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Help on Head Unit Selection

Hi all,
I am currently looking to replace my car head unit on my mitsubishi lancer 2009 from stock to an android based unit.
I went thru a lot of thread and info in this forum and narrowed down my search to a few unit, but i'll be honest I am a bit overwhelmed with all the model and version available on top of all the information available.
can anyone help me figure the best option available ?
so far those model seem to be the most popular
Pumpkin Android 6.0
amazon.com/dp/B01N9QH9X3
Erisin ES6041U or Erisin ES5646U
erisin.com/erisin-es6041u-7-universal-8core-android-60-car-stereo-gps-system-8core-autoradio_p775.html
.erisin.com/erisin-es5646u-62-nissanuniversal-2-din-octa-core-android-60-car-multimedia-stereo-dvd-gps-sat-nav-wifi-dab_p783.html
Joying US-JY-UM135N2
carjoying.com/joying-new-android-6-0-car-stereo-with-gps-navigation/android-6-0-car-stereo-2-din/joying-us-warehouse-2017-new-developed-ram-2gb-rom-32gb-factory-car-radio-replacement-new-android-6-0-1-marshmallow-system-pip-auto-radio-7-inch-double-2-din.html
Ownice C500
ownice.com/Pro_Head%20Unit%20for%202din%20universal_449.html
is there one of those that really stand out from the others ?
would they all fit a standard double din ?
can I expect to run into any major issue setting this up in my car ?
bottomline, I am looking for a headunit I can use for radio, internet music like spotify, navigation like waze or google map and support for backing camera in america.
any help to figure out what is the best fit would be amazing.
Thanks a lot!

Erisin have very bad reviews, seems that their devices are quickly dying and they don't provide support and it seems that the FM reception is not that good. Joying are well supported but I read that the audio amplifier is not that good, Ownice and Pumpkin are popular but I do not know much (not sure about the components)

I like my C500 octacore 2GB so far. Very fast and everything I want is working fine.
All the apps I've tried so far are working great including the ones you mention above.

Buying a Chinese Android head unit

Hello guys!
So, I have a 2005 Audi A4 B7 and I'm thinking about buying an android head unit for my car. So far I have found 2 head units that look somewhat like the factory one, or that I like. They both have Android 8.0 / 8.1, Quad-Core with 2GB of RAM. Now, are these chinese head units generally worth it? I'm really concerned about sound quality (I have an aftermarket amplifier and subwoofer installed). Now I have a Kenwood head unit and the sound output is decent, can't really complain (better than factory radio).
And I have a few questions.
One of the units is made by Mekede (the factory look-alike) and the other one is made by Wondefoo. Has anyone had any previous experience with these 2 makers?
Also, I do not see an AUX IN on these chinese head units. Do the have one? Is it possible to have one? I'd much rather play music over BT, but is generally the connection stable?
Seeing as they are Android, am I able to install 3rd party apps, such as Vanced YouTube ? Or Waze (or any other app that does not come preinstalled) ?
Generally speaking, how is the boot up time on these units?
They both cost around $210. Are they too cheap? Should I try and save up more? Look for other makers? Most of the times I'm going to be listening to music (either via USB, BT - or any way it can be connected to my phone; or YT) while, sometimes, using Google Maps / Waze. Are these cheap android head units generally laggy when multi-tasking? Does it really matter which one I buy, as they're all "cheap chinese products"?
Here are the links to the units:
1. Mekede
2.Wondefoo
Or if you guys could recommend me another one which really is worth the money, it'd be appreciated. I'd like it to have volume knobs, and the factory look-alike is a plus.
I am sorry if these questios have been asked before!
Thank you!

One thing to keep in mind - RAM amount. 1GB of RAM is not enough for these units. I'd recommend 4GB of RAM, but make sure you get at least 2GB of RAM for sure (and even that may not be enough).
Try to find a unit with PX5 (octa-core) or PX6 processor and 4GB of RAM, if possible. Android 8.0 or 8.1.
In terms of sound quality, I too was concerned. I ended up rooting and installing Viper4Android and the sound quality is great. I'm using an extenral amp, but the internal amp sounded good with V4A as well. Viper4Android gives you a LOT of flexibility in customizing the sound to your liking.

jtrosky said:
One thing to keep in mind - RAM amount. 1GB of RAM is not enough for these units. I'd recommend 4GB of RAM, but make sure you get at least 2GB of RAM for sure (and even that may not be enough).
Try to find a unit with PX5 (octa-core) or PX6 processor and 4GB of RAM, if possible. Android 8.0 or 8.1.
In terms of sound quality, I too was concerned. I ended up rooting and installing Viper4Android and the sound quality is great. I'm using an extenral amp, but the internal amp sounded good with V4A as well. Viper4Android gives you a LOT of flexibility in customizing the sound to your liking.
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Must be a PX5 or PX6 ? Most of the sellers don't list their processor model, just listing it as "octa-core". I'm aware that V4A can give you a lot of flexibility in sound customization (I've used it on my phone for a while)
Do these head units integrate well with the CAN ?

Here are the more technical names (may help identify them):
PX3: Cortex A9 (Quad-core) - 32-bit ARMv7 architecture.
PX5: Cortex A53*(Octacore) - 64-bit*ARMv8 architecture.
PX6: Cortex A72 (I'm not sure of the details - brand new platform)
From what I've seen, most Android 8.0 units are PX5 and most Android 8.1 units are PX6 (brand new). Units with older versions of Android are probably PX3, I'm assuming. Most of these units do not get "official" major Android version updates - the manufactureres just release new models instead of upgrading existing models (but some can be upgraded via custom ROM's).
Personally, I would probably look for a PX5 MTCE octa-core unit with 4GB of RAM. I wouldn't consider anything older than a PX5/Android 8.0 unit - and like I said, I'd recommend 4GB of RAM if you can find it. The PX6 units are brand new - there are no custom ROM's or anything for them yet or anything. They also seem to come with less RAM and storage from what I've seen?!?!
Only way to be 100% sure what you are getting is to ask the seller - they should be able to tell you the processor type and "MCU" type (MTCE-XXX),where XXX is the MCU type. The MCU is like the "go between" between the Andorid OS and the radio hardware (MCU type can be seen under the Android settings menu) - you may even ask them to send a screenshot of the hardware info from the Android settings to confirm what it actually is.
Just a "general" overview of some of the basics - I hope that helps.
Oh - and if you have a CANBUS car, you need a CANBUS adapter. If the seller is selling a unit specifically for your car, they usually include the CANBUS adapter. That will allow your steering wheel controls to keep working and other items.

Yes. That actually helped. These with 4 GB RAM and at least a PX5 cost more, about $350 so I'm going to wait, save up a bit more, because I also need to convert my car from 1 DIN to 2DIN and that will cost me at least an extra $70.
I also want one that looks like the factory equipped one, so, yeah, I'll just wait another month or so.
Thank you for your answers, guys!
Sent from my SM-G935FD using Tapatalk

I have a mekede unit supposed to be android 8.1..... It's not it's actually 6.0
This was from mekede official store on aliexpress
They are now not answering my messages and unfortunately I didn't figure this out until after the buyer protection time limit had ended.

Just to post an update to my original post... At first, I thought that the sound quality was great. But the more and more I used the head-unit, I found that sound quality was NOT up to par with my previous WinCE head-units. And I also ran into noise-related issues. I did everything in my power to try and resolve these issues (including using external amps for better sound quality), but in the end, I gave up and re-installed my WinCE head-unit.
Unfortunately, from my experience, these Android head-units just aren't up to par in terms of sound-quality and noise-rejection. I had noise-related issues from the LED backlighting, USB devices, wifi and bluetooth wasn't very good either. Hopefully, they continue to improve upon these units, because having the head-unit run a full version of Android is great - but sound quality is also important - and even more important to some (like me). Would be great if the big audio companies starting building full Android head-units (Pioneer, Kenwood, Alpine, JVC, etc).
Since my WinCE unit supports Easy Connect, I can still get the advantages of Andoid for certain things while also having fantastic sound-quality and no noise issues. Best of both worlds. Granted, the WinCE unit is significantly more expensive ($699 vs $350), but just like anything else - in most cases, "you get what you pay for". The WinCE unit that I'm talking about specifically is the Dynavin N7 - and they use high-qaulity sound components. But I also had Rosen WinCE head-units and they sounded great as well (but again, significantly more expensive).
All depends on what is most important to you - software flexibility or sound quality.

My new 2021 PX6 from Phoenix Automotive Vertical Fast Boot OEM fiber option. Had this for about 2 months. I use it with an external OEM AMP. Used in a Lexus.
AMP is not fiber. The unit is a PX6 MCU RL78c (2014 Chip-set) NCHHWY V332-0 , Framework px6-userdebug 9 PQ2A 190305.002. OS 9.
Audio is very good! I love the sound. Speakers: OEM Mark Levnson in the front, 6.5inch JBL GX600C + Sound Ordnance M2-10DVC 10inch in the back.
Tested only with stock HU.
What works on the stock PX6:
(With correct wiring harness)
1. Fast-Boot. After first 2 setup boot-ups, on is instant for 24 hours of nonusage.
2. AC controls work (Cooling).
3. Searing Wheel controls work out of the box on Lexus w/canbus included.
4. Audio player works but not a good GUI.
5. Phone works with Bluetooth.
6. Android Auto is installed and works.
7. DSP Sound works with an EQ and many settings, GUI is good.
8. Most User Settings seem to work. Wheel mapping may stop after Fast-Boot for 5 minutes (bug).
9. Navigation (Google Maps) works, GPS works.
9.5. Maps works Off-Line in Google Maps.
10. Radio with about 16 memory storage.
What is not working in a Lexus / Toyota :
1. Factory Settings. All-access is denied. Locked out! Big Issue for me.
2. GAS monitor/usage. This should work out of the box. Phoenix says it is not working and is disabled in Lexus. BUT is advertised to work on the Phoenix site.
3. Sound MAX loud setting will NOT save after reboots. After boot, the sound is all the way up, loud. After talking with Phoenix tech, no fix. However, if FastBoot is on, the audio may save to a lower setting for about 24hours. If you don't use HU for 24 hours settings are lost again..
4. Screen will reflect windshield in GS Gen3 Lexus. May be an issue in sunlight.
5. If you wear Sunglasses or have glasses that do auto shade to dark, you may not like the screen because it can be hard to see.
6. Radio- Local / Distance not working. Can't find a fix. However Local radio is working fine. I get most local stations clear.
7. Temp display worked for 2 days now showing -40 at all times. (No fix).
8. Fast-Boot image changing. The stock app that changes the BOOT-Image will not work. It is out of date and will not work with Android 9+. It needs an update from Manufacture. A Phoenix Auto add-on app (download), also will not work, out of date. App complains of an Error with the Android version.
Add-On that work:
1. Musicolet from Play Store. The Stock Audio player sucks big time.
2. Bluedriver OBD2 reader.
3. Torque Lite or Pro OBD2 reader.
4. Function Generator, from Play Store.
That's about it.
Roger Out

Newbie Help! Pumpkin or Dasaita Confused

Hello Members,
I'm looking to convert my Volkswagen Stock Stereo Unit (RCD 310) to an Android HU, My Stock RCD 310 served me well without any trouble for the last 7 years, but it was a very basic stereo without any fancy techs involved in it just a CD /USB player. Hence my hunt for an upgrade began initial plan is to upgrade it to RCD 340 Series to keep the stock look and with updated features like Android Auto, Car play etc. But since they are mobile phone dependent which needs to be constantly connected to your mobile phone to access the android auto features i ruled out that upgrade and decided to try independent Android HU, After a Lot of Online search I narrowed down to 3 different Android Head units in Ali express.
1.) Pumpkin Model Name:ND0380B (Pumpkin Android 8.1 Car Multimedia Player 2 din 9" Car Radio GPS Fastboot Car Stereo No DVD Player For VW/Skoda/Golf/Volkswagen)
I liked the look of the above Model but its a Quad core processor with 2GB ram and also after having a conversation with a person who own it he was strongly against this player and its running slow and have few lags. Hence ruled out
2.) Pumpkin Model Name: AE0373B(Pumpkin 2 Din 8'' Android 8.0 Car DVD Player GPS 4G RAM Car Stereo For Volkswagen/Skoda/Golf/Polo FM Rds Radio DAB+ Headunit)
I have almost finalized the above head unit and right before placing order I bumped up into Dasaita Brand and looked into their models. Luckily I found a similar Pumpkin 9" model in Dasaita which had PX5 octacore with 4GB ram (assuming this will run faster. ) Dasaita 9" Android 8.0 Car GPS Radio Player for Seat Leon Alhambra Altea Toledo with Octa Core 4GB+32GB Auto Stereo Multimedia.
Now I'm confused which one to choose, After reading some couple of XDA threads i understood all these chinese models are similar but would like to know which one is more reliable and have a better customer support Pumpkin or Dasaita, Would love to hear from some owners who own any of these devices in this forum.
TIA
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Looking for 8"" PX5/6 ... any experience about Bosion devices?

Hi,
just now there is a sc9853i device (Joying) in my car that worries me every day...
I am looking for another one that can be tuned with custom roms like Malaysk AND has a 8" screen (universal device).
I saw the Bosion BX-P061 that could fit to my needs, but i have never heard something about that vendor.
If there is any experience about Bosion or that device, please tell me...
For example: I very often use my steering wheel, so the longpress option of my device before was a really win. Not possible with Joying devices. Also the main behaviour of that device (Xtrons PX5) was much better than the Joying i actually have. Unfortunately the devices have only 7" screens...
Thanks
Bommel

No such thing as a boison, joying or xtrons unit. They all resellers from various Chinese factories.
Ask the reseller to list the MCU type to find out who makes the unit. The MTCD/E/P units currently provide the most Shared knowledge and modified roms.

Trouble searching for headunit for ford

I am currently looking for a headunit for my ford transit, but I have trouble finding the perfect one, I have found a couple but uncertain if they're any good(see links).
I would like to be able to add 360 bird view.
Decent sound, will properly add an active subwoofer later on
wireless android auto
smooth OS
nice to have: Dab & 4g
one that might work
https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005004902344873.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2deu
this is the original headunit: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KRQalanxDLk/hqdefault.jpg
Car: Ford transit V363 2018
Would be nice if someone to give some pointers for what to look for, or any pointers have to search for more good options.

Hallo, how about taking an excellent processor UIS7862 on the FYT platform, from manufacturers such as EKIY, preferably 6-8 GB of ram(T7 6G 128G-B, T7 8G 128G-B) , if you want 360 cameras, the function is optional for some types, you better write to the seller first. For Dab+, you have to buy an adapter and stick the antenna on the glass, or you can buy a hub for the existing antenna. It has 4.1 coaxial and optical output, so if you have this connection option, the subwoofer should work. Android auto is built in, but it's only by wire, but with such a powerful inclusion of AA I consider it unnecessary, but that's a matter of opinion. Internet wifi + 4g. You can find everything it can do on the device page, direct any questions to the seller:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005123491195.html
Dab+
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832747015924.html
3D 360 camera:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832806473556.html
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Hey thanks for the awesome reply, how do you see if a unit uses the UIS7862 Processor? since I cannot see that in the description.
Is there no with wireless android auto?

T7 should have UIS7862 FYT, if you want to be sure, write to the seller. As far as I know, the android car can do 5g wifi wirelessly, but I haven't found a suitable device for the Transit.

Okay thanks, the one you sent looks promising is the resolution nice? and I see it's only Android 10 and not 12, is that an issue for a head unit?

Blu-ray QLED 1280x720 is good, but everyone can have a different opinion. I don't see any problem with android 10, on the contrary they don't lie like other sellers who offer android 11 and it's fake, it's actually android 10.

My car has built in parking sensors from the factory, they work through Can-bus.
Would these work for the android headunit?

I don't know how they have a well-made canbus for the Transit, I recommend taking a photo of the cable harness and the connector you have in the car and writing a question and requirements to the seller. I can't advise you in this case.

Hey Pavel, I am a little confused isn't the T900 the same as the one you sent?
https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005004922549850.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.5ed24ae4XI0i9P&mp=1&gatewayAdapt=glo2deu
The T900 is from EKIY Autoradio Store and only 7 day delivery

EKIY has more stores, it should be the same, only it is under a different label and is photographed with a different launcher, choose the store that suits you better, especially check with the seller if it really has the UIS7862 FYT and if the power cable with canbus adapter, and if it also supports 360 cameras. You can install whatever launcher you want, you can find it here:
7862/8581 FYT Factory by Mario Dantas

Okay thanks for all the feedback, The only thing I am missing is one with volume knob but I think I can forget about that
How's the sound quality from them? are they good enough or should I invest in a external DSP?

You can put an external volume control. The device has a DSP, there is a wide range of settings, the quality should be good, there are different opinions about the sound quality of these units, everyone has a different idea about the sound quality. Buying Chinese units is always risky, I am not a seller to guarantee that everything will work perfectly, such questions are unnecessary. You have to decide for yourself if you want to go for it.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32991722079.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000023.7.651e7d05faF6jw