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I really wanted to get a Droid Pro, the device to me seemed perfect the way it was out of the box.
I currently have an Xperia X1, nice device but I had to run a custom ROM to get the experience I wanted. And I didnt find the right one until a few months ago (2 years searching...). And even the ROM I'm using isnt 100% reliable.
Now I'm looking around these boards and I see people looking for upgrades. Is the original experience that bad? is it slow? Does it crash? Etc. I'd like to know because if I get this device then I'll want to use the official upgrade but nothing else.
I guess it depends on what you are used to.
For me it seems that overall the use is fine. Especially since I froze a few unneeded apps.
But the battery life is horrendous. Ill eventually buy an extended battery because I hear good things about it but stock is horrible.
As for the pro itself, I can't complain really. But this is my first droid so I have nothing to compare to.
I had simply hoped I could customize a bit more.
In general I am not noticing any unresponsiveness since I froze some apps, added apps to the auto end list and started using a cache cleaner.
My only complaint is the battery, but that complaint is a big one.
In battery saver mode, using hardly any apps and making 15 minutes worth of calls lasts me 10 hours max.
Standby time of 13 days my @$$...
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dutchbastard said:
I guess it depends on what you are used to.
For me it seems that overall the use is fine. Especially since I froze a few unneeded apps.
But the battery life is horrendous. Ill eventually buy an extended battery because I hear good things about it but stock is horrible.
As for the pro itself, I can't complain really. But this is my first droid so I have nothing to compare to.
I had simply hoped I could customize a bit more.
In general I am not noticing any unresponsiveness since I froze some apps, added apps to the auto end list and started using a cache cleaner.
My only complaint is the battery, but that complaint is a big one.
In battery saver mode, using hardly any apps and making 15 minutes worth of calls lasts me 10 hours max.
Standby time of 13 days my @$$...
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What about your data connection, is it on all the time? I can't imagine a new device having a worse battery then my 2 year old Xperia (which doesn't even have the greatest battery in the world, and it has a higher res screen as well).
But apart from the battery life your happy with the default device? Calling, text messaging, browsing, it's all snappy?
Battery life would be my only complaint as well, too. Other than that, I love the thing. Even without any customization, it was fast.
I do wish developers would pay more attention to it, but everybody wants the teeny bopper phones these days, so I can't blame them for favoring that crowd.
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What about your data connection, is it on all the time? I can't imagine a new device having a worse battery then my 2 year old Xperia (which doesn't even have the greatest battery in the world, and it has a higher res screen as well).
But apart from the battery life your happy with the default device? Calling, text messaging, browsing, it's all snappy?
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Yeah 3G is always running, though in maximum battery saver mode it should shut down any data reception 15 minutes after the screen blacks out.
Come to think of it, perhaps it doesn't and this is my issue...hmm...
I have to hand it to Motorola though, 2 weeks after I got the Pro I chatted with their support to check for a solution, and they were kind enough to send me a battery free of charge. Stock battery, but still, I now have an extra battery in case I need it.
Anyway, yeah everything is snappy. I am not dropping calls, browsing is excellent (I use Dolphin HD for the tabs and addons) and text-ing works great.
I use Handcent for txt so I could set a different tone for some of my contacts.
I did have an issue with losing phone numbers, but I'm not sure what the cause is of that. Perhaps it's something I did myself.
But When I got the phone I connected to my old phone through bluetooth to get all my contacts, I then connected and synced to facebook so all contacts were linked to FB as well.
Somewhere along the line after wards I lost all my phone numbers and all I had left was the info from my FB friends.
Like I said I don't know what caused it and so I'm not sure if I can prevent it from happening again.
This may be something for you to look out for.
You know, it would seem I'm not that happy with my Pro, but that couldn't be further from the truth.
For one, I love Droid and everything that comes with it. Apps, widgets, games, browsing, everything.
Two, I got my pro for free since I went through Target.
Three, every phone has it's flaws. I can not imagine anyone not having at least 1 rather big complaint about their phone.
They simply take it as it is because they know it is not really a big deal in the long run.
I really wanted the Droid 2, but it was expensive for me. But I have no doubt that I would have a complaint about that phone as well.
So yeah, I am happy with my Pro.
I know every phone has its issues. But freezes and lots of slow downs are issues too great to have, in those cases I rather have another, more reliable, phone (I know they are out there, like my old Motorola KRZR).
Naturally smartphones are more complex then regular phones so more issues are to be expected but the problems I've had with the Xperia are some I don't want to repeat. Important phone calls that were cut when the phone freezed and text messages that took forever to sent because the phone had another slow down.
Seems the Droid pro is better then that, otherwise you couldn't be THAT happy with it. I'll have to look for a good importer though, I live in Europe. Netherlands to be precise, so being helped by a dutchbastard is always nice
Oh but I live in new York so I am of little help to you.
But yeah you are right. Problems like freezes are not the type of issue one can live with.
At first when I got my pro I got app after app and about a week in I had issues with slow desktop scrolling.
Then as I said I froze some apps and added all the non important ones to the auto end list and haven't had a problem since.
Do keep in mind that I've only had my phone for about 6 weeks now.
But I like it a lot. Initially I wanted the droid 2, but couldn't afford it.
At this point I think the only thing the druid 2 can offer me is a better keyboard layout wise.
But this thing does everything I wanted and more.
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I have a Droid Pro and I LOVE it. It's completely turned me on to the Android world.
I'll second the extended battery. I had trouble making it through a day on the stock battery, with extended I'm usually at about 30-40% by the end of the day.
I actually prefer to use the Droid Pro stock. Obviously there are advantages to to rooting. My main reason for rooting my inc, fascinate, D2, any phone I had really were the roms, wifi tether, etc. The advantages obviously outweigh the disadvantages but developers obviously aren't working with the Pro a ton so I havent needed the wifi tether, you can delete the bloatware and I did with my X and my D2 but I like using the Pro stock. It runs fine, Really, just my opinion.
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I'll second the extended battery. I had trouble making it through a day on the stock battery, with extended I'm usually at about 30-40% by the end of the day.
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hi mate,
Hope you are right ... with stock battery cant last more than 6/7 hrs...with screen to autobr., killing all apps after screen out, nothing running appart from sync services for my mails,weather,facebook and twiter....nothing else, no calls, no msgs,no inet, no music , ...nothing and with that last only6/7 hrs......
so I really hope that extended battery that I ordered will fix my problem,,, I am happy to charge the device every night as long as it last trough the day and days are long- 15/16 hrs...
if leave this aside I love the device even the stock software is not to bad...
just really hope that the extended battery will make it happen ....if not ... I will sell it...((
I am having some issues, and hopefully you all can help. Btw, I did try reinstalling it with a full wipe again. Anyway, the issues I am having is pretty fast battery drain, and my notification led doesn't go off when I get a message or text. What can I do to fix these issues ?
Thanks.
Help please
I have had my phone since day one, and I must be the only one who has neveer ever used the notification led. I seriously never paid attention. as far as battery, i found bus z to have fantastic life with ziggys 3/11 bfs wo havs, ocd to 1.114. Check your brightness settings, i run about 25%, and do you have gps on all the time, are you using bt all the time. this is the most stable rom ive ever used.
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I have had my phone since day one, and I must be the only one who has neveer ever used the notification led. I seriously never paid attention. as far as battery, i found bus z to have fantastic life with ziggys 3/11 bfs wo havs, ocd to 1.114. Check your brightness settings, i run about 25%, and do you have gps on all the time, are you using bt all the time. this is the most stable rom ive ever used.
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No gps on, no 3rd party apps, no bt on. I just re flashed and my battery was charged to 100% and it dropped to 80% while phone was on idle. What kernel
are you using?? Also are you on version 6.2?
I think the notification led is an issue with z roms, when I've flashed them in the past I use the app blink to get it working again.
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I am having some issues, and hopefully you all can help. Btw, I did try reinstalling it with a full wipe again. Anyway, the issues I am having is pretty fast battery drain, and my notification led doesn't go off when I get a message or text. What can I do to fix these issues ?
Thanks.
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I also am having very fast battery drain. I dropped brightness to 50% and I tihnk I have had GPS going all the time. I will fix that now. I also want to know should I be using Version 3.0 >>>> Download or Version 2.2 >> Download
I know that sounds like a dumb question but as far as dates go it looks like 2.2 is the latest.
It "doesn't matter" which version you use depending on what you want as both are essentially the same minus a few, subtle differences. Nils provides several battery saving tips in the first page of both roms.
Nils Business Gingersense 3.0 v2.2 is based on Sense 3.0 thus it is more resource heavy. I personally use this rom and notice more battery life (as with any rom I use) when I don't use 3g. Not everyone is in my situation but I'm a grad student and I spend a good chunk of time at home so I primarily use wifi and extend battery life.
Nils Business Gingersense 2.1/3.0 v3.0 is a mix of Sense 2.1 and Sense 3.0. It may be more toward you're liking if you can deal without several Sense 3.0 elements like widgets and rotating home screen.
What is it you do when you notice poor battery life? Also, ate you comparing your battery life to an AOSP rom?
Since I can't post in the dev thread yet....
I've had the ROM for a couple weeks with few issues. I am noticing problems with the camera saving pictures. Sometimes it's fine, other times the images don't show up for several minutes, then today, several never showed up in the gallery. Just looking through the gallery, sometimes older pictures show an error, or on some occasions, duplicate. The image never sharpens on zoom as it used to either. Tried a reboot and fixing permissions to no avail. Is there a known issue with the gallery in GB or with Sense 3 on these phones?
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Since I can't post in the dev thread yet....
I've had the ROM for a couple weeks with few issues. I am noticing problems with the camera saving pictures. Sometimes it's fine, other times the images don't show up for several minutes, then today, several never showed up in the gallery. Just looking through the gallery, sometimes older pictures show an error, or on some occasions, duplicate. The image never sharpens on zoom as it used to either. Tried a reboot and fixing permissions to no avail. Is there a known issue with the gallery in GB or with Sense 3 on these phones?
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Save to the SD card since there is no guarentee it wil save to internal
The man, himself!
Big fan here, NilsP. Thank you!
Regarding battery life, I've been running this ROM for a couple of weeks and am getting good battery life, but I spend most of the day on WiFi (WiFi sleep policy = Never). I use the kernel included in the ROM and the stock radio.
Go in Settings > About Phone > Battery > Battery Use, then click on the battery graph. Check the line at the bottom that says Awake and compare it to Screen On. Your phone should not be awake constantly when the screen is off. If it is, then something is preventing your phone from sleeping. You can use an app like System Panel to monitor apps and figure out which is the culprit. This has helped me identify battery-hogging apps.
After flashing from 2.2 to 2.3 my available memory has gone from 130 to about 80 something. I don't know what i'm doing wrong here. Also I don't have anatase as an option in setcpu. any help errors be greatly appreciated. I love the ROM and can't wait to see 3.5.
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I think the fast battery drain is not really the battery draining that fast. When I flashed this ROM, I had to wipe the battery stats and it slowed the drain amount down. At 1st I was losing like 10% every 10 minutes till I hit about 40% then it would hang there for most of the day. after wiping the stats it's a more accurate slow drain.
Recalibrating Your Battery Stats
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765656
Hope this helps, if this is not the problem then it's because I suck, but it did help my situation.
Having had the original Moto Droid, and then the Bionic, and having owned Moto X (2013 DE) I've tried a dozen different supposed battery enhancers, screen adjusters, and so on and so forth. The phones nowadays are so complicated any tweaks involves complex interactions that any savings becomes almost purely anecdotal. Thus, I can only share a couple of my experiences.
Current Setup:
Moto X 2013 (XT1060) Verizon, Developer Edition (unlocked bootloader) running Lollipop (5.1) / LPA23.12-39.7 / Xposed w/ Mobile Radio Active Fix
Current Config:
* Greenify (w/ donate package)
* KinScreen (free version)
* YAAB (free version)
* LeanDroid (free version)
* Some tweaks done through Xposed / GravityBox.
Battery life monitored through BatteryMix
One observation: Screen always almost always consume the most juice, unless you have a bug like the mobile radio active bug.
Thus, it is no surprise that most apps tries to play with the screen settings, but there are at least 5 types of battery savers (6 if you count the root / kernel tweaking)
* Adaptive brightness doesn't quite do the job, but something like Lux.Lite may be a bit of an overkill. YAAB seem to be a decent compromise.
* The default screen on/off is not that smart, and there are variety of apps trying to anticipate your actions. KinScreen was one of them, as are apps like Screebl and Gravity Screen. And frankly I have both (registered too). So far, KinScreen seem to be the least user-friendly (it just presents a menu of choices) but apparently also the most logical if you understand the options given.
* I've tried the PixelOff battery saver for AMOLED screen but didn't notice much if any battery savings. And in any case this only works on AMOLED type screens.
* The additional configs like automatically disable WiFi, Bluetooth, Data, GPS, etc. doesn't save that much juice, and annoys the heck out of the system itself as well as the user. But this is the "obvious" goto, and old classics like JuiceDefender went for this approach. It can work, but may also make the system more aggravating. LeanDroid operates in a similar modality, but seems less aggressive, at least when I turned off its control of Bluetooth.
* Doze mode / Deep Sleep forcers are relatively new. I've tried Doze and Deep Sleep
battery saver. Former seems to work, latter didn't do anything for me when I tried it.
* If you are rooted, you can tweak kernel settings with apps like Kernel Adiutor but this is definitely superuser area, not for noobs, as the potential of making device almost unusable is high. Or you can go REALLY crazy with Xposed / Amplify and try messing with the services and whatnot directly, but that makes the system very unstable.
So, any way, what have I learned?
* NOTHING can save power if you are actively using the device. Most of these apps can only save power if you are NOT actively using the device.
* The more "aggressive" the battery saver app is, the more annoying the device is to use, esp. if you do use it for surfing, Facebooking, listening to podcasts, navigating, etc. Thus, you want a least intrusive app or apps.
* You want apps with least amount of memory footprint. That way, the system won't have to swap them out of memory, to load a different app (and that takes power). And some of these apps are surprisingly HUGE. You can check memory taken up in Settings / Apps / Running.
My personal standard of "success" is relatively low: if I can reduce the "idle consumption", i.e. phone idle, not surfing or playing podcasts, screen off, to about 6% per hour (so hypothetically the phone can last most of the day with occasional usage), that'd be good enough. I'd say I've barely succeeded, as you can tell from the attached screenshot. When idle, consumption is about 6% per hour. As soon as screen comes on, it pops up to like 16% per hour.
Altogether, not too shabby for a 3-year old phone, right?
What have you tried, and makes you believe that your favorite battery saver app works? Got any proof? Let's compare notes.
I was running stock rooted 5.1 until about a month ago. Greenify helped, but the two biggest things I changed aren't minor tweaks: I replaced the battery in January, which bumped up battery life a solid 30% or so, and I moved to a Marshmallow ROM (RR) and turned on "Doze Powersave" (not sure if that's different from native Doze or just a tweak of it). And that REALLY helped. Before I had to either plug in my phone at work or leave with a near-dead battery, now I get home and still at 60% or so.
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I was running stock rooted 5.1 until about a month ago. Greenify helped, but the two biggest things I changed aren't minor tweaks: I replaced the battery in January, which bumped up battery life a solid 30% or so, and I moved to a Marshmallow ROM (RR) and turned on "Doze Powersave" (not sure if that's different from native Doze or just a tweak of it). And that REALLY helped. Before I had to either plug in my phone at work or leave with a near-dead battery, now I get home and still at 60% or so.
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How stable are the new CM ROMs... I moved to rooted stock 5.1 with xposed about 2 months ago because the newer CM13 builds were so unstable; and i needed a stable daily driver. Also got a new battery to make the phone more reliable.
Thinking of going back to being a flashaholic again. would you suggest starting with RR for good battery life??
I have a Batteries Plus near me and seems they can replace the batteries. I've noticed that the battery is no longer reading quite right at the very top or very bottom (rapid rises at 90% and rapid drop at 10%) so it could be battery problem.
I've changed my config yet again. Went back to Lux, Doze, and KinScreen, and eliminated LeanDroid. The phone will idle at as low as 4% per hour. Though as soon as screen comes on consumption is MUCH higher. It could be I set the phone to "interactive governor" in the kernel though.
Last time I tried MM ROM it was Resurrection Remix and I had some problem with it so had to restore my Nandroid backup. I'll have to give it another try.
I've found RR very stable, no issues so far. I think it's worth trying. I am running the July 11 build.
The phone now idles at 1% or less per hour if I'm not using it and it's sitting on a desk or windowsill. I am astonished.
And yeah, replacing the battery is a good idea. Get a replacement back though, the old one will not survive. I'm now sporting a teak back I found on aliexpress for $20. I bought the battery on Amazon for $5 and had a local shop do the job for $35 labor.
unplugged the charged phone at 145am, this is what it looked like 5 hrs later.
Switching to 2g whenever you aren't using the phone, saves a lot juice. 3g is a huge battery killer over time.
KinScreen hammers the system with wakelocks so I got rid of it.
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I've found RR very stable, no issues so far. I think it's worth trying. I am running the July 11 build.
The phone now idles at 1% or less per hour if I'm not using it and it's sitting on a desk or windowsill. I am astonished.
And yeah, replacing the battery is a good idea. Get a replacement back though, the old one will not survive. I'm now sporting a teak back I found on aliexpress for $20. I bought the battery on Amazon for $5 and had a local shop do the job for $35 labor.
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You don't have the inaccurate battery reading bug? I've tried CM13, OctOS, and currently on Turbo ROM (all 3 are MM ROMs). All three have unreliable battery readings. Usually the phone will just shutdown without warning anywhere between 20%-50% battery "remaining". Around 50%-60%, the battery percentage will start nosediving.
Maybe you don't have that problem since you put in a new battery. I'm still on my original battery.
Another question: in your CPU usage and battery usage, does it list all your apps? On all of the ROMs I've tried, they're all not listing any apps/games. It only lists like SystemUI and screen. I think the reason it's not listing anything is because the battery usage reading is wrong for apps. Like it'll tell me a game that's been running for half an hour only used like 2mAh. I attached a screen of 13 minutes of CPU usage using 0mAh of battery.
The battery starts nosediving around 15% which seems to be common on the CM13 ROMs. It doesn't take too long to get down to the low digits from there. I've not let it run down entirely since my power key doesn't work and I'd have to reboot from recovery with the phone plugged in.
Yeah, I'm noticing this ROM isn't showing the apps usage like stock LP did. Huh. Rare that there's an option here showing less information than stock.
Past 6 months with this device:
stock KK, rooted, original battery ->
stock LP rooted, original battery (shorter battery life) ->
stock LP rooted, new battery (longer battery life) ->
MM ROM, new battery now 6 months old (even longer battery life)
10 bucks new original ex34 battery from ebay=new life
but phuk Moto for making battery swap difficult.
My Experience With The X
Hi, I'm french and i own a 2013 Moto X and lovin it !
It is a Moto X Developer edition 32GB XT1053 Black and White assembled in the USA.
This phone is so perfect, perfect form factor size, the moto dimple in the back, Amoled Screen, Average Battery-life, Stock rom and Moto gesture.
But The Stock Rom was a bit laggy and stuck on 5.1 so I tried many ROM : Stock Kitkat and Lollipop, Cm 11 and 12.1, and the 6.0 Rom like OctOS Oct-M but at the end of the day i always miss the moto app and the bugfree experience. And I don't like KitKat design, i prefer material design of Lollipop and Marshmallow.
As for me the perfect rom is a CM 13 Marshmallow rom with Doze, MM animation and other tweak.
But there is no Bugfree rom so i Stuck on Stock 5.1 Rom and use Greenify for the battery and Seeder for the lag issue.
Seeder is really a GAME CHANGER, it just change your phone, NO MORE LAG !!
I current use the lastest stock 222.201.1.ghost_row.Retail.en.EU vzw // LPAS23.12-15.5-1
I use TWRP 2.8.7.0 and my device is Root. Greenify + Seeder
Current Setting :
SuperSU
Greenify ( Donate Version ) I Greenify all the apps that i don't use daily
Seeder ( Paid Version ) Everything On and check, Moderate.
Google now launcher
Swiftkey Keyboard
Moto Screen On
Moto Voice OFF
Google Voice OFF
And now i enjoy a bugfree and flawless rom with good battery life.
hbenz2008 said:
10 bucks new original ex34 battery from ebay=new life
but phuk Moto for making battery swap difficult.
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Yes, I literally had a problem for over a year .. should've been in warranty but Moto played games .. I checked again & it will be atleast $100.00 dollars to fix/exchange swollen/bloated/pregnant battery .. So I started thinking .. I bet .. I can fix this myself .. for way cheaper .. I ordered from oem4less on Amazon.com for $12.35 & $1.99 shipping .. for the White Door & 2120mah battery combo with NFC & did it myself this week !! The shipping was faster than stated .. The back was already popped off of my phone.. So it wasn't too hard to fix .. I've spent close to that eating McDonald's so it was well worth a try !! I've used this phone for years usually just to tether .. but now I fell in_love with it again it feels and looks brand new .. I'm actually typing on this now .. I have zero lemon battery for my samsung note that's going through the conditioning process . I wish zero lemon made a extended battery for this !! But battery is fine, it last long and works well !!
that is what I call a wise move. Moto x can easily go for another two years
For anyone who is wanting to do this, just watch out for the flash ribbon attached to the rear cover. And it is not a bad idea to go ahead and order a rear cover itself for like 4 bucks. Be done
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Yes, I literally had a problem for over a year .. should've been in warranty but Moto played games .. I checked again & it will be atleast $100.00 dollars to fix/exchange swollen/bloated/pregnant battery .. So I started thinking .. I bet .. I can fix this myself .. for way cheaper .. I ordered from oem4less on Amazon.com for $12.35 & $1.99 shipping .. for the White Door & 2120mah battery combo with NFC & did it myself this week !! The shipping was faster than stated .. The back was already popped off of my phone.. So it wasn't too hard to fix .. I've spent close to that eating McDonald's so it was well worth a try !! I've used this phone for years usually just to tether .. but now I fell in_love with it again it feels and looks brand new .. I'm actually typing on this now .. I have zero lemon battery for my samsung note that's going through the conditioning process . I wish zero lemon made a extended battery for this !! But battery is fine, it last long and works well !!
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I deactivate "Doze" and downloaded Xposed -- PowerNap.
Had to dump LeanDroid as it's causing me problems.
Dumped YAAB and went back to Lux (paid) as I had a couple Tasker mods for Lux and YAAB doesn't handle curves of brightness well.
Still can't tell if KinScreen is better or worse than GravityScreen.
My idle power consumption almost to nil or down to maybe 3-4% per hour with PowerNap activated but not engaged. I'll post a BatteryMIx screenshot later.
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I deactivate "Doze" and downloaded Xposed -- PowerNap.
Had to dump LeanDroid as it's causing me problems.
Dumped YAAB and went back to Lux (paid) as I had a couple Tasker mods for Lux and YAAB doesn't handle curves of brightness well.
Still can't tell if KinScreen is better or worse than GravityScreen.
My idle power consumption almost to nil or down to maybe 3-4% per hour with PowerNap activated but not engaged. I'll post a BatteryMIx screenshot later.
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I had to turn off motion sensing in GravityScreen because I realized it was really eating up my battery. Right now it's just using the light sensor but not completely certain if it's still draining my battery.
I just changed my battery last weekend. Best idea ever. I must've really done my old battery wrong because with this new battery I swear I have 2x-3x the battery life than I was getting before.
Will start messing with things and testing battery life. Currently using a CM13-based (MM) ROM (OctOs) and just installed Amplify because my idle time wasn't satisfactory at all. Feels like built-in Doze does nothing.
KinScreen often just "dies" on me, does not switch screen on at times. I got horribly annoyed that I went back to GravityScreen. I turned off the "motion" settings in Gravity Screen. My screen response upon phone pickup is much better now, and I don't have this black screen problem any more.
Yesterday I got the best results yet. Idle drain with screen off is 3.3% and that's great. That's with Greenify (w/ Xposed / Donate), PowerNap (Xposed), Lux (paid), and GravityScreen (paid). PowerNap is set to engage at 80% and 20% respectively.
Hi guys, I have a new Moto X (amazing and beautiful phone). On stock lollipop I have an huge battery life with moderate use. So the question is:
What is better for battery life?
a) stock rooted kitkat
b) MM rom (what rom?)
Hope someone can reply Thanks to all guys!
Personally on my original Moto X I'm using the Debloated Lollipop. With PMP to disable location / wakelock on certain apps. I get about 2 days battery on moderate use. Email and whats app running in the background
Sorry but what's PMP?
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Personally on my original Moto X I'm using the Debloated Lollipop. With PMP to disable location / wakelock on certain apps. I get about 2 days battery on moderate use. Email and whats app running in the background
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Sorry but what's PMP?
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Protect My Privacy (PMP)
http://repo.xposed.info/module/org.synergylabs.pmpandroid
It's an xposed module. Think Xprivacy but simpler.
It let's me disable wakelocks on app by app base.
Aka I don't ever want youtube to wake up
Also use boot manager to prevent apps from auto starting.
One thing I don't use anymore is greenify.
I flashed the stock image and i found the battery life abysmal. Not even a day
7-8 hrs tops with barely any usage
Anyone has experienced the same issue
Give it a few days and see if it improves. Sometimes drastic updates can have adverse effects on the battery
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I have one of the best battery life on O right now and I'm not pointing fingers to anything but google.
I was excited after hearing "Android Vitals" and they are on point about it.
Try to flash a custom kernel like EX or Flash though Ex's kernel isn't fully committed with the O source code but you may at least try it. On a side note there are still apps out there that aren't coded properly for O which would probably hinder your angler so look out for them a lot.
Thank you everyone for pitching in
Like I mentioned I flashed the stock image and gave it 2 days but as I disconnect the phone from the charger at around 9 AM (100%) , by 3-4 PM I am being left with 30% or less . By 6 PM it starts beeping as it hovers 15%
I barely use the phone at work. I just do occasional messaging (text and whatsapp). I removed all apps except the ones that I really need. No games...etc
I did flash the other day the EX Kernel ( Beta for O) for which I have the paid manager version.
It drives me crazy as it seems to be draining at a very fast rate with no apparent reason.
What's even more frustrating is that the built in battery app doesn't shed much light. The process that takes the most battery is "System" but that's all.
Maybe it's time for a new phone
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Thank you everyone for pitching in
Like I mentioned I flashed the stock image and gave it 2 days but as I disconnect the phone from the charger at around 9 AM (100%) , by 3-4 PM I am being left with 30% or less . By 6 PM it starts beeping as it hovers 15%
I barely use the phone at work. I just do occasional messaging (text and whatsapp). I removed all apps except the ones that I really need. No games...etc
I did flash the other day the EX Kernel ( Beta for O) for which I have the paid manager version.
It drives me crazy as it seems to be draining at a very fast rate with no apparent reason.
What's even more frustrating is that the built in battery app doesn't shed much light. The process that takes the most battery is "System" but that's all.
Maybe it's time for a new phone
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Yes, I went back to paranoid nougat, because I got the same
battery experience as you with O. But I'm reading that you use
what's app, do you can play a video if someone sending you one? Since the O previews for me the videos are just loading but not playing, and that's only the case by using android O, doesn't matter if I use what's app or what's app beta.
I got the 2% battery drain bug and sometimes i dont, ive reflashed oreo about 8 times lol, sometimes it dies at 15%..
coremania said:
Yes, I went back to paranoid nougat, because I got the same
battery experience as you with O. But I'm reading that you use
what's app, do you can play a video if someone sending you one? Since the O previews for me the videos are just loading but not playing, and that's only the case by using android O, doesn't matter if I use what's app or what's app beta.
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I haven't had any issues with any of the apps. Whatsapp works well I can play videos see the pics etc
I think I am going to get back to Paranoid
I read somewhere I needed to flash first the Nougat stock before attempting to put any custom ROM. Is that what you did?
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I haven't had any issues with any of the apps. Whatsapp works well I can play videos see the pics etc
I think I am going to get back to Paranoid
I read somewhere I needed to flash first the Nougat stock before attempting to put any custom ROM. Is that what you did?
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No, just my twrp backup, you can stay on latest bootloader and radio. Strange thing with whats app, may oreo doesn't like my internal, if final release come I will complete clean flash with fastboot.
Edit: check latest Pixeldust rom, it's like pa with a bit more useful features
I think my phone may be defective
Even on Paranoid the battery seems bad
The miscellaneous was on top of the list . What does that mean .... ?
Battery update.- Running kylo kernel r9 , working great so far just a few personal tweaks applied.
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I think my phone may be defective
Even on Paranoid the battery seems bad
The miscellaneous was on top of the list . What does that mean .... ?
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I'm not sure what you're expecting, give the rom some time and charges to settle battery. How old is your phone? If you don't have patience flash stock image and completely wipe your phone if you think something is faulty.
Well...
I used to get like a day out of the phone . With my minimal usage I would disconnect it in the morning and still have like 30-40% when getting back home in the evening.
All of the sudden one day I was just on my way home and I noticed the phone was off. I tried power it back on but it kept on flashing red as it was totally drained. Since then battery went downhill.
I'm not crazy and I do not have unrealistic expectations but 5 or 6 hours of battery with almost no usage seems a bit off. I gauged just by looking at the numbers being something ridiculous like 10% an hour.
I did wipe and flash the stock few times. Oreo then Nougat
Since the issue persisted I am thinking the phone just went bad.
If your battery is faulty, then it's faulty, that's why i asked how old your phone is. Ain't there battery health apps to take a look how worse it is.
Yeah I think it's maybe 1yr and half old.
I'm starting to evaluate those Essentials and Pixels 2.
Or better get a Pixel 1st gen if they drop low enough
Sounds to me like your battery is worn out. I'm amazed that you got 1.5 years out of it because I've seen posts from people who didn't even make it a year. You mentioned that it's draining 2% at a time and shuts down at 15%, which are pretty strong indicators that your battery is shot.
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Yeah I think it's maybe 1yr and half old.
I'm starting to evaluate those Essentials and Pixels 2.
Or better get a Pixel 1st gen if they drop low enough
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Nokia 8 (pure android) is an option too, but I would change the battery, n6p is still a very nice piece of hardware. Essential
is a hype phone til now.
Do you have a trusted source you can share for a battery?
There are so many floating around and I'm not sure about their quality
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Do you have a trusted source you can share for a battery?
There are so many floating around and I'm not sure about their quality
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Hard to say, I will run accubattery for week, after a first charge it doesn't look very promising for me too, and my phone is a bit over a year old. may some other users know a better tool or app, but this one doesn't seem to be so bad. Let's see what happens after some charges.
Akku Gesundheit=Accu Health, sry it's german here.
If you search for a replacement there is a thread here on xda
for the 6p, OEM battery or something like this
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/accessories/oem-battery-t3534410
Edit: may you try to do a rma with your 6p, like this lucky guy
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/nexus-6p-google-replaced-pixel-xl-t3660808
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I think my phone may be defective
Even on Paranoid the battery seems bad
The miscellaneous was on top of the list . What does that mean .... ?
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Same for me, with Oreo it's even worse
Update, kylo kernel r9, works fine however my phone now dies at 5% instead of 15%-20% much better but still.
HELP!!!
I picked up an H918 for my wife to use on T-mobile USA. Since it was used, I also got one of the extended life 4100Mah batteries to hopefully make it last at least the entire day without topping off the charge. She usually averages around 4 - 5 hour SOT, so this seemed like a good option from what I've read, and fits in the original door so I can use the wallet case she wants with it.
But man, her battery life is TERRIBLE! I checked with Accubattery, and it reports that the battery is charging within 99% of it's 4100mah spec, so I don't think its a bad battery. Yet, she can barely go 12 hours with just under 2 hours SOT before the phone dies!
She is unrooted, running stock Oreo.
I installed GSam Battery Monitor and used their ADB commands to give it permission to record deep statistics w/out root (pretty cool, never did that before). I ran it for a little while this morning. Within 3 hours 40 minutes off the charger, she was already down to 72% with barely any SOT. I'm attaching screenshots of the app usage and doze screen (sorry for the phone-snapped-of-phone picture, it's my wifes phone like I said, so it was easier to just snap with my camera than take a screenshot and send it to myself to post).
Maybe I'm not reading this right, but it seems like something is keeping her phone from sleeping. A big culprit seems to be call services, and in my location settings, I noticed it mention that LG IMS was doing a lot of heavy battery drain with location related inquiries.
I thought maybe it was related to WiFi calling, so I turned that off. Cell reception is average.
2 hours later, she's down to 50% so that wasn't it. I don't know what else to try other than hard reset, but we literally just got this and set it up 2 days ago, and its been like this from day one. I don't see why it would be any different the second time around.
It's likely a junk battery. It's really hard to get a good oem replacement battery.
If you shop Amazon look for a Taeozi 4200 or Shemnz 4200. They both have 2 year warranty and decent reviews here on XDA
The Perfine 4100 is also highly recommend
Any Li-polymer should be better
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When I bought my wife's phone it had a battery drain/overheat and wakelock issue as well. I fixed it and haven't had an issue since. Here's what I did to fix it:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/help/absolutely-terrible-battery-life-t3531456/post78654160
clsA said:
It's likely a junk battery. It's really hard to get a good oem replacement battery.
If you shop Amazon look for a Taeozi 4200 or Shemnz 4200. They both have 2 year warranty and decent reviews here on XDA
The Perfine 4100 is also highly recommend
Any Li-polymer should be better
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I did my homework first and got the Perfine from Amazon, not a no-name junk battery. When I couldn't fit it without removing the sticker, the seller was really helpful and actually offered to replace it after checking first that it fit in *THEIR* V20 at the factory. Really solid customer support. And according to Accubattery, it really is the capacity it says. Or at least within 99% of it (I think it estimated 4080 or something like that). So I don't think that's the issue.
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When I bought my wife's phone it had a battery drain/overheat and wakelock issue as well. I fixed it and haven't had an issue since. Here's what I did to fix it:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/help/absolutely-terrible-battery-life-t3531456/post78654160
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That's actually really interesting- I did take apart the phone to do the thermal mod thing (wiped off the dried up pink gunk and put a thermal pad there), but it seemed pretty clean otherwise inside when I did. How on earth did you figure out that was the problem?
After speaking with some folks on Telegram, Reddit, and other corners of the internet, I have a different theory. A bunch of people told me to let the rom "settle", that battery life is never good after a fresh format or new rom flash. Honestly, the critical thinker in me says that sounds like nonsense. I've never heard of this before and I've been flashing roms for the better half of a decade. I'd think after it takes the time the load up your apps and settings and configure itself, it would be done. But I Googled it, and it seems to be a hotly debated subject.
Those that swear by it claim that whenever you start fresh or flash a new rom, it takes anywhere from one to a few battery cycles before the kernel calms down. Perhaps it is doing some sort of internal calibration based on your battery life and system demands or something like that. The theory seems to be that the Kernel doesn't allow the CPU to fully doze until it is done with this process, which sometimes takes days. I don't know, but the more I read about it, the more it sort of started sound plausible. When I got the phone, I tried out some things on it myself without a SIM card first, just to make sure everything on it checked out before giving it to the wife. Then, I did a hard reset, popped in her SIM card and let it do its thing. That's when we realized battery life was pretty terrible, as after 10-12 hours she already needed to charge... and this was on the 4100mah perfine!
I tried another hard reset, and when that didn't fix it, I decided it was time to root and see if I could get to the bottom of the bad battery. It seemed the kernel was where a lot of it currently went according to battery stat apps. After downgrading my H918 to Nougat so I could install TWRP, I promptly flashed Alpha Omega Oreo 20H and restored her apps. Turns out the next morning we couldn't sync her smartwatch, somehow we broke bluetooth (going into BT settings would crash the phone everytime). So weird, and while we were at it the battery life still wasn't great. So I did a hard reset that evening and found that even with nothing installed, BT was borked. (looking back at it, I think I should have flashed an Oreo rom like the stock 20H rooted first, and THEN the AO rom. I think going straight from nougat might have led to a driver mismatch or something)
Anyway, after that didn't work I flashed the stock rooted 20H rom, and lo and behold bluetooth and everything else is working again! But the battery has been bad all along and is still doing its generally suckiness thing.
BUT... as someone pointed out, if this kernel settle thing is real, I've been pretty much flashing and resetting this thing every other day. If roms need to "settle" first (still a debatable subject), than I never really gave it a chance yet and that's why I'm constantly seeing battery drain from things like Kernel even on different roms! And @pistacios, is it possible that you were having a kernel do the same thing since it was just reset and it just so happened to be that when it calibrated itself you thought you had fixed it by cleaning out the USB port?
All I know is I'm going to give this a couple of days before deciding on a plan B. Seems too simple to be the reason, but hey- I'm desperate.
Dishe said:
I did my homework first and got the Perfine from Amazon, not a no-name junk battery. When I couldn't fit it without removing the sticker, the seller was really helpful and actually offered to replace it after checking first that it fit in *THEIR* V20 at the factory. Really solid customer support. And according to Accubattery, it really is the capacity it says. Or at least within 99% of it (I think it estimated 4080 or something like that). So I don't think that's the issue.
That's actually really interesting- I did take apart the phone to do the thermal mod thing (wiped off the dried up pink gunk and put a thermal pad there), but it seemed pretty clean otherwise inside when I did. How on earth did you figure out that was the problem?
After speaking with some folks on Telegram, Reddit, and other corners of the internet, I have a different theory. A bunch of people told me to let the rom "settle", that battery life is never good after a fresh format or new rom flash. Honestly, the critical thinker in me says that sounds like nonsense. I've never heard of this before and I've been flashing roms for the better half of a decade. I'd think after it takes the time the load up your apps and settings and configure itself, it would be done. But I Googled it, and it seems to be a hotly debated subject.
Those that swear by it claim that whenever you start fresh or flash a new rom, it takes anywhere from one to a few battery cycles before the kernel calms down. Perhaps it is doing some sort of internal calibration based on your battery life and system demands or something like that. The theory seems to be that the Kernel doesn't allow the CPU to fully doze until it is done with this process, which sometimes takes days. I don't know, but the more I read about it, the more it sort of started sound plausible. When I got the phone, I tried out some things on it myself without a SIM card first, just to make sure everything on it checked out before giving it to the wife. Then, I did a hard reset, popped in her SIM card and let it do its thing. That's when we realized battery life was pretty terrible, as after 10-12 hours she already needed to charge... and this was on the 4100mah perfine!
I tried another hard reset, and when that didn't fix it, I decided it was time to root and see if I could get to the bottom of the bad battery. It seemed the kernel was where a lot of it currently went according to battery stat apps. After downgrading my H918 to Nougat so I could install TWRP, I promptly flashed Alpha Omega Oreo 20H and restored her apps. Turns out the next morning we couldn't sync her smartwatch, somehow we broke bluetooth (going into BT settings would crash the phone everytime). So weird, and while we were at it the battery life still wasn't great. So I did a hard reset that evening and found that even with nothing installed, BT was borked. (looking back at it, I think I should have flashed an Oreo rom like the stock 20H rooted first, and THEN the AO rom. I think going straight from nougat might have led to a driver mismatch or something)
Anyway, after that didn't work I flashed the stock rooted 20H rom, and lo and behold bluetooth and everything else is working again! But the battery has been bad all along and is still doing its generally suckiness thing.
BUT... as someone pointed out, if this kernel settle thing is real, I've been pretty much flashing and resetting this thing every other day. If roms need to "settle" first (still a debatable subject), than I never really gave it a chance yet and that's why I'm constantly seeing battery drain from things like Kernel even on different roms! And @pistacios, is it possible that you were having a kernel do the same thing since it was just reset and it just so happened to be that when it calibrated itself you thought you had fixed it by cleaning out the USB port?
All I know is I'm going to give this a couple of days before deciding on a plan B. Seems too simple to be the reason, but hey- I'm desperate.
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Ive experienced ROMs settling in and battery stabilizing after a few days. But this was pretty far back with the HTC M7 and M8. Most modern phone's I've flashed pretty well settled in within the first few hours. The battery life on this phone was never amazing. It was good to just Ok for most when it was new.
If you flashed the stock rooted rom and still had bad battery life, I still suspect the battery itself. I still recommend one of the battery I listed earlier. If the perfine didn't work out try a different one.
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clsA said:
Ive experienced ROMs settling in and battery stabilizing after a few days. But this was pretty far back with the HTC M7 and M8. Most modern phone's I've flashed pretty well settled in within the first few hours. The battery life on this phone was never amazing. It was good to just Ok for most when it was new.
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Right, with the stock 3200mah battery. With the Perfine 4100, a lot of reports are saying 6-7 hours SOT or at least a full day of regular use. That's good enough, really. Mine is dying at half of that. I'm wondering if I have faulty hardware. I could put the stock battery back in and see if it dies much sooner.
I'm actually wondering if someone can check their mA use per hour with the screen on vs off, and I can see if the numbers make sense on mine. Accubattery is pretty good at the math.
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And @pistacios, is it possible that you were having a kernel do the same thing since it was just reset and it just so happened to be that when it calibrated itself you thought you had fixed it by cleaning out the USB port?
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Phone was up and running for 2 weeks, so it wasn't due to fresh reset.
GSAM battery monitor showed kennel wakelock, something about USB OTG in the top of the list, so I figured the port was my first check for a problem, and it was. It wasn't obvious that there was dirt or foreign matter in there, because it looked clean. But sure enough, after the light brushing with 94% alcohol, the problem disappeared.
I'm not saying this is definitely your problem, just throwing it out there.