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Hi sailors out there
When I'm going to read through the available sailfish threads the question about how to set up multirom & sailfish have been asked many times. So I thought I'm writing this little guide. I describe the procedure along the nexus 4 mako. But it have to be very similar on other devices like nexus 5 for example. The important parts that differs from mako are the kernel and modem image you've to use. I will describe the easiest way in my opinion. Experienced users have more capabilities to reach the goal. I will not describe how to install twrp recovery and unlock bootloader. Both are prequesites. Please use xda search or google to get this. But this little guide want's to be simple as possible. So let's begin .
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Beginning:
First we have to detect you're actual setup and where you want to go. Because nexus 4 is up to date I think the most common goal is to run android 4.4 as primary and sailfish os as secondary. Atm I have only paranoidandroid 4.4 on my device and will show you how to get everything working.
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Requirements / Download following parts:
kernel aosp: http://d-h.st/A99
kernel cm: http://d-h.st/CCn
aosp = android open source rom. Ask in you're rom thread what version you're on with the rom
cm = cyanogen mod rom. Ask in you're rom thread what version you're on with the rom
Modem for nexus4 in version 0.84: http://d-h.st/cIJ
or
through an app in play store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bpear.makomodem&hl=de
sailfishOS ea4: http://releases.sailfishos.org/sfa-ea/sailfishos-mako-release-1.0.8.19-EA4.zip
cm 10.1.3: http://get.cm/get/aWH
Multirom manager in play store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tassadar.multirommgr&hl=de
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Before we're going on check up the following
1. All zip's you've downloaded have to be transferred on the device
2. Apps from play store are installed
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Installation process
Reboot in twrp recovery
Flash the new kernel
Flash the modem 0.84 in twrp. Or via the modem flasher from playstore. It's you're decision.
Boot back into android
Proof the functionality in android withe the new modem and kernel. Wlan working? Bluetooth? NFC?
Open mutlirom manager. Follow the installation steps.
After some time you'll be back in android. You have now the right modem, kernel and and a twrp multirom version on you're device
After this. Please reboot back into twrp recovery
There select the advanced button.
Then the multirom button
Select add rom and mark up the entry sailfish os
Press next.
Now you can choose two zip files to flash
zip1: Select the cm10.1.3 zip file
zip2: Select the sailfish EA4 zip file
Installation process is beginning.
After this select reboot
You automatically went into multirom where you can cancel the automatic boot process for the primary rom. Then you can select which rom you want to start.
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And the most important thing is to read: http://forum.xda-developers.com/jolla-sailfish/general/qa-sailfish-n4-thread-devices-t2727330 for further question before you ask. I have described there many things to start with sailfish. If you find this useful think about to press the thanks button.
I'm a bit confused why do you insist on updating the modem? I checked my modem version and it is newer so I imagine there is no need to update. Also why use such an old version ov CM?
Just asking because I did all according to your instructions except I used newer CM build and didn't update my modem firmware as it was already newer. But for some reason Sailfish wont boot. It just hangs showing Google at start.
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I'm a bit confused why do you insist on updating the modem? I checked my modem version and it is newer so I imagine there is no need to update. Also why use such an old version ov CM?
Just asking because I did all according to your instructions except I used newer CM build and didn't update my modem firmware as it was already newer. But for some reason Sailfish wont boot. It just hangs showing Google at start.
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lol. and you ask why it won't work? It gave reasons for the instructions. Also look in the linked q&a thread at the bottom of first post. And here for you the relaese notes. Hope things becomes clear now. enjoy
Release Notes:
This release is based on SailfishOS 1.0.8.19 (Tahkalampi).
The Nexus 4 port is considered to be of alpha quality.
Though depending on your usage it might be stable enough for daily use.
Download & installation instructions:
* Install adb and fastboot
a. Debian/Ubuntu: apt-get install android-tools-adb android-tools-fastboot
b. Fedora: yum install android-tools
c. Mac OS X: Install Homebrew from http://brew.sh/, then: brew install android-platform-tools
d. Windows: See http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Doc:_fastboot_intro for instructions
MultiROM ≥v28 ability is in the image. See options of how to layout your MultiROM in #2 post below.
Alternatively, just have it as your primary ROM:
* Install Android 4.2.2 (JDQ39) to your Nexus 4
a. Instructions here: https://developers.google.com/androi...s#instructions
b. Download links can be found here: https://developers.google.com/androi...ges#occamjdq39
* Download CyanogenMod 10.1.3 for your Nexus 4
a. Perform Factory Reset and wipe contents of the /data/ partition in case of leftovers from previous ROMs
b. The file you want to download is cm-10.1.3-mako.zip
c. Download links can be found here: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_mako
* Download the Sailfish OS for Android image for "mako"
a. The file you want to download is http://releases.sailfishos.org/sfa-e...0.8.19-EA4.zip
b. Another flavour filled with demo content: http://releases.sailfishos.org/sfa-e...mo-content.zip
* Install CyanogenMod 10.1.3 on your Nexus 4
a. Follow the instructions at: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_mako
* After flashing the "cm-10.1.3-mako.zip" file, flash the Sailfish OS .zip file in the same way ("on top of it")
* Reboot bootloader, Sailfish OS should boot and be visible
We recommend reading through http://jolla.com/guide/ -- some parts may not apply to Nexus 4
HW Support status:
(Look for Nexus 4 row): https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris
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Also I stated in first post why I only described the way I've did
Ahh ok nevermind got it working once I used the older CM image. Wifi seems not to be working but I guess that is because I didn't downgrade my modem firmware. I guess I'll wait for a more stable builde or better yet buy a Jolla phone. Just like having the nexus 4 as I can test bunch of operating systems on it.
anttimonty said:
Ahh ok nevermind got it working once I used the older CM image. Wifi seems not to be working but I guess that is because I didn't downgrade my modem firmware. I guess I'll wait for a more stable builde or better yet buy a Jolla phone. Just like having the nexus 4 as I can test bunch of operating systems on it.
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yes. that's a great benefit of this device Do you like sailfish?
With modem version 0.84 you have all parts working in sailfish and android
Ok thanks for the hint. I used to be one of the early adopters of Jolla, but couldn't use it as my daily phone so I sold it, but now that the OS has matured I think I maybe swithing back. Even though I still think Nokia N9 had far better UI experience. If only some would port N9 UI to Sailfish
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Ok thanks for the hint. I used to be one of the early adopters of Jolla, but couldn't use it as my daily phone so I sold it, but now that the OS has matured I think I maybe swithing back. Even though I still think Nokia N9 had far better UI experience. If only some would port N9 UI to Sailfish
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I feel the same, don't know why, but i just loved the N9 and the way the OS worked. I am not saying that sailfish is bad or something, but there Are somethings missing ...
v3ng3anc32002 said:
I feel the same, don't know why, but i just loved the N9 and the way the OS worked. I am not saying that sailfish is bad or something, but there Are somethings missing ...
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They've practically done nothing since pre-release to improve and refine the UI, and so many incredibly basic features are missing (voicemail notifications, global copy and paste etc). The pulley menus are ropey and the active covers feature hasn't really been made use of much. They seem to be mainly concentrating on the Jolla Launcher for Android, which will definitely make them higher profile ... but if all their software engineers and UX guys are working on that instead of Sailfish itself, then it seems like cutting off their nose to spite their face.
I'm not a fan of Android and I can't see myself ever using WP or iOS, but the lack of progress and their production priorities are a bit dispiriting. I'm hoping that they're holding a lot of big and waited for improvements for update 1.1 (October).
Anyway, I'll keep it as my main phone for a bit longer, despite the fact that I have a Z3C coming early next week. Hope to see a decent Sailfish port for it soon.
mudnightoil said:
They've practically done nothing since pre-release to improve and refine the UI, and so many incredibly basic features are missing (voicemail notifications, global copy and paste etc). The pulley menus are ropey and the active covers feature hasn't really been made use of much. They seem to be mainly concentrating on the Jolla Launcher for Android, which will definitely make them higher profile ... but if all their software engineers and UX guys are working on that instead of Sailfish itself, then it seems like cutting off their nose to spite their face.
I'm not a fan of Android and I can't see myself ever using WP or iOS, but the lack of progress and their production priorities are a bit dispiriting. I'm hoping that they're holding a lot of big and waited for improvements for update 1.1 (October).
Anyway, I'll keep it as my main phone for a bit longer, despite the fact that I have a Z3C coming early next week. Hope to see a decent Sailfish port for it soon.
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hope the same for the z1c, but don't how is the chance to see this port (soon or later).
Works nicely on my n4. Looking for getting gapps to run....
mudnightoil said:
They seem to be mainly concentrating on the Jolla Launcher for Android, which will definitely make them higher profile ... but if all their software engineers and UX guys are working on that instead of Sailfish itself, then it seems like cutting off their nose to spite their face.
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This is just wrong
mudnightoil said:
I have a Z3C coming early next week. Hope to see a decent Sailfish port for it soon.
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I bought a z1c after my N9 broke and I totally regret it. But I'll go on and try using it with Sailfish one day
paulle said:
hope the same for the z1c, but don't how is the chance to see this port (soon or later).
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I tried using the hadk but like some other devices, there are gpu-problems with the z1c (see https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris/gpu).
Keep an eye on IRC logs and on the status matrix in mer wiki
sorry for off-topic
iuno said:
This is just wrong
I bought a z1c after my N9 broke and I totally regret it. But I'll go on and try using it with Sailfish one day
I tried using the hadk but like some other devices, there are gpu-problems with the z1c (see https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris/gpu).
Keep an eye on IRC logs and on the status matrix in mer wiki
sorry for off-topic
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thank you for information, followed your links to look at. It seems there for the z1c is a lot of remaining, we will need patience.
iuno said:
I bought a z1c after my N9 broke and I totally regret it. But I'll go on and try using it with Sailfish one day
I tried using the hadk but like some other devices, there are gpu-problems with the z1c (see https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris/gpu).
Keep an eye on IRC logs and on the status matrix in mer wiki
sorry for off-topic
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Don't think I'll regret getting the Z3C, from a hardware perspective ... held one the other day, as a friend had been gifted one by Sony. It's absolutely superb. Granted, I despise Android .. but for when the Jolla ****s itself / runs out of battery / when GPS or a camera is needed / roaming / skype /outdoor use, I can suffer it until there's a Sailfish port.
Hopefully as work is already under way for the One Plus One, the identical SoC used in the Z3 & Z3C won't be too much additional work.
For all the moaning and groaning about Mediatek, I'm guessing the simplest and best port of Sailfish will probably be for the Meizu MX4, as there'll be an Ubuntu ROM for it, and libhybris is used by Ubuntu Phone ...
Also, hopefully future iterations of the HADK will smooth out some of the problems porters are facing.
mudnightoil said:
Don't think I'll regret getting the Z3C, from a hardware perspective
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it's the same for me...
The SoC in your z3c and 1+1 is actually the same as in z1c, I guess – 8974 vs 8974ac – only higher clocked.
You should not suppose that mediatek SoCs will be easier in general just because of is one working device. Jolla runs a Snapdragon and it works perfectly, most of the devices sailfish is currently ported to run snapdragons – with very different results.
iuno said:
it's the same for me...
The SoC in your z3c and 1+1 is actually the same as in z1c, I guess – 8974 vs 8974ac – only higher clocked.
You should not suppose that mediatek SoCs will be easier in general just because of is one working device. Jolla runs a Snapdragon and it works perfectly, most of the devices sailfish is currently ported to run snapdragons – with very different results.
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I wasn't saying Mediatek in general will be easier (though it's possible), but any device with an official Ubuntu ROM certainly will (should) be - Meizu MX4 (Mediatek) is the first of those.
P.S. The Z3C is fantastic ... though unfortunately in black as opposed to the red I ordered (it's being swapped tomorrow).
Thank you very much for these instructions. i have one question though. In order to download CM 10.1.3, it says to click that link which takes you to download CM installer app. Ive used that app before and as far as I kmow, it doesnt let you choose which version of CM you want to install, instead it just sets you up to install the newest CM 11. I downloaded 10.1.3 from their site. Either way, no big deal.
Also, which kernel do I download to install? Aosp or CM?
Thank you
Still up to date
Hi,
are these steps still up to date or should we follow a different set up guide to install the latest sailfish OS on the Nexus 4? Because most, if not all, the links on the first page end up 404...
Bluetooth sync from Jolla to Nexus 4
Flashed my Nexus 4 with the factory 4.2.2 from google with radio .48 and then flashed cm-10.1-20131003-SNAPSHOT-TREATFORCOOPER-mako-signed.zip because that seemed to be the 10.1.3 mentioned in the guides to end up flashing the latest sfos from this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/development/rom-sailfish-os-community-port-t2969823.
I didn't try calling, it has 3G network working and wifi is working but I can't seem to get the contacts from my Jolla phone using the Bluetooth sync from the settings.
Anybody has some advice on this?
Just had a good look at the wiki of devices on the mer website and found out the bluetooth is not yet working on the Nexus 4...
Works perfectly on my oneplus one
See: https://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/development/lineageos-unofficial-builds-h815-t3726177
So, one can just flash this over the most recent official build, using e.g. TWRP? I mean, one doesn't have to wipe or anything like that?
Also, just curious, how much work was it getting from the last official to this, in terms of time spent "changing code"?
Wuddelchen said:
So, one can just flash this over the most recent official build, using e.g. TWRP? I mean, one doesn't have to wipe or anything like that?
Also, just curious, how much work was it getting from the last official to this, in terms of time spent "changing code"?
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I think you can't flash this over the latest official build, because of the different signatures. I haven't tryed it, so I don't know, but I guess it won't work.
If you try it, write back if it works or not, so that other users know
I haven't changed the code of lineage, since it works so far without changes.
It is nearly vanilla lineage, just with updated:
- security patches
- features
- proprietary blobs
Bleuzen said:
I think you can't flash this over the latest official build, because of the different signatures. I haven't tryed it, so I don't know, but I guess it won't work.
If you try it, write back if it works or not, so that other users know
I haven't changed the code of lineage, since it works so far without changes.
It is nearly vanilla lineage, just with updated:
- security patches
- features
- proprietary blobs
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Well, you can't flash over it, that much I can tell.
I just wonder how long the official build is gonna take, the phone is "new" (empty), but still, it takes time to set stuff up after a wipe...
Wuddelchen said:
Well, you can't flash over it, that much I can tell.
I just wonder how long the official build is gonna take, the phone is "new" (empty), but still, it takes time to set stuff up after a wipe...
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Nobody knows. The bug exists since 2017-04-30, but nothing happens. And until the bug is not fixed, we don't get new official builds.
If you want to take the time to wipe and (re)setup your device is your decision.
But if you have the time, I would recommend it, mainly because of the security updates.
Do you know that I build unofficial? https://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/development/rom-lineage-os-14-1-lg-g4-t3704019
But we are now focused on Oreo. AOSCP is ready, I should have LOS 15 done in January. Do want to help us? We can add you to our telegram group.
tulen_kobi said:
Do you know that I build unofficial? https://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/development/rom-lineage-os-14-1-lg-g4-t3704019
But we are now focused on Oreo. AOSCP is ready, I should have LOS 15 done in January. Do want to help us? We can add you to our telegram group.
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No, I didn't know that
Uh, there is work going on? This is great! I thought the device is dead, because nothing happens anymore on the LineageOS GitHub page for it. There is still no LOS 15.0 or 15.1 branch.
Great to her that there is still developing going on
Well, I help where I can. But I'm new to Android.
I have experience with Linux, use it every day, and now I know how to build LineageOS. I also can do Java programming.
But I never developed something with Android already. So I don't know how much I can help.
Bleuzen said:
I thought the device is dead, because nothing happens anymore on the LineageOS GitHub page for it. There is still no LOS 15.0 or 15.1 branch.
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I'm pretty sure that LG has announced they will release an official Oreo build for the G4.
Perhaps the LOS people are waiting for that to happen so they can use some of their sources as a jumping-off point for LOS Oreo? I got the impression that happens in some cases but I'm not a dev so not clear on the specifics.
Exabyter said:
I'm pretty sure that LG has announced they will release an official Oreo build for the G4.
Perhaps the LOS people are waiting for that to happen so they can use some of their sources as a jumping-off point for LOS Oreo? I got the impression that happens in some cases but I'm not a dev so not clear on the specifics.
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Where did you read this? I never read this somewhere and I don't think that there will ever be an official Oreo build for the G4.
They not even bring Nougat to all G4s, why they should work on Oreo for this old device?
I think from LGs side, the G4 is dead.
Bleuzen said:
Where did you read this? I never read this somewhere and I don't think that there will ever be an official Oreo build for the G4.
They not even bring Nougat to all G4s, why they should work on Oreo for this old device?
I think from LGs side, the G4 is dead.
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Hmm, perhaps I confused it with one of the other devices I had been investigating as a possible future project. (Eg, the HTC 10, LG V20, Moto Z, etc)
Someone in the following thread claimed it would happen for the G4, but others disputed it and a quick web search tends to reinforce that:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-g4/general/android-8-0-oreo-thread-h811-t3680209
On the other hand, I think these people have released an Oreo ROM for the G4:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/development/g4-cypheros-t3680102
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Hmm, perhaps I confused it with one of the other devices I had been investigating as a possible future project. (Eg, the HTC 10, LG V20, Moto Z, etc)
Someone in the following thread claimed it would happen for the G4, but others disputed it and a quick web search tends to reinforce that:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-g4/general/android-8-0-oreo-thread-h811-t3680209
On the other hand, I think these people have released an Oreo ROM for the G4:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/development/g4-cypheros-t3680102
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Yep, looks good. I already tryed Oreo but it isn't complete already. But I'm looking forward to use and recommend it as new daily driver when it's ready
Hello, i was in the process of finding out how to compile Dot OS rom to share here but realized that my my computer isnt strong enough to do so. Is there anyone willing to compile the rom for those of us who would like to use it? please and thanks. Also, if asking for a rom is in violation of anything please remove this post ;D
That would be great
I am actually planning to do a personal build of DotOS, if I succeed I will share it. (this only depends on my internet connection - which is slow: I will probably buy a VPS to do so).
That great yes
I didn't see this beforehand but I'm actually compiling a build of Dot-OS 2.4 based on 8.1 oreo Right now.
By all means, if someone was planning on maintaining unofficial builds be my guest. Still, I'll post my build on this comment when it's done in an hour or so.. Made with los tree, kernel and muppets vendor.
edit: I removed my build because of some issues with system overlays
AnierinB said:
I didn't see this beforehand but I'm actually compiling a build of Dot-OS 2.4 based on 8.1 oreo Right now.
By all means, if someone was planning on maintaining unofficial builds be my guest. Still, I'll post my build on this comment when it's done in an hour or so.. Made with los tree, kernel and muppets vendor.
edit: well here is my build based on the mentioned sources https://androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=279723
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I actually wasn't planning to maintain it, you are free to do so. I successfully built my own version as well, but I have some issues with DotUICenter - basically the overlays do not work.
I am trying to download your build but AFH has a temporary mirror and it's extremely slow (60 to 80KB/s). Do the overlays work on your build?
Hello Any news about rom thanks
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Hello Any news about rom thanks
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Well I've personally discontinued work due to some overlay issues that I don't have the time to look into and fix.
The Osprey Oracle
It's been a while.
If you don't know me, I was active here a few years ago and created the FAQ thread.
I got out of the community for a while but I'm amazed at how strong the osprey development still is, so I plan to Frankenstein my model up to a 16GB/2GB and get back into it. So in that spirit, I want to go back to my RC roots and create a thread for everyone with the most up-to-date info to help keep this device alive.
I've called it the Osprey Oracle as it's more catchy than Moto G 2015 Oracle, but Merlin stuff will be here too.
My general philosophy in compiling this is to create a database of currently maintained or at least recent development, to enable users to find a ROM that is secure and supported. This means, more specifically, ROMs which are still being updated with the latest security patches; this is why you'll find some older versions such as Nougat in this list, because some very generous members are still compiling them with these patches. That means lots of things will be missing, however; if you disagree and would like a fuller, more historical database, let me know.
GUIDES:
To learn how to unlock bootloader, root, etc., I'll point you first towards my own FAQ Thread as it's all in there
For repairs, check out ifixit; eBay is the best place to buy parts
RECOVERIES:
Official TWRP 3.x.x-x for osprey
Unofficial TWRP 3.x.x-x for osprey/merlin with support for separate vendor partition
Unofficial red themed TWRP 3.x.x-x for osprey
ROMS:
Android Q
Official LinageOS 17.1 for osprey
Official crDroid 6.x for osprey
Unofficial LineageOS 17.1 for merlin
Official MalluOS 1.x for osprey
Unofficial MalluOS 1.x for merlin
Unofficial FlokoRom v 3.0 for osprey
Pie
Unofficial LineageOS 16.0, hardened w/ microG or just security patches
Unofficial LineageOS 16.0 for osprey
Official Resurrection Remix 7.0.2 for osprey
Official crDroid 5.x for osprey
Unofficial Resurrection Remix 7.0.2 for merlin
Everything below is no longer updated but kept for reference:
Oreo
Unofficial LineageOS 15.1
Nougat
Unofficial LineageOS 14.1, hardened w/ microG or just security patches
Unofficial LineageOS 14.1
Non-Android
Sailfish OS for Osprey
Stock (Lollipop - Marshmallow)
Motorola ROM Collection
Thank you very much for your thread.!!!
It is what I was looking for. I am trying to make quicker a relative´s Moto G 2015 and your thread has been very useful.
Warm greetings.
Good list but can you include the 14.1 stock images
I think under Nougat you should also include the link to the Stock 14.1 LinageOS + patches. Not everyone is concerned about Google and replacing them with microG.
Personally I've found sticking with Android 7.1 is best with this model of phone. Everything works out of the box, and it doesn't slow down.
Thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/2015-moto-g/orig-development/rom-unofficial-cyanogenmod-14-t3466246
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I think under Nougat you should also include the link to the Stock 14.1 LinageOS + patches. Not everyone is concerned about Google and replacing them with microG.
Personally I've found sticking with Android 7.1 is best with this model of phone. Everything works out of the box, and it doesn't slow down.
Thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/2015-moto-g/orig-development/rom-unofficial-cyanogenmod-14-t3466246
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Just added, didn't realise anybody was still building it with the latest patches. fyi MSe1969's microG build simply provides the option of using microG if you want, you still have the choice to then actually install the microG apps or just flash GApps as normal.
Interesting, I've been very happy on Android 10.0 but as I don't use GApps that's a significant resource reduction before any other apps are installed, of which I don't have many. Recently upgraded my Osprey to the 2GB RAM version as well, which helps.
It's great we have so many options though, all the way from 7.1 - 10! Which is what I hope this thread will show and help members with.
Is Lineage OS 17.1 official now? I can see it on the Lineage OS website.
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Is Lineage OS 17.1 official now? I can see it on the Lineage OS website.
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Oh yeah it is! Thanks for reminding me, will update the list
Hey all, a chance for opinions if anyone has any before I go ahead:
In terms of Pie ROMs, LineageOS 16 (as well as the hardened micro G version) and Resurrection Remix 7 are no longer updated. The former is a few months old but the latter getting on for a year. So not terrible in terms of security updates compared to an OEM, but given that TheForce is still maintaining a crDroid Pie ROM would people be happy with me going ahead and removing LineageOS and Resurrectiong Remix from the list? Other option is to add a 'Pie' heading to the 'no longer updated' list I've added to the bottom? I want the main point to be that you can see secure and updated ROMs easily at the top but I understand people are interested in tinkering so might want them there for archival purposes.
That aside, just added FlokoRom, another one TheForce is maintaining, and MalluOS. Decent smattering of 5 up-to-date Android 10 ROMs for the Moto G3 now! Pretty amazing.
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Hey all, a chance for opinions if anyone has any before I go ahead:
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would people be happy with me going ahead and removing LineageOS and Resurrectiong Remix from the list? Other option is to add a 'Pie' heading to the 'no longer updated' list I've added to the bottom? I want the main point to be that you can see secure and updated ROMs easily at the top but I understand people are interested in tinkering so might want them there for archival purposes.
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I think it would be nice to keep old roms listed, for historical reasons.
In my case, I'm still on resurrection remix 5.7.4 (MM 6.0.1) with squid kernel 23. It's running nicely, and I'm still reluctant to upgrade it because I'm afraid of losing some functionality (camera and viper4Android both are doing great in this Rom and kernel)
Thanks for maintaining this list. I'd like it to also include a list of kernels
Cheers
gg2001 said:
I think it would be nice to keep old roms listed, for historical reasons.
In my case, I'm still on resurrection remix 5.7.4 (MM 6.0.1) with squid kernel 23. It's running nicely, and I'm still reluctant to upgrade it because I'm afraid of losing some functionality (camera and viper4Android both are doing great in this Rom and kernel)
Thanks for maintaining this list. I'd like it to also include a list of kernels
Cheers
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Hmmm I'll think about kernels, main reason I hadn't is because there aren't any still maintained, and none for ROMs post Oreo afaik. Would go against the ethos of the list and I don't want to get into just making a massive archive, when you get the same effect searching "kernel" in the dev forums. Whereas with ROMs it can be tricky for new users to differentiate which are currently maintained, getting security updates etc.
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Hmmm I'll think about kernels, main reason I hadn't is because there aren't any still maintained, and none for ROMs post Oreo afaik. Would go against the ethos of the list and I don't want to get into just making a massive archive, when you get the same effect searching "kernel" in the dev forums. Whereas with ROMs it can be tricky for new users to differentiate which are currently maintained, getting security updates etc.
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Isn't smartpack kernel currently maintained? (by someone in the Brazilian osprey group in telegram. It's currently in version 12.1 iirc and it's for Oreo, Pie and Q)
I understand that mixing kernel list here may be a little excessive, specially when most of them are abandoned.. but then it took me some time to get to smartpack kernel, because in xda it appears as abandoned, but it's currently maintained.
HTCDreamOn said:
so I plan to Frankenstein my model up to a 16GB/2GB and get back into it.
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May I ask how you're going to do that? I've been interested in doing that for a long time, I have a 16GB/1GB version and I'd love to upgrade to a 16GB/2GB SoC.
AhReLocazo said:
May I ask how you're going to do that? I've been interested in doing that for a long time, I have a 16GB/1GB version and I'd love to upgrade to a 16GB/2GB SoC.
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I just bought a 16GB/2GB osprey with a smashed screen (so v cheap) and swapped the motherboard. I suppose rather than upgrading it, I replaced the phone itself and performed a screen repair... depends how you want to look at it aha. It's a very easy phone to take apart though, just be careful with your plectrum when you pry the screen off because if you do it too quickly you can end up with bright spots / dead pixels where you've accidentally pulled the exterior glass away from the LCD. A soldering iron makes a good pseudo-heat-gun if you don't have one of those to melt the screen glue.
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I just bought a 16GB/2GB osprey with a smashed screen (so v cheap) and swapped the motherboard. I suppose rather than upgrading it, I replaced the phone itself and performed a screen repair... depends how you want to look at it aha. It's a very easy phone to take apart though, just be careful with your plectrum when you pry the screen off because if you do it too quickly you can end up with bright spots / dead pixels where you've accidentally pulled the exterior glass away from the LCD. A soldering iron makes a good pseudo-heat-gun if you don't have one of those to melt the screen glue.
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Oh I didn't think about a mobo replacement, easier than a SoC replacement I was thinking hahaha
The G3 wasn't sold by carriers where I live so it would be pretty difficult to find a 2GB/16GB model. I guess I'll try ebay or similar.
Regarding the bright spots, for some reason mine has some even though it wasn't taken apart.
I'll try doing the same as you, wish me luck finding a donor device hahaha
Thanks for the reply!
Can you add these MERLIN ROMs to the list -
Project Sakura 2.Q (support is dropped now but its just a month old)
link - https://sourceforge.net/projects/projectsakura/files/merlin/
https://projectsakura.xyz/download.html
MalluOS 1.3 Chicken
link - https://forum.xda-developers.com/2015-moto-g/development/rom-malluos-1-3-chicken-t4162203
CrDroid v6.9 ( there is no xda thread )
link - https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=8889791610682922059
Charlie-117 said:
Can you add these MERLIN ROMs to the list -
Project Sakura 2.Q (support is dropped now but its just a month old)
link - https://sourceforge.net/projects/projectsakura/files/merlin/
https://projectsakura.xyz/download.html
MalluOS 1.3 Chicken
link - https://forum.xda-developers.com/2015-moto-g/development/rom-malluos-1-3-chicken-t4162203
CrDroid v6.9 ( there is no xda thread )
link - https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=8889791610682922059
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Thanks, I'm not adding Project Sakura because I won't list ROMs that get 1 release and no further development. I think I'll give crDroid a miss also as there is no thread.
I'll add MalluOS though, thanks.
HTCDreamOn said:
Thanks, I'm not adding Project Sakura because I won't list ROMs that get 1 release and no further development. I think I'll give crDroid a miss also as there is no thread.
I'll add MalluOS though, thanks.
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Understandable , also about Project Sakura the maintainer (me) dropped it because the Gapps survival script wasn't working while dirty flashing , users would have to wipe system partition completely and then re-flash the Rom and Gapps package or the device would bootloop. To make sure nobody loses their data I chose to drop official support the last OTA wasn't pushed either. OTA updates might have worked but then i wouldn't be able to test the Rom first myself for errors (by dirty flashing).
Thank you.
Edit: I don't want you to include the link but just wanted to tell you why the development was dropped.
I've use ROMs in the past, but never with the Essential phone. In fact my phone has run so well, I've never even factory reset it a single time, let alone put a ROM on it. But with Essential gone, I need a way to keep my phone secure.
I'm wondering what the best way to keep stock android (nothing wrong with stock) but allow myself to get the latest android updates as they come out. In looking at the ROMs there still seems to be some issues with bugs, and since this phone is my daily driver, I'd like it to be as stable as possible.
So is there:
1) A way to get the PH-1 on stock, but still get the important security updates somehow?
2) A rom available (even if android 9) that works for PH-1 that would be super stable but also get all new security updates?
Thanks in advance for any help.
holodude said:
I've use ROMs in the past, but never with the Essential phone. In fact my phone has run so well, I've never even factory reset it a single time, let alone put a ROM on it. But with Essential gone, I need a way to keep my phone secure.
I'm wondering what the best way to keep stock android (nothing wrong with stock) but allow myself to get the latest android updates as they come out. In looking at the ROMs there still seems to be some issues with bugs, and since this phone is my daily driver, I'd like it to be as stable as possible.
So is there:
1) A way to get the PH-1 on stock, but still get the important security updates somehow?
2) A rom available (even if android 9) that works for PH-1 that would be super stable but also get all new security updates?
Thanks in advance for any help.
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Don't want to be rude, but here's the answer:
1. None
2. None
chanh2018 said:
Don't want to be rude, but here's the answer:
1. None
2. None
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I could have sworn I saw something that basically said you can download the latest stock version (that includes security updates) and flash it every time there is a new update. But I guess I could have misunderstood?
holodude said:
I could have sworn I saw something that basically said you can download the latest stock version (that includes security updates) and flash it every time there is a new update. But I guess I could have misunderstood?
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That was the case until Essential went out of business - you could do OTA updates, or download and flash yourself. The stock security updates were only provided by Essential, and the Feb 2020 update was the last one for this phone...
holodude said:
I could have sworn I saw something that basically said you can download the latest stock version (that includes security updates) and flash it every time there is a new update. But I guess I could have misunderstood?
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You are correct: Android GSI. Info >here<
aleph23 said:
Android GSI
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And how would that be "remaining on stock", as per the OP?
holodude said:
I could have sworn I saw something that basically said you can download the latest stock version (that includes security updates) and flash it every time there is a new update. But I guess I could have misunderstood?
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No way to stay on stock & get security updates (well you will get some direct from Google ie the Google Play System Update, the last one shown lower down this page
https://source.android.com/security/bulletin/2020-03-01
and can be found in your settings under security, but its only a fraction of patches)
That means your best option is probably the Android 11 GSI when it's out of Developer Preview in a July (?) and hope it's bug free, else Lineage etc .... not that you want custom roms, sorry.
IronRoo said:
No way to stay on stock & get security updates (well you will get some direct from Google ie the Google Play System Update, the last one shown lower down this page
https://source.android.com/security/bulletin/2020-03-01
and can be found in your settings under security, but its only a fraction of patches)
That means your best option is probably the Android 11 GSI when it's out of Developer Preview in a July (?) and hope it's bug free, else Lineage etc .... not that you want custom roms, sorry.
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Basically I'm looking for something safe and stable, whether it is ROM or otherwise. Right now I'm stable, but not safe. So you think my best bet is move to Lineage (to become safe) and then switch to the GSI when it is out of developer preview (and stable)?
From what I have read and asked here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/essential-phone/development/rom-evolution-x-4-1-69-t4073153
This ROM will give you what you are asking for as far as regular security updates are concerned. I have been waiting for Lineage to release an "OFFICIAL" version of Android 10 for our PH-1's but so far nothing. Also I would not mind going on Android 11 but then I do not think that will get monthly security updates either so I am thinking about trying this Evolution ROM out.... I have never worked with a phone with A/B slots so that is my only concern but after reading all the threads I am starting to understand how that works.
Hope this info helps you out.
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Right now I'm stable, but not safe.
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Security updates are overrated. ?
SirDigitalKnight said:
From what I have read and asked here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/essential-phone/development/rom-evolution-x-4-1-69-t4073153
This ROM will give you what you are asking for as far as regular security updates are concerned. I have been waiting for Lineage to release an "OFFICIAL" version of Android 10 for our PH-1's but so far nothing. Also I would not mind going on Android 11 but then I do not think that will get monthly security updates either so I am thinking about trying this Evolution ROM out.... I have never worked with a phone with A/B slots so that is my only concern but after reading all the threads I am starting to understand how that works.
Hope this info helps you out.
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You & your big mouth! ?
https://download.lineageos.org/mata
(actually its been out a while, by the looks of it, but no mention here)
I'm the same boat as you, had hoped to flash LineageOS 17 months ago then move to Android 11 in few months time, guess it's decision time now.
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holodude said:
Basically I'm looking for something safe and stable, whether it is ROM or otherwise. Right now I'm stable, but not safe. So you think my best bet is move to Lineage (to become safe) and then switch to the GSI when it is out of developer preview (and stable)?
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Guess for stability & functionality it would have to be LineageOS.
Looks like May version is ver 17.1 (Android 10), not sure how this compares to previous version re bugs/working functions, but that means previous ver is already a month out of date on security )
edit: see this post also
https://forum.xda-developers.com/es...7-1-essential-ph-1-mata-t4066163/post82606687
Also DO NOT use the Essential USB cable & DO NOT relock boot loader!
SirDigitalKnight said:
From what I have read and asked here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/essential-phone/development/rom-evolution-x-4-1-69-t4073153
This ROM will give you what you are asking for as far as regular security updates are concerned. I have been waiting for Lineage to release an "OFFICIAL" version of Android 10 for our PH-1's but so far nothing. Also I would not mind going on Android 11 but then I do not think that will get monthly security updates either so I am thinking about trying this Evolution ROM out.... I have never worked with a phone with A/B slots so that is my only concern but after reading all the threads I am starting to understand how that works.
Hope this info helps you out.
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I'm on EvoX the only thing tht is not t working very well, is tht if u fast forward or rewind on Netflix ur phone reboots, hopefully fixed next update, but I'm happy with this ROM, the touch lag is almost non existence for some reason, glad they managed to fix tht. Also L1 certification is still there. The 360 camera workes better in this Rom for some reason. The best part is the customization though, so much
IronRoo said:
You & your big mouth!
https://download.lineageos.org/mata
(actually its been out a while, by the looks of it, but no mention here)
I'm the same boat as you, had hoped to flash LineageOS 17 months ago then move to Android 11 in few months time, guess it's decision time now.
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Guess for stability & functionality it would have to be LineageOS.
Looks like May version is ver 17.1 (Android 10), not sure how this compares to previous version re bugs/working functions, but that means previous ver is already a month out of date on security )
edit: see this post also
https://forum.xda-developers.com/es...7-1-essential-ph-1-mata-t4066163/post82606687
Also DO NOT use the Essential USB cable & DO NOT relock boot loader!
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Very strange that no one has started a new thread in the Custom ROM section about this... (This being an official release version of Lineageos 17.1) you would think it would be bigger news? There is still only an Unofficial thread... strange..
Anyway IronRoo let me know what you decide to do and how it goes... I am still on the fence as my PH-1 is currently working perfect on stock 10 but it is of course on the Feb 29th security patch... plus I haven't done a custom ROM install since my LG G5 but I hear it is like riding a bike... lol :silly::fingers-crossed:
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Very strange that no one has started a new thread in the Custom ROM section about this... (This being an official release version of Lineageos 17.1) you would think it would be bigger news? There is still only an Unofficial thread... strange..
Anyway IronRoo let me know what you decide to do and how it goes... I am still on the fence as my PH-1 is currently working perfect on stock 10 but it is of course on the Feb 29th security patch... plus I haven't done a custom ROM install since my LG G5 but I hear it is like riding a bike... lol :silly::fingers-crossed:
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For LOS, I think we should wait until their server is back, and few more releases come out.
LineageOS 17.1 for Essential is so new, only couple releases, and still in updating state.
chanh2018 said:
For LOS, I think we should wait until their server is back, and few more releases come out.
LineageOS 17.1 for Essential is so new, only couple releases, and still in updating state.
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Yes, many will agree, though I'm OK with giving it a go but I need to buy a new high quality USB cable as kid damaged my Samsung one and have only a cheap 6" one which I'm not sure I trust to flash without bricking phone.
SirDigitalKnight said:
Very strange that no one has started a new thread in the Custom ROM section about this... (This being an official release version of Lineageos 17.1) you would think it would be bigger news? There is still only an Unofficial thread... strange..
Anyway IronRoo let me know what you decide to do and how it goes... I am still on the fence as my PH-1 is currently working perfect on stock 10 but it is of course on the Feb 29th security patch... plus I haven't done a custom ROM install since my LG G5 but I hear it is like riding a bike... lol :silly::fingers-crossed:
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Just did a quick websearch and a few have tried flashing it reddit and here on the 16 thread, and it's suggested wait for next release (first recovery had issue, but now fixed, but next release of ROM should have a few fixes & Lineage build servers are down so not sure when new release will drop)