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Weloop Tommy Smartwatch (FAQ/Updates/Hacks)

The purpose of this thread is to have all information regarding the Weloop Tommy, gathered, fresh and to the point.
(i am not affiliated with Weloop)
Please read both post number 1, 2 and search thread before asking questions thank you.
FAQ
Q:What is the latest firmware?
[Release] black watch v3.19 firmware update notifications [Copy link]
This update to the firmware update, the client does not update the current firmware version v3.18 firmware watches friends can try to use the old client detects the firmware update.
Update:
Solve watches restart, restore factory settings watches language will change.
Download Link:
iOS client 2.079: http://fir.im/iosobt
Android client 1.29.3702b: http://fir.im/andobt
Unofficial file archive of WeLoop Tommy. APK-Files with ending "b" are BETA http://www.wtf.li/
Q: When is the next app update
A: Weloop v. 3.0 will be released as closed beta 7the of March 2015 we don't know when there will be an open english release....
the extensive update 3.0 have,
better health monitoring
profiles
sleep monitoring
more alarms weekdays/weekend
and more.
(see attached pictures for app version 3.0 UI improvements
Q: What does the settings do?
- Backlight
24H: Backligth always turns on when button is pressed
Nite: Backligth turns on when button is pressed at night time (from 17–8)
Off: Backligth Always Off
- Motion
24H: Motion detection always on (backlight turns on when motion is detected)
Nite: Motion detection on at night time (from 17-8)
Off: Motion detection Off
- Night
On: Notification vibration disabled at night (from 23–8)
Off: Notification enabled at night
- O Clock
On: every whole hour the watch will vibrate. 12'O'clock etc.
Off: Off
- Fitness
On: Fitness functionality on
Off: Off
- Language
Chinese
English
- Anti Loss
On: Alarm when Phone is out of BT range
Off: Off
Q: Is there Cyrillic support
A: Yes
Q: The GoClever Ecos Chronos is the same watch right?
A: Yes it is on the hardware side, and you can with a "hack" install the firmware from the ECOS on the Tommy. (see next post for How to.!)
Awesome Weloop Review by VECTRON
http://forum.xda-developers.com/smartwatch/other-smartwatches/weloop-tommy-smartwatch-looks-best-t2864444

Troubleshooting
Q: i can not update my watch/its stuck/acting weird
Have you tried to reset the watch? there are 3 ways to do it
Restart watch from app. under update there is a restart button (it says reset but it restarts and keeps all your settings)
Reset from watch (Last menu point, this resets everything)
Hard reset (connect charge cable and press up and down button to reset)
Force OTA update:
Connect your watch to the charger. (watch must be charging)
Press all 3 buttons on the side simultaneously
Release the 2 side buttons, and keep the middle button pressed until you get the upgrade connecting display. (this might take some seconds)
Delete connection from phone
Connect and pair from app and upgrade
If you are on an Android device and it cannot connect, try an ios device, and vice versa
Q: The watch keeps switching back to chinese
More people have experienced that if the language is non english the watch will reset to chinese. Changing the phone OS to english stops the watch from switching to Chinese.
"Hacks"
How to make your own watchfaces:
user fcsabika has created a cool tool to create your own watchfaces
WeLoop Tommy Watchface Creator
attached are also some watchfaces made by user ruicoel filename "project rui.zip"
How To install GoClever Chronos ECO firmware on Weloop tommy (android only)
Download latest ECO firmware to phone
Disconnect Watch from phone, install ECO app
Go to “Check For Upgrade”
Tap on the middle circle six times
“Select a firmware file___ [Browse]”
Watch must be in forced OTA
Update watch.
You can flash between weloop and Goclever firmware (always be careful and follow instructions when flashing, i take no responsibility for bricked or exploding watches...)
To install weloop firnware, follow same instructions but use weloop app instead.
PROJECT OPEN FIRMWARE (please make sure you understand what this is and what it does before you attemtp to flash your watch)
Make a Weloop Tommy an open source sport watch that can be used without a mobile phone. Want to see a heart rate when running, cycling speed and cadence when cycling or number of laps while swimming? Help to make it possible! LINK
This project is divided into six phases:
Phase 1: find out and document watch pinout so it will be possible to communicate with screen, accelerometer and a flash memory from a custom firmware. DONE
Phase 2: write a custom firmware that will print sample text on a screen and expose a BLE service. Firmware will be flashed using SWD connector. DONE
Phase 3: make it possible to upload a custom firmware using OTA. This will save the waterproof case from destruction. DONE
Phase 4: update softdevice to the newest version (S110 8.0.0). Add possibility to switch to other softdevice (S120/S130) DONE
Phase 5: create a "terminal" firmware that allows to control what is displayed on a watch from an android/iOS app. IN PROGRESS
Phase 6: create a "standalone" firmware using S130 softdevice that can connect to external sensors (HRS, CSCS etc) without a phone. TODO
Go support developer Krzysiek
Goclever APK & FW file is attached to this post.
Latest Chronos ECO firmware 3.18
http://www.chronos.goclever.com:8080/fileServer/firmware/CHRONOSECO_V3.18_1.bin
Chronos ECO app (android)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yf.foreign.goclever
Chronos ECO IOS app
https://itunes.apple.com/th/app/goclever-chronos-eco/id955306578?mt=8
BUGS & Annoyances
Notification not always deleted from phone when deleted on watch
Watch freezes sometimes
Being able to set the night time manually would be great (This can be done with the Goclever fw)

I'm no Dev so I'm not sure if this is of any help. While updating the watch I wanted to ensure my screen stayed on so I was tapping the screen.
If you tap the center of the percentage 6 times a pop up appears for you to select your update file. If you select browse it gives you access to a bunch of folders that appear to be inside the app or maybe the watch itself. I tried it several times and 6 is the magic number to make the option appear or disappear. It doesn't work if the watch isn't upgrading it's firmware.
Hope it can be of some use

skiiermike said:
I'm no Dev so I'm not sure if this is of any help. While updating the watch I wanted to ensure my screen stayed on so I was tapping the screen.
If you tap the center of the percentage 6 times a pop up appears for you to select your update file. If you select browse it gives you access to a bunch of folders that appear to be inside the app or maybe the watch itself. I tried it several times and 6 is the magic number to make the option appear or disappear. It doesn't work if the watch isn't upgrading it's firmware.
Hope it can be of some use
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Thanks was this working on ios or android?,
will add to FAQ

taleboblen said:
Thanks was this working on ios or android?,
will add to FAQ
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Android.

Thx
Thnx for the information, all working ok on my samsung s4, get the last version v3.18.
thx again

backlight
first of all thanks for this thread :good:
the nite backlight on my tommy watch actually comes on after 5PM (17:00)
i am from Slovakia, phone language is English, time zone CET (GMT+1)
interesting to see that yours turns on after 23:00

chsustik said:
first of all thanks for this thread :good:
the nite backlight on my tommy watch actually comes on after 5PM (17:00)
i am from Slovakia, phone language is English, time zone CET (GMT+1)
interesting to see that yours turns on after 23:00
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Thanks for the update. i decrypted some of the information from the official Weloop FAQ. and yes i can now confirm that you are right. it turns on from 17-8 thanks again. I have now updated the FAQ with the correct time for all Night settings. :good:

Hello! Can someone make last CHRONOS ECO apk link to download? I cant download it from google play.

k0ra said:
Hello! Can someone make last CHRONOS ECO apk link to download? I cant download it from google play.
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Hi , the chronos eco app is not compatible with the Weloop Tommy.

Brand new Tommy, it was paired with my phone but the connection was unstable, so I tried and forced an OTA update, watch is "Updating... 0 pct" but now the phone cannot detect the watch any more
Resetting the watch will restart it in ota update mode again!
Any help appreciated...

l.capriotti said:
Brand new Tommy, it was paired with my phone but the connection was unstable, so I tried and forced an OTA update, watch is "Updating... 0 pct" but now the phone cannot detect the watch any more
Resetting the watch will restart it in ota update mode again!
Any help appreciated...
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Happened to me also, try to delete connection under bluetooth settings on device. now connect to to weloop and pair from Weloop app. keep trying and then go to update. again persistence is key. keep trying to update suddenly it will connect and update.
Whas the watch on latest firmware when you tried the force OTA?
are you on android or ios see if there is an updated App for you phone. see link on OP for beta APK.
let me know if it works.

watch was not on latest firmware, cant' remember which version it had.
I'm on android, also v1.24 does not help as check for updates does not go beyond "Checking version...".

k0ra said:
Hello! Can someone make last CHRONOS ECO apk link to download? I cant download it from google play.
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l.capriotti said:
watch was not on latest firmware, cant' remember which version it had.
I'm on android, also v1.24 does not help as check for updates does not go beyond "Checking version...".
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Try to update the Weloop app, latest is 1.27.
kill weloop app
delete bt connection from phone.
Open weloop app
conmect and update. Keep trying it can take a couple of times.
If all fails if possible try with other device and or ios device

update: I used an iphone and after a few retries I got it on v3.18.
back to android, but the pairing and the sync is problematic, to say the least, on my Huawei P7...

skiiermike said:
I'm no Dev so I'm not sure if this is of any help. While updating the watch I wanted to ensure my screen stayed on so I was tapping the screen.
If you tap the center of the percentage 6 times a pop up appears for you to select your update file. If you select browse it gives you access to a bunch of folders that appear to be inside the app or maybe the watch itself. I tried it several times and 6 is the magic number to make the option appear or disappear. It doesn't work if the watch isn't upgrading it's firmware.
Hope it can be of some use
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Click to collapse
If it's allowing you to select an update file, surely it is showing you the file system of the phone? Otherwise, you'd have no way to put a firmware update file there to select. My understanding would be this allows you to install a firmware update file stored on your phone, although I can't test this for sure as my Android phone is currently being repaired. There's some discussion about this here and that thread also contains a very small amount of analysis on the firmware file (VERY small amount, basically just analysing the name of the binary file), and another app that is apparently in some way related (link).
For what I can glean from the description of that app (seemingly made by the manufacturer of the SoC [System on a Chip] used in the WeLoop Tommy), it would appear that devices using the SoC (including the Tommy) have three firmwares: "bootloader", "soft device" and "application". The one embedded within the WeLoop app apk has the name "ble_app_ancs.bin"; ble stands for bluetooth low energy and ancs apparently stands for apple notification centre services. That leaves "app" - my guess would be this is the "application firmware". I'm not entirely sure the roles of the "bootloader" and "soft device" firmwares, but my guess is the one or other allows the device to get into "DFU mode" (or "OTA mode" as it seems to be referred to also), meaning in theory it should perhaps be possible to recover from any bricks arising from flashing dodgy application firmwares.
So potentially there is the option of reverse engineering the firmware (easily obtained from here: http://wtf.li/ - mirror of the APKs of the app [each of which contain a version of the firmware], and also one version of the firmware (the .bin file) separately), and creating a custom/modified one, while still being able to recover (because bootloader & soft device should be untouched). However, I have neither the expertise nor the time to look into that.
Without an Android phone with which to run either of the apps right now, I can't poke about too much (I only received my Tommy today), but once I get my phone back I'll maybe try and see if I can find anything else interesting. I'd like to see if I can figure out any way to get access to the watch faces, and see if they can be reverse engineered in any way, for example.
EDIT: Here is the output of strings run on the firmware binary from the latest version of the app on http://wtf.li : http://pastebin.com/X7TQXTb3 - nothing particularly interesting, a few filenames of the source files and a few other strings seen in the watch interface and stuff.
EDIT: A couple of URLs accessed by the app (seemingly related to updating):
http://au.umeng.com/api/check_app_update
http://www.yfsmart.com/weloopInterface/getFirmware.do
I can't see anything on these sites, my guess would be they need query strings parameters or something (not really sure what, some way of identifying that the app is accessing the site) to actually do anything.
EDIT: Hmm... http://www.yfsmart.com/weloopInterface/firmware_Upload.jsp - this site seems to allow you to upload a firmware. I wonder if it allows anyone to upload a firmware, which would then be downloaded by everyone when they check for updates? Certainly seems rather insecure...There's a bunch of other pages at http://www.yfsmart.com/weloopInterface/ haven't looked through them all yet.
EDIT: From what I can glean from this page ("SoftDevices" section under the "Development Tools and Software" tab), it seems like the "soft device" firmware is essentially a bit like a library, it's a precompiled binary supplied by Nordic (company that makes chip inside Tommy) which provides all the networking functions etc. which the "application" firmware uses. So:
Code:
application = front end UI (basically, the part WeLoop made)
soft device = "library" via which application can access hardware etc.
bootloader = initial part of firmware that loads SD + app firmwares
So the only really interesting part is probably the application firmware, the part that is in the WeLoop app. That's the code that actually "matters", the rest is just low level stuff. For actually changing the interface or whatever, modifying the app firmware would be all that's needed (for example, to increase the font size or the back light duration etc.).

SifJar said:
If it's allowing you to select an update file, surely it is showing you the file system of the phone? Otherwise, you'd have no way to put a firmware update file there to select. My understanding would be this allows you to install a firmware update file stored on your phone, although I can't test this for sure as my Android phone is currently being repaired. There's some discussion about this here and that thread also contains a very small amount of analysis on the firmware file (VERY small amount, basically just analysing the name of the binary file), and another app that is apparently in some way related (link).
For what I can glean from the description of that app (seemingly made by the manufacturer of the SoC [System on a Chip] used in the WeLoop Tommy), it would appear that devices using the SoC (including the Tommy) have three firmwares: "bootloader", "soft device" and "application". The one embedded within the WeLoop app apk has the name "ble_app_ancs.bin"; ble stands for bluetooth low energy and ancs apparently stands for apple notification centre services. That leaves "app" - my guess would be this is the "application firmware". I'm not entirely sure the roles of the "bootloader" and "soft device" firmwares, but my guess is the one or other allows the device to get into "DFU mode" (or "OTA mode" as it seems to be referred to also), meaning in theory it should perhaps be possible to recover from any bricks arising from flashing dodgy application firmwares.
So potentially there is the option of reverse engineering the firmware (easily obtained from here: http://wtf.li/ - mirror of the APKs of the app [each of which contain a version of the firmware], and also one version of the firmware (the .bin file) separately), and creating a custom/modified one, while still being able to recover (because bootloader & soft device should be untouched). However, I have neither the expertise nor the time to look into that.
Without an Android phone with which to run either of the apps right now, I can't poke about too much (I only received my Tommy today), but once I get my phone back I'll maybe try and see if I can find anything else interesting. I'd like to see if I can figure out any way to get access to the watch faces, and see if they can be reverse engineered in any way, for example.
EDIT: Here is the output of strings run on the firmware binary from the latest version of the app on http://wtf.li : http://pastebin.com/X7TQXTb3 - nothing particularly interesting, a few filenames of the source files and a few other strings seen in the watch interface and stuff.
EDIT: A couple of URLs accessed by the app (seemingly related to updating):
http://au.umeng.com/api/check_app_update
http://www.yfsmart.com/weloopInterface/getFirmware.do
I can't see anything on these sites, my guess would be they need query strings parameters or something (not really sure what, some way of identifying that the app is accessing the site) to actually do anything.
EDIT: Hmm... http://www.yfsmart.com/weloopInterface/firmware_Upload.jsp - this site seems to allow you to upload a firmware. I wonder if it allows anyone to upload a firmware, which would then be downloaded by everyone when they check for updates? Certainly seems rather insecure...There's a bunch of other pages at http://www.yfsmart.com/weloopInterface/ haven't looked through them all yet.
EDIT: From what I can glean from this page ("SoftDevices" section under the "Development Tools and Software" tab), it seems like the "soft device" firmware is essentially a bit like a library, it's a precompiled binary supplied by Nordic (company that makes chip inside Tommy) which provides all the networking functions etc. which the "application" firmware uses. So:
Code:
application = front end UI (basically, the part WeLoop made)
soft device = "library" via which application can access hardware etc.
bootloader = initial part of firmware that loads SD + app firmwares
So the only really interesting part is probably the application firmware, the part that is in the WeLoop app. That's the code that actually "matters", the rest is just low level stuff. For actually changing the interface or whatever, modifying the app firmware would be all that's needed (for example, to increase the font size or the back light duration etc.).
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Thank you for the insights and findings its all very promising. :good:
On a sidenote:
I talked to one of my colleagues who is an engineer (i'm not a dev but a Designer), it seems like we in the office are playing around with the exact same SOC from NordicSemiconducter. we tried one of the apps from the google play store and it connects to the weloop(see attached pic). The app was called "nRF Master Control Panel", tried the other apps from NordicSC but no luck.
Hopefully there will be some sort of SDK with the v3.0 release on the 30th...

I got my Android phone back today, and haven't tinkered too much with Tommy just yet, but I can confirm that the file system you are browsing when you tap the percentage 5 times during an update is just the phone file system. It browses from root (i.e. /), rather than /sdcard or whatever, which is the standard, user accessible partition, hence there are some folders etc. you may not recognise, but amongst them will be "sdcard" which will take you to your regular storage (note: this is the case on phones without a micro SD card as well), where you could easily place an update file.

SifJar said:
I got my Android phone back today, and haven't tinkered too much with Tommy just yet, but I can confirm that the file system you are browsing when you tap the percentage 5 times during an update is just the phone file system. It browses from root (i.e. /), rather than /sdcard or whatever, which is the standard, user accessible partition, hence there are some folders etc. you may not recognise, but amongst them will be "sdcard" which will take you to your regular storage (note: this is the case on phones without a micro SD card as well), where you could easily place an update file.
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Thanks for the confirmation. :good:

taleboblen said:
Troubleshooting
Force OTA update:
Connect your watch to the charger.
Press all 3 buttons on the side simultaneously
Release the 2 side buttons, and keep the middle button pressed until you get the upgrade connecting display. (this might take some seconds)
Delete connection from phone
Connect and pair from app and upgrade
If you are on an Android device try an ios device, and vice versa
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I tried to use the OTA update to go from 3.17 to 3.18 (on Android) but Tommy stuck on screen "WeLoop ... Udating 0%", my smartphone (HTC M8) with its APP (latest version) dont find the Tommy and it remains bricked, how do I restart it? I tried all combinations, but remains on the screen, help me!

My radio doesn't allow me to save channels as i desired

Hi Guys,
I'm using chinese double din android stereo in my car, i don't know the brand (no label or sticker on the box or on the device), when i start the radio system shows pre-saved frequencies at the memory, i'm changing frequency and want to save to memory (like first one) when i hit to save button it saves after the closest frequency, for example if want to save 89.6 FM to memory it saves after 89.3FM directly, i couldn't find the delete pre-installed channels (keep my finger on the memory didn't work, tried the drag saved frequency didn't work too), there is only self motion search button on the interface and it's scanning all frequencies and saves automatically to memory.
as you can see attached radio settings, there are two options, if i select FM INSIDE or AUTOMATCH my radio works, but if i choose the NXP6851 radio app doesn't even starts(it's crashing when i hit to radio button).
I've downloaded couple of tuner app from forum(like MTCFlatRadio) but there is no sound with those apps.
Is there any fm tuner app i can use with my stereo?
My system info and stock radio app's pictures as attached.

sheshman said:
Hi Guys,
I'm using chinese double din android stereo in my car, i don't know the brand (no label or sticker on the box or on the device), when i start the radio system shows pre-saved frequencies at the memory, i'm changing frequency and want to save to memory (like first one) when i hit to save button it saves after the closest frequency, for example if want to save 89.6 FM to memory it saves after 89.3FM directly, i couldn't find the delete pre-installed channels (keep my finger on the memory didn't work, tried the drag saved frequency didn't work too), there is only self motion search button on the interface and it's scanning all frequencies and saves automatically to memory.
as you can see attached radio settings, there are two options, if i select FM INSIDE or AUTOMATCH my radio works, but if i choose the NXP6851 radio app doesn't even starts(it's crashing when i hit to radio button).
I've downloaded couple of tuner app from forum(like MTCFlatRadio) but there is no sound with those apps.
Is there any fm tuner app i can use with my stereo?
My system info and stock radio app's pictures as attached.
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My unit has the same issue. I think it's an issue of "Radio" app version.
A question for others to help us - is there a way to check the version of "Radio" app in our units?

kolai said:
My unit has the same issue. I think it's an issue of "Radio" app version.
A question for others to help us - is there a way to check the version of "Radio" app in our units?
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let me know if you find a solution, i'll try to root or flash new rom to fix it, i'll keep you posted

i'm giving up, tried lots of roms (including russian ones) but it cames with same radio app it doesn't allow you to arrange station order, also found and tried couple of radio apps and they doesn't work (crashing or no sound),if anyone found a solution please post but i'm not going to try anymore.

kolai said:
My unit has the same issue. I think it's an issue of "Radio" app version.
A question for others to help us - is there a way to check the version of "Radio" app in our units?
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first of all thanks to @gouster3 for his post.
Here is what you need to do, after this operation your radio would not let you save stations in desired order but radio app will work much more stable and your device will be rooted (no more bad reception or changing station automatically)
You need laptop, male to male usb cable(never ever try to do this operation through wireless ) and a paperclip or toothpick to hit reset button :
-you can buy or make an male to male usb cable, making one is pretty easy
-find two usb data cables, cut the cable from half or as you desired
-there will be 4 cables in it red-white-green-black
-solder those cables regarding their colors : red to red - white to white - green to green - black to black, don't just wrap them eachother and tape it,it could causing flash errors, soldering is the solid & best way, after soldering the cables just tape them to avoid any short.
download this rom : https://mega.nz/#!Fh8RUQIK!NjTdZOhAU9CRqaUihy-kUR7CxwVmP5P2M8jrPKHo2Ro
Extract the archive to your desktop;
- install drivers from SP_Driver folder
- make backup of your device, i didn't do it because it's easy to recover from brick,but a backup is better way.
Flashing process:
- open flash_tool.exe from ATC_Flash_Tool folder
- select Download-Agent MTK_AllInOne_DA.bin from ATC_Flash_Tool folder
- select Scatter-loading File AC8227L_Android_scatter.txt from Firmware folder
- make sure PRELOADER is not checked. (There isnt any in in my fw. Just in case if u use this guide for some another fw)
- press Download button
- connect your USB A to A cable one side to PC, another one to your head unit. I recommend u to use that 4 pin usb port (that one with smaller plastic end), but shouldnt matter.
- press RST button on your head unit (use some pin, paper clip or toothpick)
-wait until flashing process ends. There should appear green message.
- press RST button again and let yout headunit boot.
- perform factory reset on your head unit to prevent any bugs
after flashing a good boot you'll see old radio app still there here is what you need to do :
-download FmRadio.app from here https://mega.nz/#!Ifp0wSLC!ht3m0p9br7gi8cpAXTl2EEmorLxy_s2lXA3ccWxGcVU
-copy to your usb memory
-install rootexplorer from google play store https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.speedsoftware.explorer
-goto root->system->privapps
-You'll see there is a FMRadio.apk
-Cut and move to your usb drive (or just delete it,but i don't like delete things) (do not left that old FMRadio.apk there, if you do that it's installing the old app no matter what you do)
-Switch to your usb drive and copy downloaded FmRadio.apk
-Switch back to FmRadio folder under root->system->privapps and paste the downloaded FmRadio.apk
-Give permissions 0764
-goto factory settings (pasword 8888) and select reboot
-let the device reboot and ready
-open the radio app and you'll see radio app has changed as attached picture
Original poster of this post is @gouster3 , his car is mustang so he edited images according to mustang.
if you want to change boot animation ;
go to here : https://forum.xda-developers.com/android-auto/mtcb-software-development/mod-boot-animation-toyota-t3351617
-download boot animation as you desired
-extract the archive file and copy to your usb drive
-goto system->media
-you'll see bootanimation.zip
-rename it (like bootanimationold.zip)
-copy your own boot animation to system->media
-change copied file name to bootanimation.zip
-set permission as 0644
-reboot the device
-walkthrough of how to change boot animation is here : https://www.hongkiat.com/blog/change-android-boot-animation/
after full reboot your boot animation will change and your radio will work much better, it's still doesn't allow you to save stations as your order but works much better than the old one,i'm still looking for better radio app,if i find one i'll share here.
Your side buttons can loose calibration after this operation,to fix it go to factory settings->touch calibration
If you have reverse or forward camera it could go black after this operation, to fix it factory settings->Protocol Parameter Settings->Reverse video resolution settings->NTSC/PAL, save and your cameras will work fine(no reboot required.)

Hi Sheshman,
it's good that you've found a solution on this issue. Well done!
I'm not ready to change firmware on the unit. As it is, the unit serves my main purpose of using wireless CarPlay. When it works, don't touch it!

kolai said:
Hi Sheshman,
it's good that you've found a solution on this issue. Well done!
I'm not ready to change firmware on the unit. As it is, the unit serves my main purpose of using wireless CarPlay. When it works, don't touch it!
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yeah i'm using for same purpose too (car play,screen mirroring etc.) but the radio was itching my brain you know , this unit is cheap and does the job perfectly, don't change the firmware if you don't need to (it's painfull process as you know).
Cheers

sheshman said:
first of all thanks to @gouster3 for his post.
Here is what you need to do, after this operation your radio would not let you save stations in desired order but radio app will work much more stable and your device will be rooted (no more bad reception or changing station automatically)
You need laptop, male to male usb cable(never ever try to do this operation through wireless ) and a paperclip or toothpick to hit reset button :
-you can buy or make an male to male usb cable, making one is pretty easy
-find two usb data cables, cut the cable from half or as you desired
-there will be 4 cables in it red-white-green-black
-solder those cables regarding their colors : red to red - white to white - green to green - black to black, don't just wrap them eachother and tape it,it could causing flash errors, soldering is the solid & best way, after soldering the cables just tape them to avoid any short.
download this rom : https://mega.nz/#!Fh8RUQIK!NjTdZOhAU9CRqaUihy-kUR7CxwVmP5P2M8jrPKHo2Ro
Extract the archive to your desktop;
- install drivers from SP_Driver folder
- make backup of your device, i didn't do it because it's easy to recover from brick,but a backup is better way.
Flashing process:
- open flash_tool.exe from ATC_Flash_Tool folder
- select Download-Agent MTK_AllInOne_DA.bin from ATC_Flash_Tool folder
- select Scatter-loading File AC8227L_Android_scatter.txt from Firmware folder
- make sure PRELOADER is not checked. (There isnt any in in my fw. Just in case if u use this guide for some another fw)
- press Download button
- connect your USB A to A cable one side to PC, another one to your head unit. I recommend u to use that 4 pin usb port (that one with smaller plastic end), but shouldnt matter.
- press RST button on your head unit (use some pin, paper clip or toothpick)
-wait until flashing process ends. There should appear green message.
- press RST button again and let yout headunit boot.
- perform factory reset on your head unit to prevent any bugs
after flashing a good boot you'll see old radio app still there here is what you need to do :
-download FmRadio.app from here https://mega.nz/#!Ifp0wSLC!ht3m0p9br7gi8cpAXTl2EEmorLxy_s2lXA3ccWxGcVU
-copy to your usb memory
-install rootexplorer from google play store https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.speedsoftware.explorer
-goto root->system->privapps
-You'll see there is a FMRadio.apk
-Cut and move to your usb drive (or just delete it,but i don't like delete things) (do not left that old FMRadio.apk there, if you do that it's installing the old app no matter what you do)
-Switch to your usb drive and copy downloaded FmRadio.apk
-Switch back to FmRadio folder under root->system->privapps and paste the downloaded FmRadio.apk
-Give permissions 0764
-goto factory settings (pasword 8888) and select reboot
-let the device reboot and ready
-open the radio app and you'll see radio app has changed as attached picture
Original poster of this post is @gouster3 , his car is mustang so he edited images according to mustang.
if you want to change boot animation ;
go to here : https://forum.xda-developers.com/android-auto/mtcb-software-development/mod-boot-animation-toyota-t3351617
-download boot animation as you desired
-extract the archive file and copy to your usb drive
-goto system->media
-you'll see bootanimation.zip
-rename it (like bootanimationold.zip)
-copy your own boot animation to system->media
-change copied file name to bootanimation.zip
-set permission as 0644
-reboot the device
-walkthrough of how to change boot animation is here : https://www.hongkiat.com/blog/change-android-boot-animation/
after full reboot your boot animation will change and your radio will work much better, it's still doesn't allow you to save stations as your order but works much better than the old one,i'm still looking for better radio app,if i find one i'll share here.
Your side buttons can loose calibration after this operation,to fix it go to factory settings->touch calibration
If you have reverse or forward camera it could go black after this operation, to fix it factory settings->Protocol Parameter Settings->Reverse video resolution settings->NTSC/PAL, save and your cameras will work fine(no reboot required.)
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Hi, can u use that FMRadio.apk in v3 release?

gouster3 said:
Hi, can u use that FMRadio.apk in v3 release?
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V3 release?

sheshman said:
V3 release?
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I mean V3 release of my rom.

gouster3 said:
I mean V3 release of my rom.
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oh no, i didn't try yet,and seems like i've missed that release, could you please send me the link of the post that i can test it today.

sheshman said:
oh no, i didn't try yet,and seems like i've missed that release, could you please send me the link of the post that i can test it today.
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It isnt released yet. Just asking if i can include this radio app into v3 release.
Now just v2 available.
And small spoiler for you...
Messing up with android auto connection from phone to radio..
Maybe it would be ready with v3 release.

gouster3 said:
It isnt released yet. Just asking if i can include this radio app into v3 release.
Now just v2 available.
And small spoiler for you...
Messing up with android auto connection from phone to radio..
Maybe it would be ready with v3 release.
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oh sorry man, it's a very busy day i'm just reading and replying quickly that's why i missunderstood my bad sorry, yes you can i'm using this radio arround 3 weeks and it works fine, the only problem is it doesn't allow you the save stations as you order,it's saving memory to like ascending order.
"Messing up with android auto connection from phone to radio." booooooy oh boooooooooooy, Looking forward to see V3 of yours

sheshman said:
oh sorry man, it's a very busy day i'm just reading and replying quickly that's why i missunderstood my bad sorry, yes you can i'm using this radio arround 3 weeks and it works fine, the only problem is it doesn't allow you the save stations as you order,it's saving memory to like ascending order.
"Messing up with android auto connection from phone to radio." booooooy oh boooooooooooy, Looking forward to see V3 of yours
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Suddenly cannot get android auto working yet... but at least i got "android auto connected" message on my phone.
hopefully i can get it working in future... Anyways, i would keep that in v3 as it is now.

gouster3 said:
Suddenly cannot get android auto working yet... but at least i got "android auto connected" message on my phone.
hopefully i can get it working in future... Anyways, i would keep that in v3 as it is now.
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i did my tests about it couple weeks ago, android auto successfully paired and connected every 2 or 3 times over 10 tries, my problem was my phone,i'm using xiaomi mi 8 lite, when i try to install android auto from play store it says your phone doesn't support this app and not installing, so i downloaded the anroid auto app and installed manually to my phone,it works but really glitchy (i don't know it's the right word),so i assume that my phone causing the problem but i don't have any other brand to test it, what i can say is basicly it works on this head unit but i think it needs little bit tunning to make it work.

RDS problem
sheshman said:
Hi Guys,
I'm using chinese double din android stereo in my car, i don't know the brand (no label or sticker on the box or on the device), when i start the radio system shows pre-saved frequencies at the memory, i'm changing frequency and want to save to memory (like first one) when i hit to save button it saves after the closest frequency, for example if want to save 89.6 FM to memory it saves after 89.3FM directly, i couldn't find the delete pre-installed channels (keep my finger on the memory didn't work, tried the drag saved frequency didn't work too), there is only self motion search button on the interface and it's scanning all frequencies and saves automatically to memory.
as you can see attached radio settings, there are two options, if i select FM INSIDE or AUTOMATCH my radio works, but if i choose the NXP6851 radio app doesn't even starts(it's crashing when i hit to radio button).
I've downloaded couple of tuner app from forum(like MTCFlatRadio) but there is no sound with those apps.
Is there any fm tuner app i can use with my stereo?
My system info and stock radio app's pictures as attached.
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My android head unit , when enter in factory settings then radio has also 3 options , but I can`t switch from FM inside to NXP6851... when I save it and return to radio change is not kept, and again is on FM inside? Thera are red letters After the success of the save please reset again!!! but I really don`t know what to do and how to reset ...any help? Thanks

I was using my NXP6851 and with the same problem of setting stations, I pressed the Search key and then the tuner disappeared. I only see the radio APP. How do I solve it?

hello, i have the same head unit but i have 1gb ram/ 16 rom. this is possible update rom in this topic?

So I have a 950XL what should I do next?

Hi All
Just been given a Nokia 950XL. And have to say ugly phone but great camera!!!! But before I go setting it up etc what should I do first??
So please any advice would be appreciated.
Also include if you would recommend dual boot etc and what OS..
Also what app's would you recommend??
Whats the best compass app?
Is there an app that fully uses the Barometer etc?
Whats the Best app for Panoramic photos?
Is there any camera app alternatives etc?
Is there an OSM mapping app?
thank you in advance
regards
Lohtse

Keep it
Hi Lohtse,
This device is unique I spend days wake up without sleep to solve the problem of the apps and I realize something important
The problem is bad target system management by Microsoft development tools
Microsoft store is so dumb there is many helpful app but it want appear just by search
Some of the is apps "on papers" not match with your device system version but in reality you can install it and it will work
Now let me tell you it's not totally bad device if you get the exact apps on it, it will be almost like your laptop with many helpful staff
First
Check the latest updates and then you have to unlock the system so you can do some enhancements like:
Increasing Paging files from 256MB to 1GB
Transfer files via SFTP without using the USB cable
Uninstall official apps preinstalled like (Photos, Calculator..etc) -> you need this
And more..
Second
here list of apps you might have some of it but with old version:
Before you start just install the official AppInstaller to be able to install apps directly from the phone without alternative tool
Get it from here:
drive.google.com/file/d/1HfsBg8hiqlKBTroK0xvB45h_SiSBha_1/view
Also you need to read this because some of the apps need to modify the target system version before install otherwise it will not installed.
Deploy Unsigned APPX/UWP
Utilities:
Perfect Tool (Official Store)
(QR Code, Ruler, Compass, other helpful tools)
microsoft.com/en-us/p/app/9nblggh4r8dw
Microsoft Official
The new versions (you need to uninstall the previous apps using Introp Tools)
Translator (New)
drive.google.com/file/d/1QTcnJFhg2sgoxQsSFJVpLcb6QNUWzyB8/view
Photos (New)
Very very advanced and helpful you can edit videos with it
drive.google.com/file/d/1vW1lXXFo2RBy0UpXeqG1-EryabRPWVWH/view
Alarms & Clock (New)
drive.google.com/file/d/1kAamihWVXSAy70PKayjK21PS-bTbZas8/view
Calculator (New)
drive.google.com/file/d/1BneIdp59XrNtl0fE-inuN74VUr6bHqcw/view
Voice Recorder (New)
drive.google.com/file/d/1EVg1ViAxMn6fEtzZG8ds3rYWQcuTBmZp/view
Photos and Editors
Panorama & Camera app (New)
drive.google.com/file/d/1Vl392MRMXBOtfPM3DF32X4U05nlw6zeB/view
Lumia Cinemagraph (Official Store)
Cool app you can take photo and make part of it alive with repeated motion, just try it
microsoft.com/en-us/p/lumia-cinemagraph/9wzdncrfhx4d
Nokia Creative Studio (XAP APP Need Deployment tool)
published by Hritwik
https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4090254&d=1490599831
Multimedia
Movie Maker 8.1 (Official Store)
microsoft.com/en-us/p/movie-maker-81/9wzdncrfhwx8
Lumia Play To (Official Store)
Very good casting app it's working with my old TV which is great
microsoft.com/en-us/p/lumia-play-to/9wzdncrfhx3f
Video Tuner
Video Editing app with very good features
drive.google.com/file/d/1K1p5yxrVYwk9irAVK_czjkj-0sGj8w86/view
Art Tools
Paint 3D
drive.google.com/file/d/112ZYj86t4KY0X84-bItuDur8z6RuVym-/view
View 3D
drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ul3vSzff4hDo3oWM4vded1Iy952WH1Cs
Gaming Emulators
RetriX Universal Emulator (Enhanced)
RetriX (Universal Emulator) Enhanced Version
NES Box (Universal Emulator)
drive.google.com/file/d/16SXF4GXl7-KX0DKbYxSfaJjy_NR1hf91/view
PPSSPP
drive.google.com/drive/folders/1xuz1rCu3ThiLkTrerhWpLuT-SdzH0iDa
EmiNes
drive.google.com/file/d/1tpXx_Tc_8RoCY5bPjrjLotisBhs3nSE2/view
EmiPSX
drive.google.com/file/d/1fmb1JJGyoW9ZZ1fucum7TXaPrg1CVdN9/view
Navigators
Sygic (Official Store)
Works for me
microsoft.com/en-us/p/sygic-gps-navigation-maps-poi-route-directions/9nblggh16nlv
The only thing you might not find it, it's good browser I'm still looking for good option
most of the current browsers including Coc Coc not very good.
Most of the apps I found it on windowsviet.com which they have too many helpful apps.
About Dual Boot & Windows 10 ARM
You know.. I broke my phone system more than 5 times one of them it was completely dead but I was able to recover it again,
the point is if you need to try go ahead it's good to see full windows run on a phone and able to run x86 apps as well.
But
Here is few points why it's not very important
Your mobile internal storage will be filled by 70% because of the windows partition
You need a usable phone to call and send messages, it's not comfortable to switch the boot each time
Windows 10 Mobile is almost the same base of the normal Windows it just Microsoft makes it useless but I hope someone will be able to install a service to run windows apps inside it as I discovered in Windows 10 ARM, I was surprised that some of x86 apps works very well.
If you faced any problem during the installation or you need any assist let me know.

Hi
WOW excellent response thank you so much for taking the time to reply as you have..
Could you possible explain this a little further
First
Check the latest updates and then you have to unlock the system so you can do some enhancements like:
Increasing Paging files from 256MB to 1GB
Transfer files via SFTP without using the USB cable
Uninstall official apps preinstalled like (Photos, Calculator..etc) -> you need this
And more..
As to navigation apps am more looking for OSM mapping as I create my own maps for hiking etc
Regards
Lohtse

Update
If you got a new phone usually many updates need to be installed, this will fix many problems and increase the performance.
Go to "Settings"
Update & Security
Check for update / Windows Update
if there is any update it will appear or you will see a message "Your device is up to date"
If the system need updates this will take some time, and it might be there is many update not only one so keep try until you get "Your device is up to date"
Unlock
Unlocking the system is based on your needs.
If you are using the phone for regular use you may keep it as it is.
What I was meaning with
Increasing Paging: Paging files will help to handle more applications in the background
SFTP: to transfer the data via wireless but it's totally optional you can still use the cable
Uninstall apps
If you tried to install the new version of i.e."Photos" it will not work because it's already installed.
so the solution is to remove the current app, but by default windows will not allow you to do that form the settings because it's built in.
As solution you can use "Interop Tools" by gus33000
Available Here:
Release Interop Tools v1 Version 2.1.7.0 (Legacy) · gus33000/InteropTools
This is the latest release of Interop Tools from its Version 1 source with minor updates.
github.com
More details: Interop Tools v1 Version 2.1.7.0
Install / Sideload it (Check the guide below)
And go to "General"
Then Select "Applications"
Then Navigate to "Package List"
Search for the app you need to remove it.
You will see many packages related to the same app
In the bottom actions bar there is "4 lines" icon click on it to activate it.
Now select the packages you need to remove.
Click on the trash icon and wait until the app removed
Go to main screen to check if the app removed
If it's remove you can now install the new version
Note: I'm not sure if these steps works without unlocking I didn't tried before unlock, just try before to unlock it might work.
Install apps
Now Download the apps form the links and save them in custom folder.
Go to your device Settings
Select "Update & Security"
Select "For Developers"
Select "Developer Mode"
Activate "Turn on remote diagnostics"
Activate "Authentication"
Using your computer: open the browser and enter the link that appeared in the developer page in your phone
if you got security warning message ignore it and continue (it's normal)
On your phone press "Pair" Button you will see pin code
Enter this pin code in your browser page and click "Submit"
Now you can install the app called "AppInstaller" using the web page
Once you able to install "AppInstaller" you can almost install the other apps from you mobile directly.
Note your device and computer need to be on the same network
OSM Mapping
to be honest I never used it before so I will do some search about it.
If I got anything new will let you know.
I wish most of the descriptions is clear, if you need extra details please let me know.
lohtse said:
Hi
WOW excellent response thank you so much for taking the time to reply as you have..
Could you possible explain this a little further
First
Check the latest updates and then you have to unlock the system so you can do some enhancements like:
Increasing Paging files from 256MB to 1GB
Transfer files via SFTP without using the USB cable
Uninstall official apps preinstalled like (Photos, Calculator..etc) -> you need this
And more..
As to navigation apps am more looking for OSM mapping as I create my own maps for hiking etc
Regards
Lohtse
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I thought I had read somewhere that you can control how the flash functions(eg if all three flashes ar used or just one or two of them) I even thought I saw the setting.. But for the life of me I can't find out how to achieve this... Could someone point me in the right direction!!!!

astifan said:
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As solution you can use "Introp Tools"
Available in store: microsoft.com/en-us/p/interop-tools-preview/9ntgwlc0d3cs
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This version requires downloading the extensions after logging in to insidewindows.net because there is no General - Applications option in the menu by default.
Have you tried the open source Interop Tools v1 Version 2.1.7.0 made by @gus33000?

ze7zez said:
This version requires downloading the extensions after logging in to insidewindows.net because there is no General - Applications option in the menu by default.
Have you tried the open source Interop Tools v1 Version 2.1.7.0 made by @gus33000?
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You right I thought the version in the store same as the one I already have, I update the post with the latest version.
Many thanks for your notice.

right I have now done the introp thing... So how would I do the page file mod and how do you increase the screentime out(5mins is far too short)????

astifan said:
Most of the apps I found it on windowsviet.com which they have too many helpful apps.
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sadly now closed/domain for sale

lohtse said:
right I have now done the introp thing... So how would I do the page file mod and how do you increase the screentime out(5mins is far too short)????
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Increase the paging file (required unlocked device):
Open Interop Tools
Go to "Registry"
Select "Registry browser"
Select "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE (HKLM)"
Select "System"
Select "CurrentControlSet"
Select "Control"
Select "Session Manager"
Select "Memory Management"
Select "Paging File"
Now In "Registry Value Data" Change The numbers from 256 to 1024
The final value will be "u:\pagefiles.sys 1024 1024"
Click on the "right icon at the bottom" to save the result
To check if the result saved just reopen the "Paging File" again, If the result back to the original "256" maybe your device is not unlocked yet.
Reboot the device to apply the changes.
Change Screen timeout:
Open Interop Tools
Go to "Registry"
Select "Registry browser"
Select "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE (HKLM)"
Select "Software"
Select "Microsoft"
Select "Settings"
Select "Lock"
Select "DisableNever"
Set "Registry Value Data" to 0
Then go to settings and check "Never" will be available now with some extra values.

astifan said:
Increase the paging file (required unlocked device):
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is that boot loader unlocked or interop???
thank you for the information....
what other hacks would you suggest?

lohtse said:
is that boot loader unlocked or interop???
thank you for the information....
what other hacks would you suggest?
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To be able to edit some of the protected registry values you need to do "Interop Unlock"
"Interop Unlock" will allow you to do almost everything you need.
Don't activate "Full Filesystem Access" In "Unlock" -> "Interop Unlock" it will not work with Lumia 950/XL and it might affect on the usb connection.
If you didn't find a clear guide for "Interop Unlock" let me know I will write a full guide based on my experiment because some of the details online line is very clear.

astifan said:
To be able to edit some of the protected registry values you need to do "Interop Unlock"
"Interop Unlock" will allow you to do almost everything you need.
Don't activate "Full Filesystem Access" In "Unlock" -> "Interop Unlock" it will not work with Lumia 950/XL and it might affect on the usb connection.
If you didn't find a clear guide for "Interop Unlock" let me know I will write a full guide based on my experiment because some of the details online line is very clear.
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Thank you for that information worked a treat.
I have read that the FM radio is not activated on the 950xl, is this correct is so how do I reactivate it?
also is there away to have a bigger tile other than the three choices we have?

lohtse said:
Thank you for that information worked a treat.
I have read that the FM radio is not activated on the 950xl, is this correct is so how do I reactivate it?
also is there away to have a bigger tile other than the three choices we have?
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The radio is working by default, try this app (almost the best you could find)
Radio FM Phone
Sadly the tiles sizes are fixed as I know, if you want to add some design to the start page you can use this app
Group Tiles
and this app if you want to add custom tiles based on your needs
edgeTile
Check the attached image to see how I did some titles to organize the start page.

astifan said:
The radio is working by default, try this app (almost the best you could find)
Radio FM Phone
Sadly the tiles sizes are fixed as I know, if you want to add some design to the start page you can use this app
Group Tiles
and this app if you want to add custom tiles based on your needs
edgeTile
Check the attached image to see how I did some titles to organize the start page.
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Thank you for that... and radio works great... Have to say am loving the 950xl.... only thing I am really missing is a good off route navigation/mapping app if I could find a good one then everything would be nearly perfect.
also is there away to install the original lumia camera app so we can get flash control(number of flashes used ) back?
finally how do I gain full access to the file system on the device???

does any one have the file for this
Lumia Cinemagraph (Official Store)
Cool app you can take photo and make part of it alive with repeated motion, just try it
microsoft.com/en-us/p/lumia-cinemagraph/9wzdncrfhx4d
will not let me download it from store to device as says not compatible with this device

lohtse said:
does any one have the file for this
Lumia Cinemagraph (Official Store)
Cool app you can take photo and make part of it alive with repeated motion, just try it
microsoft.com/en-us/p/lumia-cinemagraph/9wzdncrfhx4d
will not let me download it from store to device as says not compatible with this device
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It should work, ignore the compatible message just check the following:
the apps updated including "Microsoft Store" from "Menu" -> "Donwloads and updates"
there is no remaining system updates "Settings" -> "Windows update"
check if there is a "Get" button sometimes it's appear even of there is a compatibility message, click on the button if you found it.
If nothing above worked do the following:
Go to your PC
Be sure you are using the same email/account in both "Phone/PC"
Open the browser and be sure you are logged to your account/email
Open the link of the app
click on "Get"
a message will appear "you own this app"
once you get this message go back to your phone
Open Microsoft store -> Menu
Select "My Library"
Check if the app is there (you can sort the library by name which is better)
Click "Install" behind the app icon
The problem is some of the apps does not appear in Phone store but it will appear in PC store
so this trick will help you to get many apps in the same way,
but I think it will work only with the browser not the desktop app.

astifan said:
It should work, ignore the compatible message just check the following:
the apps updated including "Microsoft Store" from "Menu" -> "Donwloads and updates"
there is no remaining system updates "Settings" -> "Windows update"
check if there is a "Get" button sometimes it's appear even of there is a compatibility message, click on the button if you found it.
If nothing above worked do the following:
Go to your PC
Be sure you are using the same email/account in both "Phone/PC"
Open the browser and be sure you are logged to your account/email
Open the link of the app
click on "Get"
a message will appear "you own this app"
once you get this message got back to your phone
Open Microsoft store -> Menu
Select "My Library"
Check if the app is there (you can sort the library by name which is better)
Click "Install" behind the app icon
The problem is some of the apps does not appear in Phone store but it will appear in PC store
so this trick will help you to get many apps in the same way,
but I think it will work only with the browser not the desktop app.
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did as you suggested.. all I get in store is .this app is not compatible with this device.
nevermind... missed the my library part .... worked a treat,,, thank you

lohtse said:
finally how do I gain full access to the file system on the device???
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As per my experiments, gain the full access to the file system is not a big deal.
the files are protected anyway and some of the important folders assigned to custom users you can't have access, even if you was able to force replace the ownership of the folder and open it.. it will cause some issues with the system.
if you have something really important in the future it's better to use Mass Storage Mode, but accessing the file system while windows is running almost useless.
just don't use the feature in "Interop Tools" which called "Full Filesystem Access" I tried it before and it caused a problem with the connection with the computer I wasn't able to access the storage

astifan said:
Hi Lohtse,
Gaming Emulators
RetriX Universal Emulator (Enhanced)
RetriX (Universal Emulator) Enhanced Version
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Trying to install this, Used durect method(filemanager) portal and interop. but always fails after installing net packages say a prerequisite for an install could not be satisfied... any ideas how to oover come this?

ATOTO S8 Standard newbie needs help

Hi after some playing around I got android auto working on my head unit with my samsung S8. I saw there was an update to the firmware and downloaded it but for the life of me i can't get it to install. I extracted all the files to the root of a USB stick and the update would start. As soon as the little android guy pops up it says error. After further investigating I found a file inside the other extracted files which was 6315_1.zip and extracted those to the root of my USB stick as well. Now when the android guy pops up the message is No command and the update stalls. Any help would be awesome. I tried searching but haven't found anything yet

Hi, hopefully you have solved this by now but just in case and to help others I had a similar issue.
Tl;dr you need to get into developer options and activate "Allow updates on startup" Car Launcher Pro allows this, maybe others do too.
Longer version:
Support couldn't help me but I accidentally stumbled on a solution myself. The below is a copy and paste reply to atoto support (it's disappointing they have not passed it on to you - assuming you asked them of course)
Start of email:
I have resolved my problem.
I installed Car Launcher Pro to look at the skin/theme options and needed to go back into system settings to change something.
However, when launching system settings from CLP it bypasses the stock ATOTO settings and displays full android settings. I was then able to see Developer Options and noticed one of the options was something like "Allow updates on start up"
I activated this option and I was able to update to the latest version successfully.
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Note I can't remember if developer options itself was already activated or whether I had to tap the build version button in the usual way. Good luck

Junsun V1 pro UI 3.0 display buttons don't work after screen calibration.

Hello,
I bought a Junsun V1 pro with UI 3.0 Interface and 8GB Ram + 128GB Flash Storage. It works quite well for me. However the Touch scrren calibration was a bit offset. So i searched the internet and found out, that it is possible to calibrate the touch screen after pressing the display with five fingers for some seconds. The screen calibrations also worked well but after this i relised, that my touch (or front) buttons don't work any more. I tried to reattach them to functions using the Touch Study menue in the factory settings menue (8878) but nothing happens there when i press the button (which was possible before). Does anyohne know this issue or has an idea how to solve this?
During the screen calibration you have to choose the resoloution and the direction of the first touch point to click. No possibility or options for the touch buttons.
Do you need any more information or pictures of the device?
Kind regards

I think I have a clue whats going on. When i play around with the settings Touch Origin X and Touch Origin Y I can get the display edge to work in touch study. However, i don't really get the left side to work. Could anyone take me some pictures of the factory settings menu "other". I think comparing the settings could help me out.
Kind regards

twinking said:
Hello,
I bought a Junsun V1 pro with UI 3.0 Interface and 8GB Ram + 128GB Flash Storage. It works quite well for me. However the Touch scrren calibration was a bit offset. So i searched the internet and found out, that it is possible to calibrate the touch screen after pressing the display with five fingers for some seconds. The screen calibrations also worked well but after this i relised, that my touch (or front) buttons don't work any more. I tried to reattach them to functions using the Touch Study menue in the factory settings menue (8878) but nothing happens there when i press the button (which was possible before). Does anyohne know this issue or has an idea how to solve this?
During the screen calibration you have to choose the resoloution and the direction of the first touch point to click. No possibility or options for the touch buttons.
Do you need any more information or pictures of the device?
Kind regards
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Hello, were you able to fix your problem?

Exorzist666 said:
Hello, were you able to fix your problem?
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Hi,
yes I was able to fix it with a backup of the factory settings menu. I got it here in the forum:
Post in thread '[Firmware] Junsun V1 8667Q - 8G/128G VHD QLED' https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/firmware-junsun-v1-8667q-8g-128g-vhd-qled.4405475/post-87647423
This is for HUs with 8667Q. I'm not sure if it will work for others. First make a backup of your current settings. You need an usb Stick with FAT32. Than download the backup and Import it to you HU:
1.Enter the factory Settings with code 8878.
2. Plug in the empty USB Stick to the 6pin port
3. Go to "MP Mode" and click the right Button (settings to usb)
4. Disconnect the usb Stick an save the Backup file to your PC (it is a *.bin in the root of the usb Stick)
5. Empty the usb Stick and copy the Backup file from the link above to it (you have to unpack it first). So dont copy the *.rar but the *.bin in it.
6. At your HU Enter the factory settings menu with Code 8878 and go to Menu "others"
7. Insert the usb Stick to 6pin Port. Click Import at the right top
8. I think your device will restart. Touch buttons should work again (if the issue was like mine). Unfortunately the Backup is polish. So May you should habe a Look how to change language before you Import it.
Do all of this on your own risk! I'm not sure if it will work or even crash your device.

twinking said:
Hi,
yes I was able to fix it with a backup of the factory settings menu. I got it here in the forum:
Post in thread '[Firmware] Junsun V1 8667Q - 8G/128G VHD QLED' https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/firmware-junsun-v1-8667q-8g-128g-vhd-qled.4405475/post-87647423
This is for HUs with 8667Q. I'm not sure if it will work for others. First make a backup of your current settings. You need an usb Stick with FAT32. Than download the backup and Import it to you HU:
1.Enter the factory Settings with code 8878.
2. Plug in the empty USB Stick to the 6pin port
3. Go to "MP Mode" and click the right Button (settings to usb)
4. Disconnect the usb Stick an save the Backup file to your PC (it is a *.bin in the root of the usb Stick)
5. Empty the usb Stick and copy the Backup file from the link above to it (you have to unpack it first). So dont copy the *.rar but the *.bin in it.
6. At your HU Enter the factory settings menu with Code 8878 and go to Menu "others"
7. Insert the usb Stick to 6pin Port. Click Import at the right top
8. I think your device will restart. Touch buttons should work again (if the issue was like mine). Unfortunately the Backup is polish. So May you should habe a Look how to change language before you Import it.
Do all of this on your own risk! I'm not sure if it will work or even crash your device.
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very good. I have the same problem. Thank you very much. I will try the update.

Exorzist666 said:
very good. I have the same problem. Thank you very much. I will try the update.
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Did it solve the problem for you?