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I mean it in a literal sense.
If you look at the image below, youll be able to see that its a bit blurry,
I've drawn 2 black lines in the image, notice that the top and the bottom is blurry and the center is focused.
It doesnt occur alot, but it does happen and sometimes even in videos.
Any help as to why? Perhaps 4.2.2 might fix this?
I think the DOF is so narrow because the lens has a wide aperture of F2.0 which helps in low light.
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I think the DOF is so narrow because the lens has a wide aperture of F2.0 which helps in low light.
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Can you explain what DOF is?
Is there anyway I could fix it? You think anyone else has this problem?
"depth of field (DOF) is the distance between the nearest and farthest objects in a scene that appear acceptably sharp in an image." - (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depth_of_field)
And I don't think it's a problem. It's just how the lens is made with a large aperture to allow more light in to the image sensor.
You could try to compensate this a bit by increasing the sharpness from the camera menu.
I'd be more concerned with the poor dynamic range shown in the top of the pic. ;O)
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That`s totally normal for the one, it only exposes the focus point, instead of the whole image, could htc not have given us a choice
John.
americasteam said:
I'd be more concerned with the poor dynamic range shown in the top of the pic. ;O)
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That`s totally normal for the one, it only exposes the focus point, instead of the whole image, could htc not have given us a choice
John.
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Well that sucks. One of the reasons I bought this phone was for the camera.
Do you know anyway I could fix this? or atleast minimize it?
The problem is when the image contains both dark and bright areas, if you focus on the bright, the dark areas will be underexposed and if you focus on the dark the bright areas will be overexposed, you need to find an area to focus on that will give you an average exposure for the entire image.
I have the same problem, but some photo`s are amazing and some are utter crap.
Try using hdr mode, it takes multiple images at different exposure levels and then integrates them into one photo, but you need to keep the phone very steady, hopefully HTC will fix this problem.
John.
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Well that sucks. One of the reasons I bought this phone was for the camera.
Do you know anyway I could fix this? or atleast minimize it?
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Mine does this as well. Easiest fix I've come across is just tapping on the screen in the area you want focused...it seems to hold focus better after the first time and the photos look a lot better.
Problem is, I generally forget about this until after the first picture is taken without it. So it's a process for sure.
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Has anybody tried some other camera apps from the play store, maybe we can find one that exposes correctly, i wish the one had my nikon`s matrix metering
John.
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I bought this Camera Zoom FX app for £0.50p on sale that i never used, i think it`s about time i tried it.
John.
Mine is the same way. Wasn't bashing the camera was just giving my first impression of the pic posted. I think the camera is excellent for a phone. Small sensor and tiny optics will only go so far. This device is fantastic as an overall package.
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The sensor is great for a phone camera, but the software that does the exposure is very very poor or am i missing something???
John.
You rack focus
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Why are all you guys saying this is normal? Either you have defective phones or you don't know how to take pictures! ... The only time my One does this is when I use touch to focus on Macro mode. I have taken hundreds of pictures and no pictures look like yours unless I wanted them to.
Agreed. The picture in the OP looks like an issue with OIS, not depth of field.
If it was a one time thing then this thread doesn't need to exist. If it happens a lot the phone needs to be replaced.
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Agreed. The picture in the OP looks like an issue with OIS, not depth of field.
If it was a one time thing then this thread doesn't need to exist. If it happens a lot the phone needs to be replaced.
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Well its not a repetitive condition but occurs once in a while. Even in videos.
Try camera fv-5 from playstore. DSLR style camera app with multiple metering modes.
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Why are all you guys saying this is normal? Either you have defective phones or you don't know how to take pictures! ... The only time my One does this is when I use touch to focus on Macro mode. I have taken hundreds of pictures and no pictures look like yours unless I wanted them to.
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I do think it's a flaw in the camera software that exposure and focus can't be decoupled. I LOVE the shallow depth of field but can't use it property because touching-to-focus blows out highlights.
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I mean it in a literal sense.
If you look at the image below, youll be able to see that its a bit blurry,
I've drawn 2 black lines in the image, notice that the top and the bottom is blurry and the center is focused.
It doesnt occur alot, but it does happen and sometimes even in videos.
Any help as to why? Perhaps 4.2.2 might fix this?
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Most of these comments come from people who have no idea what they're talking about.
Your phone is perfect. Nothing wrong with it. All you did was tap to focus on the middle of the picture.
This did 2 things.
1. It will FOCUS on the center of the pic. Other areas will be blurred. Hence the term, focus. That's how cameras work.
2. The exposure was adjusted to where you focused it to. What does that mean?
If you focused on a light area the camera will adjust the exposure to compensate. What that means is if it's light, the camera will darken the overall image. Lights become darker, farms become darker.
If the photo is focused on a dark area, the camera will adjust the photo by making the dark area brighter and the bright areas, as a result, brighter. Which is why you have super white skies.
To fix it, go to the camera settings and I think select touch to capture. But to say fix means it's a problem.
It's not.
For landscapes, use landscape mode which will focus on the entire image and bot blur. Also you can tap on the area where you want adjusted, ie brighter or darker. Blur again is only cause you focused. Don't focus on landscapes.
Photographer here. Focus on this comment and not anyone who says your phone is messed up. This is why.
Take a look at my two attached photos. One I clicked on the sky and the other I clicked on the grass. Light then dark. Can you figure out which was which and see what happened to the photo?
Note that it was overcast and cloudy. There were NO BLUE SKIES. it was grey. So the sky wasnt killed by the camera
Btw don't always use Hdr. Don't. Its not a saving grace every time. If you shoot in the sun you're shooting in the sun. Photography rule #1: DON'T.
ALWAYS USE THE SCENES WHEN YOU CAN. WHICH IS WHY THEYTE THERE AND EXIST. SLRS HAVE THEM TOO FKR A REASON!
As for the lines, panorama? Did you move too fast? That's what happens when you do - camera can't stitch properly
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Most of these comments come from people who have no idea what they're talking about.
Your phone is perfect. Nothing wrong with it. All you did was tap to focus on the middle of the picture.
This did 2 things.
1. It will FOCUS on the center of the pic. Other areas will be blurred. Hence the term, focus. That's how cameras work.
2. The exposure was adjusted to where you focused it to. What does that mean?
If you focused on a light area the camera will adjust the exposure to compensate. What that means is if it's light, the camera will darken the overall image. Lights become darker, farms become darker.
If the photo is focused on a dark area, the camera will adjust the photo by making the dark area brighter and the bright areas, as a result, brighter. Which is why you have super white skies.
To fix it, go to the camera settings and I think select touch to capture. But to say fix means it's a problem.
It's not.
For landscapes, use landscape mode which will focus on the entire image and bot blur. Also you can tap on the area where you want adjusted, ie brighter or darker. Blur again is only cause you focused. Don't focus on landscapes.
Photographer here. Focus on this comment and not anyone who says your phone is messed up. This is why.
Take a look at my two attached photos. One I clicked on the sky and the other I clicked on the grass. Light then dark. Can you figure out which was which and see what happened to the photo?
Note that it was overcast and cloudy. There were NO BLUE SKIES. it was grey. So the sky wasnt killed by the camera
Btw don't always use Hdr. Don't. Its not a saving grace every time. If you shoot in the sun you're shooting in the sun. Photography rule #1: DON'T.
ALWAYS USE THE SCENES WHEN YOU CAN. WHICH IS WHY THEYTE THERE AND EXIST. SLRS HAVE THEM TOO FKR A REASON!
As for the lines, panorama? Did you move too fast? That's what happens when you do - camera can't stitch properly
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The black lines on the image, I DREW to show where it gets blurred (not panaroma).
You're right, but when I focus on the center, all objects in the background should get blurred right? I mean thats how the focus works. You focus on a particular subject (lets assume in the foreground) the objects in background gets blurred.
If you see the image I uploaded (in the top line) the upper part of the tree is blurred and the lower part is focused.
It doesn't work like that right?
Hi all,
I just wanted to start a new thread regarding galaxy s6 camera issue, particularly about the pink tint/flare at night shots.
This is well known issue for HTC M7, and I did not expect the same issue from Samsung.
Basically, the camera is fine at daylight shots, but at night shots it will produce pink tint or flares around the corner edges. Sometimes the whole photo will just look pink.
See the attached photos for example.
I have taken a photo at the same location with iphone 6. As you can see it is so much better reflecting black colour sky. The s6 camera fails miserably at low light shots.
Even in the pitch black room, it will produce this pint flares.
I am wondering whether this issue is going to be massive one, just like for the HTC M7 handset (its thread on XDA runs very very long).
I hope this is not the case for s6.
I have returned mine for replacement. I'll report back whether the replacement unit is faulty as well.
This is going to be my 3rd replacement. First two times had a bad screen with yellowish tint. I have to say I am very disappointed with Samsung's QA.
By the way, my phone was 64gb, ISOCELL camera.
Today, I have visited many different network stores and retailer shops to to see if I can replicate this issue on the display models.
When I covered the camera lens on the display models with a cloth so that it shows total blackness, none of them exhibited the issue I have. Same experiment on mine will produces these pink tint.
I have checked more than 15 display models, galaxy s6 and s6 edge, in different stores and it surprised me they all had Sony sensors.
They were all 32gb models.
A friend of mine has a 64gb galaxy s6 gold colour as well and he's experiencing the similar problem, but not as bad as mine. This leads me to believe, perhaps the issue is only with ISOCELL units.
If you are experiencing the similar issue, could you please post what sensor you are using?
Thanks
I only have the pink tint issue in the centre of the screen. All my s6s have it in the centre,whether Sony or Samsung
I forgot to mention that all settings were set to auto.
Even in the pitch black light condition, I get those pink flares around the edges of the photo.
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I only have the pink tint issue in the centre of the screen. All my s6s have it in the centre,whether Sony or Samsung
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Not the same issue then, surely?
isocell=inferior quality
This is with Sony sensor
From a Isocell. Did the cover the camera thing, no pink tint.
isocell=inferior quality
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Maybe if you talk about build quality, I don't know. I would disagree though if you meant picture quality.
Mine is NOT pink
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Hi all,
I just wanted to start a new thread regarding galaxy s6 camera issue, particularly about the pink tint/flare at night shots.
This is well known issue for HTC M7, and I did not expect the same issue from Samsung.
Basically, the camera is fine at daylight shots, but at night shots it will produce pink tint or flares around the corner edges. Sometimes the whole photo will just look pink.
See the attached photos for example.
I have taken a photo at the same location with iphone 6. As you can see it is so much better reflecting black colour sky. The s6 camera fails miserably at low light shots.
Even in the pitch black room, it will produce this pint flares.
I am wondering whether this issue is going to be massive one, just like for the HTC M7 handset (its thread on XDA runs very very long).
I hope this is not the case for s6.
I have returned mine for replacement. I'll report back whether the replacement unit is faulty as well.
This is going to be my 3rd replacement. First two times had a bad screen with yellowish tint. I have to say I am very disappointed with Samsung's QA.
By the way, my phone was 64gb, ISOCELL camera.
Today, I have visited many different network stores and retailer shops to to see if I can replicate this issue on the display models.
When I covered the camera lens on the display models with a cloth so that it shows total blackness, none of them exhibited the issue I have. (Same experiment on mine will produces these pink tint).
I have checked more than 15 display models, galaxy s6 and s6 edge, in different stores and it surprised me they all had Sony sensors.
They were all 32gb models.
A friend of mine has a 64gb galaxy s6 gold colour as well and he's experiencing the similar problem, but not as bad as mine. This leads me to believe, perhaps the issue is only with ISOCELL units.
If you are experiencing the similar issue, could you please post what sensor you are using?
I hope this issue
Thanks
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I have the Isocell and I see NO pink at all. I did have the M7 with the pink issue and I know exactly
what you are talking about. Absolutely NO pink cast in any low light shots.
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Looks like amp glow or noise coming from somewhere, turn the ISO down and it'll stop that, perfectly normal when the ISO is being boosted to stupid levels.
What do the image properties say on the originals? What ISO are they set at?
These things aren't all built equally either though, maybe yours is getting more interference from somewhere.
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Looks like amp glow or noise coming from somewhere, turn the ISO down and it'll stop that, perfectly normal when the ISO is being boosted to stupid levels.
What do the image properties say on the originals? What ISO are they set at?
These things aren't all built equally either though, maybe yours is getting more interference from somewhere.
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Every photo was taken with auto mode setting. Tried different locations at night to see if they all produce this pink cast and they all did.
I don't play with ISO or any other camera setting on a smartphone. For a smartphone, I just want to take it out of my pocket and then take a shot.
I tried lowering the ISO and it does reduce the noise and pink tint; however, the photo then becomes all dark. What is the point of having a F1.9 camera sensor if you can't even take a brighter photo at low light conditions compared to an iphone..
Also, when I do that covering the camera lens thing with a cloth, mine produces this pink cast whereas the display models did not. Display models produced pitch black photos without any pink cast like the one Aletheia posted above. All settings were set to auto mode for this "experiment".
Since Aletheia's camera sensor is ISOCELL, I wonder if this pink cast issue is not related to camera sensor types. Mine could be just faulty.
I would like to find out though how many people are having this problem and what percentage of these people have got ISOCELL sensor.
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From a Isocell. Did the cover the camera thing, no pink tint.
Maybe if you talk about build quality, I don't know. I would disagree though if you meant picture quality.
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This is what I got from the display models (all setting set to auto) and no pink cast at all.
MIne is just un-usable at this stage at night. Every photo gets this nice pink cast..
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I don't have this problem as far as I can see.
i have this very same issue
this is when i covered the lens, full auto with hdr auto
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i have this very same issue
this is when i covered the lens, full auto with hdr auto
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What sensor do you have?
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What sensor do you have?
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Sensor isocell
Non problem
Okay I tried it for you and get a little of the pink stuff. I think it's normal because the ISO is boosted above 1250.
If someone is willing to do the same with Sony to compare, that'd be great.
Here's a shot at ISO800. No pink ****.
I still see overall pink cast on the photo to be honest.
Can someone with Sony sensor take a photo in the pitch black condition with setting set to all auto and see if it produces any pink cast.
The display models I tried with showed no pink tink whatsoever.
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Here I have compared s6 vs iPhone 6.
Both phones had all settings set to auto.
Left is s6 and right is iPhone 6.
I don't know if s6 is having trouble with auto iso or something. For me I have to decrease the iso significantly to get the pink cast effect to minimal but by then whole photo becomes darker than iPhone.
Look at the difference when you take a photo in the pitch black condition.
Clearly something is not right with my s6. All settings were set to auto for both phones..
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Took some photos with iso set to 100 and pink cast is still present (more obvious if you turn screen brightness to max.)
I am concluding this is sensor related issue at this point.
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Hi Everyone,
Have a look at attached example image to see what I mean.
Please try to take a manual shot with your wide lens in a very dark environment with very high ISO (3200 in example) and exposure time of 5secs plus (20 secs in example).
Everyone who has tried that so far has the same issue, a big purple shadow on the top. It's most likely the laser and it won't happen with the normal lense.
Do you have the same result? Any suggestions what we can do about it?
Whoa! I haven't seen that in a long time. I think maybe around the time of the Nikon D80. I can't currently try this out personally but by the sounds of it what has happened is called Amp Glow. It's when you kind of start getting out of the bounds of what is really acceptable shooting conditions for a given sensor. In this case, if you really are shooting in conditions that call for high ISO AND still need a shutter speed of 20 seconds and the image still comes out that dark, then you're way beyond realistic expectations for shooting with a cellphone. In the older DSLRs, people would see it when doing star trail photos that were 10 minutes or longer. Frame stacking software became the solution to this problem by taking a lot of shorter photos and stacking them up and pulling through the new dots of light. (And this is still used by a lot of photographers as it also gets rid of other forms of noise.)
So what is happening? ISO is pretty much the gain. It's the amplification being applied to the signal coming off of the sensor. Ideally with ANY camera, you want to stay as close to the base ISO of a given sensor. That's usually the lowest ISO number. (There are some exceptions where some camera manufacturers have done some trickery to get a lower ISO to show up but that was short lived as it didn't really help things.) Unfortunately, image sensors are not hanging in space. They're packed in with a ton of other stuff. Stuff that gets warm. If that stuff is near an edge of the sensor, that heat bleeds into the sensor and then those warmed pixels get amplified by the higher ISO and next thing you know, Amp Glow. Well, that's the simplified version at least.
A cellphone, any cellphone, is not designed for those kinds of shots. If they were, they would have a tripod mount, a much better flash, and a much larger sensor. (Yeah, the flash on your cellphone is not meant to light up stuff much past 5 feet. Even the ones built into a DSLR aren't meant for much past about 15-20 feet.) The reality is that cellphones are designed for handheld shots with decent light. Even the larger sensor used in some cellphones shouldn't be expected to pull any miracles that top end DSLRs are just barely pulling off cleanly. For that shot, you would want to use a dedicated camera locked down on a tripod using base ISO and long exposure at the very least. Although, personally, I'd probably just take a pass on that shot.
someone on reddit has the exam same issue with the wide angle. and someone said it's in the regular too. weird. my s7 never had this purple hue when I did even 30 second exposure at night.
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something obstructing the lens maybe, or just camera went bad
Better hope this isn't the same problem the HTC one m7 had with the purple haze. The culprit was a light sensor on the camera would overhear and give a purple haze on the screen in low light. Place the phone face down and with the camera on and see if the purple comes back.
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Dark Jedi said:
Better hope this isn't the same problem the HTC one m7 had with the purple haze. The culprit was a light sensor on the camera would overhear and give a purple haze on the screen in low light. Place the phone face down and with the camera on and see if the purple comes back.
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No, it won't happen with the same ISO/Shutter settings I took the previously attached photo. But maybe that's because it's not dark enough. Did the M7 issue only happen in dark enviornment as well?
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Whoa! I haven't seen that in a long time. I think maybe around the time of the Nikon D80. I can't currently try this out personally but by the sounds of it what has happened is called Amp Glow. It's when you kind of start getting out of the bounds of what is really acceptable shooting conditions for a given sensor. In this case, if you really are shooting in conditions that call for high ISO AND still need a shutter speed of 20 seconds and the image still comes out that dark, then you're way beyond realistic expectations for shooting with a cellphone. In the older DSLRs, people would see it when doing star trail photos that were 10 minutes or longer. Frame stacking software became the solution to this problem by taking a lot of shorter photos and stacking them up and pulling through the new dots of light. (And this is still used by a lot of photographers as it also gets rid of other forms of noise.)
So what is happening? ISO is pretty much the gain. It's the amplification being applied to the signal coming off of the sensor. Ideally with ANY camera, you want to stay as close to the base ISO of a given sensor. That's usually the lowest ISO number. (There are some exceptions where some camera manufacturers have done some trickery to get a lower ISO to show up but that was short lived as it didn't really help things.) Unfortunately, image sensors are not hanging in space. They're packed in with a ton of other stuff. Stuff that gets warm. If that stuff is near an edge of the sensor, that heat bleeds into the sensor and then those warmed pixels get amplified by the higher ISO and next thing you know, Amp Glow. Well, that's the simplified version at least.
A cellphone, any cellphone, is not designed for those kinds of shots. If they were, they would have a tripod mount, a much better flash, and a much larger sensor. (Yeah, the flash on your cellphone is not meant to light up stuff much past 5 feet. Even the ones built into a DSLR aren't meant for much past about 15-20 feet.) The reality is that cellphones are designed for handheld shots with decent light. Even the larger sensor used in some cellphones shouldn't be expected to pull any miracles that top end DSLRs are just barely pulling off cleanly. For that shot, you would want to use a dedicated camera locked down on a tripod using base ISO and long exposure at the very least. Although, personally, I'd probably just take a pass on that shot.
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Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation. My question here would be, why doesn't it happen to other phone-cameras with similar settings?
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No, it won't happen with the same ISO/Shutter settings I took the previously attached photo. But maybe that's because it's not dark enough. Did the M7 issue only happen in dark enviornment as well?
Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation. My question here would be, why doesn't it happen to other phone-cameras with similar settings?
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Yes the m7 only happened in low light / dark environment. Do a Google search for HTC one m7 purple haze. What caused me not to buy another htc phone
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Kujoja said:
No, it won't happen with the same ISO/Shutter settings I took the previously attached photo. But maybe that's because it's not dark enough. Did the M7 issue only happen in dark enviornment as well?
Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation. My question here would be, why doesn't it happen to other phone-cameras with similar settings?
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Settings aren't the only part of the equation. The other par is the placement of other components within the device. I need to look at the tear downs to see how the various parts are placed next to each other but something is heating up and passing that heat to the sensor. Just off the top of my head there are four parts together; the two camera sensors, the laser focus module, and the flask module. Each one of those on its own will generate heat if used enough.
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Yes the m7 only happened in low light / dark environment. Do a Google search for HTC one m7 purple haze. What caused me not to buy another htc phone
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It's the same issue. I haven't looked at the HTC issue but from your description of it, it's the same. Amp glow is what it is called in digital photography. (OK, silly that I said digital as you don't get amp glow in film.) The glow will show up because there is no other data coming off of the sensor for those pixels and the heat is amplified as "data".
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Ok, just watched the JerryRigEverything repair tear down. The flash module sits right next to the wide angle and the laser focus next to the regular sensor. There is no mention as to what is sitting next to the sensors on the main board but I see silver boxes on each side with one having some sort of black and yellow warning sticker. Not sure what they are so I can't rope them in as culprits. So for now, I'd say it's a combo of the four units of the camera assembly.
Were you running the flash or one of the cameras a lot while you were playing around? Shooting a lot of long exposure shots in a row?
I'll get to test out some night shots and video tonight at a lighting ceremony but I'm still not expecting to shoot 3200 for 20 seconds type shots. Again, that's pretty extreme.
I just got my brand new S8+ USA Unlocked version today. Been playing with it, getting it set up, and was taking some pictures outside while sitting (parked) in my vehicle.
It's very bright and sunny here in Tulsa today, but I'm parked under an overpass, so I'm in shade. I was not intentionally talking pictures of my legs, but was looking down as I was looking at settings, and I noted the image looked very foggy. Actually I received the dirty lens notification, but I had just wiped the lense off with microfiber. I confirmed it was clean, but the image was still foggy.
I took my case off just in case and no change. That when I noticed it. A semi circle of light around the edge of the picture. Identical to the lens flare WIDELY reported in the Pixel camera.
Now I know, all lenses have flare, and the software, filter, processors, etc eliminate it, but it was such a huge deal with the Pixel.
I know this was not a normal lighting condition, shaded area with a bright background, but honestly it was only during similar scenes that I would see the flare on my Pixel.
I'll check my wife's phone to see if hers also flares, but my guess is that it will.
Anyone else noticed this?
The second image I posted is darker and clearer because I used the auto correct in editing. It originally looked just like the first.
Never noticed any lens flares on my phone, but the pixel's lens flare is much worse, see if you get it in other situations.
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Never noticed any lens flares on my phone, but the pixel's lens flare is much worse, see if you get it in other situations.
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I'll definitely keep an eye on it. I didn't think the Pixels was that bad or any worse then this one, and I've used the Pixel XL for the last six months.
Finger print flair?
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Finger print flair?
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My finger was nowhere near the lens and I had just wiped it clean with a microfiber cloth. There were no fingerprints or smudges on it.
The highlighted thing about g5 plus was also the reason for bad camera. The 1.7 aperture and wide angle camera are the cause here. Though it is good for shots within a certain distance like 10-15 feet. But any further the pictures loose sharpness and gets noisy due to which moto decided to use high denoising due to which the photos look soft. My father's redmi 4 clicks better distance pictures than this. It has 2.0 aperture and little less wide angle lens.
Don't forget that G5 Plus have the same camera sensor as HTC U11 or Asus Zenfone 4 (which takes good pictures on stock software).
Worse photo quality is caused by software (Motorola/Lenovo screw it up).
Did you tried any mods/apps? You can find a lot of these, but I suggest you to try Google camera app port.
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Don't forget that G5 Plus have the same camera sensor as HTC U11 or Asus Zenfone 4 (which takes good pictures on stock software).
Worse photo quality is caused by software (Motorola/Lenovo screw it up).
Did you tried any mods/apps? You can find a lot of these, but I suggest you to try Google camera app port.
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I use bacon camera on stock Android without root.
I disabled noise reduction and use hdr with manual mode and stable hands to get though grainy but nice pictures. Though the app is not perfect but it works
When I first got the G5+ I thought the camera was too dark... While a lower aperture may help in low light shots it does cause a bit of trouble for highly illuminated scenes.
HDR does compensate but it's nothing like HDR+ from Google.
Plus, terrible sharpen and overdone Noise Reduction excessive Color NR.
I felt quite dissapointed comparing it to my old Titan (G2)
Anyone tried to mod the camera to enable debug mode? You can disable noise reduction from there
ugupta100 said:
The highlighted thing about g5 plus was also the reason for bad camera. The 1.7 aperture and wide angle camera are the cause here. Though it is good for shots within a certain distance like 10-15 feet. But any further the pictures loose sharpness and gets noisy due to which moto decided to use high denoising due to which the photos look soft. My father's redmi 4 clicks better distance pictures than this. It has 2.0 aperture and little less wide angle lens.
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Coming from an old school enthusiast of photography background - you're aperture on your lens (in this case f1.7) isn't going to cause noise - that's a function of the sensor. A lot changed when we went from film to digital sensors, but the impact of the f number of the lens did not.
You might be on to something with the with loss of sharpness though. Typically a fixed focal length lens is at it's sharpest at it's only setting... but they very well could have forked this up.
Given that the camera does pretty adequately with other camera software or other hacks - I don't think it's a hardware issue or lens issue. It could be a cut rate sensor...
It could also just be that whomever chose the default settings for this camera did a bad job
pwag said:
Your aperture on your lens (in this case f1.7) isn't going to cause noise - that's a function of the sensor. A lot changed when we went from film to digital sensors, but the impact of the f number of the lens did not.
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What about shadows in bright scenes such as outdoor scenery?
I mean, wouldn't lens aperture like f2.2 preserve more of these details?
That's a function of the film/sensor.
Your f number controls light and the depth of field (area that's in focus) - a smaller f number is more desirable because it allows more light to the film/sensor.
The only thing different here than fine that I can see is the size/diameter of the lens related to the f number. A larger f number, like f 8 or f16 increases the depth of field and sharpness, but at the cost of light hitting the film/sensor. That results in a longer exposure time.
A wide open f stop means more light and shorter exposure times.
One thing we gained with sensors over film is a wider range between highlights and shadows... You could get more shadows and more highlights. Film could get only so much of that before shadows went black and highlights blew out to white. But you still have a limited range. You can't get it all. In order to keep the highlights from going completely white you have to trade off some of the shadow range.
It's early and I'm probably explaining this horribly. Your spectrum between black and white or shadows and highlights is very long. But your camera sensors capability can only encompass a range of that spectrum. If the spectrum were a line of shades of grey from black to white that was, say, 10 units long, the range you could get in one image might be six units long. You've gotta give up somcombo of four units either at the black end of the spectrum or the light side.
If the cameras loaing details in the shadows that's because it's opting to the highlight/light end of the range.
So lens doesn't play a huge role in what chunk of the spectrum the film/sensor can encompass. But does play a role in how quickly the sensor can collect that info. Higher f number = smaller amounts of light on the sensor = longer exposure times.
My guess would be that the sensor or software is biased toward highlights because it results in faster exposures making life easier for snap shots and selfies.
M1810 said:
Anyone tried to mod the camera to enable debug mode? You can disable noise reduction from there
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If you guys paid attention for once on this XDA, you might have seen my damn thread or the chromatixx thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/how-to/workaround-noise-reduction-t3744031
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/themes/modcamera-aggressive-sharpening-noise-t3604458