Hello All,
I'm in the UK and I recently bought a boxed second hand S7, the box states SM-G930F (64bit Octo Core Processor).
The IMEI on the box is the same as on the phone.
***The serial number printed on the phone case is different to that displayed in the phone (*#06#).
Booting into Odin Download mode shows:
ODIN MODE: (HIGH SPEED)
PRODUCT NAME: SM-G930A
CURRENT BINARY: Samsung Official
SYSTEM STATUS: Official
FRP LOCK: Off
WARRANTY VOID: 0X0
QUALCOMM SECUREBOOT: ENABLE
RP SWREV: B10(2, 1, 1, 1, 1) K10 S10
SECURE DOWNLOAD: ENABLE
****Note-Toggling 'OEM Unlock' in Developer Options toggles FRP Lock: ON/OFF****
*#1234# shows:
AP: G930FXXU7CRH2
CP: G930FXXU7CRH2
CSC: G930FXXU7CRH2
App Phone Info *Samsung* shows:
PDA Version: G930FXXU7CRH2
CSC Version: G9350ZZH3CRH1
Baseband Version: G930AUCUACSF1
PC Samsung Switch Application auto update reports: "Your device software is up to date: RH2(XAA)"
So it looks like the phone was refurbished or repaired by the factory at some point and they put a Snapdragon board (SM-G930A) instead of Exynos (SM-G930F).
There are lots of contradictions in this phone, G930A running Exynos AP/PDA G930FXXU7CRH2, Knox not tripped, FRP (and bootloader?) can be toggled, Hong Kong/ Chinese CSC
Anybody got any questions or would like me try something to shed more light and perhaps get some insights into the G930A?
BTW, the phone works fine, its running stock 8.0.0 (as you may have gathered from the PDA Version).
YYo
Edit: Sooner or later I am going to update this with stock G930U firmware, just so that everything matches, not sure what this would do to the bootloader though...
Hmmm, quite the dilemma there...
It has to be a G930A/V/T/P/U motherboard based on download screen, but you've figured that out already.
Just curious, does the camera work? The camera module is different for Qualcomm vs. Exynos.
If it does, the seller/refurbisher/repair shop replaced it along w/ the motherboard.
Similarly, does the headphone jack work?
The audio hardware (DAC/Amp) on the Qualcomm vs Exynos daughter boards (which include the USB charge port & capacitive buttons) is different.
I know this because I've replaced my G930A motherboard w/ a G930W8 and ran through those issues...
I think the AP, CP, CSC etc can be changed if rooted using Xposed Framework, but I wasn't aware one was working for Qualcomm version, need more research...
And the biggest question in my mind is how the IMEI matches a supposed G930F phone. Maybe it was also changed w/ Xposed.
Flashing G930U would likely clean up all the G930F stuff, CSC would change to U, true IMEI would be revealed, and please note bootloader is locked and cannot be unlocked on Qualcomm motherboard.
I'd really like to understand this, very curious, do update once you figure it out.
Good luck w/ it.
I have an S7 SM-930U AT&T. I can only boot into download mode any suggestions?
Sent from my ONEPLUS6
It is G930A but IMEI is changed somehow to a G930F which might be dead or some other misfortune i live in pakistan same shady smartphone are available all across country.
Edit: use CPU-Z to confirm processor.
Hi All,
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@mcmorariu - welcome the mystery - thanks for your questions and interest:
The camera works fine - all modes including burst
The headphone jack also works fine - again all functions with an official pair of headphones (volume up/down & call end)
I thought the same about some xposed trickery, but the phone cannot be rooted because it would trip Knox - which everyone says cannot then be repaired.
The only thing that doesn't match on the case is the serial number, mine begins with a 'W' the Samsung store insist it should be an "R" as displayed in *#06# on the phone.
So I asked Samsung to look up the serial on the case - W2019****** - they found nothing.
They then looked up the IMEI on the phone - and it comes back as:
Model: SM-930V
SKU: G930VZDAVZW
Prod. S/N: RF8H8******
Shipping Date: 2016****
Shipping Country: USA
<Samsung.jpg attached>
What!, the phones engraved case shows:
SM-930F SAMSUNG YATELEY, GU46 6GG. UK
DESIGNED & ENGINEERED BY SAMSUNG
IMEI: 353450/**/******/0 S/N: W2019******
<Case.jpg attached>
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@touqeer.tx - welcome to the mystery, I understand that this could be a shady handset, but why would counterfeiters or repairers go to so much trouble? (see pictures of engraved case + box and phone IMEI). The phone seems to be a legitimate Samsung, so it must cost almost the same to counterfeit?
CPU-Z shows:
SOC
Qualcomm Snapdragon 820 2.15 GHz
Cores: 4
big.LITTLE: HMP (2 clusters)
Architecture: Kryo
Revision: r1p2
Process: 14 nm
Clock Speed: 307 MHz - 2.15 GHz
...
GPU Vendor: Qualcomm
GPU Renderer: Adreno (TM) 530 @ 624 Mhz
DEVICE
Samsung Galaxy S7 (SM-930F)
Brand: samsung
Board: MSM8996
Hardware: qcom
SYSTEM
Bootloader: G930AUCUACSF1
Build ID: R16NW.G930FXXU7CRH2
Kernel Version: 3.18.71-15151201 (G930FXXU7CRH2)
}
Edit:
I read the above and its quote complicated - here is the summary:
The phone case has SM-G930F, IMEI and Serial Number beginning with "W" engraved on it (see picture)
Samsung store says the IMEI belongs to SM-G930V, they cannot trace the serial beginning with "W" - they say the serial should begin with an "R"
Ultimately, the IMEI engraved on the case along with SM-G930F, is actually recorded by Samsung as belonging to SM-G930V (see picture).
Thoughts so far:
I thought the phone had been repaired and maybe IMEI changed - but Samsung confirmed the IMEI belongs to SM-G930V - with the same serial number prefix as is on the phone (see pic).
The Firmware has been changed to make the phone look like SM-G930F.
If repaired, what repair shop would go to the effort of re-engraving the case with the new IMEI and re-label the original box? < this seems like an extreme (and expensive) step.
Any questions or tests you would like me to do, please ask. I use this phone everyday and it works as it should.
I would really like to know whats in my pocket and get to the bottom of this... maybe also learn something.
More flavour for the mystery:
The phone is running a SM-G930V board (according to Samsung).
Samsung state that SM-G930V does not support frequency 4G LTE B1 (L2100)
The SM-G930A BL and CSC on my phone seem to have enabled this, as I can pickup 4G LTE B1 (L2100) for Vodafone UK!
This is contrary to information that G930A/V/T/P/U frequencies are limited by hardware, looks like frequencies are controlled by firmware.
My research shows SM-G930U has the most bands out of G930A/V/T/P/U variants - only missing LTE B17 (used by North & Central American carriers)
Firmware now updated to G930UUESACSF1
*#1234# now shows:
AP : G930UUESACSF1
CP : G930UUESACSF1
CSC : G930UUESACSF1
@touqeer.tx , the IMEI did not change, it is still the same as printed on the phone case and was listed before the update using *#06#
My questions following this:
1. Could someone have accidentally flashed S7 Qualcomm Firmware to an S7 Exynos Handset?
2. What would happen if I flashed G930F firmware to this handset? Would it just fail or brick the handset - has anyone tried? We know G930F PDA & CSC were previously installed and working with G930A AP & BL before I updated to G930UUESACSF1.
3. Could someone have repaired the original Exynos handset using a Qualcomm board and changed the IMEI on the board?, does anyone know if this is possible outside Samsung OEM repair without tripping Knox? Problem is Samsungs own records show this IMEI is a G930V - but the case shows IMEI with model G930F
4. Someone went to the following effort?
a. Changed the rear cover of the original G930V and had it engraved for a G930F using the original IMEI
b. Obtained G930F packaging and faked the stickers with the G930V's IMEI
c. Updated the G930V firmware with mix of G930A and G930F to make it look like a G930F
YYo
Unlike S8, S9, S10, S20 or other newer generations, the Exynos S7/Note 7 models are superior to the Snapdragon models in performance and unlike them, they have unlockable bootloaders and the ability to have custom ROMs.
I am looking at an S7 phone that presents with almost identical characteristics to the OP’s phone. I’ll draw from yippeeyo’s posts indicating what’s identical and what’s different:
Identical Characteristics:
The box states SM-G930F (64 bit Octo Core Processor)
The IMEI is the same on the box, phone back and system info are all the same.
The serial number on the phone case begins with “W” while an IMEI lookup reports a number starting with “R”.
Odin Download opening screen produces identical values.
Toggling OEM Unlock gives identical result.
*#1234# gives identical result.
“Phone Info” gives identical result.
The phone, including camera works fine.
CPU-Z gives the identical results.
The phone is running a SM-G930V board. (confirmed by internal inspection)
Different Characteristics:
The phone was purchased from a largish ebay supplier as a near new / unused SM-G930F phone.
The phone back is a 3rd party item with no engraved information. A laminated stick-on label displayed SM-G930F, IMEI and S/N.
You may have thought your phone was a one-off concoction but in view of my experience I venture to say that there is someone out there in the dark phone building world that is working to a recipe and marketing deceptive products.
Me too. Very annoyed, I bought it thinking I was getting an Exynos device that I could install a custom ROM on, ended up with an inferior and non-unlockable Snapdragon device.
I've raised a return request with eBay, which has been accepted by the seller almost immediately - I'm guessing he knows what he's selling is dodgy and is relying on most buyers not to know the difference.
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Short version: I bought an "i9500" turned out to be an i337. About device displays phone as an i9500 with MF3. When using phone info apps. Shows it's part i9500, part i337. How can this be? Also, it idles hot. Anyone else have this problem?
I live in Beijing. One month ago I purchased an "I9500" from the Hong Kong grey market. It was in a sealed box, clearly marked, and the serial and IMEI checked out. I get it home and pop off the back cover to check authenticity and 2 of the imprints state I9500, while the third in the bottom right says GI337. The sticker under the battery also identifies it as an I9500. I boot up the phone and it's got At&t bloatware. I check the about device page and is follows:
Model: Samsung-GT-I9500
Android: 4.2.2
Baseband: I9500ZCUAMF3
Kernal 3.4.0-812098 [email protected]#1
Build: JDQ39.I9500UCUAMF3
when I check the system specs with CPU-Z I'm greeted with a quad core Qualcomm processor yet the model states "Samsung-GT-I9500 (jflteuc)"
display: JDQ39.I9500UCUAMF3
Kernal: 3.4.0-812098 (I337UCUAMF3)
Now, I understand that my phone does indeed have I337 hardware, but how is it that the information stated in "About Device" is incorrect. As well as half the information registered by CPU-Z (display info - JDQ39.I9500UCUAMF3). I'm assuming this isn't a genuine i9500 firmware as that would brick my phone. Whatever ROM I got has been slightly modified? Seeing as my phone is running MF3 my bootloader is locked and I cannot flash it without SS. Secondly the phone tends to overheat (35c) when idle and basic operations like texting or listening to music. When streaming video It reaches 40c. Could this be due to my funky firmware? What is a normal Idle temp for this phone. When and if the bootloader is unlocked could flashing the baseband alleviate any heating issues? My prior phone an S2 had similar problems until I flashed a new modem. Thank you.
I met the same situation here. Really confusing what is the really version of this phone. US AT&T or CN.
Mjcarter24 said:
Short version: I bought an "i9500" turned out to be an i337. About device displays phone as an i9500 with MF3. When using phone info apps. Shows it's part i9500, part i337. How can this be? Also, it idles hot. Anyone else have this problem?
I live in Beijing. One month ago I purchased an "I9500" from the Hong Kong grey market. It was in a sealed box, clearly marked, and the serial and IMEI checked out. I get it home and pop off the back cover to check authenticity and 2 of the imprints state I9500, while the third in the bottom right says GI337. The sticker under the battery also identifies it as an I9500. I boot up the phone and it's got At&t bloatware. I check the about device page and is follows:
Model: Samsung-GT-I9500
Android: 4.2.2
Baseband: I9500ZCUAMF3
Kernal 3.4.0-812098 [email protected]#1
Build: JDQ39.I9500UCUAMF3
when I check the system specs with CPU-Z I'm greeted with a quad core Qualcomm processor yet the model states "Samsung-GT-I9500 (jflteuc)"
display: JDQ39.I9500UCUAMF3
Kernal: 3.4.0-812098 (I337UCUAMF3)
Now, I understand that my phone does indeed have I337 hardware, but how is it that the information stated in "About Device" is incorrect. As well as half the information registered by CPU-Z (display info - JDQ39.I9500UCUAMF3). I'm assuming this isn't a genuine i9500 firmware as that would brick my phone. Whatever ROM I got has been slightly modified? Seeing as my phone is running MF3 my bootloader is locked and I cannot flash it without SS. Secondly the phone tends to overheat (35c) when idle and basic operations like texting or listening to music. When streaming video It reaches 40c. Could this be due to my funky firmware? What is a normal Idle temp for this phone. When and if the bootloader is unlocked could flashing the baseband alleviate any heating issues? My prior phone an S2 had similar problems until I flashed a new modem. Thank you.
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It looks like you're just running AT&T firmware on a S4 International.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using xda app-developers app
I'm reviving this thread considering I have a friend who is facing the same problem.
LZLandingZone said:
It looks like you're just running AT&T firmware on a S4 International.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using xda app-developers app
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Problem with that is, there are two international versions of the S4, i9500 is based on exynos which has a completely different partition table compared to the i9505 which is qualcomm and is nearly identical to all US variants.
What intrigues me is that the bootloader says "SGH-I337" as model. But then, build.prop does not offer an option to edit the baseband version to fake it like you can with build version. How did they edit the baseband version?
The bootloader product model and the fact that MF3 is an at&t/verizon release only inclines me to say it is an at&t version, but I don't know they managed that baseband.
I will tell him to flash the at&t MF3 stock tar, hopefully it does not kill the device.
I have the same Model does anyone have any info about that model cause it has 4.2.2 and i want to upgrade to 4.3
Mjcarter24 said:
Short version: I bought an "i9500" turned out to be an i337. About device displays phone as an i9500 with MF3. When using phone info apps. Shows it's part i9500, part i337. How can this be? Also, it idles hot. Anyone else have this problem?
I live in Beijing. One month ago I purchased an "I9500" from the Hong Kong grey market. It was in a sealed box, clearly marked, and the serial and IMEI checked out. I get it home and pop off the back cover to check authenticity and 2 of the imprints state I9500, while the third in the bottom right says GI337. The sticker under the battery also identifies it as an I9500. I boot up the phone and it's got At&t bloatware. I check the about device page and is follows:
Model: Samsung-GT-I9500
Android: 4.2.2
Baseband: I9500ZCUAMF3
Kernal 3.4.0-812098 [email protected]#1
Build: JDQ39.I9500UCUAMF3
when I check the system specs with CPU-Z I'm greeted with a quad core Qualcomm processor yet the model states "Samsung-GT-I9500 (jflteuc)"
display: JDQ39.I9500UCUAMF3
Kernal: 3.4.0-812098 (I337UCUAMF3)
Now, I understand that my phone does indeed have I337 hardware, but how is it that the information stated in "About Device" is incorrect. As well as half the information registered by CPU-Z (display info - JDQ39.I9500UCUAMF3). I'm assuming this isn't a genuine i9500 firmware as that would brick my phone. Whatever ROM I got has been slightly modified? Seeing as my phone is running MF3 my bootloader is locked and I cannot flash it without SS. Secondly the phone tends to overheat (35c) when idle and basic operations like texting or listening to music. When streaming video It reaches 40c. Could this be due to my funky firmware? What is a normal Idle temp for this phone. When and if the bootloader is unlocked could flashing the baseband alleviate any heating issues? My prior phone an S2 had similar problems until I flashed a new modem. Thank you.
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It is running the i9500 rom with a att mf3 kernel, thats why.....
GT-I9500 (jflteuc)" <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Model
display: JDQ39.I9500UCUAMF3<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Model
Kernal: 3.4.0-812098 (I337UCUAMF3)<<<<<<<<<<<kernel
What is weird here, is that the i9500 never had a MF3 rom. What I see is happening is the build.prop has the wrong values, or something!
I would start over...ODIN!
Good luck
AxAtAx said:
It is running the i9500 rom with a att mf3 kernel, thats why.....
GT-I9500 (jflteuc)" <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Model
display: JDQ39.I9500UCUAMF3<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Model
Kernal: 3.4.0-812098 (I337UCUAMF3)<<<<<<<<<<<kernel
What is weird here, is that the i9500 never had a MF3 rom. What I see is happening is the build.prop has the wrong values, or something!
I would start over...ODIN!
Good luck
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hello
similar problem with S4 I have AT&T
about device: I9500
but when I reboot to recovery mode or download mode says SGH-i337 write protected : enable
what's happening
ps and all this because wifi hotspot not working
HELP ....
I have the same problem but now I 'm like a brick and not as a minimum factory restore .
So I bought a supposed "developer edition" of the Note 3 and other than the words behind the battery which state the phone is a "developer device", I am wondering how you can tell a dev editon from a non-dev edition? Model: SM-N900V, SKU: SMN900VZKE. It had the unlocked lock icon with "Custom" below it on the initial splash screen when you first power it on, but I'm pretty sure that just means it's rooted.
Second question: There are several Note 3 models out there, and all the ROMs I've seen seem to be specific to one particular model. From what I gathered from Samsung's website, the V in N900V just means it's a Verizon phone. Does that mean I should be looking for ROMs for the N900, as those are the ones which should work on my phone?
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Captain_Picard said:
So I bought a supposed "developer edition" of the Note 3 and other than the words behind the battery which state the phone is a "developer device", I am wondering how you can tell a dev editon from a non-dev edition? Model: SM-N900V, SKU: SMN900VZKE. It had the unlocked lock icon with "Custom" below it on the initial splash screen when you first power it on, but I'm pretty sure that just means it's rooted.
Second question: There are several Note 3 models out there, and all the ROMs I've seen seem to be specific to one particular model. From what I gathered from Samsung's website, the V in N900V just means it's a Verizon phone. Does that mean I should be looking for ROMs for the N900, as those are the ones which should work on my phone?
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http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-N900VZKEVZW
CPU: 2.3GHz QuadCore
So u should looking for N9005 ROMs.
and if u bought phone and it was unlock out of the box it might means it s dev unit
:good:
Captain_Picard said:
So I bought a supposed "developer edition" of the Note 3 and other than the words behind the battery which state the phone is a "developer device", I am wondering how you can tell a dev editon from a non-dev edition? Model: SM-N900V, SKU: SMN900VZKE. It had the unlocked lock icon with "Custom" below it on the initial splash screen when you first power it on, but I'm pretty sure that just means it's rooted.
Second question: There are several Note 3 models out there, and all the ROMs I've seen seem to be specific to one particular model. From what I gathered from Samsung's website, the V in N900V just means it's a Verizon phone. Does that mean I should be looking for ROMs for the N900, as those are the ones which should work on my phone?
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Hi there, you are owning a very limited device.
Could you please help me by installing my app Phone INFO ★Samsung★ and post some screenshots from the app?
And then enter the Menu, select [Note 3] Fake Detector and see what does it say?
Your help would be appreciated. Thank you.
P.S: Download link in my signature.
@vndnguyen
Thank you for your reply! According to the Fake Detector, it's is genuine (Diag Code = 0000)
As requested (sort of) here's what was listed:
Manufacture / Brand: samsung/Verizon
Phone Model: SM-N900V
Device Type: hltevzw
Product Type: hltevzw
Contry of Origin: (blank)
Manufacturing Date: 2013.09.30
Knox Warranty Void: 0x1
Product Code: Not Active
Sales Code: VZW
CSC Country: USA
CSC Country ISO: US
(Skipping serial #)
Bootloader Version: N900VVRUBMJE
PDA Version: N900VOYUBMJ3 / N900VVRUBMJ3
CSC Version: N900VVZWMI3
Changelist: 1671014
Build Number: JSS15J.N900VOYUBMJ3 (N900VOYUBMJ3)
Build Fingerprint: Verizon/hltevzw:4.3/JSS15J/N900VOYUBMJ3:user/release-keys
Build Description: hltevzw-user 4.3 JSS15J N900VOYUBMJ3 release-keys
Build Date: Tue Oct 8 17;46;02 KST 2013
Android Version: 4.3
Internal Storage: 32GB
Hardware/Board: qcom / MSM8974
Playform/Chip: MSM8974
Modem Board: MSM8974
Hardware Revision: N900V.07
Mobile Operator Name: Verizon Wireless
Mobile Network Code: 311480
x102x96x said:
CPU: 2.3GHz QuadCore
So u should looking for N9005 ROMs.
and if u bought phone and it was unlock out of the box it might means it s dev unit
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Well, I didn't buy it directly from Samsung, hence why I'm a little... worried.
Captain_Picard said:
@vndnguyen
Thank you for your reply! According to the Fake Detector, it's is genuine (Diag Code = 0000)
As requested (sort of) here's what was listed:
Manufacture / Brand: samsung/Verizon
Phone Model: SM-N900V
...
...
Mobile Operator Name: Verizon Wireless
Mobile Network Code: 311480
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Thanks so much for your help.
Your device has 2 different PDA versions?
And how about 'Baseband Version'?
vndnguyen said:
Thanks so much for your help.
Your device has 2 different PDA versions?
And how about 'Baseband Version'?
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Yeah, that's what is listed under PDA Version.
Baseband version says N900VVRUBMJE
Thanks for the info
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk
You might want to remove the IEMI number from your post - never wise to make it public.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2524572 probably the baseband was updated with the zip file. There is a Odin restore file for dev edition. That would probably update pda to mje
It's real. All they have is developer edition under battery nothing else. Ask me how I know. I have one...
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I've just purchased s7 edge mobile it's not a brand new one and working perfect without any issues. But I'm confused about its version.
*In about phone menu the model number is SM-G935F
*The baseband is G935FXXU1BPIA
*On the back of the phone it' written SM-G935F
*While in download mode it's SM-G935V
*In samsung phone info app the Manufacturer/Brand : Samsung/Verizon and the phone model is SM-G935F and firmwares CSC code is VZW and CSC country is US and bootloader version and baseband are G935VVRU4API3 which is different from what is written under about phone menu.
* Update software option under about phone is absent.
*The hardware/board : qcom/msm8996 [64-bit]
*GPU : Qualcomm Adrenaline 530
*By checking IMEI it's correct and belongs to s7 edge.
Now I cannot update it through the OTA and I don't know what is the correct firmware to flash and can I use engineering kernel to root it.
It's clear the phone is SM-G935V depending on the CPU and download mode ..please help I afraid to flash wrong firmware and brick it.
ashraftoma99 said:
I've just purchased s7 edge mobile it's not a brand new one and working perfect without any issues. But I'm confused about its version.
*In about phone menu the model number is SM-G935F
*The baseband is G935FXXU1BPIA
*On the back of the phone it' written SM-G935F
*While in download mode it's SM-G935V
*In samsung phone info app the Manufacturer/Brand : Samsung/Verizon and the phone model is SM-G935F and firmwares CSC code is VZW and CSC country is US and bootloader version and baseband are G935VVRU4API3 which is different from what is written under about phone menu.
* Update software option under about phone is absent.
*The hardware/board : qcom/msm8996 [64-bit]
*GPU : Qualcomm Adrenaline 530
*By checking IMEI it's correct and belongs to s7 edge.
Now I cannot update it through the OTA and I don't know what is the correct firmware to flash and can I use engineering kernel to root it.
It's clear the phone is SM-G935V depending on the CPU and download mode ..please help I afraid to flash wrong firmware and brick it.
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What a mess... are you sure its not a fake s7e..?
i recommend not flashing anything on it D: who knows what they did to it for it to be falsely showing a g935F when its snapdragon
EasyAndroidPro said:
What a mess... are you sure its not a fake s7e..?
i recommend not flashing anything on it D: who knows what they did to it for it to be falsely showing a g935F when its snapdragon
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I'm pretty sure it's not fake every hardware is working perfect the camera is awesome, fingerprint sensor is perfect and cannot be deceived , screen is perfect, heart rate monitor and spo2 sensor is working, I tested it in water and it's water resistant even in antutu benchmark it's recognized as SM-G935F and achieved high score 137197
It's a fake clone for sure.
ashraftoma99 said:
I'm pretty sure it's not fake every hardware is working perfect the camera is awesome, fingerprint sensor is perfect and cannot be deceived , screen is perfect, heart rate monitor and spo2 sensor is working, I tested it in water and it's water resistant even in antutu benchmark it's recognized as SM-G935F and achieved high score 137197
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It does not make sense to me at all... All of these things can be there in the clone too..(hardware can be faked in apps like antutu etc) ill have to take your word for it about the quality of the camera.. my suggestion would be to go to your local phone shop and compare it carefully with a display model..
have you tried connecting it to Smart Switch? it should get the right firmware for you
has knox been tripped?
does it have working knox apps installed like samsung pay etc?
It's not fake, Fake one has bad camera and fingerprint sensor can be bypassed by any not registered finger and has different CPU not snapdragon.
It is connected to Odin and identified as samsung, Fake one cannot be connected to Odin.
Screen quality is identical to the one in local store.
After testing It's water resistant, Fake one is not water resistant.
AIDA64 says it has LPDDR4 ram like original one.
Rear camera sensor is SLSI_S5K2L1SX which is samsung isocell sensor.
Every hardware indicates it's original s7 edge but how did they manage to change the firmware to G935F.
Finally it has a working samsung pay.
ashraftoma99 said:
Every hardware indicates it's original s7 edge but how did they manage to change the firmware to G935F.
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Exactly lol
did you try smartswitch? i think you will get your answer from there.
Also the baseband under your about phone section of your phone is Taiwan (BRI) G935FXXU1BPIA for a G935FD i think
EasyAndroidPro said:
Exactly lol
did you try smartswitch? i think you will get your answer from there.
Also the baseband under your about phone section of your phone is Taiwan (BRI) G935FXXU1BPIA for a G935FD i think :confsued:
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Thanks for reply. I'll try smart switch when I go back to home and will inform you.
It just seems ridiculous to me that the back of your phone states its a g935F when its a g935V and being as its still water resistant then i doubt the back glass would of been replaced also
Good luck friend :good:
Hmmmm wow idk how that happened remember the days when we could pull out the battery and know for sure haha bt I would say download the Samsung phone info app in the play store and check the the hardware if it's snapdragon(qualcomm) its a 935v bt if it says it's exynos it's a 935F that way you will know what is safe to use
gurnsey101 said:
Hmmmm wow idk how that happened remember the days when we could pull out the battery and know for sure haha bt I would say download the Samsung phone info app in the play store and check the the hardware if it's snapdragon(qualcomm) its a 935v bt if it says it's exynos it's a 935F that way you will know what is safe to use
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This is what Samsung phone info app says:
*Hardware/Board : qcom/msm8996 [64-bit]
*GPU: Qualcomm Adreno 530
*Total Ram: 3.34 GB
After all I can say it's an original Samsung phone SM-G935V version depending on model number in both recovery and download modes and hardware profile in Samsung phone info app and AIDA 64 app and presence of Samsung pay and other Samsung own apps like s voice ,Samsung health, Galaxy apps, Samsung Gear, recognized in Odin and Knox app. Also camera quality, Fingerprint hardware and screen quality are excellent.
Knox is not tripped and the phone is not rooted.
BUT someone did his best to change it to G935F by changing the back cover to the one of G935F and he was clever enough to keep water resistance property but I cannot understand how did he manage to change the data under about phone menu to deceive people it's G935F version may be because this is the desired version.
This is CPU-Z validation report
One more thing the firmware is deployed and there are no any verizon apps nor verizon splash screen.
Is it possible to be flashed with G935F firmware then flashed with G935V bootloader and baseband after that because that information in AIDA64 is :
Baseband: G935VVRU4API3
Boatloader: G935VVRU4API3
Build ID: MMB29M.G935FXXU1BPIA
ashraftoma99 said:
One more thing the firmware is deployed and there are no any verizon apps nor verizon splash screen.
Is it possible to be flashed with G935F firmware then flashed with G935V bootloader and baseband after that because that information in AIDA64 is :
Baseband: G935VVRU4API3
Boatloader: G935VVRU4API3
Build ID: MMB29M.G935FXXU1BPIA
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Allegedly there are if you have a look on YouTube theirs a few videos about converting a verizon phone into the g935F with a modded firmware... however they all ask you to pay for there work and i don't believe them lol.
Maybe its a refurbished model that Samsung themselves have fixed and sold on?
Tbh it would not surprise me as they have recently been accepting trade-ins for the new s8..
but to fake it being a g935f seems totally reckless to me.
if the back glass has been replaced i highly recommend never water testing it again lol
(do all g935V say g935f on the back?) im not sure
as you said all signs point to it being a g935V
Edit: also if you did flash F firmware with V bootloader you would still have the verizon boot screen (even if it was possible)
It's definitely a 935v since its has Qualcomm hardware if you bought it refurbished then whoever did it messed up or something you should be okay to flash any Verizon or U firmware without issues
EasyAndroidPro said:
Allegedly there are if you have a look on YouTube theirs a few videos about converting a verizon phone into the g935F with a modded firmware... however they all ask you to pay for there work and i don't believe them lol.
Maybe its a refurbished model that Samsung themselves have fixed and sold on?
Tbh it would not surprise me as they have recently been accepting trade-ins for the new s8..
but to fake it being a g935f seems totally reckless to me.
if the back glass has been replaced i highly recommend never water testing it again lol
(do all g935V say g935f on the back?) im not sure
as you said all signs point to it being a g935V
Edit: also if you did flash F firmware with V bootloader you would still have the verizon boot screen (even if it was possible)
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I have no courage to flash or root it and the safest solution is using it as it is and will replace it for dual sim version G935FD.
I cannot return it back because it was purchased from Kuwait and I live in Egypt.
use smart switch and emergency software repair option, and see what will be the initialized version ... you dont need phone for this, just enter info in smart switch
NeoDJW said:
use smart switch and emergency software repair option, and see what will be the initialized version ... you dont need phone for this, just enter info in smart switch
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I'll give it a try
Same problem as you bud, my BL is G935VVRU4API3 while my PDA and CSC are G935FXXUBPL2 and my BB is G935VVRU4API3 and my csc code is TGY. Been wanting to flash it to nougat but the manual option for updating is also missing. From what I have read is that i have a G935V but with an G935F overlay. Ive come to accept that im never getting any updates cuz i purchased this phone second hand. Also in phone info it says "product code not active" and my S/N is 000etc. But all functions work fine except for privacy mode yet my knox hasnt been tripped. If anyone has any advice on what type of firmware is safe to flash on to it, it will be much appreciated.
Hello everyone
I had Note 4 with Exynos chipset (N910C) with no brand (European version).
After some issues with LTE connections and SIM card recognition I have bought used N910F motherboard and installed in my device.
First boot shows that motherboard is from Italy device with Wind operator applications installed.
Next I flashed device but forgot to record IMEI, modem version and bootloader version.
I have restored device using Samsung Kies and during restore process Kies reported device as:
PDA: QG3
CSC: QG1
PHONE: QA1
After restore system setting shows:
Model: N910F
Modem: N910FXXS1DQA1
Version number: MMB29M.N910FXXU1DQG3
1) Now I have a problem: should I use TRLTE roms or TRLTEXX?
When I put "Note 4" in TWRP website search it suggest "Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Qualcomm (trlte)" - so it is TRLTE device?
On the other hand most of N910F images are tagged as TRLTEXX.
2) Can I mix TRLTE TWRP with TRLTEXX ROM image (and vice versa) or they should always match?
3) I have tested few roms and faced problems with not working camera. I know that latest official Android version for Note 4 was Android 6.1
and most roms (RR, Lineage) are based on Android 7.1 If this is the reason of problems? Because official Samsung kernel with working camera
supports Android up to version 6.1 and customs kernel used in 7.1 have some camera issues?
4) What is the relation between kernel version and Android versions? Its like Android 6.1 requires kernel 3.x.x and Android 7.1 requires for example versions never than 4.x.x etc?
I will be thankful for answers to my questions. I know that they may be naive for experienced users but I try to good understand the process,
rather than blind flash roms until device will work.
Your device is basically n910f now. You should use twrp and roms for n910f
Your camera is nonfunctional because Exynos based units use Samsung's ISOCELL modules, and Snapdragon devices use Sony's image sensors. Your network connectivity should be gone as well for that reason.
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Your device is basically n910f now. You should use twrp and roms for n910f
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Ok, but still, if it is TRLTE or TRLTEXX because both tags comes with N910F roms.
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Your camera is nonfunctional because Exynos based units use Samsung's ISOCELL modules, and Snapdragon devices use Sony's image sensors. Your network connectivity should be gone as well for that reason.
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By network connectivity You mean that antena design is also different and will cause signal loss?
I forgot to mention that I have also switched front and back camera to used ones from N910F.
From original N910C only body, USB port and scrren left.
elKoniu said:
By network connectivity You mean that antena design is also different and will cause signal loss?
I forgot to mention that I have also switched front and back camera to used ones from N910F.
From original N910C only body, USB port and scrren left.
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Precisely. If you replaced those too, you should have no issues
Questions 1 and 2: Both use Snapdragon chips. Trltexx is the unlocked international N910F, while the other one is usually sold by carriers (T-mobile, AT&T and the likes). You should be able to mix 'em with no issues.
3: To get devices working on non-OEM firmwares without direct support from official drivers, developers write bundles of code called SHIMs. The camera is one such device, and because in most cases the driver is based on the manufacturer's own proprietary code, it's usually with blood and tears that our dear devs are able to get everything working even as it is. That's why you may face almost-working equipment with AOSP ROMs. You can read more about SHIMs here.
4: "If it ain't broken, don't fix it" applies here. There's no direct correlation between Android versions and which kernel versions they use, and manufacturers are sometimes slow to move to a higher version number because of how little meaningful improvements it brings. Recently, Google has mandated that all devices shipping with a SoC manufactured in 2017 or later must come with kernel version 4.4
Hope this clears things up. Anyone is welcome to correct if anything I've said is in the slightest incorrect. :angel:
Cheers,
-odd
I have no idea in this situation. Anyone can help me?
I bought a second-hand Samsung galaxy note 4. The seller told me that is n910f and also shown in the Setting, About device
But the problem is I can't update from lollipop android 5.1.1 to android 6.0.1 marshmallow officially
The seller do not accept return goods so that I can't get the money back.
As I know the process of N910F should be Qualcomm Snapdragon 805
But I use cpu-z app to check the phone which is not n910f , the processor of that phone is Exynos Octa 5433 , the bootloader is N910SKSU2COL1 and the label behind the phone after remove the battery is N910A ?
How can I know the original variant of this phone, plz help
which stock rom,bootloader and modem I should flash ?
Should I follow the label behind the phone?
Siuhongm said:
I have no idea in this situation. Anyone can help me?
I bought a second-hand Samsung galaxy note 4. The seller told me that is n910f and also shown in the Setting, About device
But the problem is I can't update from lollipop android 5.1.1 to android 6.0.1 marshmallow officially
The seller do not accept return goods so that I can't get the money back.
As I know the process of N910F should be Qualcomm Snapdragon 805
But I use cpu-z app to check the phone which is not n910f , the processor of that phone is Exynos Octa 5433 , the bootloader is N910SKSU2COL1 and the label behind the phone after remove the battery is N910A ?
How can I know the original variant of this phone, plz help
which stock rom,bootloader and modem I should flash ?
Should I follow the label behind the phone?
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I highly doubt it's an AT&T model N910A with fake N910F software.
Most sellers they modify the software because N910F has more demand in market then usa models because N910F has more 4g/LTE bands and fully unlocked variant.
You can still update to marshmallow with N910A firmware but there are some disadvantages such as
1 No multi languages
2 Lot of At&t apps bloatware
3 Apn settings for sim card data you have to set manually.
4.no data toggle in quick toggles.
5.no software updates unless you have AT&T sim card.
This is the 6.0.1 marshmallow firmware link for N910A
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=962187416754459333
If you want to know the correct model just turn off the phone and go to odin download mode.
Press 3 button all together for 5 seconds ( volume down button+home buttun+power button) until it shows warning screen then press volume up .
In download mode you will see the motherboard original model SM-N910 on top left corner.
Same as in picture below.
Siuhongm said:
I have no idea in this situation. Anyone can help me?
I bought a second-hand Samsung galaxy note 4. The seller told me that is n910f and also shown in the Setting, About device
But the problem is I can't update from lollipop android 5.1.1 to android 6.0.1 marshmallow officially
The seller do not accept return goods so that I can't get the money back.
As I know the process of N910F should be Qualcomm Snapdragon 805
But I use cpu-z app to check the phone which is not n910f , the processor of that phone is Exynos Octa 5433 , the bootloader is N910SKSU2COL1 and the label behind the phone after remove the battery is N910A ?
How can I know the original variant of this phone, plz help
which stock rom,bootloader and modem I should flash ?
Should I follow the label behind the phone?
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Okay, I solved the problem by entering to the Download mode by pressing power button + volume down + home button then press up
So that I saw the models numbers in odin