XZ Premium native album app no picture quality enchanced! - Sony Xperia XZ Premium Guides, News, & Discussion

With sony stock album app to check pictures, I found no picture quality enhanced. Unlike its predecessor Z5 Premium which utilize X-Reality to pictures in Album app, XZ Premium just let the picture native(I've not noticed any change on opening the picture!)! So is only my device problem or you guys the same?

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64801965 said:
With sony stock album app to check pictures, I found no picture quality enhanced. Unlike its predecessor Z5 Premium which utilize X-Reality to pictures in Album app, XZ Premium just let the picture native(I've not noticed any change on opening the picture!)! So is only my device problem or you guys the same?
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in XZ Premium the X-Reality it's a system-wide enhancer. You see immediate change in gamut right away when you select another profile.
+sd835 is infinitely faster than sd810, but it still takes time to load and render the image in 4k which you can see if you zoom in quickly enough

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[Q] Camera function.

Can someone tell me if the GS4 has a similar function like the HTC One (Zoe) that allows you to either take video or lots of stills
and go back later on and choose which you want to keep, rather when the photo is taken.
Thanks.
Rob.
Quick photos from galaxy s3 has been here some time. The phone will take many pics and you can choose the best. For video? im not so sure as I havnt had a chance to play with the samsung phones since the orignal back in 2007 or 8? -_-
Rob_Boulton said:
Can someone tell me if the GS4 has a similar function like the HTC One (Zoe) that allows you to either take video or lots of stills
and go back later on and choose which you want to keep, rather when the photo is taken.
Thanks.
Rob.
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Nope. It has its own version called drama shot I think it captures still picture and records sound aswell
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HDR video
I have a qustion - is galaxy s4 able to record HDR video? (I know, it´s worse quality, but sometimes why not it use)
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xvasek said:
I have a qustion - is galaxy s4 able to record HDR video? (I know, it´s worse quality, but sometimes why not it use)
Thanks
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HDR makes the video quality much better, atleast if the manufacturer makes it work right
I'm always filming in HDR with my xperia z and I can tell you it is awesome!
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Sony Xperia Z - Multimedia focus

Hi all,
for those of you interested in the Xperia Z, or just curious to know how does this device takes pictures and video, or even how does is behave in reproducing different video file format, well, just give a look to this dedicated focus:
http://youtu.be/YvGcwp17wUk
For those interested into HDR video capabilities, here you are a non HDR video
http://youtu.be/qIDrtet2mw4
and the same scene recorded via HDR video
http://youtu.be/oPbFmXbw5ZI
You can see that there's a very noticeable difference in brightness between the two videos!
Ciaooooo
Aratheba said:
Hi all,
for those of you interested in the Xperia Z, or just curious to know how does this device takes pictures and video, or even how does is behave in reproducing different video file format, well, just give a look to this dedicated focus:
http://youtu.be/YvGcwp17wUk
For those interested into HDR video capabilities, here you are a non HDR video
http://youtu.be/qIDrtet2mw4
and the same scene recorded via HDR video
http://youtu.be/oPbFmXbw5ZI
You can see that there's a very noticeable difference in brightness between the two videos!
Ciaooooo
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Great video! And thanks for the HDR on/off test, it shows a big difference!
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keyz86 said:
Great video! And thanks for the HDR on/off test, it shows a big difference!
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Really glad it's useful!
Yes, I must admit that I was some kind of skeptical before I tried the HDR video recording. But then, it does make the difference in certain situation!

New Firmware Camera Shots Please

Hello all. I had the XZ for around a week and a bit. I returned the device as I found the camera hugely disappointing in comparison to my old XS, which is a great snapper.
Camera quality is a big draw for me so I'm excited to hear that Sony have overhauled the crippling camera algorythms for this latest software update. I'm considering getting another XZ, as the S4 really doesn't interest me and the One's camera is patently sh*te in daylight conditions.
So, help please: Could you post pictures taken by your Z with the new software? I'm really keen to see the improvement and judge for myself.
(And, if anyone who has owned both could tell me, after the update, which is the better camera, the Xz or the XS?)
Well I have both devices and even before the update I felt the Zs camera was much better. The Ss camera held more detail. Yes! But that only gave it an advantage in daylight conditions. In all other conditions, the Z beats it hands down. The amount of noise on the Ss pictures are horrendous! Especially indoors and in low light.
After the update, the Z makes up the ground in detail but a lot of noise is also invited into the picture. Again, that's indoors and under low light.
The Zs camera is, as it's always been much better than the Ss.
Attached is a picture taken after the update, you can check the detail it preserves for yourself.
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Here it is.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41689369
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41689369
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Great comparisson. Detail seems higher now (thank god!) but noise is also higher, it seems. It's a trade off I can accept.
Keep 'em coming
Well I have both devices and even before the update I felt the Zs camera was much better. The Ss camera held more detail. Yes! But that only gave it an advantage in daylight conditions. In all other conditions, the Z beats it hands down. The amount of noise on the Ss pictures are horrendous! Especially indoors and in low light.
After the update, the Z makes up the ground in detail but a lot of noise is also invited into the picture. Again, that's indoors and under low light.
The Zs camera is, as it's always been much better than the Ss.
Attached is a picture taken after the update, you can check the detail it preserves for yourself.
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Timaustin2000 said:
Great comparisson. Detail seems higher now (thank god!) but noise is also higher, it seems. It's a trade off I can accept.
Keep 'em coming
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Noise is higher when using superior auto, but with the normal mode it's pretty good I think.
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I didn't use superior auto in any of the pictures I posted, only normal mode with HDR on-off. If I used night mode/scene then the quality would be a lot better though. But I didn't thought of it at that time. You can see night mode pictures in the topic where I posted my pictures.
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uncompressed png taken with camera f5.. Image quality is a load better in .253 firmware!
Image on flickr uploaded using it's new "original" mode and it's 1TB of free storage, good job as the png is 15mb change the resolution if you want to see the original.
Grey and dreary day with poor light, I think the quality is pretty decent now, there's no way at all the earlier fw would have picked up the matting on the moorhen nesting raft.
http://flic.kr/p/eo44Gk
Xperia S first, Z second.
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Xperia S first, Z second.
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fards said:
uncompressed png taken with camera f5.. Image quality is a load better in .253 firmware!
Image on flickr uploaded using it's new "original" mode and it's 1TB of free storage, good job as the png is 15mb change the resolution if you want to see the original.
Grey and dreary day with poor light, I think the quality is pretty decent now, there's no way at all the earlier fw would have picked up the matting on the moorhen nesting raft.
http://flic.kr/p/eo44Gk
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What is camera f5??
cklow01 said:
What is camera f5??
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Camera fv5 is a camera app!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flavionet.android.camera.pro
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fards said:
Camera fv5 is a camera app!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flavionet.android.camera.pro
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Cheers mate for the quick reply!
on auto mode size 4.2 MB
Here is some comparison of latest .253 Xperia Z camera v/s Galaxy Note II v/s iPhone 5.
My View:
1st pic - Exposure control the best in Xperia Z, iPhone 5 second, Note II is completely out, it is over expose.
2nd pic - Note II the best here, 2nd is iPhone 5, lastly Xperia Z.
3rd pic - Xperia Z still much closer to actual color - the best, Note II - not clear and not sharp, iPhone 5 - clear and sharp but too bright than actual.
In overall summary of 3 device camera:
Xperia Z - due to some issue on the superior auto mode which only generate noise now, need to pick scene mode or manual adjust for decent output. Point and shoot will be easier once Sony fix the Superior Mode. Now you still can get a decent in details just more step is required.
Note II - Probably due to too big size or whatever, it is easier get blur image, need some pressure to hold tide for decent output.
iPhone 5 - don't have much fancy setting, but iPhone 5 is the most easier point and shoot, you get 100% sharp in details image.
More camera shoot comparison of Xperia Z v/s iPhone 5. (No Note II this time as the owner not around).
My View:
1st photo - iPhone 5 win here, it capture more details than Xperia Z.
2nd photo - Both quite equal, but I like Xperia Z leaf color + iPhone 5 water pool color.
3rd photo - This one I give winner to Xperia Z, they is big sunlight there, Xperia Z can capture the light and color look alive.
4th photo - Obvious iPhone 5 great control of noise than Xperia Z here. Color wise iPhone 5 still a bit not correct as the light there is yellow spotlight rather than brown.
More Xperia Z .253 ROM - Camera test out:
For me it's simple, the superior auto mode on the Z isn't very good at all. It gets the white balance completely wrong. I think it's the auto setting for white balance, it doesn't seem to work. The camera focuses better when you select the right WB. Taking and posting auto shots of the Z does the camera a great disservice. The Xperia Zs camera right now, simply cannot function well as a point and shooter until Sony fixes the WB in auto mode.
For now, you've got to use normal camera and adjust the settings manually. It's straightforward, only four options, incandescent for low light, florescent for strong artificial lighting, daylight for clear blue skies and cloudy for well, as the name says, when the sunlight is obstructed by clouds.
As far as I'm concerned, fixing the auto WB issue as well as improving the quick focus would have done more to improve the Zs picture quality than the removal of image processing algorithms. For me, it did a lot of work cleaning up the pics. It certainly needed better and more intelligent implementation but that's all. Doesn't need to be canned.
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With New firmware. Haven't got a similar photo to compare but it appears more crisp and true to life than before the update.
I'm on an unbranded UK XZ, with global update 253 (one linked to in the flashtool tut thread)
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No X-Reality for our xperia z?

A interview of the engineers behind the xperia zu posted on sony's blog..
What experience does “X-Reality for mobile” offer?
Kosaka: ”X-Reality for mobile” incorporates the knowhow of the super resolution technology “X-Reality,” in Sony’s BRAVIA TVs, into mobile devices.
X-Reality™ for mobile analyzes each image and reproduces lacking pixels to optimize quality for the sharpest videos. It analyzes elements depending on the scene and adjusts them based on pattern, outline and colour composition. It strengthens subtle patterns and accurately portrays their detailed feel, as well as reinforces bold outlines. It also enhances colour composition, vividly reproducing hard-to-display natural colours
You mean “X-Reality for mobile” can recreate the data that was once there?
Kosaka: ”X-Reality for mobile” is based on the “X-Reality,” incorporated into Sony’s BRAVIA TVs. However, it is unrealistic to use the exact same video processing chip found LCD TVs in a smartphone for various reasons such as power consumption. The distance that users view smartphones at also differs significantly from LCD TVs. This is why we developed and incorporated a super resolution processing technology, unique to Sony, that is ideal for smartphones including our new Xperia Z Ultra.
The super resolution processing of “X-Reality for mobile” analyzes videos one frame at a time, estimating and complementing any lost information. At the same time, it combines suitable video processes for each frame and applies them. Such video process patterns are stored in a database, and the most suitable pattern is selected for each various scene from the database and applied, thereby reproducing video quality infinitely closer to the original.
The super resolution technology, which estimates any lost information from videos and restores it by combining various processes, can be said to be a fruit of Sony’s video technologies. Each and every one of the process patterns stored in the database has been created by an internal development team in Sony, operating on high-performance workstations. By storing complex super resolution processing in a database, “X-Reality for mobile” enables you to enjoy high-quality video reproduction real-time that would otherwise take a few days.
With the adoption of the high-performance Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 800 quad-core processor for its CPU and graphic chip, Xperia Z Ultra has made it possible to perform super resolution processing that had been difficult to do thus far.
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This is where xda chips in
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This is where xda chips in
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I hope they do it...but if it is really dependent on the snpdrgn 800 then i dont even they will be able to do it
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if sony wants the z to have it the z will have it
its all a question if sony wants
That's true - if sony wants to, they will give it. But there are some facts to be said - the Xperia ZU that is now launching hasn't got the X-reality onboard but will get it with an software update. So for this part is seems that the X-reality is software dependent. Which is a plus in considering that Xperia Z might get it as an software update as well.
Secondly, with the Honami leak of apps I tried a mod with X-reality on my Xperia Z - and you could really see that it worked cuz if you quickly zoomed in on a photo you saw the image getting sharper one area at a time. So as far as I'm conserned - S4 pro chip has no trouble handling X-reality. And I didn't notice any more battery drain than otherwise..
So yes, in my view it's only really a question of if sony wants to give it to Xperia Z.
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That's true - if sony wants it, they will give it. But there are some facts to be said - the Xperia ZU that is now launching hasn't got the X-reality anboard but will get it with an software update. So for this part is seems that the X-reality is software dependent. Which is a plus in considering that Xperia Z might get it as an software update.
Secondly, with the Honami leak of apps I tried a mod with X-reality on my Xperia Z - and you could really see that it worked cuz if you quickly zoomed in on a photo you saw the image getting sharper one area at a time. So as far as I'm conserned - S4 pro chip has no trouble handling X-reality. And I didn't notice any more battery drain than otherwise..
So yes, in my view it's only really a question of if sony wants to give it to Xperia Z.
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i agree that it worked but it only worked in images it didnt work at all in videos..theres some super resolution technology used by x-reality for videos which improves the quality besides the normal color sharpness etc stuff
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i agree that it worked but it only worked in images it didnt work at all in videos..theres some super resolution technology used by x-reality for videos which improves the quality besides the normal color sharpness etc stuff
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Can you really say that you can see superresolution in videos? I don't think so. But from what I can tell, video looked super awesome with X-reality for me. I saw difference between on/off X-reality. Was it just BME2 behind or was it super resoultion? I don't think that anyone can tell that just by viewing a video because it's not the same as in pictures to see it happening before you.
If I was a Sony executive of anykind, I'd vote for to give Xperia Z/ZL/ZR X-reality even if had to be limited in it's functions just to keep the software among 2013 devices equal (and to stop the hype in media/XDA )
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Can you really say that you can see superresolution in videos? I don't think so. But from what I can tell, video looked super awesome with X-reality for me. I saw difference between on/off X-reality. Was it just BME2 behind or was it super resoultion? I don't think that anyone can tell that just by viewing a video because it's not the same as in pictures to see it happening before you.
If I was a Sony executive of anykind, I'd vote for to give Xperia Z/ZL/ZR X-reality even if had to be limited in it's functions just to keep the software among 2013 devices equal (and to stop the hype in media/XDA )
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lol...u saw difference in videos with x-reality on...stop faking..even the developers who made the x-reality mod agree that its not working on videos then how could u see the differrence?
...perform super resolution processing that had been difficult
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This is what i took out of the article , it clearly states its only "super resolution processing" and that cpus before werent capablepreviously, yeah sure the s800 is 30-40% more powerful, but that still leaves the fact that the s4 is still half capable of processing it, its just whether now they want to implement it in ONLY their new phone, so it looks like a new feature specific to that range is anybodies clue. but thats how i see it , interpretations may differ
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lol...u saw difference in videos with x-reality on...stop faking..even the developers who made the x-reality mod agree that its not working on videos then how could u see the differrence?
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Who's faking anything? Dont be a douchebag. Like I said - how can anyone tell if it's doing super resolution in a video or not? The difference that I mentioned previosly was to the overal video and I even said dont know if it was just BME or if it was X-reality.
Besides - 1080p in a 5inch display - who needs super-resolution? If you got a crappy video to watch it's still gonna look crappy.
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Who's faking anything? Dont be a douchebag.
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Ok then post some screenshots showing the difference with x-reality on and off
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Ok then post some screenshots showing the difference with x-reality on and off
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look i'm on stock now with the new firmware. If you want or need to pick on someone that's your problem.
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look i'm on stock now with the new firmware. If you want or need to pick on someone that's your problem.
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As your wish but i dont need to check anything as i too used the mod and theres was not a single effect on video it just worked on images in the album app..

Third party camera app vs sony's camera app

i think many of you z1c users have experienced the problem of bluring in a image especially taking photos of landscapes and sceneries .. in which details matter the most.. A 20.7 MP camera is expected to fulfil the need of clarity and detail to some extent when it comes to these photos.. The problem with Sony's official camera app is that it blurs some parts of the photo and give us a somewhat blurred image.. This however can be solved using a third party camera app... I have used two of them (camera fx and procapture) both giving better result than sony's official camera app.. I dont know whether z2 camera app has solved this or not but for now a third party app is my best bet to get the most out of the the camera!! Will post more camparitive photos in the coming days..
I have also noticed this blurring. I tried camera zoom fx, but for whatever reason I can't stand the UI. So I have been using Camera Fv-5, it is an improvement, however I will be trying more.
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Did somebody try the new Z2 Cam App? Its available for all xperia devices.
Probably there are some improvements.
Didnt tried it because of the libraries were not available for timeshift and 4k video.. Many people are working on it on Z1 forum.. Hopefully will see it soon.. And more importantly.. I hope this blurring effect is solved..
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Did somebody try the new Z2 Cam App? Its available for all xperia devices.
Probably there are some improvements.
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I did try, but the camera module looks exactly the same. Could be something with the libs, but it doesn't really matter. The pics are still blurred.
Can someone post examples with stock and third party app? I don't see the bluring in my pics.
I went to a retail store, and z1's photo have more details than the compact.
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i think many of you z1c users have experienced the problem of bluring in a image especially taking photos of landscapes and sceneries .. in which details matter the most.. A 20.7 MP camera is expected to fulfil the need of clarity and detail to some extent when it comes to these photos.. The problem with Sony's official camera app is that it blurs some parts of the photo and give us a somewhat blurred image.. This however can be solved using a third party camera app... I have used two of them (camera fx and procapture) both giving better result than sony's official camera app.. I dont know whether z2 camera app has solved this or not but for now a third party app is my best bet to get the most out of the the camera!! Will post more camparitive photos in the coming days..
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In different app, but equal setting:
ZX1C focus/defocus
In my opinion the stock kamera app doesn't right focus setting.
Camera FV 5
After the recommendation of many Camera FV 5 users.. I gave it a shot.. and I was not disappointed.. The customization and the result stand out from all the other apps.. focus is pretty damn good and no more blury pictures.. and no details ignored.. only day time test left.. night samples are better than I expected!
Is there anyway to change which camera app opens from the lockscreen. I want FV5 to launch from the lockscreen not sony's app. I'm running stock KK.
VSCO Camera is pretty good. I am also wondering from the post above if there is a way to change the default camera on the lock screen.
Snap camera is one of my favourite.
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you should post more various pics (8MP/20MP) from other apps, gives a better idea. the first post pic isn't exactly clear in either shot
stringy2010 said:
I have also noticed this blurring. I tried camera zoom fx, but for whatever reason I can't stand the UI. So I have been using Camera Fv-5, it is an improvement, however I will be trying more.
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Try to play with iso settings tray iso 50 or 100 for 20.7 image
Hi all,
besides some blur on certain conditions(low light) what I most regret of this 20mpx camera on the Z1Compact is that all pictures looks like washed out, like without proper contrast or white balance is incorrect.
I have tried in Manual Mode with ISO 50, 100, 200, also moving the exposure control on the screen, white balance in automatic and also 'sun' or 'light bulb', most of the shots don't have vivid colors.
I come from Samsung Galaxy SII, then I had S4, then a Note 3 ... (then I realized that big phones are not comfortable to carry in the pocket all day and switched to Z1Compact), all Samsung phones had different colors on taken pictures, more vivid.
Any advise on how to take better pictures with Z1Compact?
Thanks.
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I went to a retail store, and z1's photo have more details than the compact.
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Having owned both, the Z1 *looks* like the photos are better because the screen has higher resolution (1080p), but in reality when you load photos onto a computer, the Z1C is distinctly better.
Also when I changed my back case from plastic to glass (which also replaces the glass over the camera lens) I noticed a small improvement in sharpness, particularly in the corners.
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Also when I changed my back case from plastic to glass (which also replaces the glass over the camera lens) I noticed a small improvement in sharpness, particularly in the corners.
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Hi,
where did buy the back cover replacement? Can you share a link or PM me the link if you're not allowed to post it in the forum?
Thanks.
I have 'Snap' running on CM12 and I'm initially very impressed.........opens up the 20 meg Cyber-shot camera ability nicely.
RAW file access would be nice so we could then import to a hardcore editor on a PC....and I'm sure that wouldn't be too difficult to sort out with an update.....but for a few pennies it's way way better than the google camera app that comes with CM12.
Have you tried using the Camera2 API in snap? I cant tell if it makes a difference or not...
In .242 fw doesn't work the Camera2 API...

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