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OK, I just downloaded and installed the 3.1 update, running stock OS.
CONFIG
I have a 32GB A500 which I assume is main memory / SSD. I also added a 32GB micro SDHC chip in it, and for testing, an 8GB thumb drive in the large USB port. They all show up in system Settings,
When I have had the A500 connected via the mini-USB port, the memory / SSD shows up, but not the sdhc card, and not a thumb drive if i plug that in (when I look at it as an extended drive)
Some applications can see memory / SSD, and the micro SDHC chip. For example, ES File Explorer has a tab which cycles between the memory / SSD file system, and that on the SHDC chip. It doesn't include USB storage.
QUESTION
First, I'd like to confirm that something (anything) can read the USB file system.
Next, I am looking for a utility that would allow me to see all three file systems: main/SSD, SDHC, and USB, and move things back and forth between them, and to/from my PC as well. Recommendations?
As far as I know there is nothing that will allow you to read the 'external' drives from PC. This was supposed to be fixed in 3.1 (just another thing borked..), so go figure when or IF it'll ever be available.
Incidentally, my 2.2 Archos 101 did all that perfectly, but the new android versions won't, funny eh?
Assuming he has the proper drivers installed, what if he went micro usb connected to pc and thumb drive in tablet. He could read/transfer files from thumb to tablet and have the pc read/transfer to/from the tablet. If that makes sense or helps.
Get a file explorer and go to the mnt directory. the internal, external and usb storage are all there.
I guess I'd be happy with an answer to the first question below, happier with an answer to the second:
1. Is there any app, running on the tablet, which will allow me to see the file system on a USB thumbdrive? Which one. It's odd to me that I can see the drive, apparently properly formed, in the tablet "system settings" app, but (so far) haven't seen how to get at it myself, and haven't found an app which access it either.
2. Is there an application, running on the PC, or an app running on the tablet, which let's me see the file systems on tablet, tablet's sdhc chip, thumb drive and PC storage in a unified way, so I can move things around without unplugging stuff? That is harder, but one of those networked file access utilities might do it.
GCurry said:
I guess I'd be happy with an answer to the first question below, happier with an answer to the second:
1. Is there any app, running on the tablet, which will allow me to see the file system on a USB thumbdrive? Which one. It's odd to me that I can see the drive, apparently properly formed, in the tablet "system settings" app, but (so far) haven't seen how to get at it myself, and haven't found an app which access it either.
2. Is there an application, running on the PC, or an app running on the tablet, which let's me see the file systems on tablet, tablet's sdhc chip, thumb drive and PC storage in a unified way, so I can move things around without unplugging stuff? That is harder, but one of those networked file access utilities might do it.
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1) I use Root Explorer and I can see the USB Storage in the MNT directory in the root of the device.
2) from the PC, adb i assume, but i've never done this. For network, try Samba server - https://market.android.com/details?id=com.funkyfresh.samba&feature=search_result.
GCurry said:
I guess I'd be happy with an answer to the first question below, happier with an answer to the second:
1. Is there any app, running on the tablet, which will allow me to see the file system on a USB thumbdrive? Which one. It's odd to me that I can see the drive, apparently properly formed, in the tablet "system settings" app, but (so far) haven't seen how to get at it myself, and haven't found an app which access it either.
2. Is there an application, running on the PC, or an app running on the tablet, which let's me see the file systems on tablet, tablet's sdhc chip, thumb drive and PC storage in a unified way, so I can move things around without unplugging stuff? That is harder, but one of those networked file access utilities might do it.
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To answer the first one, no, there is no application to read the external data drives.
As for the second, to transfer files between these, you need to get a file explorer like Root Explorer. The multimedia apps have the ability to access the external data drives so if you want to store music and/or movies on them, you do not have to use up your internal memory.
Hope that answered your question.
Does 3.1 add ntfs support??....if not can I make it support without rooting my tab??
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Root explorer works great, so does File Manager HD
GCurry said:
OK, I just downloaded and installed the 3.1 update, running stock OS.
QUESTION
First, I'd like to confirm that something (anything) can read the USB file system.
Next, I am looking for a utility that would allow me to see all three file systems: main/SSD, SDHC, and USB, and move things back and forth between them, and to/from my PC as well. Recommendations?
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I use Astro, in Astro I see them all. Home, Up and you'll see all the storage areas.
Astro will allow you to move things back and forth between SD, USB and Internal storage.
Nothing that I know of, will allow you to directly view your USB or MicroSD using your PC, by directly I mean through the microusb connection.
There's an app called Wifi File Explorer Pro which may allow you to see them on the PC however I'm not certain as I never used it extensively and may be more trouble than it's worth as you'll have to open a port in your router for it to work properly.
Hope this helps.
Any file manager can access /mnt/external_sd and /mnt/usb_storage.
Drive mount or USB mount all can mount ntfs drives. Must be rooted.
Can only access internal memory front PC. End of story until google/Acer fixes it.
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Euclid's Brother said:
Any file manager can access /mnt/external_sd and /mnt/usb_storage.
Drive mount or USB mount all can mount ntfs drives. Must be rooted.
Can only access internal memory front PC. End of story until google/Acer fixes it.
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I am on 3.1 ota and I wanted to root it for ntfs support.....but don't want to void my warranty.....(weather here is too humid so generally all electronic devices don't work or something or the other happens to them)...so I will unroot later to claim my warranty.....what else can I do with root.....(no custom roms..).......
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1. Is there any app, running on the tablet, which will allow me to see the file system on a USB thumbdrive? Which one. It's odd to me that I can see the drive, apparently properly formed, in the tablet "system settings" app, but (so far) haven't seen how to get at it myself, and haven't found an app which access it either.
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Any file system application (ASTRO, Root Explorer) can access all storage devices in your system. The location for the storage devices is /mnt.
Note that the /mnt/sdcard directory is actually a FUSE mount of /data/local
The directories related to storage are:
/mnt/sdcard - a FUSE image of /data/local. This is internal storage.
/mnt/external_sd - The microSD card. Must be FAT32.
/mnt/usb_drive - A USB drive of some sorts...can be a thumb drive or a hard drive. Not sure about 3.1, but 3.0.1 needed this drive to be FAT32.
2. Is there an application, running on the PC, or an app running on the tablet, which let's me see the file systems on tablet, tablet's sdhc chip, thumb drive and PC storage in a unified way, so I can move things around without unplugging stuff? That is harder, but one of those networked file access utilities might do it.
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Answer...other than ADB, no (until Acer fixes that). When you mount your tablet to your PC, you are connecting to a FUSE partition, which is an image of /data/local. You can transfer files between /data/local (via FUSE partition) and your PC. Unfortunately, because you are accessing a FUSE partition, you are restricted to only /data/local (so you can't get to /mnt). ADB is a known exception (as it uses USB Debugging to access the tablet), but that isn't graphical at all (all command line, which means it is a lot of typing).
op mentioned ES file explorer
Use it myself - as I really like the interface and the LAN access works great for me.
You can see all your storage devices from es explorer
/mnt/sdcard = internal memory
/mnt/external_sd = microsd card
/mnt/USB_drive = USB based storage device
If you want to mount ntfs you need to root.
Well I just purchased my Acer tablet this evening and loving every bit of it. I tried plugging an external HDD into the USB and go into astro and I'm not too sure where to go from there. I kept clicking home and saw something about USB but kept saying it was empty. Any help here.
tu3218 said:
Well I just purchased my Acer tablet this evening and loving every bit of it. I tried plugging an external HDD into the USB and go into astro and I'm not too sure where to go from there. I kept clicking home and saw something about USB but kept saying it was empty. Any help here.
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The path is /mnt/usb_storage or /mnt/usbdrive. But keep in mind that the external hard drive must be formatted to fat32, not NTFS as most large usb drives are. A workaround to this is any of several custom legals floating around, that will slow NTFS mounting, but I will let you get used to your device first before we go flashing anything
ahh thanks! Well, looks like I'll be rooting. After I root, what do I need to get this functionality?
I installed "Drive Mount" from the Market and it gave me access to my external HD that is NTFS formatted.
It does require root access, but once the drive is mounted it plays my movies and such without any problems.
You dismount the drive in the application before you unplug.
So far I haven't needed anything special to see and use flash drives or card readers.
strider_mt2k said:
I installed "Drive Mount" from the Market and it gave me access to my external HD that is NTFS formatted.
It does require root access, but once the drive is mounted it plays my movies and such without any problems.
You dismount the drive in the application before you unplug.
So far I haven't needed anything special to see and use flash drives or card readers.
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awesome..thanks a lot. So do you just have root access and running stock everything else?
I'm doing the same thing as Strider and I'm just rooted with stock 3.1 with the .13_GEN2 OTA update. My phone (HTC EVO 4G) is rooted, rom'd, kernel'ed, modded, etc., but I haven't felt the need to do that with my A500 and Honeycomb.
internetpilot said:
I'm doing the same thing as Strider and I'm just rooted with stock 3.1 with the .13_GEN2 OTA update. My phone (HTC EVO 4G) is rooted, rom'd, kernel'ed, modded, etc., but I haven't felt the need to do that with my A500 and Honeycomb.
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sorry for more questions, but what is that update you posted? I just rooted using iconiaroot and now looking for the next best step I should take. Like you said, I have my thunderbolt completely revamped but I as well don't feel the need to do that to my tablet. Main thing is I just want to see my HDD and be able to watch netflix.
Also for the USB mount, it said I needed busybox. Can I just get that from the app in the market?
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sorry for more questions, but what is that update you posted? I just rooted using iconiaroot and now looking for the next best step I should take. Like you said, I have my thunderbolt completely revamped but I as well don't feel the need to do that to my tablet. Main thing is I just want to see my HDD and be able to watch netflix.
Also for the USB mount, it said I needed busybox. Can I just get that from the app in the market?
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Yes, you can get busybox from the market-it comes in the form of an installer. So once installed, open up busybox and follow the instructions. Then you can install the other drive mounter as for the update, its minor; you don't even have to re root your device afterwords!
Okay lol So I installed busybox, installed mount drive. I go into drive mount and I mounted my HDD but when I go into Astro file manager and USB storage, it just says empty. Is there a certain app I'm suppose to be using?
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Okay lol So I installed busybox, installed mount drive. I go into drive mount and I mounted my HDD but when I go into Astro file manager and USB storage, it just says empty. Is there a certain app I'm suppose to be using?
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Its not labeled as usb drive when mounted in the app, its /mnt/(whatever your device name is)
For instance, I have a flash drive that in drive mount is labeled as sda1, so its path is /mnt/sda1. FYI I just downloaded this app to help you out lol but I got it to work. And though astro is nice, I recommend es file explorer
A bit of advice.
Do yourself a favor, do a full backup of your current rom/setup through CWM before going too much further down the rabbit hole.
Stickmount works fine as far as it goes. The catch is that I haven't found a way to *unmount* drives with it. When I press "unmount", it just pops up the box showing mounted drives. To make things worse, If I unplug the drive, the next time I plug it in, stickmount generates a new mount point (sda, sdb, sdc, etc).
USB Hub Controller from the market lets me mount and unmount drives, plus I can specify the mount point, but it wont automount.
Any ideas for either app?
I usually just look in the notification area where it says "tap here to unmount" or something similar.
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Stickmount works fine as far as it goes. The catch is that I haven't found a way to *unmount* drives with it. When I press "unmount", it just pops up the box showing mounted drives. To make things worse, If I unplug the drive, the next time I plug it in, stickmount generates a new mount point (sda, sdb, sdc, etc).
USB Hub Controller from the market lets me mount and unmount drives, plus I can specify the mount point, but it wont automount.
Any ideas for either app?
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unmounting with stickmount works fine for me... do you have a single device plugged in, or multiples devices through a hub>?
Mine did this. Use your file explorer and navigate to your mount point. More than likely there is a file keeping it listed. I deleted the file (happened to be xbmc apk) and it unmounted fine.
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I was have the same problem, but couldn't determine if there were any open files. I had been using an older 1 gig Lexar drive, first formatted to FAT32, then tried EXT4, then back to FAT32. In all cases, it would mount automatically, and I could browse, copy & open files on it. However, as above, unmounting only brought up the box telling me the existing mounts. After waiting several minutes, I removed the flash drive from the OTG cable, but never got an error message, though the sda1 directory was still there.
Getting nowhere with this, with the Lexar drive not connected, I deleted the usbStorage/sda1 directory (no error messages), then connected a different flash drive, a ~3 year old HP 8 gig model. Surprise - it works correctly. I tried it 4 times or so, and no problems.
Don't know what's going on there, but I'm leery now of putting the Lexar back on, considering all the problems I came across.
I'll try some different flash drives this evening.
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I had the same problem. I resolved it by making sure that my file explorer (ES File Explorer) and the Gallery app were closed. Just like Windows, a USB drive can't be unmounted safely if an application is still accessing that drive. In my case I used ES File Explorer to navigate to the contents of the USB drive, and I used the Gallery app to view photos I had stored on the drive. Therefore, I had to make sure that both of those apps were closed. Some apps have a true "exit" option, but not all do. I make a habit of either hitting the back button repeatedly, rather than the home button. Some apps have an exit option in their menus. You may need to go to the Apps Manager in the Android Settings and force close running apps that may have been accessing files from the USB drive. I took the extra precaution of force closing the cached apps (not running), that had been used to view the contents of the USB drive. After doing that, clicking on the stickmount item in the notification bar successfully unmounted the drive. When I plugged the drive back in, it retained the same mount point, and I was easily able to unmount.
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I had the same problem. I resolved it by making sure that my file explorer (ES File Explorer) and the Gallery app were closed. Just like Windows, a USB drive can't be unmounted safely if an application is still accessing that drive. In my case I used ES File Explorer to navigate to the contents of the USB drive, and I used the Gallery app to view photos I had stored on the drive. Therefore, I had to make sure that both of those apps were closed. Some apps have a true "exit" option, but not all do. I make a habit of either hitting the back button repeatedly, rather than the home button. Some apps have an exit option in their menus. You may need to go to the Apps Manager in the Android Settings and force close running apps that may have been accessing files from the USB drive. I took the extra precaution of force closing the cached apps (not running), that had been used to view the contents of the USB drive. After doing that, clicking on the stickmount item in the notification bar successfully unmounted the drive. When I plugged the drive back in, it retained the same mount point, and I was easily able to unmount.
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+1 for this solution. I was running into the same issue intermittently, and discovered that by fully quitting ES File Explorer (Menu > More > Exit), the drive would unmount properly. I can't speak for the closing of other apps since I generally just use usb drives for copying things to and from my N7, but I'd imagine GrillMouster is right and that anything that is using files from the usb drive needs to be closed before it can be properly unmounted.
Edit: Also, I discovered that once the drive is properly unmounted, the various folders that are created (sda1, sdb1, etc.) are removed and the next time you mount a drive it will once again be on sda1. At least that's how it worked out for me.
Will no unmount even closing the apps
I have a Nexus 7 with Stickmount 1.5. It works fine except that it does not unmount the USB drive when I tap the unmount option (or even removing the drive altogether). I have tried closing the applications I used while the drive was mounted (ES File Explorer and MX Player), but it still will not unmount. I had to resort to rebooting the device for it to forget about the mount. Is there a background app I have forgotten to kill? Maybe Stickmount needs an "Unmount, damn it!" option to unmount the drives regardless of what apps have locks on files in the drive.
Thanks for your help.
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My solution...for now
Frederick Davies said:
I have a Nexus 7 with Stickmount 1.5. It works fine except that it does not unmount the USB drive when I tap the unmount option (or even removing the drive altogether). I have tried closing the applications I used while the drive was mounted (ES File Explorer and MX Player), but it still will not unmount. I had to resort to rebooting the device for it to forget about the mount. Is there a background app I have forgotten to kill? Maybe Stickmount needs an "Unmount, damn it!" option to unmount the drives regardless of what apps have locks on files in the drive.
Thanks for your help.
FD
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I'm running Stickmount V1.5 on my Nexus 7 (PA2.17/EliteKernel). The only way I found to truly unmount my flash drive was to first click "unmount" in the Stickmount notification and then go to settings > Storage and wait for it to generate the results and you should see an option to unmount USB storage right there... click on it, press "ok" in the pop-up and it will freeze for a few secs and then give you a toast notification (or drawer notification not sure) that says you just unmounted USB... at that point you can unplug your USB drive and you will get no "unexpected removal" message and everything should be fine :good:
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I'm running Stickmount V1.5 on my Nexus 7 (PA2.17/EliteKernel). The only way I found to truly unmount my flash drive was to first click "unmount" in the Stickmount notification and then go to settings > Storage and wait for it to generate the results and you should see an option to unmount USB storage right there... click on it, press "ok" in the pop-up and it will freeze for a few secs and then give you a toast notification (or drawer notification not sure) that says you just unmounted USB... at that point you can unplug your USB drive and you will get no "unexpected removal" message and everything should be fine :good:
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I am afraid that that did not work on my Nexus 7.
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I had the same problem. I resolved it by making sure that my file explorer (ES File Explorer) and the Gallery app were closed. Just like Windows, a USB drive can't be unmounted safely if an application is still accessing that drive. In my case I used ES File Explorer to navigate to the contents of the USB drive, and I used the Gallery app to view photos I had stored on the drive. Therefore, I had to make sure that both of those apps were closed. Some apps have a true "exit" option, but not all do. I make a habit of either hitting the back button repeatedly, rather than the home button. Some apps have an exit option in their menus. You may need to go to the Apps Manager in the Android Settings and force close running apps that may have been accessing files from the USB drive. I took the extra precaution of force closing the cached apps (not running), that had been used to view the contents of the USB drive. After doing that, clicking on the stickmount item in the notification bar successfully unmounted the drive. When I plugged the drive back in, it retained the same mount point, and I was easily able to unmount.
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Thanks
This solution worked for me
Curious!
1) When I mount the USB drive and browse through it with ES File Explorer (rooted), no matter what I do afterwards (kill the ES File Explorer application and all the apps I used to access the files), I cannot unmount the drive unless I reboot the tablet.
2) But if I browse with Dual File Manager (not rooted), I can unmount even while browsing the drive.
3) And if I open the files in the drive directly with mVideoPlayer or MX Player, I can also unmount afterwards even without having to kill the apps.
4) But if I open the files in mVideoPlayer or MX Player through Dual File Manager, it requires a reboot again.
I think that there are some apps whose locks stop the Stickmount unmount (ES Player Explorer), while others don't (Dual File Manager, mVideoPlayer, MX Player); but if you open one app (video player) through another (file manager), it always stops the unmount.
I do not know what the above means, but I hope it provides info for the developers to know what is going on.
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Frederick Davies said:
Curious!
1) When I mount the USB drive and browse through it with ES File Explorer (rooted), no matter what I do afterwards (kill the ES File Explorer application and all the apps I used to access the files), I cannot unmount the drive unless I reboot the tablet.
2) But if I browse with Dual File Manager (not rooted), I can unmount even while browsing the drive.
3) And if I open the files in the drive directly with mVideoPlayer or MX Player, I can also unmount afterwards even without having to kill the apps.
4) But if I open the files in mVideoPlayer or MX Player through Dual File Manager, it requires a reboot again.
I think that there are some apps whose locks stop the Stickmount unmount (ES Player Explorer), while others don't (Dual File Manager, mVideoPlayer, MX Player); but if you open one app (video player) through another (file manager), it always stops the unmount.
I do not know what the above means, but I hope it provides info for the developers to know what is going on.
FD
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If you would like to see what app has what file open on your USB disk, use lsof in ADB/terminal. needs root. First, what is the USB mount? type in
Code:
mount
and look for your device. If there are too many entries, you can try this instead:
Code:
df -h|grep G
when you have the mountpoint, perhaps it is /storage/sdcard0/usbdisk/, the key is usbdisk. Now you are ready to search the open files:
Code:
su
lsof | grep usbdisk
now, I don't have a USB drive mounted, but I opened a .avi in MX video, and searched for '.avi,' this is what it will look like:
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com.mxtec 23194 u0_a141 80 ??? ??? ??? ??? /storage/sdcard0/Matt/video.avi
so here you can see com.mxtec has opened video.avi, and the PID is 23194.
If that file was on the usb disk, it would keep it from being umounted, so to get rid of it:
Code:
su
kill 23194
I had an issue that's been nagging me and the above info kinda resolved it but not really. Had created a folder on my usb drive using stick mount. After renaming the folder, etc.. Still for a couple of weks even after ejecting the drive... the folder still showed up.. Killed various apps, etc nothing listed showing usbStorage... So while I was doing my usual cleaning through recovery mode with cahces, etc. I hooked it up to my netbook and got into adb and navigated to where my offending folder was and deleted the folder that way. Once booted back into the system, folder wasn't there anymore.
hi all !!!
tjupille said:
Stickmount works fine as far as it goes. The catch is that I haven't found a way to *unmount* drives with it. When I press "unmount", it just pops up the box showing mounted drives. To make things worse, If I unplug the drive, the next time I plug it in, stickmount generates a new mount point (sda, sdb, sdc, etc).
USB Hub Controller from the market lets me mount and unmount drives, plus I can specify the mount point, but it wont automount.
Any ideas for either app?
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stickmount has no unmount in my nexus 7 !!
please help me !! Y^Y
I think an earlier version had an unmount option if you touched the Stickmount notification icon. But I don't have that option anymore. I just make sure I'm not writing to external storage and unplug.
I removed the flash drive and then mount it still is. But then I was hit by unmount. (I'm using version 2.20 Pro).
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Anyone use USB OTG helper? For me it works better than stickmount.
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Anyone use USB OTG helper? For me it works better than stickmount.
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Yes I've had the most success with OTG helper.
Swiped from my Nexus 10 using xda-developers app
Just received a nvidia shield , updated to marshmallow I cant seem to access my external USB from within kodi or any emulator app I can see the USB within es file explorer does the shield allow access to the USB from within apps im trying to run things movies,music from the external USB stick but I can locate it.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Ok so the marshmellow update killed the ability to use external storage from kodi .
In order to use external storage from within an app 'besides a file explorer like ES" you need to root the console and install stick mount.
I've had the AFTV 3 for a couple of months but only just tried hooking up a usb flash drive. I tried through the OTG + ethernet usb hub and I tried it with just a OTG cable. It doesn't mount the usb drive.
I'm sure I have it hooked up right. I formatted Fat 32 (even though it should do that automatically). It's getting power because the light on the Flash drive turns on.
I'm wondering if the update I got on May 15th removed the USB storage option?
Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
The Fire TV 3 has never mounted USB drives in a way that all apps can access files on the drive. Your only option is to use an app that can mount the drive itself. Two such apps are ES File Explorer and Total Commander with a mounting addon. Once those apps mount the drive, you'll then be able to select a file and choose a different app to open the file. Some more info here: http://www.aftvnews.com/amazon-fire...rives-keyboards-mice-flirc-ethernet-hubs-etc/
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The Fire TV 3 has never mounted USB drives in a way that all apps can access files on the drive. Your only option is to use an app that can mount the drive itself. Two such apps are ES File Explorer and Total Commander with a mounting addon. Once those apps mount the drive, you'll then be able to select a file and choose a different app to open the file. Some more info here: http://www.aftvnews.com/amazon-fire...rives-keyboards-mice-flirc-ethernet-hubs-etc/
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Thanks Elias!
I should've read the full article.
For now is there still no way to mount usb drive permanently?
Looks like Gen 3 is more protected then older versions, but maybe we can execute commands like "mount" in some way? (just my naive guess)
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For now is there still no way to mount usb drive permanently?
Looks like Gen 3 is more protected then older versions, but maybe we can execute commands like "mount" in some way? (just my naive guess)
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Sadly not, a Fire TV 3 is only suitable for "paying" apps (Prime, Netflix, etc.), and is much more limited than its predecessors (similar to Apple TV). That's why neither the 3-series nor the Cube is an option for me. I don't like closed systems!
Why is a NAS not an option?