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Since root has been obtained and an alternative launcher can be installed, as has been mentioned there is really no need to stay on 5.0.0 anymore. I would recommend updating to 5.0.1. However, this procedure can still be applied to 5.0.1 and hopefully it'll prevent any future updates. (As of writing it 5.0.1 is the latest).
The steps are basically as follows:
Enable ADB by going to Settings> Device Options. Keep tapping on the Serial Number field until the Developer options field appears.
Under Developer options Enable ADB
Hook the Fire up to your computer and do the following commands:
adb shell pm hide com.amazon.otaverifier
adb shell pm hide com.amazon.device.software.ota
adb shell pm hide com.amazon.settings.systemupdates
I don't know which of three is the magic one, But you can not longer go to device options > system update. It also never appears to pull down the update in the background.
Rivethread23 - good work and many thanks for this
I know that you have the original Fire 7 with no system update but I wanted to see if any of your commands will work on 5.01. My device is on 5.01 has been in aeroplane mode since purchase, I have been using OTG Ethernet for connectivity and I have not signed into Amazon. Google Play is installed - basically a standalone device on 5.01 with no association with Amazon.
After running the commands and the ADB shell gave a [True State] after each command. Rebooted the device:
System Updates now gives the following error message: [The requested action is not permitted. Check Parental controls settings and try again]. As my device is not associated with Amazon parental controls have not been configured - so I browsed to a few proxy sites and such to confirm no filtering on web browsing etc
I've tried various launchers from Play store and every time the default Fire Launcher kicks back in again.
SD Card issue is still there.
When you tried the System Update button did you get the same error message as me? If so, I wonder if the Adb Shell command to disable OTA works on 5.01 as well?
Update 1: [adb shell pm hide com.amazon.firelauncher] disables the default Amazon launcher. I picked another launcher at random from Google Play. Halo installed and it worked with the default launcher hidden, however using the minimise middle button on the device forces the Parental Control Popup to appear.
So it is possible to hide the default launcher on 5.01 using ADB but it is causing issues. We need a better work around.
Unfortunately this only blocks the update from occurring. I ran into another issue on the 5.0.0 tablet in that I can't get Google play store working. It just says cannot connect. So I don't know if one of the above things broke it. It was getting late so I went to bed. I'll keep plugging at it and see what I can do.
I might finally take both of mine out of the box today, can more people confirm this is working? @Rivethread23, did you get the play store sorted out?
Couldn't wait, dove in. On an out-of-box Fire, running 5.0.0, these do in-fact keep the OTA updates from firing. I have been online, installing apps and customizing the tablet for over an hour with many reboots, no prompts or attempts of an update.
With this, and ads disabled, and the play store turned on we have a usable tablet!
F-Droid works as well, just sideload their APK to get access to lots of software:
https://f-droid.org/repo/org.fdroid.fdroid_96150.apk
Still stuck on Play Store in 5.0.0 *not working* for now.....same problem as OP
I can confirm that the Google Play Services, Login Services, and Framework are (at least partly) working, even though the Play Store is not. I sideloaded Gmail, and it automatically had my info, and downloaded my email.
Wait, I'm confused. In 1 post you say play store is on and working, then you're saying it's not...
Aside from the play store, it sounds like everything else is working fine! Is that correct. I'm asking because I'm thinking about buying a 2nd one of these, only if I can have it working 100% the way I have it now with my tablet, just with the ability to use a different launcher.
With the original 5.0.0 firmware, if you prevented the OTA update to 5.0.1:
+Can change launcher
+Can write to SD from apps
-Can't get Play Store to work (so far, but can manually side-load GApps (Gmail, Hangouts, etc))
In the other thread, people that have gone to 5.0.1:
-Locked to amazon Launcher when using HOME button
-Manual SD writing is disabled
+Google Play Store can be installed and 90% of the GApps work
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The key to take away is that if you get another one, and you do the fix in this thread to prevent OTA updates, you can simply wait til everyone gets things fixed and figured out. You can safely use it and not worry about getting pushed to a firmware that might be even more locked down.
On the other hand, if you're not worried about OTA updates breaking stuff, and want a working store, go to 5.0.1 and follow SD_Shadow's instructions in his thread on that subject.
Hopefully root comes soon and we can fix all these problems properly, but until then it's kinda hit and miss depending on what version you got.
Hope that helps.
Thanks Tufkal was going to post something along those lines but you beat me to it.
Essentially you can prevent updates from further locking down the tablet. Who knows what future updates bring? I'll wait and update as thing warrant.
I have two one on 5.0.0 and another on 5.0.1. While I like being able to use the launcher of my choosing on 5.0.0, the working google store and updated amazon store and apps have me using the 5.0.1 one. I am keeping the other on 5.0.0 until development starts then I'll try my hand at making a ROM.
Your device that is on 5.0.0 Firmware have you signed into Amazon and associated your device? Or is it standalone like mine?
Was on Amazon for a day. Factory reset it and am using it sans Amazon. Mostly using the 5.0.1 one myself.
Yep same here. 5.01 with no amazon sign in.
I've been playing around with the launcher again. Tried changing the hardcoded buttons and also with ADB Shell am force-stop pm disable on com.amazon.firelauncher to stop dependent services, ie hard buttons. All to no avail.
root definitely needed for this
I figured out a way to access some hidden functions within the OS last night. Seeing where this leads after work today Apparently I can cast the screen and access the home function disabled in 5.0.1. Problem is the home function doesn't override the hard coding.
Most interesting is something called Prod and Devo Switch that give "Access Denied" when I try to activate it. Hmmmm........
Here's what I have discovered. It's easier done on 5.0.0 but can be done on 5.0.1. You'll need another launcher like Nova installed. Installed "Anycut" from the google store. It'll let you put a shortcut on the desktop for any "activity". There are alot of items there not normally accessible. You can cast to a Chromcast for example (it works). The reason you need another launcher is the Amazon launcher doesn't support shortcuts I guess as they don't appear. They appear on Nova's desktop when created.
Most interesting is a shortcut called "Prod and Devo Switch" which if you look at the info refers to the "Amazon Device Settings" app.. ( com.amazon.device.settings?). It's separate from the user settings. If you try to access it it will say "Access Denied" on 5.0.1. Or "Permission denied" on 5.0.0. Makes me wonder if what needs to happen the app needs some additional permissions to be run. I was looking through the list of permissions via ADB and there are a number of permission groups that are android.xxxxx. However there are only a few permission groups that are amazon.xxxxx one of which is amazon.permission-group.settings. Listing the settings in the group shows a large list. Maybe using ADB pm grant com.amazon.device.settings the correct permissions could unlock this? Thoughts?
Here's what I got from a logcat when I click on the shortcut in novalauncher:
I/ActivityManager( 454): START u0 {act=android.intent.action.VIEW flg=0x1000000
0 cmp=com.amazon.device.settings/.DevoProdConfigActivity bnds=[300,168][400,310]
} from uid 10017 on display 0
W/ActivityManager( 454): Permission Denial: starting Intent { act=android.inten
t.action.VIEW flg=0x10000000 cmp=com.amazon.device.settings/.DevoProdConfigActiv
ity bnds=[300,168][400,310] } from ProcessRecord{9460965 1138:com.teslacoilsw.la
uncher/u0a17} (pid=1138, uid=10017) requires com.amazon.dcp.permission.DISPLAY_D
EBUG_UI
E/Launcher( 1138): Launcher does not have the permission to launch Intent { act=
android.intent.action.VIEW flg=0x10000000 cmp=com.amazon.device.settings/.DevoPr
odConfigActivity bnds=[300,168][400,310] }. Make sure to create a MAIN intent-fi
lter for the corresponding activity or use the exported attribute for this activ
ity. tag=ShortcutInfo(title=Prod and Devo Switch intent=#Intent;launchFlags=0x10
000000;component=com.amazon.device.settings/.DevoProdConfigActivity;sourceBounds
=300%20168%20400%20310;end id=15 type=Shortcut container=-100 screen=1 rank=-1 c
ellX=3.0 cellY=1.0 spanX=1.0 spanY=1.0 dropPos=null user=UserHandle{0} modelGene
ration=-1) intent=Intent { act=android.intent.action.VIEW flg=0x10000000 cmp=com
.amazon.device.settings/.DevoProdConfigActivity bnds=[300,168][400,310] }
E/Launcher( 1138): java.lang.SecurityException: Permission Denial: starting Inte
nt { act=android.intent.action.VIEW flg=0x10000000 cmp=com.amazon.device.setting
s/.DevoProdConfigActivity bnds=[300,168][400,310] } from ProcessRecord{9460965 1
138:com.teslacoilsw.launcher/u0a17} (pid=1138, uid=10017) requires com.amazon.dc
p.permission.DISPLAY_DEBUG_UI
Tried granting that specific permission to Nova launcher or the Fire launcher but both do the same thing:
com.amazon.firelauncher com.amazon.dcp.permission.DISPLAY_DEBUG_UI <
Operation not allowed: java.lang.SecurityException: Package com.amazon.firelaunc
her has not requested permission com.amazon.dcp.permission.DISPLAY_DEBUG_UI
Maybe someone with more knowledge than I create a program with that permission that calls the intent in question?
Again good work on this
I picked up another new device yesterday morning. OTA updates disabled, Fire OS 5.0, no association to Amazon and connectivity via WiFi. Just like you I got Gmail, YouTube and other Google associated apps to work with the exception of the Play store. It finally let me sign in but comes up every time with the [Connection Retry] error.
I followed your instructions and installed AnyCut - and I have been playing around as I thought it might be possible by using shortcuts to load my Google account onto the device.
Shortcut [Add an account] - and the "Couldn't sign in - google server error" came back so not working for now.
Shortcut [Testing] - allows us to pull up more info on the Fire 7 with the 4 below options
Tablet Information - not working
Battery Information - working
Usage Statistics - working
WiFi Information - working
Shortcut [IP Settings] - gives us advanced WiFi options
A lot of the options try to load or there is a visible presence of starting to load and you can clearly see the device stopping them from loading. Basically we are trying to load Android Apps that are locked down by Fire OS which sits on top of Android.
Other apps with Permission Denied
[Log Manager]
[Crash Manager]
[Metrics Debug UI]
Looks like Amazon do not want us to have access to their inbuilt log files on their device
As I do not have access to Google store I have been using F-Droid for my apps. I have installed APK Extractor and it lists all the current APK's on the Fire 7. What is interesting about this is that there are APK's that where not findable using [AnyCut] but show up in APK Extractor.
Will update more in a bit
Here's an interesting note..... I'm on 5.0.0 and trying to get the Play Store working (I believe that 5.0.0 w/ Play Store is a better avenue to attack than trying to fix the launcher in 5.0.1)
For testing reasons I'm on an older version of the Play Store where the search icon is visible.
On the play store screen where it says no connection with the retry button, I hit the search icon and start typing "clas" It autofilled in clash of clans. Then i did "hang" and I see hangouts dialer. The play store app is communicating it would seem.....
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Here's an interesting note..... I'm on 5.0.0 and trying to get the Play Store working (I believe that 5.0.0 w/ Play Store is a better avenue to attack than trying to fix the launcher in 5.0.1)
For testing reasons I'm on an older version of the Play Store where the search icon is visible.
On the play store screen where it says no connection with the retry button, I hit the search icon and start typing "clas" It autofilled in clash of clans. Then i did "hang" and I see hangouts dialer. The play store app is communicating it would seem.....
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What is the version of your Play APK please? As I have the latest version with no search - but still on 5.0.0
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What is the version of your Play APK please? As I have the latest version with no search - but still on 5.0.0
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I'm trying all kinds, the one i was using for that test I got here:
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?res...4&authkey=!AIVXLFXAOWDeM0Q&ithint=folder,.apk
I'm with you I tried some work arounds on the 5.0.1 tablet but if we can get the play store working on 5.0.0 it seems to offer more opportunities.
Yep same here - it makes more sense to get Play store to work.
I think I might know what the issue is causing and I believe it is down to the Google Service Framework (GSF) on 5.0 not installing correctly and causing the sync issue when trying to connect. I installed [Device ID] app on 5.0 and there is no serial listed for GSF at all - on my 5.1 tablet GSF would load up on the screen and you could view settings but on 5.0 it does not.
When trying to open the Google Play some I found the following error in Logcat [.onClick: b/5160617: Reinitialize account] this relates to the GSF serial not being present. Logs also show permissions and api errors as well. The only
Looking into a GSF workaround if possible. It might be on the wrong track but I am going to see what else I can find out.
I thought I had found a back door into Google signin. Using an App calling [Applications Info] which I used to pull up the GoogleServiceFframework apk. From there I started to play around with the launch options for the applicable services.
Selecting launch on [Legal Services] takes you to Google Sign In - keyboard was not working for this so I had to adb shell input text of my gmail & password. Unfortunately the same old Google error was appearing even after I cleared the cache and re-installed Gapps.
The last screengrab shows that the System Updates on installed Google Service Framework is corrupt and not working properly. I have also launched other Gapps dependent activities from the services in [App Info] and again they either fail to load of abundance of errors. So installation issues for all of the Gapps in one way or another on Fire 5.0
Obviously there is a difference between the 5.0 Rom + 5.01 Rom that is stopping Gapps from working. Due to the amount of errors in Logcat and in Application Info and dependent services not working. My gut is saying that when we have root on 5.0 we have a better chance of getting Gapps working as we will have the ability to play around with not only System files but System commands too.
If anyone has any ideas or what else we could try please chip in.
rivethead23 said:
Hook the Fire up to your computer and do the following commands:
adb shell pm hide com.amazon.otaverifier
adb shell pm hide com.amazon.device.software.ota
adb shell pm hide com.amazon.settings.systemupdates
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running those commands will prevent any future update?
Right now I have 5.0.1 and I'm happy with it, I would like to avoid any bad surprises.
redst said:
running those commands will prevent any future update?
Right now I have 5.0.1 and I'm happy with it, I would like to avoid any bad surprises.
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yes updates would be blocked until you run the unhide commands.
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***This will NOT work on FireOS 5.4.0.1 If your device hasn't updated to that version, it is advisable to IMMEDIATELY 'uninstall' DeviceSoftwareOTA.apk.***
I can confirm this is working on the Fire HD 8 . Here is the article from XDA with detailed instructions for newbies. Like all other hacks or tricks, I cannot be held responsible for any possible permanent damage you may cause to your devices.
**NOTE**
A factory rest will restore all SYSTEM/Amazon apps you 'uninstalled.' So if you mess your tablet, you can at least start over.
**WARNINGS**
1) If you plan on installing 3rd party apps to replace the Amazon apps you uninstalled, please install and setup your 3rd party apps BEFORE uninstalling Amazon apps. In many cases, installing replacement apps after the uninstalling of Amazon apps, causes some 3rd party apps to malfunction. You will then have to uninstall the 3rd party app or do a reset. Once you uninstall an Amazon app, you CANNOT install it again. Not even from the Google Play Store. The only way to restore any uninstalled system apps is to do a factory reset.
2) Uninstalling Fire Launcher, Retail Demo, and the Oobe settings apps, *WILL* disable your home button. If you uninstall any parental controls, your camera picture roll will not work. Recommend installing replacement camera and gallery before uninstalling Amazon's. As of July 27, 2017 9:20am a *pre uninstall* fix exists to make sure your home button stays functional. If you already uninstalled the apps listed in the following link, you will have to perform a reset and download the tool linked just below, or if you prefer manually uninstalling the apps, *avoid uninstalling*: com.amazon.kor.demo, com.amazon.firelauncher and com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe. You can also edit the tool's .bat to keep the apps you want. This link lists all the apps you can uninstall, that will NOT affect the home button. The three listed at the top should NOT be uninstalled.
** Gloating **
1) A tool has been created that allows this process to happen automatically. A huge thanks to 'savvytechwinner' for helping for months to get us to this stage and an even bigger thanks for creating the tool, something I have no idea how to do.
2) A little gloating: We've scored a great write up on Liliputing!
You can use an app like App Inspector to view the package name of each app, rather than list all of them in a shell window. Nonetheless, I kept the list command in the code.
Here you go:
Code:
adb shell
$ pm list packages
$ pm uninstall -k --user 0 <name of package>
Example: (this removes Amazon video)
Code:
adb shell
$ pm list packages
$ pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.avod
Success
Why do you keep the data and cache directories?
This is a good thing, however, as it means that these applications truly aren’t being uninstalled from the device, they are just being uninstalled for the current user (user 0 is the default/main user of the phone). That’s why, if you omit the “–user 0” and “-k” part of the command, the command won’t work. These two commands respectively specify that the system app will only be uninstalled for the current user (and not all users, which is something that requires root access) and that the cache/data of the system application will be preserved (which can’t be removed without root access). Therefore, even if you “uninstall” a system application using this method, you can still receive official OTA updates from your carrier or OEM.
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Source: https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/
Hallo32 said:
Why do you keep the data and cache directories?
Source: https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/
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Fine by me. I wonder if the same method can be applied to install apps and if so, into system? This could be the chance to replace Amazon's apps with forever broken ones while we can, if possible.
Work on my Fire 7" Gen7 with 5.4.0.0.
Thank You!
DragonFire1024 said:
Fine by me. I wonder if the same method can be applied to install apps and if so, into system? This could be the chance to replace Amazon's apps with forever broken ones while we can, if possible.
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Into system should not be possible, because you need root rights to mount /system as write able.
Hasn't there been a few tries to install modified Amazon apps which are broken? I think I have read there something on xda.
--> Firelauncher aplk https://forum.xda-developers.com/am...-remove-default-launcher-amazon-fire-t3288310
Hallo32 said:
Into system should not be possible, because you need root rights to mount /system as write able.
Hasn't there been a few tries to install modified Amazon apps which are broken? I think I have read there something on xda.
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Yes. Another member and I have been trying to do just that. We've been trying to modify Amazon apps to either bring out block parts of that APKs software, or stop the apps from functioning at all. The closest I got was somehow managing to delete all User AND system app data and storage. Great eh? I thought so too. Until I realized I couldn't download or install anything. I tried, but haven't been able to repeat the process. So far that's as far as we've gotten.
Hallo32 said:
Into system should not be possible, because you need root rights to mount /system as write able.
Hasn't there been a few tries to install modified Amazon apps which are broken? I think I have read there something on xda.
--> Firelauncher aplk https://forum.xda-developers.com/am...-remove-default-launcher-amazon-fire-t3288310
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That works to an extent. I tried it, replacing launcher with whatever Amazon app. It uninstalls it, but then is immediately reinstalled to another folder...usually from /system/priv-app/ to /data/app and with a different name. Though this might have been how I got all app and system app data erased...by screwing around with the DeviceOTA apk.
See edit above. ^^
But what does this mean in relation to the ota apps? Are the ota updates also deactivated?
Hallo32 said:
See edit above. ^^
But what does this mean in relation to the ota apps? Are the ota updates also deactivated?
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I would've presumed that to be a yes, given nothing could be downloaded and or installed anymore. Everything worked fine aside from that and being able to uninstall apps. What little bit I could find on the web, no one mentioned the cause and most of them ended up with permanently damaged internal SD cards. I waited a few days after posting a thread and no one replied. So I factory reset it and everything was fine again. I wish I could repeat it.
Can we disable "special offers" using this method? Or is that part of the launcher?
If we "uninstall" the launcher, will it ask if you want to use a different installed launcher to map to the home button?
deepdvd said:
Can we disable "special offers" using this method? Or is that part of the launcher?
If we "uninstall" the launcher, will it ask if you want to use a different installed launcher to map to the home button?
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I did special offers. Haven't tried the launcher yet.
DragonFire1024 said:
I did special offers. Haven't tried the launcher yet.
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Does it actually remove them from the lock screen or just make the app not work?
deepdvd said:
Does it actually remove them from the lock screen or just make the app not work?
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I don't know. I didn't have the ads.
on my kindle fire 7 on 5.3.2.1, this gives the error Failure [DELETE_FAILED_INTERNAL_ERROR].
EDIT: nevermind, i must have missed a step
I have removed most user facing apps. i have not tried the launcher or appstore.
I can confirm that you can remove everything whisperplay and the stock fire keyboard. I install the gboard before i removed the fire keyboard. I have rebooted after removing this.
Does anyone have more than their own profile on their tablet? I'm wondering if this extends to all profiles. So far, Nova, Activity Launcher, Brevent And NetGuard all say all the Amazon apps I uninstalled are gone. Has anyone tried root after nuking Amazon?
If you keep blocking individual Amazon IP addresses like I do with NetGuard, I'd keep a few apps. As long as one app keeps blocking IPs, then your firewall will still work. Otherwise I'm not sure how to block incoming connections.
Is there a list of packages which can be removed without problems?
I will need to restart from a factory reset because now the launcher crashes happily a few times after closing an app.
Hallo32 said:
Is there a list of packages which can be removed without problems?
I will need to restart from a factory reset because now the launcher crashes happily a few times after closing an app.
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This will list all installed packages. I'm not sure if a safe list has yet been made.
Code:
adb shell
$ pm list packages
It will be a long list. Remove at YOUR own risk. One person's safe list may not be the same as yours.
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This will list all installed packages. I'm not sure if a safe list has yet been made.
It will be a long list. Remove at YOUR own risk. One person's safe list may not be the same as yours.
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I've removed quite a bit so far, appstore, freetime, kindle store and app, content management because Amazon has no right to manage any of my content, managed provisions though I'm not sure that did anything, video and Amazon shopping, and a few others i can't recall at this moment. I am hoping removing prime photos later will allow me to use live wallpapers.
If this is the closest we ever get to root or a custom rom, I don't think we could've asked for something better.
@DragonFire1024
You may mention at the first post, that a factory reset will bring back the automatic update stuff if the method has been used to deactivate it.
Worst case:
* factory reset
* enable wlan conection
* tablet gets updates and installs them
I ordered the phone from Banggood and plan to use it as a media/gaming device. But I hate LeEco bloatware. My mom's Le 2 is full of it and it's really hampering performance.
Anyway, I figure I can remove all the LeEco apps and services using this simple ADB command:
pm uninstall -k --user 0 <name of package> Do not use this command unless you know exactly which apps to uninstall. If you uninstall certain apps, other apps may stop working. Use pm disable instead, and pm enable to enable apps if something stops working.
Or simply disabling them with the other command (pm disable (package name)).
My question is, does this work on the Le Pro 3 or has Le prevented users from doing so completely? I don't want to root to do this (and then unroot afterwards because I need SafetyNet) because too many people seem to be having issues unlocking the bootloader and rooting here. Don't want to take any chances. I plan on staying on Banggood's vendor ROM forever because, as I said, this is just gonna be a gaming device.
Is it safe to do this, or will LeEco/Banggood ROM throw some idiotic error my way and cause my phone to stop working the moment I reboot it. And has anyone debloated their phone using ADB alone?
Thanks!
Okay, so I tried the "pm uninstall" command with my mom's Le 2 and managed to uninstall A LOT of LeTV bloatware. Still shows up in App management though, but as 0 bytes and as "Not installed for this user". Good riddance. Hopefully I'll be able to do the same with my phone. Then again, the ROMs are different despite being the same version (5.8), since one is Indian and the other will be a Chinese vendor ROM.
Could you help with the procedure?
I have a 727 and also want to stay with a stock rom but want to disable all the Leco TV stuff, care to give any pointers?
Thanks.
bethe said:
Could you help with the procedure?
I have a 727 and also want to stay with a stock rom but want to disable all the Leco TV stuff, care to give any pointers?
Thanks.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/le...co-spyware-t3503389/post69712213#post69712213
Basically, just enable USB Debugging and download platform-tools package from somewhere. It's the simple version of the Android SDK. Then connect your phone, enable "trust this computer" on your phone (you'll get a pop-up), then use the Windows or Linux command prompt to enter into the platform-tools directory and start disabling or "uninstalling" apps. List all your packages first using pm list packages
Now, I'm not sure the apps are completely uninstalled using the pm uninstall command. I would not recommend uninstalling apps unless you're sure that the system doesn't rely on them. For example, I idiotically uninstalled some LeTV apps that Facebook, Gmail, and the Google app require on my mom's Le 2 and now she's pissed off at me because none of those apps work. :laugh: I hope they can be restored using pm restore or I'll have to factory reset the phone.
Only use the pm disable command.
The apps will be disabled even after reboot, so no worries. Just make sure you don't update the phone if you ever mysteriously receive an update.
Okay, so using the pm uninstall command? Bad move. Very, very bad move. It turns out that all apps that use Google services on my mom's phone were affected. They all just stopped responding. Eventually Google Account Management itself stopped working, along with the Play Store. Kept getting the "There's a problem with Google servers, try again later" with all Google apps. No amount of data clearing or APK installing worked. I had to backup and factory reset her phone, which was no easy feat without Google Drive (looking at you, Whatsapp) and thank god, all the uninstalled apps came back. Thought I'd borked the system partition for good.
So yeah, never do what I did. ALWAYS USE THE PM DISABLE COMMAND. LeTV bloatware is tied into Google services, unlike other phones. Let this be a lesson to all.
Funnily enough, I use the pm uninstall command freely on my Moto X without issue. Then again, I'm running stock with no Le bloat, just Google bloat.
Could you list the apps that are safe to disable then?
Much appreciated.
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Could you list the apps that are safe to disable then?
Much appreciated.
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Check the link I left in my other post. It's the apps list for the x720 or some other Le phone, can't remember.
OK, a lttle more help please.
Here's the list:
Code:
[email protected] ~> adb shell pm list packages -d
package:com.letv.android.FuseWire
package:com.letv.android.quicksearchbox
package:com.letv.android.agent
package:com.letv.android.zxing
package:com.letv.android.account
package:com.letv.android.wallpaper
package:com.letv.android.wallpaperonline
package:com.letv.leui.sdk.data
package:com.letv.android.letvlive
package:com.lesports.glivesports
package:com.letv.android.note
package:com.le.android.webview
package:com.letv.android.usermanual
package:com.letv.letvshop
package:com.android.browser
package:com.le.share.zl1
package:com.letv.android.personalized
package:com.baidu.input_letv
package:com.letv.app.appstore
package:com.stv.stvpush
package:com.android.mms
package:com.letv.android.backup
package:com.letv.android.client
package:com.letv.android.setupwizard
package:com.android.calendar
package:com.letv.android.backupclient
package:com.letv.walletbiz
package:com.android.VRAdmin
package:com.letv.gallery3d.syncservice
package:com.lvr.wizzard
package:com.android.gallery3d
package:com.letv.agnes
package:com.letv.games
package:com.letv.wihd
package:com.letv.lesophoneclient
package:com.letv.android.fannation
package:com.letv.android.bugreporter
package:com.letv.android.accountinfo
package:com.letv.wallet
package:com.letv.android.filemanager
package:com.letv.android.cloudservice
package:com.android.music
package:sina.mobile.tianqitongletv
package:com.letv.android.videoplayer
package:com.sohu.inputmethod.sogou.leshi
Could you tell me what the -d parameter does?
On my phone when i type it at the end of "pm list packages " command it will list only one package ( some google notifier or such).
But when I do " pm list packages " it does list them all .
Also how do you use "pm disable " ( you have to type "pm disable package:sina.mobiletianqitongletv " for example , and repeat for all the packages that you want to remove ? ) or there is a easier way ?
I understand that you should disable all the "com.letv.xxxxxx " packages but how about these:
package:com.android.mms
package:com.android.browser
package:com.android.music
Should I disable these too? It seems not right , I need to use mms, browser, music etc..
adb shell pm disable (insert package name like com.letv.example). Don't disable anything the spyware list (link in my second response) doesn't list.
Unfortunately I get an error when I type this command : "1|[email protected]_zl1:/ $ pm disable com.letv.android.zxing
Error: java.lang.SecurityException: Permission Denial: attempt to change component state from pid=18860, uid=2000, package uid=10087 "
What I'm doing wrong ?
Doesn't work even with --user 0 parameter " 1|[email protected]_zl1:/ $ pm disable --user 0 com.letv.android.FuseWire
Error: java.lang.SecurityException: Permission Denial: attempt to change component state from pid=22489, uid=2000, package uid=1000
1|[email protected]_zl1:/ $
Do I have to root the phone?
Looks like the disable command doesn't work, I tried uninstall ant that works.
The proper syntax is : pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.letv.example
bethe said:
Looks like the disable command doesn't work, I tried uninstall ant that works.
The proper syntax is : pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.letv.example
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You should never use the uninstall command unless you're prepared to factory reset your phone if you accidentally uninstall a core service.
I'm surprised that pm disable doesn't work, since it worked for everyone in that LeEco spyware thread. Maybe the new models are different because they're running ROMs that prevent it, which sucks.
I dont know how to disable them, for me the disable command allways errors out.
Anyway I compared list that you linkd with list of the packages on my 727 at eui 021s, here are packages from your list that are also listed in my phone:
Code:
[B][I]package:com.letv.android.FuseWire
package:com.letv.android.agent
package:com.letv.android.zxing
package:com.letv.android.account
package:com.letv.android.wallpaper
package:com.letv.leui.sdk.data
package:com.letv.android.letvlive
package:com.letv.android.note
package:com.le.android.webview
package:com.le.share.zl1
package:com.letv.android.backup
package:com.letv.android.setupwizard
package:com.letv.android.backupclient
package:com.letv.gallery3d.syncservice
package:com.letv.agnes
package:com.letv.wihd
package:com.letv.lesophoneclient
package:com.letv.android.fannation
package:com.letv.android.bugreporter
package:com.letv.android.accountinfo
package:com.letv.android.filemanager
package:com.letv.android.cloudservice
package:com.letv.android.videoplayer[/I][/B]
Since I will have to use uninstall on them, are you sure that the're safe to uninstall? You wrote that you had some issues with google services, account management etc., did you uninstall some other packages or only these above?
bethe said:
I dont know how to disable them, for me the disable command allways errors out.
Anyway I compared list that you linkd with list of the packages on my 727 at eui 021s, here are packages from your list that are also listed in my phone:
Code:
[B][I]package:com.letv.android.FuseWire
package:com.letv.android.agent
package:com.letv.android.zxing
package:com.letv.android.account
package:com.letv.android.wallpaper
package:com.letv.leui.sdk.data
package:com.letv.android.letvlive
package:com.letv.android.note
package:com.le.android.webview
package:com.le.share.zl1
package:com.letv.android.backup
package:com.letv.android.setupwizard
package:com.letv.android.backupclient
package:com.letv.gallery3d.syncservice
package:com.letv.agnes
package:com.letv.wihd
package:com.letv.lesophoneclient
package:com.letv.android.fannation
package:com.letv.android.bugreporter
package:com.letv.android.accountinfo
package:com.letv.android.filemanager
package:com.letv.android.cloudservice
package:com.letv.android.videoplayer[/I][/B]
Since I will have to use uninstall on them, are you sure that the're safe to uninstall? You wrote that you had some issues with google services, account management etc., did you uninstall some other packages or only these above?
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I was only uninstalling LeTV apps, but on an Le2, so the apps were different. And I must have accidentally disabled a package that managed Google services because all Google apps stopped working and I had to reset the phone. Anyway, it's good to know that the pm disable command doesn't work... which is surprising. I hope it'll work on mine when I receive it. I guess I'm ok with uninstalling the apps, the only problem being that issues may pop up down the road and if something goes wrong I'll have to factory reset the phone.
I uninstalled all the packages on the list that I posted before, will report how it goes.
One thing annoys me though, the LeView screen when you swipe right is still there, how do I disable this thing?
Here's a list of the remaining packages that I found on my phone with the Letv in the name:
Code:
[B][I]package:com.uei.quicksetsdk.letv
package:com.letv.android.theme
package:com.letv.leui.schpwronoff
package:com.letv.android.letvsafe
package:com.letv.internationalsarrs
package:com.letv.android.themesettings
package:com.letv.wihd.sample
package:com.letv.android.remotecontrol
package:com.letv.android.remotedevice
package:com.letv.android.recorder
package:com.letv.bugpostbox
package:com.letv.android.compass
package:com.letv.domain
package:com.letv.android.supermanager
package:com.letv.android.powercontroller
package:com.letv.android.DebugUtils
package:com.irtest.letv
package:com.letv.factorymode
package:com.letv.android.StateInfo
package:com.letv.android.ecoProvider
package:com.letv.android.emojistore
package:com.letv.leui.colormode
package:com.letv.android.privacydata
package:com.letv.bsp.qccrashhandler
package:com.letv.android.ota
package:com.letv.android.LetvShareProvider
package:com.letv.android.phonecontrol
package:com.letv.android.euitransfer[/I][/B]
Any suggestions what is safe to uninstall from here?
Also I did'n uninstall any of these:
Code:
[B][I]package:com.android.browser
package:com.stv.stvpush
package:com.android.mms
package:com.android.calendar
package:com.android.gallery3d
package:com.android.music[/I][/B]
Just didn't seem right, what do you thing?
Um, leave all that stuff. Especially com.letv.android.ecoProvider, which will break everything if you uninstall it.
My mom's Le2 lets me disable and enable apps and uninstall them, so it's weird that other LeEco phones don't allow that. I guess it's due to official versus vendor ROMs. My mom's phone has the official Indian Le2 ROM from Flipkart. The thread I linked (https://forum.xda-developers.com/le...co-spyware-t3503389/post69712213#post69712213) asks users to use the pm disable command, so it's supposed to work. But I guess the x727's Chinese/vendor ROM (I assume you're not running a custom ROM) prevents disabling apps. I had the same issue with my ASUS Zenfone 3 where I couldn't disable anything via ADB due to the same error message you got. Really lame
One thing annoys me though, the LeView screen when you swipe right is still there, how do I disable this thing?
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IDK what that is. I'll have to check my mom's phone again. Just look for the package name using pm list packages. You're bound to find something.
So far so good, I don't see any problems after uninstaling these apps.
Google apps are working, camera works as before, apps like Viber or Skype also OK.
Let me know if you want to try anything specific.
hi
bethe said:
So far so good, I don't see any problems after uninstaling these apps.
Google apps are working, camera works as before, apps like Viber or Skype also OK.
Let me know if you want to try anything specific.
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Uninstalling LeEcoProvider didn't bork anything for you? Huh. I'll have to do some testing with my phone when it comes in a few weeks to see how much crap I can remove and get away with.
Edit: solved
I rooted and wiped the phone. Installed Lineage and PicoGapps and the LTE fix. Perfection. Highly recommend this delight of a phone. ?
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Sorry if this has been answered but I'm using the XDA app traveling and can't seem to find it. I purchased the $50 Moto e4 boost version from Best buy and no matter what I do, I can't seem to permanently disable amazon apps.
I disable them and when I restart the device, low and behold they are back again. Is there a way to disable these apps permanently through ADB or some other jazz? Or should I just root?
cameroncr95 said:
Sorry if this has been answered but I'm using the XDA app traveling and can't seem to find it. I purchased the $50 Moto e4 boost version from Best buy and no matter what I do, I can't seem to permanently disable amazon apps.
I disable them and when I restart the device, low and behold they are back again. Is there a way to disable these apps permanently through ADB or some other jazz? Or should I just root?
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Yeah, ya gotta root and delete them from the oem partition if you want them completely gone. But you should be able to disable them with adb without root.
adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 "package name"
Without quotes and where package name is the actual package name.
Usually disabling them in settings/apps (show system) will disable them until you re enable them yourself.
Strangely I disable them and they re enable themselves upon boot up. Not sure why. Usually most phones you disable apps and they stay disabled. Clearly something is installed by boost that makes them reenable.
Thanks, I will try ADB.
madbat99 said:
Yeah, ya gotta root and delete them from the oem partition if you want them completely gone. But you should be able to disable them with adb without root.
adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 "package name"
Without quotes and where package name is the actual package name.
Usually disabling them in settings/apps (show system) will disable them until you re enable them yourself.
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Sorry for the Ninja double reply.
I have managed to disable via your method several apps except for three: boost zone, boost Mobile I'd and mobile installer. These are the apps causing the phone upon restart to redownload bloatware and enable disabled bloatware. When I try disabling them via adb, it simply says failure. Do disabling these require root?
cameroncr95 said:
Sorry for the Ninja double reply.
I have managed to disable via your method several apps except for three: boost zone, boost Mobile I'd and mobile installer. These are the apps causing the phone upon restart to redownload bloatware and enable disabled bloatware. When I try disabling them via adb, it simply says failure. Do disabling these require root?
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Probably. It's mobile ID that changes the home screens around. It usually doesn't install anything except for home screen shortcuts. I wasnt able to disable that one without root. try using a different launcher ( I use nova). Zone let's you check for prl and profile updates, and I pay my bill in it (virgin mobile).
Update:
I followed a guide online and unlocked the boot, installed twrp and rooted the phone. Removed boosts pre installed Android version because no matter what tool I used I couldn't delete their apps. So I installed lineageOS. Having issues with 4G and can only get 3g.
cameroncr95 said:
Update:
I followed a guide online and unlocked the boot, installed twrp and rooted the phone. Removed boosts pre installed Android version because no matter what tool I used I couldn't delete their apps. So I installed lineageOS. Having issues with 4G and can only get 3g.
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Yeah that's a well documented problem on CDMA carriers. A few ppl are working on it. There is a sort of fix if you check the guides, news section.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3752036&p=75622014
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Yeah that's a well documented problem on CDMA carriers. A few ppl are working on it. There is a sort of fix if you check the guides, news section.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3752036&p=75622014
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Thank you. This is an annoying issue because I pay for 4g and hotspot support and unfortunately the hotspot only gets dialup speeds.
cameroncr95 said:
Thank you. This is an annoying issue because I pay for 4g and hotspot support and unfortunately the hotspot only gets dialup speeds.
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We all do dude.(pay for lte) But LTE is fairly broken on sprint and all it's mvno's (boost, virgin, etc.)on custom roms. You can try the fix but no guarantees. Only sure way is stock. I've debloated stock, and using Xposed with gravitybox. All the customization I need. And everything works. All bloat can be removed. Most of it is /oem, that's why root apps don't get rid of it. Some things in /system are required to keep it running.
Root the device, backup the apps with Titanium Backup, Freeze the apps and see if there are any behavioral issues with them, and remove them if freezing them doesn't yield error.
As for the Data issues you are experiencing, check out this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-e4/how-to/perry-real-lte-fix-custom-roms-t3752036
I plan on testing this with the rom you have on Boost Mobile as soon as it's done downloading.
Hi to everyone, i'm new with adb and all this things, but not new on modding my phone throw custom recovery.
I have a fossil gen5, and I was trying to install ticwatch apps throw adb by pushing the apk in the storage of my watch and then install them. Some apps i installed them, like ticsleep and ticpulse, but tichealt was showing like i have it already on my watch, so I googled and find that i had to de-bloat my watch because of this ****ty apps. So i was trying some guide, but all of the guides was showing that i had to use "pm uninstall --user 0 com.mobvoi.wear.health.aw" all fine, if it goes well, but it doesn't, my error is "Failure not installed for 0". So i pm the enabled and disabled packages, and they don't figured out in this list, but usign "adb -s 192.168.1.24:5555 shell pm list packages -u" they shows up... My guess is, what can I do? I really want to remove this apps from my watch!
I tried to do the same, but noticed that article is a couple years old, and all the apps he warns against are not in the newest version of the Gen 5 (I have a Carlyle HR a few days old now).
So it seems they already debloated possibly to improve battery life in the long run.
I mainly did the steps to turn off things like tilt to wake etc etc.
Long story short, that guide you're referring to is outdated and no longer relevant because you'll notice none of those apps are present on the installed package list.
Ps the way I did it, since the watch can connect to wifi and have wireless debugging, I just connected adb direct to the watch rather than going thru the phone.