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[How-To] Block OTA Updates Without Root (or a router) on Fire OS 5

With the new Fire OS 5 update we can use the Debloater tool to disable APKs/services responsible for automatic updating. This was not previously possibly due to Fire OS 3 being built on Android 4.2.2 and the Debloater process needing Android 4.4.x+. No more worrying if your router is blocking everything properly. And of course... no root needed!
Disable Update w/o Root Steps:
1. Enable USB Debugging on your Fire TV (or TV Stick) (how-to here)
2. Setup adbFire on your computer and establish a connection to your Fire TV[Stick] (how-to here)
3. Setup Debloater tool (how-to here)
4A. In the Debloater tool, check off the APK below then hit the "Apply" button:
DeviceSoftwareOTA.apk (com.amazon.device.software.ota)
4B. Instead of using Debloater Tool you can just send the following ADB command:
Code:
adb shell pm hide com.amazon.device.software.ota
Unlike the pm disable command, hide disables the apk without root.
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After hiding the apk your Amazon Fire TV or Fire TV Stick will no longer get OTA updates.
If you go into Settings > System > About you can no longer check for updates... yay.
To undo the block you can simply "unhide" each apk using the Debloater tool or run:
Code:
adb shell pm unhide com.amazon.device.software.ota
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Be careful if you try to disable other system apps. If you disable something important and the device won't start up.. you'll have to perform a factory reset to fix the issue (not sure if possible with stick?). Have more apks to disable to reduce unneeded system processes? please share.
TL;DR
You gotta update to Fire OS 5.x in order to block updates without root (or router).
I know this defeats the purpose of blocking updates since you want to stay on old fw/sw... but science!
This may not work on all future Fire OS 5.x+ builds. Tested on FireTV Stick with Early Developer 5.0.3 build.

Thank you for this info.

Can anybody confirm this is working ? I have not received my AFTV2 yet.

Does this survive reboot?

Received my Firetv 2 and I can confirm it works, it even survives a reboot. To me this is the best method of blocking the Amazon updates.
Thanks mister LakituLives for writing this up

Does this work on the Firetv 1? Or only on the 4K fire TV. When I try to run debloater on the firetv 1 it keep saying unsupported. Thanks.

I assume you´re not running Fire OS 5 on the aTV 1. With Fire OS 3 this can´t be done this way.

slybas said:
Received my Firetv 2 and I can confirm it works, it even survives a reboot. To me this is the best method of blocking the Amazon updates.
Thanks mister LakituLives for writing this up
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Can you run "pm list packages -d" from adb shell and paste the output? Does it do what @LakituLives describes which is give an error or otherwise not function as normal when you check for updates on the AFTV2?

I have done this and when i check for updates i get an error, don't know if it is working correctly.

zeroepoch said:
Can you run "pm list packages -d" from adb shell and paste the output? Does it do what @LakituLives describes which is give an error or otherwise not function as normal when you check for updates on the AFTV2?
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Glad to help. The pm list packages -d (disabled packages) is empty because debloater hides the packages and not disables them.
Code:
[email protected]:/ $ pm list packages -d
pm list packages -d
[email protected]:/ $
There is nothing to see.
Code:
1|[email protected]:/ $ pm list packages | grep dcp
pm list packages | grep dcp
1|[email protected]:/ $ pm list packages | grep pico
pm list packages | grep pico
package:com.svox.pico
[email protected]:/ $
My version is now 5.0.3.1 because I unhid the packages and updated the machine, now the packages are hidden again and System --> About --> "installed Date" and "Last Checked" are both "Checking now......" and if I select Check for System Update I get an Update error. Perfect !

slybas said:
My version is now 5.0.3.1 because I unhide the packages and updated the machine, now the packages are hidden again and System --> About --> "installed Date" and "Last Checked" are both "Checking now......" and if I select Check for System Update I get an Update error. Perfect !
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I get the same error now as well after running (as root):
Code:
pm disable com.amazon.device.software.ota
No idea if this actually blocks updates or just the checking. I guess we'll have to wait until the next update.

LakituLives said:
With the new Fire OS 5 update we can use the Debloater tool to disable APKs/services responsible for automatic updating. This was not previously possibly due to Fire OS 3 being built on Android 4.2.2 and the Debloater process needing Android 4.4.x+. No more worrying if your router is blocking everything properly. And of course... no root needed!
After hitting apply the Debloater tool should take a moment then show all apks "hidden" and your Amazon Fire TV or Fire TV Stick will no longer get OTA updates.
If you go into Settings > System > About you can no longer check for updates... yay.
You can simply "unhide" each apk using the Debloater tool if you should ever want to reverse this process.
Be careful if you try to disable other system apps. If you disable something important and the device won't start up.. you'll have to perform a factory reset to fix the issue (not sure if possible with stick?). Have more apks to disable to reduce unneeded system processes? please share.
TL;DR
You gotta update to block updates (without router or root).
I know this defeats the purpose of blocking updates since you want to stay on old fw/sw... but science!
And yes, Fire OS 5 makes the possibility of root even harder now that selinux is enabled.
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Hi my firestick is running version 54.1.2.3_user_123067020 and it says it is not rooted and does not support block mode I have the latest version of deblocker and adbfire . windows 10

mifran said:
Hi my firestick is running version 54.1.2.3_user_123067020 and it says it is not rooted and does not support block mode I have the latest version of deblocker and adbfire . windows 10
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You haven't updated to FireOS 5 which is required to use this.

Hmm, so fire tv stick didn't seem to get any root love other than soldering and man that stick is tiny for soldering. I'm debating if I want to let an update to latest then block. Anyone have any thoughts on if fire TV stick will ever get a software root?

Ludacrisvp said:
You haven't updated to FireOS 5 which is required to use this.
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OK thanks I realised this now would updating to 5 mean re-installing kodi and firestarter and losing all the addons

Just chucked and there is no update for the UK version I have the latest installed
Sent from my Blade S6 using Tapatalk

mifran said:
OK thanks I realised this now would updating to 5 mean re-installing kodi and firestarter and losing all the addons
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I didn't lose anything in my update from FireOS 3. If you revert from 5 to 3 then you have to lose everything.
mifran said:
Just chucked and there is no update for the UK version I have the latest installed
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You have to opt-in for FireOS 5 from the Amazon developer account (free).

Thanks for the info will check it out
Sent from my Blade S6 using Tapatalk

I don't know if adbFire is connected, last night I was able to install FireStarter. This morning, I don't know if adbFire is connecting and Debloater isn't showing anything, or do I need to use USB to USB to do this?

Does this work on the Fire Stick? Also, what's the benefit of this method? I can't think of a reason to do this, unless you had a Fire TV on the old OS and hadn't a chance to root it yet?

Disable OTA on the 2nd Gen Fire TV stick :

Update: It's been reported that the method works on FireOS up to and including 5.2.6.0, but does not work on 5.2.6.1
To catch a break, and avoid force fed OTA updates, run these commands from your ADB:
Code:
adb.exe uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota
adb.exe uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota.override
This will disable the OTA apps till the next factory reset. In case there is ever root, your system will be old enough to be rootable.
Once you do this, and go check for system updates, it'll generate a message "System update failed".
More details can be found in this thread.

this was patched on the tablets and if not already will likely be patched on the sticks soon as well.

krsmit0 said:
this was patched on the tablets and if not already will likely be patched on the sticks soon as well.
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Sure, nothing lasts forever ... But even more reason to do this NOW !!!
At the moment, I have this version : Fire OS 5.2.4.1, ro.build.date=Fri Jun 9 23:01:51 UTC 2017, so not patched yet.

@bibikalka is there a way to reinstall an uninstalled APK for user 0 ?

rainman74 said:
@bibikalka is there a way to reinstall an uninstalled APK for user 0 ?
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I don't know an easy one
But you can always do a factory reset! These operations don't actually delete anything, just flag it as unusable.

This should allow debloating the Fire TV sticks. Does anyone have a list with apps that you can safely remove? Maybe even replacing the stock launcher is possible. Although on the Fire HD 10 5th generation removing the stock launcher breaks the home button detection.

MWin123 said:
This should allow debloating the Fire TV sticks. Does anyone have a list with apps that you can safely remove? Maybe even replacing the stock launcher is possible. Although on the Fire HD 10 5th generation removing the stock launcher breaks the home button detection.
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Yes, you can completely replace Fire Stick Launcher without root! But first ensure, that all settings are made, because you can not access certain settings anymore (again only after a factory reset).
And you must install another launcher first, e.g. AppStarter (https://github.com/sphinx02/AppStarter/releases)
1. Uninstall:
adb uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota
adb uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota.override
adb uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.tv.nimh
adb uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.tv.launcher
2. Access settings then via ADB without com.amazon.tv.launcher (Fire Stick "tank" on 5.2.4.1):
Controller:
Code:
adb shell am start -n com.amazon.tv.settings/.tv.controllers_bluetooth_devices.ControllersAndBluetoothActivity
App-Menu:
Code:
adb shell am start -n com.amazon.tv.settings/.tv.applications.ApplicationsActivity
Network:
Code:
adb shell am start -n com.amazon.tv.settings/.tv.network.NetworkActivity
Factory Reset:
Code:
adb shell am start -n com.amazon.tv.settings/.tv.FactoryResetActivity

rainman74 said:
But first ensure, that all settings are made, because you can not access certain settings anymore (again only after a factory reset).
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Thanks! Do you know what settings are affected?
I can recommend Activity Launcher to open settings, it also allows you to open some hidden settings. See NO ROOT: Use 'Activity Launcher' to remove accounts, grant/revoke usage access.

MWin123 said:
Thanks! Do you know what settings are affected?
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yes, because of we can't grant com.amazon.tv.permission.LAUNCHER_SETTINGS to com.amazon.tv.settings (adb -d shell pm grant com.amazon.tv.settings com.amazon.tv.permission.LAUNCHER_SETTINGS), you can't access the following settings anymore:
Account (but you'll in no way ever change your Amazon Account)
Display & Sound (so set each setting there to "automatic" before you uninstall com.amazon.tv.launcher)
Info/About (you'll not need that anyway)
Childlock (no need for that anyway, because you will not have Amazon Launcher)
Debug/ADB (so set ADB/USB to "yes" before you uninstall com.amazon.tv.launcher and you'll be fine)
MWin123 said:
I can recommend Activity Launcher to open settings, it also allows you to open some hidden settings. See NO ROOT: Use 'Activity Launcher' to remove accounts, grant/revoke usage access.
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Thanks, I'll try that...

After installing modified "Android TV Settings" (https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4255667&d=1503965469) with regular "adb install" you can access the following settings again if amazon.tv.launcher is disabled or uninstalled (non-root):
Sound (system sounds only)
Code:
com.android.tv.settings.device.sound.SoundActivity
Info/About
Code:
com.android.tv.settings.about.AboutActivity
Debug/ADB
Code:
com.android.tv.settings.system.DeveloperOptionsActivity
CEC/HDMI Control
Code:
com.android.tv.settings.system.InputsActivity
Bluetooth/Pairing
Code:
com.android.tv.settings.accessories.AddAccessoryActivity
Date/Time
Code:
com.android.tv.settings.system.DateTimeActivity
Device Name
Code:
com.android.tv.settings.name.DeviceNameSettingsActivity
Language
Code:
com.android.tv.settings.system.LanguageActivity

Do the ADB commands in post 1 work on the 2nd gen Amazon Fire TV please? (not the stick).
I have just acquired one which is non rooted and loaded with software v5.2.4.2 which I understand that I am unable to root.
Any advice greatly appreciated.

meohmy said:
Do the ADB commands in post 1 work on the 2nd gen Amazon Fire TV please? (not the stick).
I have just acquired one which is non rooted and loaded with software v5.2.4.2 which I understand that I am unable to root.
Any advice greatly appreciated.
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Yes they do, I just tried it on mine and it worked flawlessly. Good luck!

Thanks for the prompt reply, I will have a go as soon as the wife goes out.

apologiez for hijacking your thread, these infors are very appreciated.
i 'accidently' uninstalled "com.amazon.tv.settings", any idea how i can force a factory reset? Installing the modfied "Android TV Settings" didnt help.

TV33 said:
apologiez for hijacking your thread, these infors are very appreciated.
i 'accidently' uninstalled "com.amazon.tv.settings", any idea how i can force a factory reset? Installing the modfied "Android TV Settings" didnt help.
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this is probably not possible anymore then!
But you can try this method: http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-unbrick-by-entering-recovery-mode-and-factory-reset-the-amazon-fire-tv/

Worked first time so thanks for all the info, now to get a vpn so I can start using it.

Hi, I need help
I have a Fire TV Stick2 (Tank), after trying Post #7 I have no choice to change the WIFI account.
Post #10 doesn't work.
Any Idea? Post #15 seems not possible for "tank"
Any advice greatly appreciated.

remoter3406 said:
Hi, I need help
I have a Fire TV Stick2 (Tank), after trying Post #7 I have no choice to change the WIFI account.
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You will have access to wifi on Fire TV Stick2 ("tank") with this cmd as stated in post #7:
Code:
adb shell am start -n com.amazon.tv.settings/.tv.network.NetworkActivity
Post #10 doesn't work.
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Did yo install the modified "Android TV Settings" first. The command definitely works then!
Any Idea? Post #15 seems not possible for "tank"
Any advice greatly appreciated.
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It's possible with an Micro USB OTA adapter: https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00N2LSLKA/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

You will have access to wifi on Fire TV Stick2 ("tank") with this cmd as stated in post #7:
Code:
adb shell am start -n com.amazon.tv.settings/.tv.network.NetworkActivity
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First, sorry for my english. I mean WIFI is working with my WIFI repeater, but I want change it to my main WIFI router. How?
Did yo install the modified "Android TV Settings" first. The command definitely works then!
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Yes, I installed the "apk" and it apears on TV, but no reaction. Is a adb command needed for activating?
It's possible with an Micro USB OTA adapter:
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OK, this is the last try if I coudn't change the WIFI
Many Thanks for your quick response

remoter3406 said:
First, sorry for my english. I mean WIFI is working with my WIFI repeater, but I want change it to my main WIFI router. How?
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I will show you a screenshot of that later this evening...
Yes, I installed the "apk" and it apears on TV, but no reaction. Is a adb command needed for activating?
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You can't click the icon, you must access the settings of it via adb or the app "Activity Lauchner" mentioned in this thread:
Code:
adb shell am start -n com.android.tv.settings.about.AboutActivity
adb shell am start -n com.android.tv.settings.accessories.AddAccessoryActivity
adb shell am start -n com.android.tv.settings.device.sound.SoundActivity
adb shell am start -n com.android.tv.settings.name.DeviceNameSettingsActivity
adb shell am start -n com.android.tv.settings.system.DateTimeActivity
adb shell am start -n com.android.tv.settings.system.DeveloperOptionsActivity
adb shell am start -n com.android.tv.settings.system.InputsActivity
adb shell am start -n com.android.tv.settings.system.LanguageActivity

Fire 10 2017 on Fire OS 5.6 - uninstall amazon apps

I just got my fire 10 couple of days ago and i was successfully able to adb uninstall some of the amazon apps.
but the next morning, the os updated 5.6 and after a couple of successful adb uninstall, it suddenly gave me an error: "Failure [DELETE_FAILED_INTERNAL_ERROR]"
it seems like some of the app can be uninstalled but most cant be.
is anyone able to do this on os 5.6?
and are there any other ways to disable some of the apps?

zerotg90 said:
I just got my fire 10 couple of days ago and i was successfully able to adb uninstall some of the amazon apps.
but the next morning, the os updated 5.6 and after a couple of successful adb uninstall, it suddenly gave me an error: "Failure [DELETE_FAILED_INTERNAL_ERROR]"
it seems like some of the app can be uninstalled but most cant be.
is anyone able to do this on os 5.6?
and are there any other ways to disable some of the apps?
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doesn't work on 5.6, forget it for now... tried everything I could and read a lot, always get the same error you got... patience

I did the same, device shipped with 5.4.1.0, I uninstalled a bunch of system apps via adb (apparently not the correct ota app), came home from work and saw that it had updated to 5.6.0.0 and attempted to uninstall more apps (the correct ota one) and received the same error. I had successfully installed the Play Store and Nova Launcher prior but I'm worried about future updates breaking the nice set up I currently have. Here's hoping someone can get us root access. If not, I'm content with the tablet in it's current state. Great for $100.

woundedworld said:
I did the same, device shipped with 5.4.1.0, I uninstalled a bunch of system apps via adb (apparently not the correct ota app), came home from work and saw that it had updated to 5.6.0.0 and attempted to uninstall more apps (the correct ota one) and received the same error. I had successfully installed the Play Store and Nova Launcher prior but I'm worried about future updates breaking the nice set up I currently have. Here's hoping someone can get us root access. If not, I'm content with the tablet in it's current state. Great for $100.
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which OTA did you uninstall if you happen to remember? mine is running the same version and i want to prevent updates.

Uninstall OTA
phanguy said:
which OTA did you uninstall if you happen to remember? mine is running the same version and i want to prevent updates.
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The following two commands worked on Fire HD8 (7th Gen) with OS 5.3.3.0. It should work for Fire HD10 with OS 5.4.0.0 :
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota

Dan_firehd said:
The following two commands worked on Fire HD8 (7th Gen) with OS 5.3.3.0. It should work for Fire HD10 with OS 5.4.0.0 :
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota
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Thanks. My only problem/concern now is that I'm on the same version as woundedworld which is 5.4.1.0 and I have no idea where I can find a download for 5.4.0.0 to attempt to downgrade. I may give the commands a shot on mine tonight and hope for the best. Thanks!

Dan_firehd said:
The following two commands worked on Fire HD8 (7th Gen) with OS 5.3.3.0. It should work for Fire HD10 with OS 5.4.0.0 :
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota
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On FireOS 5.6.0.0 it will give you FAILURE.
But you can instead use two following commands:
pm clear --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota
pm clear --user 0 com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota
Tested it on my FireHD10 (2017) with FireOS 5.6.0.0 and it seemed it worked

Tomatenjoghurt said:
On FireOS 5.6.0.0 it will give you FAILURE.
But you can instead use two following commands:
pm clear --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota
pm clear --user 0 com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota
Tested it on my FireHD10 (2017) with FireOS 5.6.0.0 and it seemed it worked
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"Clear" just clears user data for the packages, but leaves both intact. Meaning, this doesn't uninstall anything.

scolfaro said:
"Clear" just clears user data for the packages, but leaves both intact. Meaning, this doesn't uninstall anything.
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No, but it's helpful if you connect to wifi and it starts downloading an ota package.

crazyates said:
No, but it's helpful if you connect to wifi and it starts downloading an ota package.
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well, seeing that we're on 5.6.0.0, it might be too late for that as well

scolfaro said:
well, seeing that we're on 5.6.0.0, it might be too late for that as well
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Well in case you want to prevent future updates, obviously. Or for anyone who isn't you that wants to prevent updating to 5.6.0.0.
Side note: I'm on 5.4.0.1 on my HD 8 (2017). I can't uninstall OTA & Forced OTA apks, but I have them blocked with No Root Firewall. I also have lock screen Special Offers blocked with No Root Firewall. I have Nova Launcher, Hijacklauncher v3, and Google Play Store. Is there any reason I should stay at 5.4.0.1, or does it not make a difference if I upgrade to 5.6.0.0? I'd still have Google Play, Nova Launcher, hijacklauncher, and blocked special offers, so what am I gaining by staying at 5.4.0.1?

crazyates said:
Well in case you want to prevent future updates, obviously. Or for anyone who isn't you that wants to prevent updating to 5.6.0.0.
Side note: I'm on 5.4.0.1 on my HD 8 (2017). I can't uninstall OTA & Forced OTA apks, but I have them blocked with No Root Firewall. I also have lock screen Special Offers blocked with No Root Firewall. I have Nova Launcher, Hijacklauncher v3, and Google Play Store. Is there any reason I should stay at 5.4.0.1, or does it not make a difference if I upgrade to 5.6.0.0? I'd still have Google Play, Nova Launcher, hijacklauncher, and blocked special offers, so what am I gaining by staying at 5.4.0.1?
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"No Root Firewall" seems to be great and very useful, just installed it (provided it isn't doing anything "funny" with all the data it's funneling)... Do you have any idea about this?

Hey guys,
I am having a problem updating Kindle apps via Playstore. I get the dreaded unable to update error message 505. Also, my device is not listed in the list of devices on Playstore. This occurs on all my Kindle devices which I have the current HD 8 and 10 with software v5.6.00. Any one help me out? Thanks.

scolfaro said:
"No Root Firewall" seems to be great and very useful, just installed it (provided it isn't doing anything "funny" with all the data it's funneling)... Do you have any idea about this?
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I don't think it is. It shows up to the system as a fake vpn, but I don't believe it reroutes that data anywhere. The app hasn't been updated since November of 2014, but it still just works as intended.
tech6 said:
Hey guys,
I am having a problem updating Kindle apps via Playstore. I get the dreaded unable to update error message 505. Also, my device is not listed in the list of devices on Playstore. This occurs on all my Kindle devices which I have the current HD 8 and 10 with software v5.6.00. Any one help me out? Thanks.
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I get the same thing to, but I'm on 5.4.0.1. The play store doesn't have the permissions to overwrite the kindle app that comes on the phone. I'm guessing there's nothing we can do about it at this point?

Ok, that makes sense. Thank you for your input.
Kindle updated again and I see where the Kindle app has updated from version 10... to version 14.... What's interesting about this is although Amazon has updated the Kindle tab, it does not have the same features as the Kindle app offered on the Playstore which is version 8.... Supposedly, we can chose a dark or light theme among other things. However, the Amazon update did not have those features in the updated Kindle app.
crazyates said:
I don't think it is. It shows up to the system as a fake vpn, but I don't believe it reroutes that data anywhere. The app hasn't been updated since November of 2014, but it still just works as intended.
I get the same thing to, but I'm on 5.4.0.1. The play store doesn't have the permissions to overwrite the kindle app that comes on the phone. I'm guessing there's nothing we can do about it at this point?
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crazyates said:
Well in case you want to prevent future updates, obviously. Or for anyone who isn't you that wants to prevent updating to 5.6.0.0.
Side note: I'm on 5.4.0.1 on my HD 8 (2017). I can't uninstall OTA & Forced OTA apks, but I have them blocked with No Root Firewall. I also have lock screen Special Offers blocked with No Root Firewall. I have Nova Launcher, Hijacklauncher v3, and Google Play Store. Is there any reason I should stay at 5.4.0.1, or does it not make a difference if I upgrade to 5.6.0.0? I'd still have Google Play, Nova Launcher, hijacklauncher, and blocked special offers, so what am I gaining by staying at 5.4.0.1?
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I've installed NoRoot Firewall too. Could you please tell me what services must I definitely block so that I could prevent future OTA's from being shoved down my throat?
Also, I got the one with special offers, but to my surprise I still don't see ads on the lockscreen.

Dan_firehd said:
The following two commands worked on Fire HD8 (7th Gen) with OS 5.3.3.0. It should work for Fire HD10 with OS 5.4.0.0 :
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota
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Hi, I'm new to this. How/where do I do this?

Dankees said:
Hi, I'm new to this. How/where do I do this?
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You do this from the PC side via ADB interface.
Here is a link for more detailed explanation about
"pm uninstall ..." :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/tut-root-cleaner-android-experience-hd8-t3797327

Turning off Auto-Update Kindle Fire HD-10
Dan_firehd said:
The following two commands worked on Fire HD8 (7th Gen) with OS 5.3.3.0. It should work for Fire HD10 with OS 5.4.0.0 :
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota
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This will work on the FireHD 10 Gen7 w/version 5.6.2.0 too. I use Linux, but it should work the same in Windoze. You must use sudo or su to work as root otherwise it will fail.
USB-connect your Fire to a PC
in terminal:
adb shell
su
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota

Dan_firehd said:
The following two commands worked on Fire HD8 (7th Gen) with OS 5.3.3.0. It should work for Fire HD10 with OS 5.4.0.0 :
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota
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Success reported on a new Fire HD 10 with 5.6.2.0. How would I check?

Is there a way to completely disable OTA Updates on Rooted Fire HD 10?

A few days ago, I rooted my Amazon Fire HD 10 OS 5.6.0.0 with kingoroot. I've customized my tablet and removed a lot of the unnecessary Amazon apps. I really like how my Amazon Fire HD 10 looks right now and don't want to see it get messed up because of an update.
Is there any sure way to stop the Amazon Fire HD 10 from updating? I removed the DeviceSoftwareOTA.apk from the device already, but I've read elsewhere that simply removing the DeviceSoftwareOTA won't stop the updates from happening. Is there anything else I can do?

Yes, you also need to remove ForcedOTA (com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota). With both of these removed, no updates are possible.

From my experience on HD8 (7th Gen) on OS 5.3.3.0 since September :
Even though I could not root HD8, I was able to "pm uninstall" both com.amazon.device.software.ota and com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota
Since then, with WiFi connected everyday, it had never updated to a new version of Fire OS.

Since it is rooted, use ES File Explorer (change settings to give it root permission and show hidden files) and rename the file /system/etc/security/otacerts.zip. It uses this file to verify the updates. While you are at it, I need a copy of the otacerts.zip file if you don't mind. I am trying to restore mine and lost it during a factory restore.

Dan_firehd said:
From my experience on HD8 (7th Gen) on OS 5.3.3.0 since September :
Even though I could not root HD8, I was able to "pm uninstall" both com.amazon.device.software.ota and com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota
Since then, with WiFi connected everyday, it had never updated to a new version of Fire OS.
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what did you set user as I ran this command pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.otter.oobe.forced.ota and got user not found

ecwebster31 said:
what did you set user as I ran this command pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.otter.oobe.forced.ota and got user not found
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I am not sure what you are asking. I did not "set user".
The following were what I typed:
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota

69ragtop said:
Since it is rooted, use ES File Explorer (change settings to give it root permission and show hidden files) and rename the file /system/etc/security/otacerts.zip. It uses this file to verify the updates. While you are at it, I need a copy of the otacerts.zip file if you don't mind. I am trying to restore mine and lost it during a factory restore.
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ES File Explorer has become crapware. Try Amaze file manager... simple, compact, all you need without the unnecessary junk ES tries to foist on you now.

ecwebster31 said:
what did you set user as I ran this command pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.otter.oobe.forced.ota and got user not found
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try replacing 0 with current so: -k --user current

pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota
I tried these two commands and I get a "failed to delete" message which I assume is because I have not rooted the tablet. There is an app called "Settings Database Editor". Does anyone have any experience with that? I used it to successfully disable the lock screen without rooting, but it looks like I'm going to have to take the plunge and root in order to block the OTA updates. (first time working with an android device)

ironlion37 said:
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota
I tried these two commands and I get a "failed to delete" message which I assume is because I have not rooted the tablet. There is an app called "Settings Database Editor". Does anyone have any experience with that? I used it to successfully disable the lock screen without rooting, but it looks like I'm going to have to take the plunge and root in order to block the OTA updates. (first time working with an android device)
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Most of the ability to disable system apps has been patched already. The command you posted above has long been patched. Settings Database Editor is great and powerful. You're lucky you got the lock.disable to work. 9 times out of 10 it doesn't.
So you are correct. Unless you got any of the known tools to work, the only way to truly stop OTA is to destroy the application that handles them. My HD 8 has been on 5.4.0.0 or less for 2 almost 3 years because the commands you posted above, totally disabled the app.
Sent from my Galaxy S4 using XDA Labs

ironlion37 said:
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota
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DragonFire1024 said:
My HD 8 has been on 5.4.0.0 or less for 2 almost 3 years because the commands you posted above, totally disabled the app.
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Good to know that these two commands is all what's needed. I was just able to successfully execute them on a mtk-su rooted Fire HD 10 "suez" running 5.6.4.0.
Just out of curiosity,
1. Does anybody know what "otter" and "oobe" are supposed to mean, i.e. what com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota is supposed to do?
2. Some people also recommend to get rid of com.amazon.device.software.ota.override — what does this do?
3. Why do some people also remove com.amazon.settings.systemupdates — this is helpful for checking the current OS version, right?
Thank you very much for all your work @DragonFire1024!

anon/droid said:
Good to know that these two commands is all what's needed. I was just able to successfully execute them on a mtk-su rooted Fire HD 10 "suez" running 5.6.4.0.
Just out of curiosity,
1. Does anybody know what "otter" and "oobe" are supposed to mean, i.e. what com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota is supposed to do?
2. Some people also recommend to get rid of com.amazon.device.software.ota.override — what does this do?
3. Why do some people also remove com.amazon.settings.systemupdates — this is helpful for checking the current OS version, right?
Thank you very much for all your work @DragonFire1024!
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The first and second one are applications that grabbed OTA updates sent by Amazon to update the system of your device.vI would assume if one application shuts down the other one takes over. But like most things you need one to work in order for the other to work. If you simply disabled the second one no OTA updates will be sent to your device that will upgrade or change Amazon system like giving you a new version of fire OS.
Removing the third one just disables your ability to tap on the system updates page in the settings application. it will not actually stop any update from taking place on the device if it's disabled. It just removes your ability to get anywhere near the update section or your ability to visually see what's going on there.

[Fire HD 10 2019 rooted 7.3.1.0] Restore deleted Amazon apps

Hi,
I deleted almost all the Amazon apps on my HD 10 2019(7.3.1.0). But now I need to use the prime video app and Kindle app. I can install Kindle app from Play store but after installing and logging in nothing works. The app doesn't go beyond syncing account.
PHP:
When I try to install prime video from Play store, it fails to install.
What can I do to fix this
Thanks.

tbrar said:
Hi,
I deleted almost all the Amazon apps on my HD 10 2019(7.3.1.0). But now I need to use the prime video app and Kindle app. I can install Kindle app from Play store but after installing and logging in nothing works. The app doesn't go beyond syncing account.
PHP:
When I try to install prime video from Play store, it fails to install.
What can I do to fix this
Thanks.
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You can do over ADB
Code:
adb shell pm enable <package-name>
//Example
adb shell pm enable com.amazon.avod

AmznUser444 Dev said:
You can do over ADB
Code:
adb shell pm enable <package-name>
//Example
adb shell pm enable com.amazon.avod
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I tried both
Code:
adb shell pm enable com.amazon.avod
adb shell pm enable --user 0 com.amazon.avod
and in both cases I get
Code:
Package com.amazon.avod new state: enabled
But the application is still missing

Play store version of Amazon app is different from the one for Fire OS so it will not work. as for using adb commands, there may be more than 1 package that needs to be re-enabled for Prime Video or Kindle to work.
before u can re-enable any app, did u delete or only disable those Amazon apps? if u have deleted them, u cannot re-enable them of cus. it will a pain to hunt down those packages. OS version 7.3.1.0 is never published n quickly replaced by 7.3.1.1 n newer ones. those are all patched to prevent root access via mtk-su.
if u dont care about root, the easiest way to get back Prime Video and Kindle app is to download and install the current OS from here: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=G2JXLC4L34GX73TE