more just a mild annoyance, but if anyone could assist me, that'd be great.
If this is also of any help, I run a stock ROM. Rooted via Magisk, with only the Microsoft bloatware uninstalled.
Lucks_TASCorp said:
I'm not sure what could be going on, but apps seem to be automatically moving over to the SD Card, even if I don't want them to, or they normally can't be. Apps such as Twitter and Reddit break when this happens, and even moving them back onto the Internal Storage through Application Manager doesn't seem to fix the issue, forcing me to re-install. This is more just a mild annoyance, but if anyone could assist me, that'd be great.
If this is also of any help, I run a stock ROM. Rooted via Magisk, with only the Microsoft bloatware uninstalled.
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Look if the option 'Allow apps to sd card' or something like that on developer option is enabled. If it is turn it off.
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I am running into the issue when I try to run an app there isn't enough memory. I don't have anything running in the back ground. I find that if I delete all my sms/mms it removes the problem for a while until it fills up again. I guess my question is what else can I clean out to gain more memory. I thought I was saving everything I could to the SD card. How do I isolate which programs are using the most memory? Thanks for any help you may be able to provide!
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Lou
Clear Temp & Install to Storage Card
Hello.. I was having the same problem as well. I bought this phone about a month ago and I love it. I started getting a memory error, and eventually the phone stopped receiving texts and notifications. Very frustrating.
I searched online and found a helpful page and then decided to reinstall apps to the storage card. It takes some digging but you can also find tweaks for storing email attachments, temp files, etc. to the storage card (haven't checked, surely the folks here at XDA have suggestions to make this easier). Finally I discovered this really cool little app called cleanRAM.
I've noticed an improvement. Mainly because it seems the HTC apps sure love to eat up local memory and make things run rather sluggish on the Imagio.
I started with the "Troubleshooting: HTC Imagio (Verizon) Sluggishness/Freezing" over at the HTC forums.
(I guess I'm too new to post a link. Sorry!)
And then thought really long and hard about installing software to the storage card. I figured because I never remove it, and its a 8GB card, probably not a bad idea to start doing it.
I had to really think about it because I prefer to save my storage card space for music and pictures.
Anyway, I would install anything system-related such as file finders, registry editors, .Net CF, today launchers, Gyrator, cleanRAM etc to the device. Everything else such as Google Maps, 3rd party browsers, games, GPS utilities, etc. is now installed to the storage card.
I just found this today and it seems to work pretty well. Try searching for "cleanRAM windows mobile" in Google.
Hey XDA folks.. surely you guys have placed more tips and tweaks elsewhere for this sort of thing, specific to the Imagio..??
The only thing you should install to the device itself are things like MODS, not APPS.
ESPESCIALLY NOT the CF Framework. It is hugh!!!
As a general rule... MODS to Device. APPS to Storage Card
Hey, so I'm slow..
I haven't checked back here in a while. So I'm a little slow!!
Yeah, you know I never really gave much thought to where to install software to, and got into the habit of always internal. Ever since experiencing the memory issue on the Imagio, I changed that habit pretty quickly.
What I find interesting is, if a techie like me had all these "problems" I can only imagine what non-techies must go through. I feel bad for them, because if they would read the manual, take time to research Imagio memory issues, and take the time to tweak their phones they wouldn't have so many problems!
Anyway, thanks much for the tip. Been wanting (yes.. wanting) to do a hard reset just to clean things up and to install mods and apps in the right spots.
My only concern is with Bing. When I do the hard reset, I probably won't even start it. I miss the old version. It's installed to the ROM, correct? So should I accidentally start it and it automatically upgrades, where should the upgrade go.. internal memory, or storage card?
Sorry for the loing post, bare with me
I have installed FRF50 when it came out, after a few day when doing an update of a few app in the market I had one stuck at installation, even after reboot when I tried to update it again it did the same, after a few cleanup of my download folder and retry all the app that where encrypted in the app2sd folder (not sure of the exact folder name) where not properly decrypted by the OS, at the time I taught nothing of it and reinstalled everything (froyo image + reconfig) to do a fresh start with froyo, I also reformatted my SD card to be on the safe side... and had no issue since then...
Then came FRF72, did the exact same problem yesterday and I was able to restart the SD (if I can say so) after a few reboot.
Today same issue is back, but no go so far, all app that belong to flash are there with a generic icon, they appear on the list of app in the SD section but without their icon, it really look like if the OS is not able to decrypt them (If I understand correctly that was the stupid way google decided to implement some kind of DRM on the flash memory)
I am seriously thinkiing about going back to CM and the old way of EXT4 app2sd, it was working ok...
I've had this occur after upgrading to FRF72, it's probably because the OS didn't manage to detect the apps correctly. To solve it, I just plugged in my USB cable, mounted the SD card and then unmounting it after it showed up correctly as a removable drive on my laptop. After waiting a while for the OS to scan the card (check logcat to verify that apps are indeed being scanned one by one), my apps were back.
Another test...
Rebooted the phone without the SD, then shutdown and reboot with the SD, no change but...
If I connect the USB cable, the computer see the new drive right away (it use to take a few second after enabling the USB sharing) but is is not usable and I see no notification of the USB, that's a really weird bug...
if anybody have some idea, I know from my first encounter with this issue that changing the SD card will not fix this either...
@ Zanglang
Thanks for the sugestion, but the PC doesn't see the card, my terminal was on the flash mem and I can not install new app from market
trying a nandroid from the Recovery now... BAD DROID...
I had a problem on Frf50 with app icons turning generic and disappearing from 3d app rolodex. They were still accessible from the generic icons.
Now on Frf72 and issue seems to have subsided. Everything is where it should be. This time around i only added apps to sd they were allowable to move, i didnt force anything. When i first talked about it a while back i heard it was a bug as well as learned that certain things shouldnt go on the SD altogether. Now that i got that straightened out im good and feel like i learned something. lol
crap, no recovery
SBERG117 said:
I had a problem on Frf50 with app icons turning generic and disappearing from 3d app rolodex. They were still accessible from the generic icons.
Now on Frf72 and issue seems to have subsided. Everything is where it should be. This time around i only added apps to sd they were allowable to move, i didnt force anything. When i first talked about it a while back i heard it was a bug as well as learned that certain things shouldnt go on the SD altogether. Now that i got that straightened out im good and feel like i learned something. lol
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Yeah, the funny part is that I did not move rom manager and I did not move anything like widget etc, I am frustrated by Google stupid way of handling memory extension tho... as for not forcing any app i am fine with the idea however too many app are not updated and it piss me off to go thru all app to move them by hand...
What's the point of encrypting the app moved to SD anyway... I can't believe how stupid this is, I hope Cyanogen will find a way to disable this altogether...
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Yeah, the funny part is that I did not move rom manager and I did not move anything like widget etc, I am frustrated by Google stupid way of handling memory extension tho... as for not forcing any app i am fine with the idea however too many app are not updated and it piss me off to go thru all app to move them by hand...
What's the point of encrypting the app moved to SD anyway... I can't believe how stupid this is, I hope Cyanogen will find a way to disable this altogether...
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Well now some of the icons have disappeared again. LOL.
These were all allowable by FRF72. Only one that hasnt changed yet is titanium backup. I tried, thought it was gonna hold.
I managed to do a recovery, I swapped the SD with another one and moved everything from the protected dir of the old card to the new one and all the icon came back.
When checking in the app manager, I noticed a few file marked as flash, I deleted a few and it seem ok but the one in the SD section are still not all there, and some display calculating as in the properties field forever...
So far
Froyo = 7/10 (3 total crash so far all related to the new memory management) since I used the PM setInstallLocation 2 I am not putting 0...
Cyanogen = 9/10
I am really curious to see what he will do with flash memory management!
Now running FRF83 with the first SD untouched, I recovered my nandroid then directly flashed to FRF83 from Paul, all app are there... I am also reverting to setIntallLocation 0 to see if there's improvement...
Having similar issues right now on the latest update with setinstalllocation 2. I guess I have to f around with it to get this to work again. What a pain.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
adb setinstalllocation 2 doesn't seem to do much but make it seem like many apps are actually being installed on the sd card when they are in fact not.
I decided to investigate when I noticed my phone storage at 32mb of internal storage free. Installed flash player. I went to manage applications, installed on sd tab had all 7.7 megs on the sd card. I went to uninstall, the application freed up internal phone storage, all 7.7 megs on uninstall.
I don't believe this method actually does anything useful unless its an app that already allows store to sd.. which is few and far between. Furthermore you don't know what's really an app that supports that now and what isn't because most of the apps now show up in the "on sd" tab of managed applications.
I could be wrong, plan on testing some more soon.. busy for the rest of the day. Will report back
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adb setinstalllocation 2 doesn't seem to do much but make it seem like many apps are actually being installed on the sd card when they are in fact not.
I decided to investigate when I noticed my phone storage at 32mb of internal storage free. Installed flash player. I went to manage applications, installed on sd tab had all 7.7 megs on the sd card. I went to uninstall, the application freed up internal phone storage, all 7.7 megs on uninstall.
I don't believe this method actually does anything useful unless its an app that already allows store to sd.. which is few and far between. Furthermore you don't know what's really an app that supports that now and what isn't because most of the apps now show up in the "on sd" tab of managed applications.
I could be wrong, plan on testing some more soon.. busy for the rest of the day. Will report back
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The files are encrypted and placed in .android_secure in the root of the SD card (when I crashed that dir had 350MB size...)
so they are there, but I agree that phone memory still didn't get freed as much as it should as well, I suspect it's the way the OS had to place thumbstone so that they appear in the app manager
Also I noticed that they seem to have some kind of naming convention {com.dooblou.WiFiFileExplorerPRO-2} vs {cn.mobgo.filego-1} where some have -2 and other are -1
either way I reformatted and started again from scratch (well partially, titanium backup is very usefull) this time without forcing usage of the SD card I already feel the pain of having to go thru each and every app to toggle the move to sd and this is when it simply doesn't support the feature yet...
I really think that this app 2 sd implementation sucks big time, oh did I mention that the way google implemented it's memory expansion sucks... Also the way they implemented encryption mean that you could end up with a backup from a broken phone not working on a new phone which is quite something, almost sound like an Apple Feature...
They could have to the very least added a tab in the app manager so that we can easily manage the said so option... and made an external app that could decrypt the app moved to flash for backup purpose
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I really think that this app 2 sd implementation sucks big time, oh did I mention that the way google implemented it's memory expansion sucks... Also the way they implemented encryption mean that you could end up with a backup from a broken phone not working on a new phone which is quite something, almost sound like an Apple Feature...
They could have to the very least added a tab in the app manager so that we can easily manage the said so option... and made an external app that could decrypt the app moved to flash for backup purpose
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Yeah it's a pretty terrible implementation. I think eventually it'll be some sort of transparent thing that the user will never see if the app developer enables it but for the time being it blows big time.
Maybe this is why Froyo hasn't yet released.... Wider audience and feedback on A2SD.
I suspect it'll either get fixed or yanked for 2.2.
I had to reinstall all the apps I moved to the SD card.
Had the same problem with FRF76..all of a sudden I couldn't install new apps from the market...soooo, what I did was:
- downgrade to CM5.0.8
- save all of my apps to apps2sd
- deleted app secure folder
- upgrade to rodrigurez r19 rom with older style apps2sd.
- now, I have all my apps n new ones my sd card n yeap..even widgets are working..
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Maybe this is why Froyo hasn't yet released.... Wider audience and feedback on A2SD.
I suspect it'll either get fixed or yanked for 2.2.
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I hope so, A guy has made a great program to move the app to SD, however on my phone I can move like 10% of all I have installed, I just had to delete co-pilot to be able to install swype
What's weird is that their protected folder system even compress the app, but as far as I am concerned I do not need more space on my SD since almost nothing can be moved there anyway... and even if, I could update my SD as needed...
Why do i lose my widgets when i move an app to my sd card? I read on googles android section, that apps that are moved to sd, that you have to reboot to get your widget back. I rebooted, and still no widgets. Any ideas?
Install the app that contains the widget on your phone. Problem Solved.
Just make it a habit of installing all things that you absolutely need on your phone (things with widgets), and everything else (like games, other stuff) on your sd.
why are the widgets deleted when installed on SD? Whats the point of installing on sd when you dont get all the features of the app? Seems as though google needs to work on this feature quite a bit
The apps also aren't entirely installed to the SD card. Look at them in settings and they'll have a little data on the phone, and usually most of it is on the SD card. I'm sure Google will improve it, but as others said, things with widgets you should leave on your phone, everything else, on the SD card. The only app I have that I use the widget for is Pandora, so all my really large apps sit on my SD card.
applications and games ive downloaded and moved to my sd card are not showing in my list of applications. i can not use them at all with the few ways i tried. i cant download apps from the market i hit ok n it doesnt do anything. i cant uninstall apps. i cant install apps ive acquired from other sites. when i go into manage applications and click on any and "all apps" that are saved on my sd card n "on my phone" it will not show the memory used it will just show computing for everything in data and cache. i have learned that if i remove my memory card all apps that are saved to my phone will delete if if i want to delete them with the exception of preinstalled apps. my phone can download and it shows the memory use of applications in the app manager. i have tried i few tricks like signing into google n deleting data n cache from google apps and it worked, however when i shut my phone off then back on it went back to the same problem. i dont remember exactly the steps i took to get it to work because i did follow the steps but then tried a few other things that i cant recall and my phone worked properly with my sd card installed. now i try the same steps i learned but they are not working. i have no idea what to do. my phone is rooted but thats all i have done, i havent manipulated any files or installed any roms. i have however downloaded a few apps for rooted droids one being autostarts and this is where i think i may have went wrong but im not sure. when i downloaded autostarts i went crazy stopping apps that auto start to save battery life but and i dont know if i may have stopped something critical to my phone functioning properly but i cant check because autostarts is saved on my sd card and i my phone wont read apps on my sd card in a way where i can actually use them. so this is my problem i didnt make any back ups i dont want to reformat my sd card or buy a new sd card i dont think that will solve my problem anyway i dont want to wipe my phone because theres just too much on my phone. i just need to learn what i can do to fix this problem. please help n if u can ill buy you a gift on amazon and have it shipped to you or donate to this site if i knew how to do that lol... ill will attach a text doc showing the steps i took that worked for my phone but stopped working after i turned off my phone then turned it back on... p.s. it wouldnt work again because i cant delete data and caches from apps the apps memory use stays stuck on computing
I have a droid 2
sorry for all the typos ive been up for awhile
i havent tried this tip yet that i found because i just dont know what effect it will have on my phone...
THE "FOR ROOTED PHONES ONLY" LIST
(if you have to ask what that is, you probably can't/shouldn't do it)
- Delete the file system/data/data/com.android.providers.settings/databases/settings.db (or, alternatively, the whole /data/data/com.android.providers.settings directory)
- Add an entry to the HOSTS file at system/etc/hosts for android.clients.google.com (IP address for the entry varies per location, I'm in the US and used 74.125.93.113 -- this seems to primarily address proxy issues, which may be encountered by wireless users in China)
this is in the txt.doc i posted. i only did the tips listed under easy list in the txt doc
i think im going to try removing my sd card clearing the data for all the google apps then putting my sd card back in and see if that helps.
nope didnt work... also just a side note when i go into manage applications then click "on sd card" i can see my apps there with no icon logos next to its title but again i cant see its data usage and cache its stuck on computing and i cant see my apps that are installed on my sd card in my list of apps i can only see that the apps are still there when i go into manage applications then click "on sd card"
ok well i was getting really frustrated considering new non android smarthphones new service providers the works lol then i thought for a moment and said hmm maybe i just have to many apps and games saved directly to my phone and my poor phone cant handle anymore. so i removed my sd card turned on my phone and started deleting a few apps to give my phone more memory. i then again turned off my phone inserted my sd card turned on my phone and viola the phone is working properly again. i was binge eating downloads never once considering the memory on my phone smh poor phone lol well i lost the weight and my phone feels great. thanx me hopefully this will help someone else in the future.
smh im still having the same problems i dont event think it was a memory issue because simply deleting content doesnt even get my phone to read my sd card properly can anyone help
smh posting on this site was completely useless just like androids app dependent os
holy novenary post, batman. did you try sbf/factory reset or formatting the sd card?
yup factory reset n still had the same problem, and format sd card heck no are u crazy are u so completely senile youve lost all grasp of reality lol what i did do is put a knew sd card ran everything as normal removed the memory card deleted smdl2tmp1.asec file then installed the memory card ran everything as usual removed that memory card and replaced it with my original memory card with all files in the .asec folder deleted n now it has been working fine.
i think its so awesome that this site can teach you in detail how to void ya warranty in every way but for any actual real maintenance recovery n repair questions its all thumbs
knew = new lol
Galaxy S5 G900V Verizon
AOSP Rom 8.0.1 Oreo
My phone is working great for the most part except every few days I have to restore my TWRP backups because internal storage space starts decreasing for no reason. I start out at about 6.33GB then a couple days later i'm down to 4GB or less. No installation of apps and all photos/videos/downloads go to my external SD card. I researched the issue and have installed the app DiskUsage but can not find any apps adding storage. I have also went into Device/System/Bin and went to Dumpstate and Dumpsys properties and unchecked write and execute. I clear all app caches and davilk all the time and restart phone. But problem still persists! Since my phone isnt stock I can not access the #0990# or whatever the code is to access the menu to delete dumpstate as going thru dialer does not pull up the hidden menu even tho hidden menu is marked 'ON' in my settings. I'm getting a bit annoyed by this internal storage issue! Any ideas? Anyone!?
UPDATE: 12/22/2019 I restored backup again and took screenshot list of all app sizes to compare for later when storage drops. I've found out most of my apps are taking up more space and i'm not referring to just cache without doing anything the ones that I hardly use or know that dont save data. Why is this happening!? I went from 60% to 68% taken space over night.
Did you ever sort this out? I am having the same problem with a custom rom on my rooted A3 2017.
Dave
funkoot said:
Did you ever sort this out? I am having the same problem with a custom rom on my rooted A3 2017.
Dave
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No it's still an ongoing issue despite weather I use the android version mentioned, 7.1.2 or Android 11. Something to take note I never had this issue on STOCK roms that I can recall or before Android made the decision to use Adaptable storage for apps I want to say that happened in 2015 or 16. Previously you could just put most apps on external sd card.
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No it's still an ongoing issue despite weather I use the android version mentioned, 7.1.2 or Android 11. Something to take note I never had this issue on STOCK roms that I can recall or before Android made the decision to use Adaptable storage for apps I want to say that happened in 2015 or 16. Previously you could just put most apps on external sd card.
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My issue with disappearing internal memory appears to have settled down. I've installed the "Disk usage and storage analyser" app from the play store and for the last week my internal storage has been stable at 4GB. Don't know why but the app seems to be limiting the amount of internal memory that the apps can take.
I'll give it another week and see if things take a turn for the worst.
Dave
funkoot said:
My issue with disappearing internal memory appears to have settled down. I've installed the "Disk usage and storage analyser" app from the play store and for the last week my internal storage has been stable at 4GB. Don't know why but the app seems to be limiting the amount of internal memory that the apps can take.
I'll give it another week and see if things take a turn for the worst.
Dave
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I think I might have talked to you about this app before. Anyhow nope it didnt work for me. In the past week in storage has ballooned to more than a gig. I have to restore my phone anywhere from every couple weeks to a month because of the storage issue. Apps are writing to internal storage once installed. Thanks for trying to help with the situation.
Try something like SD Maid to clear the caches.
Google Play Services and other Google apks are notorious for building "useless" bloat data bases.
Make sure Google Firebase is disable.
Find the data hog 3rd party apps and take the trash apps out. Multiple browsers are prime targets.
blackhawk said:
Try something like SD Maid to clear the caches.
Google Play Services and other Google apks are notorious for building "useless" bloat data bases.
Make sure Google Firebase is disable.
Find the data hog 3rd party apps and take the trash apps out. Multiple browsers are prime targets.
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Thanks for the tips! I did install SD Maid it's helped clear out space but still having the issue. I looked into disabling Google Firebase but I can't find where it's located? I don't have too many apps installed and just Chrome browser. Most stock apps are trashed.
Droid9684 said:
Thanks for the tips! I did install SD Maid it's helped clear out space but still having the issue. I looked into disabling Google Firebase but I can't find where it's located? I don't have too many apps installed and just Chrome browser. Most stock apps are trashed.
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You're welcome.
Phone settings under Google.
Disabling Google play Services probably will kill it too although the data will remain.
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You're welcome.
Phone settings under Google.
Disabling Google play Services probably will kill it too although the data will remain.
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Yeah I can't find firebase under google settings. Disabling google services will make Google product apps stop working. I need PlayStore, Gmail and Maps etc.