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Hey, everyone.
I bought my Mate 8 about two weeks ago. After my personal HTC-Desaster over the last year, i couldn't be happier.
The only thing, that keeps me wondering, is this current OS...
Sooooo, i'm saying it out loud to start the discussion ...
Does anyone know, if and when cm13 for the Mate 8 will be released?
Don't be so much disappointed, if answer will be "never" ))
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SanHelios said:
Hey, everyone.
I bought my Mate 8 about two weeks ago. After my personal HTC-Desaster over the last year, i couldn't be happier.
The only thing, that keeps me wondering, is this current OS...
Sooooo, i'm saying it out loud to start the discussion ...
Does anyone know, if and when cm13 for the Mate 8 will be released?
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Huawei Mate 7, much older device, also Kirin cpu = doomed = zero custom roms.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65503263&postcount=11
Mate 8 will also remain without CM13 :crying:
This ****ed up my evening!!
Filgaliel said:
This ****ed up my evening!!
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I'm right there with you...
Maybe, they will change their mind? I mean so many producers first said, they would never share the code, and suddenly they did.
I guess this is the dividing line...
I'm usually the one recommending phones to people and this phone is a great one, however, if there is no potential to get any AOSP/CM based ROMs on this device, then it is doomed from my recommendation on a large scale.
We should start a petition to change this, but I don't know who will join and if we will be loud enough to get them to listen.
What is the main blocker in this? Source code, vendor blobs, proprietary something-er-other? Is the Kirin impossible to get working because of proprietary drivers? Sounds like we just need more higher level devs to crack this? Maybe we can start a bounty to buy a phone for a dev that has a track record of cracking this kind if issue? Just brainstorming.
Techronico said:
I guess this is the dividing line...
I'm usually the one recommending phones to people and this phone is a great one, however, if there is no potential to get any AOSP/CM based ROMs on this device, then it is doomed from my recommendation on a large scale.
We should start a petition to change this, but I don't know who will join and if we will be loud enough to get them to listen.
What is the main blocker in this? Source code, vendor blobs, proprietary something-er-other? Is the Kirin impossible to get working because of proprietary drivers? Sounds like we just need more higher level devs to crack this? Maybe we can start a bounty to buy a phone for a dev that has a track record of cracking this kind if issue? Just brainstorming.
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I totally agree with you... This information is a huge game-changer. Kinda ruined my morning too... :crying:
Something needs to be done one way ot the other... petition, bounty. I personally am open to ANY solution.
SanHelios said:
I totally agree with you... This information is a huge game-changer. Kinda ruined my morning too... :crying:
Something needs to be done one way ot the other... petition, bounty. I personally am open to ANY solution.
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This is the link to the Ascend Mate 7 thread where they discuss this exact same issue. Maybe we can get some of them on board or get on board with them to push HW!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-7/orig-development/cm-13-0-development-discussion-thread-t3314538
Thx a lot. I just posted our discussion at their board, with an invitation to join us, if they wish. Since it's same problem, we are all facing, i thought it might help all of us to work together.
The processor huawei is using is cool fast battery friendly long lasting but at the same time unique.. So not much support.. I myself am ready to saxrify custom rom support for such a premium device[emoji14]
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That's nice to hear... but i'm not...
Even if the odds are quite slim for success, the least i can do is trying...
U should not buy a device thats understood to have low rom support.. Nexus suits you well friend
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http://consumer.huawei.com/en/search/index.htm?keywords=opensource
I honest to god admit, i'm not an expert, but is this what you need for the developement of a custom rom?
smjunaid said:
U should not buy a device thats understood to have low rom support.. Nexus suits you well friend
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No I shouldnt have.. Stupid stupid me!!!
Enjoy the Huawei Rom
Weird that some Huawei devices got cm13..
http://androidcommunity.com/cm13-nightly-builds-appear-for-the-huawei-ascend-mate-2-20160128/
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The processor huawei is using is cool fast battery friendly long lasting but at the same time unique.. So not much support.. I myself am ready to saxrify custom rom support for such a premium device[emoji14]
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I agree. On my last phone, HTC One M8, I have used CM for maybe a week TOTAL in 21 months. I have also used Google Play Edition ROM for maybe 2 months. I did not mind Sense ROMs as the performance was best with these, and they had good features as well.
Filgaliel said:
Weird that some Huawei devices got cm13..
http://androidcommunity.com/cm13-nightly-builds-appear-for-the-huawei-ascend-mate-2-20160128/
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Ascend Mate 2 has a Qualcomm processor.
ufoman said:
Ascend Mate 2 has a Qualcomm processor.
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Damn..
Have used CM13 on Samsung S4. Rom: great. Camera: worse.
Have used CM13 on LG G3. Rom: great. Camera: worse.
Have used CM13 on LG G4. Rom: great. Camera: worse.
Camera drivers are also often propietary. So if (will probably never happen) CM13 becomes a possibility for the Mate 8 there is always that issue as well.
I'd rather run a custom stock Rom with proper camera than an AOSP one without. And the Mate 8 is fast enough to be a great device, when using another launcher like Nova or Apex for example.
As always: YMMV, of course
This seems to have the best specifications of Samsung and HTC combined, additionally offering dual sim. For that price i can live just fine with a non-changable battery.
Seems like a very nice device. If it will be available in europe, and there's good support for custom roms here on xda, then it would be an alternative to Oneplus 3 for me.
I'm definitely getting this phone when it comes out. Can't wait to get rid of my G5. The thermal mitigation screen dim is killing me!
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If it had a Infrared blaster, I really would have.
missing infra but sure a HTC 10 killer in audio . in india iam waiting for it
Specs r great but I can't get over the black bars on the top and bottom of the screen
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Looks really nice
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Will wait for reviews about camera and battery
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allan1229 said:
Specs r great but I can't get over the black bars on the top and bottom of the screen
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thats stereo speakers
Definitely getting one, good specs, and good looks. did anyone see the gray version?
Interested in the non carrier unlocked phone. How is zte with updates on their previous axon phones? That's my main concern.
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I´ll hope that there will be some custom roms. On other ZTE threads here on XDA there´s barely community support. The specs are really nice and I have to decide between OP3 or Axon7
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I´ll hope that there will be some custom roms. On other ZTE threads here on XDA there´s barely community support. The specs are really nice and I have to decide between OP3 or Axon7
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that's what i am hoping too. it will be powered by snapdragon cpu which should make custom rom cooking easier than mediatek right?
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that's what i am hoping too. it will be powered by snapdragon cpu which should make custom rom cooking easier than mediatek right?
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Of course! But I never had a ZTE device. I know nothing of unlocking bootloader or rooting process on those devices.
But the specs! I hope we´ll have some nice devs thinking twice of this beast
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Of course! But I never had a ZTE device. I know nothing of unlocking bootloader or rooting process on those devices.
But the specs! I hope we´ll have some nice devs thinking twice of this beast
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i own a ZTE Blade A452 ATM got root and trying to make a custom rom, i have never done one before and i am more doing try and error. it ain't easy.
about the Axon 7 i hope Team Venom does get one
mclaren2 said:
i own a ZTE Blade A452 ATM got root and trying to make a custom rom, i have never done one before and i am more doing try and error. it ain't easy.
about the Axon 7 i hope Team Venom does get one
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Well let us surprise. I´m interested by the premium version with force touch and hope that the special drivers / blobs are open source
mamoo said:
allan1229 said:
Specs r great but I can't get over the black bars on the top and bottom of the screen
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thats stereo speakers
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I think allan1229 talks about the black bars between the speakers and the screen.
The black bars are a little annoying, that's true.
skeetz77 said:
Interested in the non carrier unlocked phone. How is zte with updates on their previous axon phones? That's my main concern.
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redukt said:
mclaren2 said:
it will be powered by snapdragon cpu which should make custom rom cooking easier than mediatek right?
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Of course! But I never had a ZTE device. I know nothing of unlocking bootloader or rooting process on those devices.
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Updates are important, espacially if there is barely Custom Rom support. I'm afraid of latter, on the other hand the Snapdragon SoC makes it easier. Maybe this will be my first try to port a Custom Rom.
I'm sure it will be possible to unlock the bootloader, even though that's just my feeling.
redukt said:
Well let us surprise. I´m interested by the premium version with force touch and hope that the special drivers / blobs are open source
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In my opinion force touch is absolutely useless. At the moment we have 3 options, single tap, double tap and long click, and if you want even more, triple tap, etc. Why would you need force touch? That's just a desperate attempt for innovation.
At the moment the ZTE Axon 7 is higher ranked for me that the OnePlus 3, especially because of the front facing speakers! If you had front facing speakers before, you want nothing else.
Cypher_01 said:
Updates are important, espacially if there is barely Custom Rom support. I'm afraid of latter, on the other hand the Snapdragon SoC makes it easier. Maybe this will be my first try to port a Custom Rom.
I'm sure it will be possible to unlock the bootloader, even though that's just my feeling.
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That´s my thoughts too. I give a f*** for manufactured updates if there´s any way to flash custom roms or develop an own one.
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In my opinion force touch is absolutely useless. At the moment we have 3 options, single tap, double tap and long click, and if you want even more, triple tap, etc. Why would you need force touch? That's just a desperate attempt for innovation.
At the moment the ZTE Axon 7 is higher ranked for me that the OnePlus 3, especially because of the front facing speakers! If you had front facing speakers before, you want nothing else.
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Well in this point I disagree with you. Force touch could and should be a kind of new interaction. It´s a question of implementation. You´re totally right for the existing "gestures" but I think in combination of this we´ve got new possibilities. There´s a lot of potential. But pls note - I don´t see the the advantage only on my side - I´m working with handicapped youngsters - and by some clients the force touch engine might be a positive progress
Front facing speakers... Meh.... I never used it BUT! The audio-chips are totally great!!! I´m a little bit audiophil. And I think the upgrade from my OP1 should be working "nice" for my headphones - specifically for my B&W P5 wireless
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Well in this point I disagree with you. Force touch could and should be a kind of new interaction. It´s a question of implementation. You´re totally right for the existing "gestures" but I think in combination of this we´ve got new possibilities. There´s a lot of potential. But pls note - I don´t see the the advantage only on my side - I´m working with handicapped youngsters - and by some clients the force touch engine might be a positive progress
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It's OK, that's totally subjective. I don't want to discourage anyone from getting force touch.
I don't know anything about how this could help handicapped people. But I still think there's no potential.
redukt said:
Front facing speakers... Meh.... I never used it BUT! The audio-chips are totally great!!! I´m a little bit audiophil. And I think the upgrade from my OP1 should be working "nice" for my headphones - specifically for my B&W P5 wireless
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I guess you never had front facing speakers before, but trust me, you don't want to live without them anymore. (Yeah, I know, that's also subjective)
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It's OK, that's totally subjective. I don't want to discourage anyone from getting force touch
I don't know anything about how this could help handicapped people. But I still think there's no potential.
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Well that´s my job Thinking of paraplegic clients and the ability to use the screen on much ways before. But this is still an example and very OT. Sorry for it.
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I guess you never had front facing speakers before, but trust me, you don't want to live without them anymore. (Yeah, I know, that's also subjective)
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Nope, I never find a reason to use front spacing speakers For exactly what? I´m some decades away to "publish" my musical preferences official over a smartphone.
Music is my intimacy
But this is really OT - get back to topic
Axon7! Will you buy it? I think so
redukt said:
Well that´s my job Thinking of paraplegic clients and the ability to use the screen on much ways before. But this is still an example and very OT. Sorry for it.
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It's OT, but no reason to apologize.
redukt said:
Nope, I never find a reason to use front spacing speakers For exactly what? I´m some decades away to "publish" my musical preferences official over a smartphone.
Music is my intimacy
But this is really OT - get back to topic
Axon7! Will you buy it? I think so
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It's funny, you want force touch and I want front facing speakers. So with the Axon 7 it's a win-win!
You're right, back to topic. I'm pretty sure I'll buy it. The only tiny flaw for me is the protruding camera lens. Unfortunately that's standard nowadays. But apart from this it's almost perfect in my opinion.
So some people may call me crazy, but will there ever be a MIUI ROM for the V20?
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So some people may call me crazy, but will there ever be a MIUI ROM for the V20?
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Not at the moment.. May be if the device gets popular
Ive ported MIUI in the past. I MIGHT do it again. problem being is I don't think MIUI is on Android N yet. I was actually thinking of porting it but right now is a no. Im about to switch jobs so everything is a tossup.
There's a beta of MIUI on 7.0, but hasn't been released. And even that, it's on an older, slower Qualcomm or MediaTek device. So we'd need to get a build from the Mi 5S Plus for us to be able to port.
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When I did MIUI previously I do not believe I actually did it from another device(it was like 4-6 years ago so i don't really remember). It just needed the same OS version.
MIUI 9
me2151 said:
When I did MIUI previously I do not believe I actually did it from another device(it was like 4-6 years ago so i don't really remember). It just needed the same OS version.
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Is it Possible with MIUI9?
deathhall said:
Is it Possible with MIUI9?
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Please don't bump threads that have been inactive for over a year.
deathhall said:
Is it Possible with MIUI9?
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I sure hope so. I just wonder if the second screen, dual rear cameras, camera app and the quad DAC will work afterwards on MIUI.
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Ilxaot said:
Please don't bump threads that have been inactive for over a year.
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Why not?
Wouldn't it be better than starting a new thread to ask the same question?
And, I'm guessing you'd be the first to tell us to "Use the search function"...
-SMH-
Hey guys, this phone seems really appealing but I'm struggling to find reliable reviews of it. Currently undecided between this and that Oneplus 5... Anyone in a similar situation or have an opinion to share?
Well - in terms of specs this phone is really appealing, but don't know if they are gonna release a global version of the device.
I am in the same situation
regarding the love that the rom creators will bring in, i think that the oneplus will be the better choice, but i like the nubia and it's specs.
Plus, the price is unbeatable.
Haha yeah, I don't think there'll be much ROM support for the Nubia Z17, but already a few weeks or so after release they've pushed out a new OTA update, as well as updates for other phones. Hopefully they'll be well supported with Android O :/
I live in the UK so will have to import this model anyway, and found a great deal on:
http://www.geekbuying.com/item/ZTE-Nubia-Z17-5-5-Inch-6GB-64GB-Smartphone---Black-380167.html
I used the Honey extension on Chrome and that saved me £20! It doesn't tell me what the code is unfortunately, so can't post it here for any that are interested.
I checked the bands/frequencies and it covers the UK ones I require, and it's a 'worldwide' model. It just seems a bit strange to me that even on the Nubia/ZTE site it's not on there. But I'm gonna go for it...
Plus those edge control gestures seem to actually be loads better than the Samsung and HTC U11 ones... Correct me if I'm wrong though!
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Haha yeah, I don't think there'll be much ROM support for the Nubia Z17, but already a few weeks or so after release they've pushed out a new OTA update, as well as updates for other phones. Hopefully they'll be well supported with Android O :/
I live in the UK so will have to import this model anyway, and found a great deal on:
http://www.geekbuying.com/item/ZTE-Nubia-Z17-5-5-Inch-6GB-64GB-Smartphone---Black-380167.html
I used the Honey extension on Chrome and that saved me £20! It doesn't tell me what the code is unfortunately, so can't post it here for any that are interested.
I checked the bands/frequencies and it covers the UK ones I require, and it's a 'worldwide' model. It just seems a bit strange to me that even on the Nubia/ZTE site it's not on there. But I'm gonna go for it...
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How much did you end up paying?
ermacwins said:
How much did you end up paying?
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£350 (not £20 in the end, just £10)
I have one and it's beautiful. Build and feel of the device is amazing. Problem is there is no Google Play/Framework support yet and no root or TWRP. So I'm pretty much waiting. I hear some suppliers are shipping them with global ROM's with Google support.
If anyone can link me to a Global ROM it would be greatly appreciated. Can't wait to fully utilize this beast!
So how is the camera quality?
ermacwins said:
So how is the camera quality?
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Beat review and camera samples I could find:
https://www.gizmochina.com/2017/06/...rt-features-amazing-camera-makes-worth-money/
I've also seen comparisons between this, Xiaomi Mi6 and Huawei P10 cameras where this seems to outperform them
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So how is the camera quality?
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Haven't done any comprehensive testing with it yet. But from my short time with it, it's really nice and has some cool features. I always enjoy Nubia's camera software suite.
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terrapin4 said:
Haven't done any comprehensive testing with it yet. But from my short time with it, it's really nice and has some cool features. I always enjoy Nubia's camera software suite.
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Do they release their kernel sources early?
ermacwins said:
Do they release their kernel sources early?
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Not that I have seen. I check out the Nubia forums daily to see if there's any development
正在使用z17，唯一困扰我的就是目前不能解锁bl和root，我期待能够使用原生的android rom，nubia ui真的不好用
娇身冠养 said:
正在使用z17，唯一困扰我的就是目前不能解锁bl和root，我期待能够使用原生的android rom，nubia ui真的不好用
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English ?
DON AMIGO said:
English ?
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Is using z17, the only trouble I am now can not unlock bl and root, I look forward to be able to use the original android rom, nubia ui really hard to use
Does anyone think it's weird that there aren't many reviews and basically no xda forum on the Z17? Is it just because it's mainly confined to China for now (despite there being a global version available to buy/import online)? Kinda starting to question my purchase now XD
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Does anyone think it's weird that there aren't many reviews and basically no xda forum on the Z17? Is it just because it's mainly confined to China for now (despite there being a global version available to buy/import online)? Kinda starting to question my purchase now XD
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It's still a very new phone. Forum pages on here take a while to spin up for rare Chinese phones. Things will slowly begin to develop and trickle in.
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ermacwins said:
Is using z17, the only trouble I am now can not unlock bl and root, I look forward to be able to use the original android rom, nubia ui really hard to use
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Thank you for your translation
This phone goes toe to toe with OP5 but better priced. If kernel sources are made available then we'll see development for sure.
It seems to me as if production of this phone has stopped. Is that true? I can hardly buy a new phone on Amazon and prices for them are pretty high lately.
Does anybody know anything?
If that phone is not available anymore, is there any other recent phone which runs Lineage and is less than 200€?
The xiaomi redmi note 5 pro already has an official lineage 15.1 release, so you might wanna check that out.
Hi,
thank you for the reply.
auxillium said:
The xiaomi redmi note 5 pro already has an official lineage 15.1 release, so you might wanna check that out.
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Seems to be unavailable in Germany. Or is "pro" the same als "plus": https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07CZS8W5Y
Edit: seems that LOS is working for that phone: https://www.amazon.de/ask/questions/Tx9VH4UFC499GY
I think the link you sent is the right one. Just make sure it's the one with the Snapdragon 636. Xiaomi (and other retailers) can really mess up with the names.
Redmi Note 5 Pro specs: https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_redmi_note_5_pro-8893.php
Redmi Note 5: https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_redmi_note_5_(redmi_5_plus)-8959.php
Here's one with the 6GB variant from Aliexpress:https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-Xiaomi-Redmi-Note-5-6GB-RAM-64GB-ROM-Snapdragon-S636-Octa-Core-Mobile-Phone-5/32858182302.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.30.78172ad6t6skYW&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_2_10065_10068_5727215_204_318_10059_10884_5727315_10887_10696_100031_10084_10083_10103_452_10618_10307_532,searchweb201603_60,ppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=b5b22fd6-74ab-420a-aab2-ec3a7958ac90-3&algo_pvid=b5b22fd6-74ab-420a-aab2-ec3a7958ac90&transAbTest=ae803_4&priceBeautifyAB=0
auxillium said:
xiaomi redmi note 5 pro
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IPS instead of AMOLED and no front-firing stereo speakers. Looks nice, but is nothing special.
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IPS instead of AMOLED and no front-firing stereo speakers. Looks nice, but is nothing special.
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I mean, he was asking for a phone that supports lineage, and this just happened to come to my mind first. Aside from what you mentioned, and lack of Hi-Fi, the specs are pretty good I think.
auxillium said:
The xiaomi redmi note 5 pro already has an official lineage 15.1
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I read that Xiaomi set waiting time up to two month before allowing the unlocking of a bootloader! I wouldn't want to wait such a long time to start using LOS on the device.
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I read that Xiaomi set waiting time up to two month before allowing the unlocking of a bootloader!
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Can you post a link to that information please?
der_stephan said:
Can you post a link to that information please?
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Sorry, I forgot to paste the link into the post. Here it is: https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-2-month-wait-unlock-bootloader/
You should check if it is that way today.