Newbie needs advice Lineage w Gapps or Micro G - OnePlus 6T Questions & Answers

I am assuming Lineage w Micro G will be released soon since an official Lineage has been released.
Based on your experience which should I install? I want to delete Google from my phone but a few of my apps I have to have rely of Google services.
My inclination is MicroG to have the least Google on my phone but I thought I would ask you guys.
Thanks in advance, JC

PattayaGlock said:
I am assuming Lineage w Micro G will be released soon since an official Lineage has been released.
Based on your experience which should I install? I want to delete Google from my phone but a few of my apps I have to have rely of Google services.
My inclination is MicroG to have the least Google on my phone but I thought I would ask you guys.
Thanks in advance, JC
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Microg is always with less Google spyware than gapps.
You have to check if all your apps, which rely on Google network, are working fine.
Especially apps which push notifications or messages. Probably you have to sacrifice some comfort for more privacy.

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{GIUDE} HYDROGEN OS 3.0 [Oneplus 3/3T] Installation/ Quick guide

An update to the H2OS out after a long time. The alternative ROM for the OnePlus devices is now updated to the version 3.0. The Hydrogen OS is mostly designed for the Chinese variants of the Oneplus devices. However, the H2OS 3.0 can also be installed on a regular or international variant of the OnePlus 3 and the OnePlus 3T. The ROM brings many new features.
As the Hydrogen OS is a firmware for the Chinese variant, it doesn’t come with the Google Apps pre-installed. You will need to install it separately. Fortunately, we already have a Google play store installed APK which can easily install the Google Play Services onto your Android device.
***IMPORTANT***
BACKUP DATA
Downloads:
ROM ONEPLUS 3T:
http://otafsc.h2os.com/patch/CHN/On...ydrogen_28_OTA_036_all_1702082007_3786c5e.zip
ROM ONEPLUS 3:
http://otafsc1.h2os.com/patch/CHN/O...Hydrogen_16_OTA_036_all_1702081955_c3cb36.zip
Google Apps:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6pQCizpnzoET2NaY1hXODNMOEk/view
Google Play store:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6pQCizpnzoES3FrM0hBYTNHQUk/view
Google play services:
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google...-030-146496160-android-apk-download/download/
Instructions:
1.Backup device
2.Enter twrp
3.Wipe Data factory reset
4.Flash Rom.
5.Reboot.
I have not Rooted ill make an video On Rooting H2o.
Source:
https://www.androidsage.com/2017/02/17/install-hydrogen-os-3-0-for-oneplus-33t-download-links/
VIDEO:
https://youtu.be/B21em3jgzCA
Any changelog?
ashokmor007 said:
An update to the H2OS out after a long time. The alternative ROM for the OnePlus devices is now updated to the version 3.0. The Hydrogen OS is mostly designed for the Chinese variants of the Oneplus devices. However, the H2OS 3.0 can also be installed on a regular or international variant of the OnePlus 3 and the OnePlus 3T. The ROM brings many new features.
As the Hydrogen OS is a firmware for the Chinese variant, it doesn’t come with the Google Apps pre-installed. You will need to install it separately. Fortunately, we already have a Google play store installed APK which can easily install the Google Play Services onto your Android device.
***IMPORTANT***
BACKUP DATA
Downloads:
ROM ONEPLUS 3T:
http://otafsc.h2os.com/patch/CHN/On...ydrogen_28_OTA_036_all_1702082007_3786c5e.zip
ROM ONEPLUS 3:
http://otafsc1.h2os.com/patch/CHN/O...Hydrogen_16_OTA_036_all_1702081955_c3cb36.zip
Google Apps:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6pQCizpnzoET2NaY1hXODNMOEk/view
Google Play store:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6pQCizpnzoES3FrM0hBYTNHQUk/view
Google play services:
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google...-030-146496160-android-apk-download/download/
Instructions:
1.Backup device
2.Enter twrp
3.Wipe Data factory reset
4.Flash Rom.
5.Reboot.
I have not Rooted ill make an video On Rooting H2o.
Source:
https://www.androidsage.com/2017/02/17/install-hydrogen-os-3-0-for-oneplus-33t-download-links/
VIDEO:
https://youtu.be/B21em3jgzCA
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Are these stable versions or beta versions ???
D0M1N13 said:
Are these stable versions or beta versions ???
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Stable
ashokmor007 said:
Stable
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Thanks dude ! Appreciate it !
Will all the US bands be enabled with Hydrogen OS?
Hi, can anyone using a US OnePlus 3T confirm whether the US version of OnePlus 3T with Hydrogen OS will have the exact same bands enabled as the US version using Oxygen OS? I want to be as Google-free as possible and starting with a manufacturer-supported Google-free ROM like H2OS sounds like a good way to go.
I'm open to other ways to accomplish this but simpler is better for me. Finally moving away from Windows Phone, and yes I know, why would you want Android if you don't want Google? Answer, pathetically trying to cling to ownership of my personal data and can't afford the next best OEM privacy option, the iPhone (which isn't a great privacy option either). Thx!
thph2006 said:
Hi, can anyone using a US OnePlus 3T confirm whether the US version of OnePlus 3T with Hydrogen OS will have the exact same bands enabled as the US version using Oxygen OS? I want to be as Google-free as possible and starting with a manufacturer-supported Google-free ROM like H2OS sounds like a good way to go.
I'm open to other ways to accomplish this but simpler is better for me. Finally moving away from Windows Phone, and yes I know, why would you want Android if you don't want Google? Answer, pathetically trying to cling to ownership of my personal data and can't afford the next best OEM privacy option, the iPhone (which isn't a great privacy option either). Thx!
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I've been down this path too many times. It's doable but not easy. First, scrap H2OS since Playstore is preinstalled. I'd go with either a lineage based Rom or Freedom OS (OOS with the option to leave all google and OP Apps out on Installation). Just don't flash Gapps after the Rom.
But thats really the easy part. The hard part is the setup. First, you'd need to sideload at least a browser. Get the browser apk of your choice from a reputable source (xda labs is great. It even manages Updates for you). Depending on the apps you need, you'll need some playstore alternative. Some things can be had through xda-labs. If Open Source is your thing, f-droid is great too. Just don't download apk's from somewhere on the web. Your privacy might be more at risk than with google on it.
Also, get a vcard backup of your contacts (or run your own carddav server). Finally, some apps simply won't run without google framework (that's why it's back on my phone). For example "Bring", a shopping list, won't run without google framework. Don't ask me why. But i need that app. Just be prepared for some major inconveniences, and having to find workarounds... :good:
Thanks for the great input domsch1988. You've given me exactly the tips I need to get started. One question though. You mentioned Playstore is preinstalled on H2OS. I was under the impression the main difference between H2OS and OOS was H2OS's removal of all Google specific stuff to meet China's Google restrictions. I assumed that included Playstore. Are you sure it's in there? I only ask because I'd rather start with a OnePlus supported ROM if I can but if that's not the case I'll take the leap and go with one of the ROMs you suggest. Can you recommend a lineage-based ROM I can start with? And, do you have an opinion on microG as a Play framework replacement? It seems like a good idea in theory but the way it's implemented gives me some security concerns.
thph2006 said:
Thanks for the great input domsch1988. You've given me exactly the tips I need to get started. One question though. You mentioned Playstore is preinstalled on H2OS. I was under the impression the main difference between H2OS and OOS was H2OS's removal of all Google specific stuff to meet China's Google restrictions. I assumed that included Playstore. Are you sure it's in there? I only ask because I'd rather start with a OnePlus supported ROM if I can but if that's not the case I'll take the leap and go with one of the ROMs you suggest. Can you recommend a lineage-based ROM I can start with? And, do you have an opinion on microG as a Play framework replacement? It seems like a good idea in theory but the way it's implemented gives me some security concerns.
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OP stated that PlayStore APK is preinstalled. I have not tried h2os, so can't say for sure. You could give it a try. And with root you can always uninstall system apps.
I never tried microg myself. For me it was always no g at all or the pico Gapps package.
As a lineage based ROM, on my note 4 resurrection remix was great. On the 3t I'm on stock oos, so not sure.
Play store or anything Google is not installed on H2OS
i am using it currently tried to go without play store and other apps for one day but couldn't deal with all the Chinese apps so, installed OOS although everything could have been installed on H2OS also.
Ok
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Question about Lineage MicroG Fork

Hello,
Is this Fork of Lineage Is considered trusted or safe? Lineage.Microg.org safe. I know that you can run MicroG with Official Lineage OS. But according to this site,
"you will probably miss something. In particular, you won't have the:
network localization services, which means that you can only use the GPS for the positioning
Google Cloud Messaging, so you won't receive any push notification for any app that relies on it
the Maps API, which means that any app that uses Google Maps through the Maps API will probably crash"
Was looking for a weigh in from Dev's/Security Pros
FettyWap said:
Hello, Is this Fork of Lineage Is considered trusted or safe? Lineage.Microg.org safe. I know that you can run MicroG with Official Lineage OS. But according to this site,...
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I don't use the MicroG but, you may be able to obtain some feedback regarding it within some of the other MicroG threads.
Here's just a few of them to help you get a start on some feedback.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3432360
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3217616
Good Luck!
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Reviving an old Nexus 7 2012 (Grouper)

Hello all!
I have been using my Nexus 7 (2012 Grouper) almost consistently ever since I bought it in early 2014. As with other users, I tried updating to Lollipop and Marshmallow, found them unusable slow, and rolled back to 4.4.4. I've been using 4.4.4 ever since but now with the core Google apps and play services getting heavier even 4.4.4 is becoming sluggish. I'm considering switching to a custom ROM such as Cyanogenmod, but to be honest I'm a little overwhelmed by all the content here on the XDA forums. Further complicating matters is the fact that apparently Cyanogenmod is no more - all links to Wiki and files are all dead.
So I guess my question is, whats a good, stable, light ROM available today that can will work for the Nexus7? I;m really only interested in using Chrome, and PDF readers on WiFi - I would not really care for NFC or even the camera.
Second, I have used ADB to lock / unlock bootloader and flash recovery images (from Google) before. What would be a good starting point to start reading about how to install TWRP (which most custom ROMs seem to require), enabling root, etc?
I recommend LineageOS 14.1 by @aaopt. Runs really smooth without gapps. I use yalp store to download the few apps I want on it.
Charles IV said:
I recommend LineageOS 14.1 by @aaopt. Runs really smooth without gapps. I use yalp store to download the few apps I want on it.
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Thanks @Charles IV! Especially for Yalp Store. I was concerned that the new Google Play Services would grind any OS into the ground.
Unfortunately I'm a noob at flashing custom ROMS. What is a good place to start reading about the process? I'm currently looking at the instructions for CyanogenMod but a lot of the links are either broken or incomplete now.
kab53t said:
Thanks @Charles IV! Especially for Yalp Store. I was concerned that the new Google Play Services would grind any OS into the ground.
Unfortunately I'm a noob at flashing custom ROMS. What is a good place to start reading about the process? I'm currently looking at the instructions for CyanogenMod but a lot of the links are either broken or incomplete now.
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look at the lineage wiki for any device, they are mostly the same, but sometimes different, so look at a nexus devices guide.
If you want ota updates as well, I've got a server running at download.charles-iv.uk, but beware that this is run from my pc so there might be a bit of downtime.
If you're not bothered, head over here once you're set up with twrp and all. Just beware @aaopt probably has real life stuff so updates won't be regular.
I put Unofficial Slimkat 9.2 on my son's grouper and he loves it. I has gapps included. Great for minecraft I'm told
I have nAOSP 7.1.1 on mine. If you want Play Services without lag, just download and flash the OpenGapps Pico zip onto your device, like I did. Still lags a little bit, but not as bad as Lollipop.

Cant login to Google after updating to LineageOs 15.1

Does anyone know how can i login to google after the latest lineageos (official) update?
i didnt even install magisk first cause i wanted to access my google account,
but then again i cant even access it normally.
i am using G900I (kltedv)
What exactly is the problem? Why can you not log into Google? I am using 15.1 KLTEDV and mine works fine.
The problem should be with the GAPPS, was there no error during install(dirty/clean), cos this happens only in serious cases, mostly people get the recurring Play Services error msg, if any.
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Does anyone know how can i login to google after the latest lineageos (official) update?.......
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Your best bet is to post this question within the following Official LineageOS thread that's specific to your device and variants.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3476433
Good Luck!
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a safe haven said:
Does anyone know how can i login to google after the latest lineageos (official) update?
i didnt even install magisk first cause i wanted to access my google account,
but then again i cant even access it normally.
i am using G900I (kltedv)
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I would just reflash gapps - Personally I always use the nano gapps as its the smallest whilst giving full functionality
If the problem persists clear the data of all google apps - eg google play services

Best stable ROM?

Hi all,
Sorry, I never know whether I should post this kind of thing in the General section or Troubleshooting...
I'm looking for up-to-date advice. What, in your opinion, is the most stable and smooth custom rom available. I'm looking for something as recent as possible, preferably Nougat +, but could be MM if necessary.
The phone is going to be used by my mother-in-law so doesn't need any fancy customization, just reliability and performance.
Thanks!! :good:
If you want something really stable with excellent camera go for munjenis nougat rom
colaigor said:
If you want something really stable with excellent camera go for munjenis nougat rom
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Thanks for that. I presume I can find that rom on xda?
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Is it this Lineage rom?:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/sony-xperia-z1-compact/development/rom-t3657384
Yup thats it
I used munjenis los 14.1 and switched to AICP 13.1 Oreo. It has up to date patches and is in my opinion currently the best up to date rom. Camera is also fine for me.
hi all! i tried oreo yesterday and all of google (esp. play store & play services) didn't work. tried older versions via apk but no success. without play store makes no sense. anyone an idea why it works for jho55 but not for me (d5503)? and jho55, why did you switch; only for newer version or other reasons? could you give me d/l link to the exact aicp rom u used? at aicp rom it says that there is an issue with oreo on z1c and video recording; does that work on your device? thx&greets, volkbaad
EDIT: found out myself now that i need gapps, too in order to take benefit of google. i work a lot on pc's but up to now not on android, esp. custom roms. it's a bit confusing at first sight; but i'm learning...
It is very important that you follow the instructions posted in the thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/so...development/rom-aicp-13-1-o8-1-amami-t3755554
I am using the rom because I want to have the newest security updates, a fresh android, root access(adblock, firewall). Video recording is working for me.
jho55 said:
It is very important that you follow the instructions posted in the thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/so...development/rom-aicp-13-1-o8-1-amami-t3755554
I am using the rom because I want to have the newest security updates, a fresh android, root access(adblock, firewall). Video recording is working for me.
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IT WORKS!!!
At first try I used GApps "super" (14.5.81; 900 MB) and guess I didn't clear all cache and data. This obviously ended up in a mess with old Google Play files and new OS. Second time I cleared system, data, cache and dalvik cache before flashing new ROM, rebooted into normal OS and back into (TWRP) recovery before I flashed GApps "micro" (14.8.xx; 300 MB). "Super" and "mini" had some apps which were unfunctional; and if included in package you cannot uninstall and manually reinstall them, so smaller GApps version is safer.
This time the new install became functional w/o any problem. There was even no need to search and installe older version of GApps, as reported elsewhere.
Maybe this is helpful for other Z1C owners. In the thread mentioned above seemingly not every necessary detail is mentioned.
I think the instructions are pretty straight forward from there it says "How to flash:".
I'm not decided yet. For me it's either AICP 13.1 (oreo) or 115ek's LineageOS 15.1 (Oreo). Both are very stable and suitable for every day useage. And they are maintained in regards to security updates
Pro AICP: some really nice features and add-ons (e.g. theming, nice recent apps solutions, extended phone settings and customizations etc.). Together with some optimzing apps (LSpeed, SysConfigPatcher) battery consumption is ok
Pro LOS 15.1: in my opinion a tad faster and and more efficient in reagrds to battery consumption; rather reduced, but I kind of like that
munjeni's LOS version is great (had that running for over a year) but a bit aged now
I've had LOS 14.1 installed for a while and it seems pretty good, however it seems to have some significant bugs. The big one is that Google Duo doesn't work properly- the mic doesn't work so calls are pointless. Dues anyone else have this problem? Or can anyone give me a ROM where Duo definitely works?
Mic volume in general is pretty quiet.
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