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S4 i9506 Snapdragon 800 chipset - any dev support?

After doing some research, it's likely that Samsung will release another S4 variant with Snapdragon 800 internationally. Currently, that top-of-the-line model is restricted to Korea, but i think that come IFA in September, things might change.
http://www.gsmarena.com/snapdragon_800_samsung_galaxy_s4_benchmarked_vs_octa_model-news-6284.php
There are already several sellers on eBay supplying the S800 version. For example:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Korea-Editi...1265240201?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item3cd49f3089
So, what do you guys think? Are we going to get dev support on that S800 if it's released internationally?
In case it's not released internationally, will XDA bother to create a developer forum for it (since quite a few people might be tempted to import their own S4 S800 from eBay sellers)?
My predictions for IFA 2013; Samsung will introduce Note 3 (nothing new here, as it's all been confimed with leaks) but then we might be surprised to find an international release for an S4 S800 variant as well as an S4 Active S800 variant.
electronical said:
After doing some research, it's likely that Samsung will release another S4 variant with Snapdragon 800 internationally. Currently, that top-of-the-line model is restricted to Korea, but i think that come IFA in September, things might change.
http://www.gsmarena.com/snapdragon_800_samsung_galaxy_s4_benchmarked_vs_octa_model-news-6284.php
There are already several sellers on eBay supplying the S800 version. For example:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Korea-Editi...1265240201?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item3cd49f3089
So, what do you guys think? Are we going to get dev support on that S800 if it's released internationally?
In case it's not released internationally, will XDA bother to create a developer forum for it (since quite a few people might be tempted to import their own S4 S800 from eBay sellers)?
My predictions for IFA 2013; Samsung will introduce Note 3 (nothing new here, as it's all been confimed with leaks) but then we might be surprised to find an international release for an S4 S800 variant as well as an S4 Active S800 variant.
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I think yes, but for gn3 I prefer t4, because is more Power. Rumors said, 3g=exynos 5420 4g=s800
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I was just about to make this thread, I'm glad someone is having the same thoughts as me.
Yeah I'm somewhat worried about the recent news regarding the AOSP maintainer who recently resigned over Qualcomm being extremely protective over the GPU driver sources for the new Nexus 7. Correct me if I'm wrong, but so far haven't Qualcomm been very good to the developer community regarding source code etc?
With the Snapdragon 600 version of the S4, there is always the Google version to fall back on. I remember having the first SGS and having a Nexus device (I know the S4 G isn't a Nexus device), that was so close to the SGS in hardware really helped kernel developers out.
At the moment, I'm erring on the side of caution with regards to the S800 version. I'd much rather have a slightly slower device in synthetic benchmarks (almost unnoticeable in the real world) and excellent dev support backed by a very clean version of the OS, from the Google Edition phone, than a slightly faster device with buggy rom and poor dev support.
I'd really like to hear from an android developer here as to quite what the problems with the S800 version might be. It is hard for me to give a fully reasoned judgement when I know little about what precisely is required to port something like AOSP / CM to a device.
I think the S800s real asset is the adreno 330. Otherwise, the cpu difference is probably even less than what you see from S3 exynos 4412 to snapdragon S4 pro.
If gaming is very important for you, then go for the S800. It will very likely receive less dev support (see galaxy S plus vs galaxy S), but has a stronger CPU/GPU combination. Unless you want to test out AOSP some point in the future, I do not think you would lose much from S800. Besides, why would you want to mod the S4 that much anyway, it's already pretty sick running stock.
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Finally, here is the confirmation that something is indeed happening (for international release) with the S4 and S800:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Inte...E-A-and-Snapdragon-800-visits-the-FCC_id46502
Watch out for the announcement around IFA 2013.
In the coming weeks and especially after launch, the debate will gain momentum about buying better specs (i9506) v/s better dev support (i9505).
I think that the S600 variant remains more suited - it has more direct support from the AOSP ROM of the i9505G (S4 GE) and i highly doubt that the S4 GE ROM will work directly on the S800 version. The S800 architecture is different/improved on S600, and the Adreno 330 is an entirely different beast altogether. So, unless Samsung releases an i9506G (S800 GE variant, which i doubt will happen as there is already one S4 GE variant and it wouldn't make any sense to release more GE of the same phone!) i would still bet my money on the i9505. And you should prefer the better dev support model too, since you're reading this off of XDA!
In my opinion, the S800 is just a publicity stunt as the original S4 no longer has the fastest chipset, so Samsung is making up for it against its competitors by releasing an S800 variant. Most countries don't have LTE-A and there's always going to be a better, faster, more power-efficient device. IFA will continue this legacy (other than S4 variants, we'll get the Note 3 and Sony's Honami).:cyclops:

Wannabe Note 4 owner, a query or two

So after using the Note 3 N9005 for over 13 months its display died and the cost of it is pretty hefty, so I decided to spend 2.5x more and get a Note 4
Anyway, I have an important query, exactly which variant of Note 4 was launched in India officially? I mean is it the Exynos version or the Snapdragon one? Cause I need manufacturer warranty this time.
Secondly, I am obsessed with good kernels and ROMs, and in that regard which variant will be more supportive? I noticed that Exynos models don't get any attention at all in comparison with Qualcomm ones, is it same for Note 4 too?
Thanks in advance.
ithehappy said:
So after using the Note 3 N9005 for over 13 months its display died and the cost of it is pretty hefty, so I decided to spend 2.5x more and get a Note 4
Anyway, I have an important query, exactly which variant of Note 4 was launched in India officially? I mean is it the Exynos version or the Snapdragon one? Cause I need manufacturer warranty this time.
Secondly, I am obsessed with good kernels and ROMs, and in that regard which variant will be more supportive? I noticed that Exynos models don't get any attention at all in comparison with Qualcomm ones, is it same for Note 4 too?
Thanks in advance.
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The model launched in india is SM910G it is snapdragon variant.
This time snapdragon and exynos both have good support, but snapdragon has the upper hand.
You maybe able to flash some Roms made for international variant 910F on your 910G but not all of them. (And you will void your warranty by rooting and flashing kernel as the knox will trip)
Thanks, will try to get the N910F or G then. N910G will have manufacturer warranty, and N910F won't, I understand.

I am planning to buy a Note 4 and I have few questions on which verision I should buy

I want to buy a note 4, and was wondering:
What variant to buy? I was thinking T-Mobile
Snapdragon or Exynos? I heard Exynos has 64 bit, which kinda excites me.
Does the exynos one have better Note 5 marshmallow ports? I was considering this because exynos is 64 bit, so I am guessing it would run better.
Which one has better battery life? I am guessing the SD one?
Thank you all! Btw I am upgrading from my Note 3 running an S7 Edge Port.

??? Model # for S10+ dual SIM - 1 TB, 12 GB RAM or 512 GB, 8 GB RAM version

Any idea what is the model number for Galaxy S10+ dual SIM - 1 TB, 12 GB RAM or 512 GB, 8 GB RAM version?
Also, a good place to order online? Canadian and USA websites have no dual SIM models on the offer and the only thing I was able to find is anemic 128 GB, 8 GB RAM version (SM-G9750) from never-msrp.
Samsung.com
Model number is shown in small writing half way down the page
UK model numbers :
White
512 = SM-G975FCWGBTU
1TB = SM-G975FCWHBTU
Black
512 = SM-G975FCKGBTU
1TB =SM-G975FCKHBTU
bomp306 said:
Samsung.com
Model number is shown in small writing half way down the page
UK model numbers :
White
512 = SM-G975FCWGBTU
1TB = SM-G975FCWHBTU
Black
512 = SM-G975FCKGBTU
1TB =SM-G975FCKHBTU
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Thx, good find. Now I just need to find the place that will ship to Canada.
I've found this website that appears to list all the models if anyone is interested:
https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-s10-plus-model-number-sm-g975-differences/
czguy said:
Any idea what is the model number for Galaxy S10+ dual SIM - 1 TB, 12 GB RAM or 512 GB, 8 GB RAM version?
Also, a good place to order online? Canadian and USA websites have no dual SIM models on the offer and the only thing I was able to find is anemic 128 GB, 8 GB RAM version (SM-G9750) from never-msrp.
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Never-msrp offers the 512GB variant.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...im-FACTORY-UNLOCKED-6-4-8GB-RAM-/223437883429
Also the 1TB variant.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...hash=item2ce7040cc2:m:msEpSV4ubm7yrAshc4bPz2Q
They ship world wide however I've had issues with Canadian Customs when shipping electronics from the USA.
varcor said:
Never-msrp offers the 512GB variant.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...im-FACTORY-UNLOCKED-6-4-8GB-RAM-/223437883429
Also the 1TB variant.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...hash=item2ce7040cc2:m:msEpSV4ubm7yrAshc4bPz2Q
They ship world wide however I've had issues with Canadian Customs when shipping electronics from the USA.
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Yes, I've seen those on the offer and was about to place my order, however, I've noticed that they offer Snapdragon variant. I'm looking for Exynos in order to root the device.
BTW, I've previously purchased 3 phones from the same company and shipping was very fast. Interestingly, if I buy from any other country, customs won't bother me much, however, when the product comes from the USA, customs will always slap me with a hefty fee.
czguy said:
Yes, I've seen those on the offer and was about to place my order, however, I've noticed that they offer Snapdragon variant. I'm looking for Exynos in order to root the device.
BTW, I've previously purchased 3 phones from the same company and shipping was very fast. Interestingly, if I buy from any other country, customs won't bother me much, however, when the product comes from the USA, customs will always slap me with a hefty fee.
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Both of those devices have unlocked bootloader.
varcor said:
Both of those devices have unlocked bootloader.
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I don't have much experience with Samsung devices, however, while reading different articles, it seems that Snapdragon versions are difficult to root and everyone recommends Exynos if you intend to root your phone.
https://www.xda-developers.com/exynos-samsung-galaxy-s10-rooted-magisk/
I bought mine from pdaplaza.ca. It's a 512GB model. SM-G9750. Price was pretty good, and I'm really happy with my purchase. Bootloader is unlocked. I unlocked it successfully today. I detailed how in this post:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79203224&postcount=153
czguy said:
I don't have much experience with Samsung devices, however, while reading different articles, it seems that Snapdragon versions are difficult to root and everyone recommends Exynos if you intend to root your phone.
https://www.xda-developers.com/exynos-samsung-galaxy-s10-rooted-magisk/
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They're not more difficult to root however Exynos variants typically have more custom ROM's than Snapdragon variants. This may not be the case going forward. The Exynos 9810 in the S9 had a higher incidence for overheating and lower battery life than the Snapdragon 845 chipset. Even now we're seeing Exynos S10 users reporting higher battery drain and overheating. This is due to the chipset's architecture which is setup for faster Single Core processing. The Snapdragon 855 in the S10 is a more versatile and balanced chipset which now exceeds Exynos in most benchmark comparisons. From everything I've read, I would be wary of the Exynos variants until such time they have overcome the deficiencies.
varcor said:
They're not more difficult to root however Exynos variants typically have more custom ROM's than Snapdragon variants. This may not be the case going forward. The Exynos 9810 in the S9 had a higher incidence for overheating and lower battery life than the Snapdragon 845 chipset. Even now we're seeing Exynos S10 users reporting higher battery drain and overheating. This is due to the chipset's architecture which is setup for faster Single Core processing. The Snapdragon 855 in the S10 is a more versatile and balanced chipset which now exceeds Exynos in most benchmark comparisons. From everything I've read, I would be wary of the Exynos variants until such time they have overcome the deficiencies.
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I went with Exynos version anyway. I've just placed an order on this one:
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/202631751460

Oneplus 8 vs Samsung Galaxy S20

Just recently purchased a OnePlus 8 T-Mobile variant a day ago. Don't get me wrong this phone so far is amazing but now considering on making a return for a Samsung Galaxy S20. Currently Stuck on making my decision.
Edit: I aplogize didn't realize I posted on the pro forum and not regular oneplus 8.
You will never be happy. Never satisfied. So who cares. Smoke some high grade, it helps.
Coming from Exynos S20 Ultra 5G. That phone was garbage IN EVERY WAY!!. So glad i swapped it out for OP8P
mohammed510 said:
Coming from Exynos S20 Ultra 5G. That phone was garbage IN EVERY WAY!!. So glad i swapped it out with OP8P
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I felt the same about Note 10+ exynos ?. Screen was gorgeous though.

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