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Hello,
Many people already asked this question on many other forums, and they have been blamed by everyone because people consider stupid to buy an A1 and ask for a MIUI when you have Mi 5x that's identical and already run MIUI rom.
THOSE PHONES ARE NOT IDENTICAL
In fact, A1 runs LTE (4g) bands that Mi 5X doesn't have. In Italy the majority of the LTE is on Band 20 for example, and this is the reason why A1 is having lot of success like the other phones with a GLOBAL version (Redmi 4x/Redmi Note 4 Global etc).
What we're asking for is not a rom: the rom already exists.
What we're asking for is not a porting: the phone's HW is THE SAME so there's no need to work or fix anything.
We just need a way, a tweak, a solution, a trick, a "something" to avoid the A/B partition problem and flash the xiaomi.eu rom for Mi 5x on A1 to have a FULLY UNLOCKED phone that can use ALL THE LTE BANDS and also all the advantages of the MIUI rom.
Can somebody help us, now that you know that's not only matter of "PLS port MIUI on A1 cuz it's beautiful plz plz plz"
As italian, i'm totally afree with you...i just want the MIUI features and the 20 LTE band.
timeless241285 said:
Hello,
Many people already asked this question on many other forums, and they have been blamed by everyone because people consider stupid to buy an A1 and ask for a MIUI when you have Mi 5x that's identical and already run MIUI rom.
THOSE PHONES ARE NOT IDENTICAL
In fact, A1 runs LTE (4g) bands that Mi 5X doesn't have. In Italy the majority of the LTE is on Band 20 for example, and this is the reason why A1 is having lot of success like the other phones with a GLOBAL version (Redmi 4x/Redmi Note 4 Global etc).
What we're asking for is not a rom: the rom already exists.
What we're asking for is not a porting: the phone's HW is THE SAME so there's no need to work or fix anything.
We just need a way, a tweak, a solution, a trick, a "something" to avoid the A/B partition problem and flash the xiaomi.eu rom for Mi 5x on A1 to have a FULLY UNLOCKED phone that can use ALL THE LTE BANDS and also all the advantages of the MIUI rom.
Can somebody help us, now that you know that's not only matter of "PLS port MIUI on A1 cuz it's beautiful plz plz plz"
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But still, why do you need Miui so badly when you have stock Android ? Because of special features like dt2w and so ? That will come here also when custom kernel arrive.
NITRO_100 said:
But still, why do you need Miui so badly when you have stock Android ? Because of special features like dt2w and so ? That will come here also when custom kernel arrive.
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MIUI has an optimisation than stock Android hasn't. RAM cleaner on the Recent tabs, Security Center, Built-in call recording, sound recorder, dual space (that for dual SIM it's very important) and many others and features..
I guess when kernel source is available developer will be able to port miui regardless of band and any other limitations..
jack_21 said:
MIUI has an optimisation than stock Android hasn't. RAM cleaner on the Recent tabs, Security Center, Built-in call recording, sound recorder, dual space (that for dual SIM it's very important) and many others and features..
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Miui has very aggressive optimization that I hated, because many apps had misbehaved, I always turn that off. Ram cleaner is nonsense but you have it in stock android too. The options in security center, call recording, sound recorder can be achieved by 3rd party apps. Dual space is like 2nd account.
Don't get me wrong, I generally like miui but there isn't any option that I miss, and multitasking is way better in stock android, apps doesn't get killed after 10 minutes.
Stop forcing your opinion on others by asking why do we need MIUI when have stock android which is better. It is just basic preference. I like MIUI over stock android and perhaps over any custom rom. It is personal taste.
Do I know that MIUI is not as optimized as stock android? YES.
Do I still want it? YES.
IamSubhodeep said:
Stop forcing your opinion on others by asking why do we need MIUI when have stock android which is better. It is just basic preference. I like MIUI over stock android and perhaps over any custom rom. It is personal taste.
Do I know that MIUI is not as optimized as stock android? YES.
Do I still want it? YES.
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Stop asking for miui on an Android stock phone. Go for the mi5x instead , i know it lacks the B20 but life is hard.:good:
jlmcr87 said:
Stop asking for miui on an Android stock phone. Go for the mi5x instead , i know it lacks the B20 but life is hard.:good:
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We don't come on the XDA for philosophy classes. :|
I really hope that we'll be able to run MIUI on this device.
I already own a Mi A1.
IamSubhodeep said:
Stop forcing your opinion on others by asking why do we need MIUI when have stock android which is better. It is just basic preference. I like MIUI over stock android and perhaps over any custom rom. It is personal taste.
Do I know that MIUI is not as optimized as stock android? YES.
Do I still want it? YES.
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I guess that was meant for me (next time pls quote me). Well I have my opinion an I feel free to share it, as you share yours which I appreciate.
I still think that there is nothing that miui has that can not be achieved in stock android. It's just the cosmetics that bothers you. You knew that this phone is pure android, you knew that it has 2 partitions and you should have researched if there is miui rom/port available before you purchased it. Or better, you should purchased it when miui rom/port eventually will be available. And there are good phones from Xiaomi (global ones) even cheaper than this with Miui 9.
Btw, I believe someone (maybe you) will port miui after xiaomi release kernel source, but then we would be allready on Oreo.
NITRO_100 said:
I guess that was meant for me (next time pls quote me). Well I have my opinion an I feel free to share it, as you share yours which I appreciate.
I still think that there is nothing that miui has that can not be achieved in stock android. It's just the cosmetics that bothers you. You knew that this phone is pure android, you knew that it has 2 partitions and you should have researched if there is miui rom/port available before you purchased it. Or better, you should purchased it when miui rom/port eventually will be available. And there are good phones from Xiaomi (global ones) even cheaper than this with Miui 9.
Btw, I believe someone (maybe you) will port miui after xiaomi release kernel source, but then we would be allready on Oreo.
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It was not meant for you specifically. I have seen people bashing the MIUI users with the same comment on multiple forums.
And about porting, I know nothing about it. Waiting for you people to do that. I'll be grateful.
NITRO_100 said:
I still think that there is nothing that miui has that can not be achieved in stock android.
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Ok, then show me how can I achieve built in XiaomiAccount, Mi Cloud/Gallery, Mi App store, Xiaomi Notes, etc...
I don't care about the bells and whistles if these services working good!
And that fine grained permission management would be good, not that simple dull one from stock android.
Upo_hu said:
Ok, then show me how can I achieve built in XiaomiAccount, Mi Cloud/Gallery, Mi App store, Xiaomi Notes, etc...
I don't care about the bells and whistles if these services working good!
And that fine grained permission management would be good, not that simple dull one from stock android.
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And how is all that different then Google account, drive, photos, play store, keep which all are working great if not better then miui (especially the web versions) ? As I said, there is nothing in miui that can't be replaced. And what do you mean by dull permission management ?
And there are 2 ways of how you can achieve that: wait till xiaomi release kernel source and try to port miui rom, or get a global version (if you are in Europe) of some other Xiaomi device.
timeless241285 said:
Hello,
Many people already asked this question on many other forums, and they have been blamed by everyone because people consider stupid to buy an A1 and ask for a MIUI when you have Mi 5x that's identical and already run MIUI rom.
THOSE PHONES ARE NOT IDENTICAL
In fact, A1 runs LTE (4g) bands that Mi 5X doesn't have. In Italy the majority of the LTE is on Band 20 for example, and this is the reason why A1 is having lot of success like the other phones with a GLOBAL version (Redmi 4x/Redmi Note 4 Global etc).
What we're asking for is not a rom: the rom already exists.
What we're asking for is not a porting: the phone's HW is THE SAME so there's no need to work or fix anything.
We just need a way, a tweak, a solution, a trick, a "something" to avoid the A/B partition problem and flash the xiaomi.eu rom for Mi 5x on A1 to have a FULLY UNLOCKED phone that can use ALL THE LTE BANDS and also all the advantages of the MIUI rom.
Can somebody help us, now that you know that's not only matter of "PLS port MIUI on A1 cuz it's beautiful plz plz plz"
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Although I am not sure but I think that using Qualcomm Flash Tools you should be able to install Mi 5X ROM with Mi 5X partition table and get it up and running, but if these devices aren't that similar inside then you can end up with a hard brick. After flashing using QFIL you might have to flash Mi A1 modem for A1 band support...
PS: Don't do this and backup EFS and other critical partitions if you decide to do it anyway
But if we flash (on one of the a/b partition so you can set active the other in case you have make disaster) only the system and boot partition from Mi 5x fastboot official room, it may be enough?
Of course you will have to wipe data...
NITRO_100 said:
And there are 2 ways of how you can achieve that: wait till xiaomi release kernel source and try to port miui rom, or get a global version (if you are in Europe) of some other Xiaomi device.
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+1
The reason why I bought this phone is because I didn't want to throw 800e on Pixel, and I wanted a cheap phone with a pure android.This thing is a real successor of the Nexus line.
There are so many global versions of xiaomi devices outhere, that there is no need for this phone if all you want is a miui.But you can always try to port it. That's the beauty of development.
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Frankly, I don't know what is wrong for asking. Usually so called real technical people will tell people off if you want this why don't you buy that kind of argument. I see that the one that asks this question has nothing wrong. Everyone of us having such experience when we buy something from the market, we realise that there is a gap in functionality or even down the aesthetic feels, gestures or even some of the commands arrangement that looks stupid....etc, therefore, we asked for something we felt that has done very well, and wish that it could be done in this. If we always have to put up with what is in the box, we don't give the chance for the company to improve, and you ultimately don't help to improve the products.
After reading information from different forums, sometimes I felt sorry for those people who scoffed at people. Maybe you are protecting the brands, or protecting somethings that you feel so much attached to and disregard other people.
May I suggest that if you could not offer a better solutions, or if you think that this is not worth to do it. Just keep quiet and let other people try to answer. Or if you would like to encourage it, such as this example, a simple words like "I like the idea too!" will probably help. Words such as "No way there will be MIUI on Stock Android Phone...etc." If you believe so much about no way, would you willing to bet your neck on your chopping board? With enough incentives, someone will come out with a solution.
Sorry if I sound harsh, but this is how innovation and revolution comes about.
There is nothing wrong with asking. But there is everything wrong with asking the same question every day, in every section and always starting a new topic. You got the answer already, "currently not possible, if you want MIUI, but a device with MIUI". One would expect, that guys wanting MIUI will be satisfied, but no. They'll just create a new topic and ask the same question over and over again. If someone ports MIUI to A1, I'm pretty sure that there will be a proper topic and announcment for that.
Btw. words like "I want it too" can maybe help you to find similarly frustrated people, but that's it. Xiaomi won't read it. Google will not read it. Developers don't care, if they'll do it, it won't be because you want it (donation might be motivating though). Just look at Xposed for Nougat or Oreo topics, hundreds of useless posts like "waiting for an update..".
I would understand negative reactions if this thread would request Xiaomi to replace Android Stock with MIUI on all Mi A1 models for good! But it's addressed to developers on this forum and you'll loose nothing if someone will work on it. Why would you comment against it if you don't like or need MIUI on your phone?... This is beyond my understanding, but sadly the internet is full of this kind of thinking.
Dual app is a feature you can not have it in Stock as fully operational as in MIUI. Some apps (like FB Messenger) will not get push notifications on Stock for cloned apps.
You can use Second Space with one account and you don't have a replacement for this feature for now.
Permission Management is far more complex than even any Xposed module.
China build have Automated Task which again, no module could replace it, as for example: you can schedule to disable just vibrations and nothing else on a specific time of the day.
Notifications synced online.
Calculator with any kind of functions.
Call Recording.
One Hand Mode accessed by swiping from Home button to the left or right. You don't have to loose other functions using different shortcuts. (Double tap is just not efficient).
You have Wallpaper Carousel for your Lockscreen.
You can combine multiple themes to create your best appearance. Stock will never be as beautiful as MIUI can be, but that implies you have some taste for design and art.
All of this are BUILT IN and no root needed or any additional work!
I'm sure I have missed some other details, but when you love MIUI, you just need it, without any explanations. And a lot of Xiaomi phones doesn't have band 20 (800 Mhz) within this price range and specs.
Or maybe you just like to have them both available for your phone with Stock as official. Why's that wrong? ...
Absolutely agree! And additionally, all my data syced to mi cloud, just 1 click to restore. And it is unusable on android one. I too would buy a Mi 5x with B20 or A1 with miui!
There is some link present on google which provides Miui9 which can be flashed using MiFlash tool. (website is 'lineageosroms') can someone confirm if it is working?
https://www.lineageosroms.org/forums/topic/miui-9-xiaomi-mi-a1-download-android-nougat-update/
experot said:
There is some link present on google which provides Miui9 which can be flashed using MiFlash tool. (website is 'lineageosroms') can someone confirm if it is working?
https://www.lineageosroms.org/forums/topic/miui-9-xiaomi-mi-a1-download-android-nougat-update/
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Guys enough! we are never getting MIUI from Xiaomi, someone might port it but it won't be as good as the miui they build, you bought a phone with stock android, deal with it, if you don't like stock sell your phones and buy that crap called miui.
P.S.
The linked website just has a download link to the official firmware of A1, not miui 9
sooti said:
Guys enough! we are never getting MIUI from Xiaomi, someone might port it but it won't be as good as the miui they build, you bought a phone with stock android, deal with it, if you don't like stock sell your phones and buy that crap called miui.
P.S.
The linked website just has a download link to the official firmware of A1, not miui 9
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You have to realize there's a reason why people buy Mi A1 over Mi 5X, and it's LTE frequencies. Personally, I'd like to try MIUI on Mi A1, but I still like stock Android more tho.
Then go an buy a Note 4.
matcho13579 said:
You have to realize there's a reason why people buy Mi A1 over Mi 5X, and it's LTE frequencies. Personally, I'd like to try MIUI on Mi A1, but I still like stock Android more tho.
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The people who buys A1 for the LTE reason should have known what are buying, a pure android phone, not miui, and that there will never be miui unless someone ports it.
Don't feed the trolls.[emoji16]
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NITRO_100 said:
The people who buys A1 for the LTE reason should have known what are buying, a pure android phone, not miui, and that there will never be miui unless someone ports it.
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I think there will definitely be a port, because Mi 5X is practically the same device, the only thing which has to be done is to set kernel source public by Xiaomi
matcho13579 said:
I think there will definitely be a port, because Mi 5X is practically the same device, the only thing which has to be done is to set kernel source public by Xiaomi
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But why not just buy a note 4 then... im just puzzled by the will to have miui on this device, other then the dual camera your much better off with a note 4 4GB version if you want miui... its cheaper, it has the same specs and best of all for all miui nutjobs, it has miui 9... mods need to start removing these posts, I see them all over forums... its like if someone bought a pixel 2 device and would keep asking "when is touchwiz coming to this device from google", it's not and if its ported don't complain that its not very good.. just saying, this device is called A1 because its AndroidOne not miui.
sooti said:
But why not just buy a note 4 then... im just puzzled by the will to have miui on this device, other then the dual camera your much better off with a note 4 4GB version if you want miui... its cheaper, it has the same specs and best of all for all miui nutjobs, it has miui 9... mods need to start removing these posts, I see them all over forums... its like if someone bought a pixel 2 device and would keep asking "when is touchwiz coming to this device from google", it's not and if its ported don't complain that its not very good.. just saying, this device is called A1 because its AndroidOne not miui.
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I don't really care about having MIUI on A1, I bought it because of the AndroidOne and pure Android.
But it's always nice having a wide variety of options to choose from
matcho13579 said:
I don't really care about having MIUI on A1, I bought it because of the AndroidOne and pure Android.
But it's always nice having a wide variety of options to choose from
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Roms will come from devs when kernel source is released. Until then don't expect anything
sooti said:
Roms will come from devs when kernel source is released. Until then don't expect anything
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That's what I said earlier
matcho13579 said:
..the only thing which has to be done is to set kernel source public by Xiaomi
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http://en.miui.com/download-333.html
Is anyone trying to port the miui rom for mi a1? I know kernel sources are not there but there is a kernel by which we can port the rom atleast... And ya pls dont give suggestions like to buy mi 5x and other things..please we dont want that.. and also dont tell here that miui sucks or its laggy or anything.. everyone has their own workspace....
I dont like miui, but i tried to port, bootloop animation, when i have free time i continue to boot it up
But idk maybe there exist many bugs
Just buy a god damn 5x
Guys its a huge req to everyone to not give suggestions like to buy mi 5x
you can buy mi 5x...you know
There is xiaomi 5x, you can buy that one.
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You know you can buy MI 5X.
Everyone will be giving you advise to buy mi 5x coz both r identical twins in terms of hardware. So it may be very ridiculous to buy a mi A1 and install miui on it . When you have a thing in market then why experiment with other to make like it.
Have a look at this
https://m.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_a1-8776.php
MayanKKaushik said:
Everyone will be giving you advise to buy mi 5x coz both r identical twins in terms of hardware. So it may be very ridiculous to buy a mi A1 and install miui on it . When you have a thing in market then why experiment with other to make like it.
Have a look at this
https://m.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_a1-8776.php
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I guess it has been said an uncountable number of times: A1 and Mi 5x ARE NOT IDENTICAL in terms of hardware.
Have a look at this
https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8776&idPhone2=8776#global,mi-5x,*
(Hint, pay particular attention at 4G Network bands...)
met67 said:
I guess it has been said an uncountable number of times: A1 and Mi 5x ARE NOT IDENTICAL in terms of hardware.
Have a look at this
https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8776&idPhone2=8776#global,mi-5x,*
(Hint, pay particular attention at 4G Network bands...)
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They are not identical but on the outside they are very similar and they have roughly the same price.
So, return your A1 and get a 5x, bruh
met67 said:
I guess it has been said an uncountable number of times: A1 and Mi 5x ARE NOT IDENTICAL in terms of hardware.
Have a look at this
https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8776&idPhone2=8776#global,mi-5x,*
(Hint, pay particular attention at 4G Network bands...)
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If band 20 is really important for someone and wants miui than he will buy phone like Redmi Note 4 which has similar specs and its cheaper than A1.
@prashantxpe Just out of curiousity: Are you going to open a new thread every two months about wether or not someone has ported MIUI for you? Two months ago you also mentioned that you can help porting. How far is your progress here? Do you have a github tree others can contribute to?
Nope...next one will probably be about volte or "where is Oreo, shame on you xiaomi".
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Localhorst86 said:
@prashantxpe Just out of curiousity: Are you going to open a new thread every two months about wether or not someone has ported MIUI for you? Two months ago you also mentioned that you can help porting. How far is your progress here? Do you have a github tree others can contribute to?
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yup i have.... and i dont want miui for mi a1 ..a.ctually many user want it.... plus @JamFlux is working for same.... for the work ...understanding A/B partition and its working is very difficult plus i said i can help in porting if anyone is already doing.... @localHorst either help or just leave but odnt demotivate anyone.... two months ago.. i didnt have mi a1....like iits about a month i purchased it...
Localhorst86 said:
@prashantxpe Just out of curiousity: Are you going to open a new thread every two months about wether or not someone has ported MIUI for you? Two months ago you also mentioned that you can help porting. How far is your progress here? Do you have a github tree others can contribute to?
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yup i have.... and i dont want miui for mi a1 ..a.ctually many user want it.... plus @JamFlux is working for same.... for the work ...understanding A/B partition and its working is very difficult plus i said i can help in porting if anyone is already doing.... @localHorst either help or just leave but odnt demotivate anyone.... two months ago.. i didnt have mi a1....like iits about a month i purchased it...
I'm in a position where I could trade in my Oneplus 6T for a 9T.I like the 9T for it's cameras,bigger battery, fingerprint and feel it would be a useful trade for me, but.
Oneplus is so good with OTAs and open betas
I would probably miss that if I moved
What's Xiaomi like for updates ?
Specifically ,are there any Beta programs
Read somewhere they've stopped global betas
So then you only have something like quarterly updates,
Is that correct ?
I'd flash the eu Version (has no bloatware) and they push weekly updates
manus31 said:
I'm in a position where I could trade in my Oneplus 6T for a 9T.I like the 9T for it's cameras,bigger battery, fingerprint and feel it would be a useful trade for me, but.
Oneplus is so good with OTAs and open betas
I would probably miss that if I moved
What's Xiaomi like for updates ?
Specifically ,are there any Beta programs
Read somewhere they've stopped global betas
So then you only have something like quarterly updates,
Is that correct ?
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China beta updates every week and xiaomi.eu debloats It and adds language support, so of you're confortable with modding (you don't lose your warranty of you unlock the bootloader) and want a taste of MIUI, you can use Xiaomi.eu beta ROM (most certainly First build Will come out tomorrow morning)
hmuny99 said:
China beta updates every week and xiaomi.eu debloats It and adds language support, so of you're confortable with modding (you don't lose your warranty of you unlock the bootloader) and want a taste of MIUI, you can use Xiaomi.eu beta ROM (most certainly First build Will come out tomorrow morning)
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Seems like the best option alrite,been hearing good things about them,little bit more effort though but worth considering.
manus31 said:
Seems like the best option alrite,been hearing good things about them,little bit more effort though but worth considering.
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Yes, unfortunely this Is the worst thing about Xiaomi, software, that's One of the reasons why It Is so cheap, luckily enough there are plenty of devs willing ti build custom ROMs and patch GSI images for Xiaomi devices
there is no xeu beta rom for k20/mi9t. only stable.
and there is for k20pro/mi9t pro. i am also little disappointed , but even if xiaomi wil stop global beta program, why there are beta roms for others for example mi9se, as i metion already k20pro, why no for me 9t/k20
Hey Guys!
I am in a bit of pickle with both phones and i need your advise which is valuable to me as you guys are already using one of the both devices, so guys which one you suggest me to buy K20 or K20 Pro and i know K20 Pro have SD855.
P.S also tell me how are the both phones development wise (Custom roms etc)
Thanks
Buy one of them...
We don't know what you need, so maybe some more info? I use phone mostly to call, send SMS, WhatsApp, gps, browser and with stock miui it's just fine, after some mods and with custom ROM it's great. PPSSPP and fpse is working on high without hiccups
I suggest you buy the best phone that you can afford, whichever it is.
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I suggest you buy the best phone that you can afford, whichever it is.
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Affording isn't a factor for me so
yaro666 said:
Buy one of them...
We don't know what you need, so maybe some more info? I use phone mostly to call, send SMS, WhatsApp, gps, browser and with stock miui it's just fine, after some mods and with custom ROM it's great. PPSSPP and fpse is working on high without hiccups
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I need new roms that's why i asked about development LOL i also use my phone for all those things you mentioned and more
Get pro, more roms, more power. If price has no difference for you don't bother
Go with pro.
Better Phone over all, the white is gorgeous, many, MANY more ROMs, Kernels and TWRPS (even ORIGINAL Orange Fox). Only get the T if you really like the phone and can't by any mean get the Pro.
Neither is worth it. Buy Oneplus 7 Pro. Much better devices with better community. I made a mistake by purchasing the Mi9T.