Can an unrooted Moto G7 be fully backed up without syncing with Google?
For privacy reasons I use Netguard firewall and prefer to not sync with google. Is there a way to create a nandroid backup even though the phone is bootloader unlocked but not rooted?
I tried adb backup and it does not backup app data and settings. Will anything else do it without syncing with Google?
That's what I miss with an unrooted phone: full backups and Titanium Backup.
I know this is old, but I think this is a valid concern beyond just the G7.
The answer is a "JBOD configuration". The term JBOD means "just a bunch of drives" when they're set up on a raid controller without being set up in a dedicated striping or mirroring configuration. The idea is if the OS gets corrupted, you can wipe its drive and reinstall without losing data. You can also move the data to any device simply by transferring the physical drives to it if they fit. If not, you use the host system to mount the drive you're transferring to, hit copy and paste, and wait a while.
Anyway, the OS goes on the fastest drive by itself. The drive doesn't have to be very big. All of the data goes on a different drive or drives. In a PC, you could put the OS on a 64GB SSD and have the data on standard 2TB hard disks. Any of this can be striped to attempt to increase speed (not really necessary) or mirrored to preserve important files (saved my tail last month). Archives are as simple as swapping the data drives with fresh ones.
On a phone your OS goes on the internal storage and all data on an SD card. Archives are made with an external USB hard drive using USB OTG.
Again I realize this is old, but IMHO, JBOD is *the* way to go.
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hello, I accidentally deleted the /sdcard folder and now it appears that i've lost all my data. So, i've deleted the folder by mistake from windows explorer and the tablet "auto created" a new one and none of my data shows up. I've tried about a dozen recovery programs but none will recognize my tablet. How can I make it show in Windows 7 like a Removable Device and not like a Portable Media Player. I kown it's more of a windows question but maybe someone else here made the stupid mistake i did and kowns how to slove my problem or please send me to a forum were I can get some help.
ps: I kown not to write anything on the tablet's storage until I solve this.
ps2: i don't actually have a sd card, all my data is on the internal memory.
Thank you!
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Had some free time lately and did some research and I found out that the reason I can’t access the internal storage through software like recuva or other data recovery sw, it is because Honeycomb uses MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) instead of UMS (USB Mass Storage), like android did until honeycomb and data recovery software doesn’t work on MTP, or at least none of the ones I’ve tried, and I’ve tried a few. So, I decided to change the thread question to: Can the Acer a500 support any other Android OS released except honeycomb or ICS (I read it uses MTP also)? and: Can the internal storage be accessed by a recovery software on Linux or any kind of OS? plus: Did anyone manage to recover data from internal storage through any method?
Ps: I don’t need a full working rom, just the touch screen or a mouse so I can mount the internal storage.
Ps2: I would have tried it myself, but I don’t have the knowledge(all I could think about was to download the rom from other tablets that run on 2.3) or the time to joggle with roms on my acer so if any of you developers out there could help me I would be in great debt to you.
Have you tried these apps? (seems you need root though)
I don't know if they will work, but just trying to help you out (I too have deleted my internal memory, but it always happened while ROM flashing... forgot to back up my files first).
https://market.android.com/details?id=fahrbot.apps.undelete
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.hexamob.hexamobrecoverypro
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.hexamob.hexamobrecoverylite
(^ the free and possibly not as good version of the one above it)
Also, on the W7 computer, have you tried Recuva?
Again, not sure if it will work, but I have used it for memory cards, flash drives, etc and it worked really well.
I think the biggest challenge though would be the way that the computer reads the tablet. It doesn't appear like a normal external USB device.
So, I think that an app will be your best bet. I think too that Android keeps apps*, OS*, and user data (your pics, movies, documents, etc) on separate partitions, so installing an app shouldn't overwrite any of your old stuff. I am only 90% sure of that though. :/
*It may actually be apps + OS
Were you rooted??? Did you make a nandroid backup??? If you have a nandroid back up you can restore just the data partition from recovery and you will be current as of your last backup. Another major reason to root your device.
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hello, i accidentally deleted the /sdcard folder and now it appears that i've lost all my data. So, i've deleted the folder by mistake from windows explorer and the tablet "auto created" a new one and none of my data shows up. I've tried about a dozen recovery programs but none will recognize my tablet. How can I make it show in Windows 7 like a Removable Device and not like a Portable Media Player. I kown it's more of a windows question but maybe someone else here made the stupid mistake i did and kowns how to slove my problem or please send me to a forum were I can get some help.
ps: I kown not to write anything on the tablet's storage until I solve this.
ps2: i don't actually have a sd card, all my data is on the internal memory.
Thank you!
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This is untested, but it you install
https://market.android.com/details?...51bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5mdW5reWZyZXNoLnNhbWJhIl0.
on your tablet then try to access your files using your recovery program on your pc. If you have questions about samba server look here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1317847&highlight=samba
same issue
just connected to PC in usb debug trying to copy to pc. copy did not go thru but sdcard went empty !!!
i did not do any mistake.
samba did not help show old files/folders.
need to find a way to undelete
nuzbabu said:
just connected to PC in usb debug trying to copy to pc. copy did not go thru but sdcard went empty !!!
i did not do any mistake.
samba did not help show old files/folders.
need to find a way to undelete
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My thoughts were that Samba acts as a server and would be used with wifi to show as local network share on your pc. Then to use a program to recovery your files. I think that idea is not possible after further checks. Seems none of my recovery apps will recover from network drive. Some will save to Network drive though, but that doesnt help you.
One of the apps from the market spexwood suggested may be your only hope.
I would suggest getting an sdcard and save your photos and videos on it.. much easier to recover if erased.
Had some free time lately and did some research and I found out that the reason I can’t access the internal storage through software like recuva or other data recovery sw, it is because Honeycomb uses MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) instead of UMS (USB Mass Storage), like android did until honeycomb and data recovery software doesn’t work on MTP, or at least none of the ones I’ve tried, and I’ve tried a few. So, I decided to change the thread question to: Can the Acer a500 support any other Android OS released except honeycomb or ICS (I read it uses MTP also)? and: Can the internal storage be accessed by a recovery software on Linux or any kind of OS? plus: Did anyone manage to recover data from internal storage through any method?
Ps: I don’t need a full working rom, just the touch screen or a mouse so I can mount the internal storage.
Ps2: I would have tried it myself, but I don’t have the knowledge(all I could think about was to download the rom from other tablets that run on 2.3) or the time to joggle with roms on my acer so if any of you developers out there could help me I would be in great debt to you.
I've tried everything I could think of:
Drop Box fails: file size limitations
Direct copy by attaching to a PC fails: IF you want to backup directories such as clockworkmod or something with lots of files, CRC's often do not match for copies
SFTP works: when permissions allow and its slow
Google Drive fails: speed and space available
SMB fails: As I have network firewall issues that block this.
SGS3 Easy UMS fails: Only external SD card
Directly mount SD card fails: Only works for external SD card.
ADB push/pull fails: only moves 1 directory, not valid for an entire set of directories, continually fails on permission issues.
I had a Atrix, which was great worked every time, plug it in mount the SD card's and go, now with a Galaxy SIII I've take I giant step backwards as far as moving data goes as there is no good fluid and stable way to backup the phone or just move data without pulling my hair out and rolling the dice. I'm sure there is some other method, but so far I've yet to find it, so hence any suggestions?
Also I'm not a fan of the new Clockworkmod plan, as it makes backing up the backups to external devices very time consuming and error prone (external backup to an SFTP server has taken 14 hours and is still running), the old single file method from 5.X, took more space but was simple to backup (and fast same backup would have been done in 20 minutes). Can you use the old method in 6.X, if so how?
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I don't understand what you are trying to do. Are you just trying to transfer a large file to the phone' s internal memory? If so any of those methods you work without any problem
not sure what cwm vers your using but the cf root version allows for backups to be created on internal or external storage I also have no porblems copying the folder from the extsdcard to pc using mtp connection.
You can flash a separate recovery image with mobile Odin easily, as they are separate from kernel
solved it myself
had same problem also , could not use my s3 in usb mass storage mode with the original usb cable
but it do work when i use the usb cable from my old nokia phone ! you should try with some other cable
martNL said:
had same problem also , could not use my s3 in usb mass storage mode with the original usb cable
but it do work when i use the usb cable from my old nokia phone ! you should try with some other cable
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Interesting thought, I'll give it a try. Maybe it will help with the desktop transfer, but the real problem is getting 1-to-1 transfers without any conversion from the internal SD, I can copy the directory to the ext SD and then remove it and copy, but as stated that's not practical. Note I often push 3 or 4GB a day and removing the case for each one, would never work. Worse the desktop method does not work under linux (and yes I've tried to get it to work, but its unstable and very slow).
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egandt said:
Direct copy by attaching to a PC fails: IF you want to backup directories such as clockworkmod or something with lots of files, CRC's often do not match for copies
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Never had that problem with multiple clockwork transfers .
Copy and paste all my files no problem .
Also I'm not a fan of the new Clockworkmod plan, as it makes backing up the backups to external devices very time consuming and error prone (external backup to an SFTP server has taken 14 hours and is still running), the old single file method from 5.X, took more space but was simple to backup (and fast same backup would have been done in 20 minutes). Can you use the old method in 6.X, if so how?
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New method for SGS3 TWRP in Original development .
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Consider using usb otg and move data to pen drive.
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I copy to/from my sd card (internal and external) e.g. clockworkmod folders to pc or network storage over Wi-Fi with ES File Explorer
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Hello,
I'm new to much of this. I want to flash Android M to my Nexus 4 but I am heeding many people's warnings to backup my device. However, nothing I've tried has allowed me to do so. In my searches, I discovered this thread that enables OTG flash drive support for Nexus 4 phones:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66226991&postcount=48
But when I installed it over the stock TWRP 3.0.2.0, it showed an external slot with 0MB and would not allow me to select it. I've tried various flash drives, all formatted to FAT 32, I've tried a powered external USB 3.0 drive enclosure (NTFS formatted) - nothing works. The cable I'm using is not a "Y" cable, which is why I tried using my external backup drive, which is powered but NTFS. Is that the issue?
Finally I decided, to heck with it, I'll just create a nandroid backup to my phone's storage and then drag it onto my PC, but it only has 4.5GB free space left. I could go and uninstall most of my apps, but what is the point of backing it up then? I need almost 9GB of space on a device that has just 16GB.
This crap is so frustrating. I expect installing Marshmallow would be hard, but I did not expect a backup, which should be a simple operation, to be so challenging Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Did you try twrp 2.8.7?
audit13 said:
Did you try twrp 2.8.7?
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Thanks for the suggestion - I just tried it. Using all the methods listed in my post (using straight non-Y cable) I get not OTG option when specifying storage location - just internal storage. I've ordered a OTG Y cable and will post back here if that helps.
Also, I purchased the "Live" option, thinking that would back my phone up to the cloud. After reading a bit, it appears that premium feature allows you to create a nandroid backup without booting to recovery mode. It's just about useless though because it requires selinux to be set to permissive - AFAICT, selinux is always set to something else and the process to get it set to permissive is pretty advanced and looks like a PITA. I guess the live option would be really cool for you advanced users...
dalewb said:
Hello,
I'm new to much of this. I want to flash Android M to my Nexus 4 but I am heeding many people's warnings to backup my device. However, nothing I've tried has allowed me to do so. In my searches, I discovered this thread that enables OTG flash drive support for Nexus 4 phones:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66226991&postcount=48
But when I installed it over the stock TWRP 3.0.2.0, it showed an external slot with 0MB and would not allow me to select it. I've tried various flash drives, all formatted to FAT 32, I've tried a powered external USB 3.0 drive enclosure (NTFS formatted) - nothing works. The cable I'm using is not a "Y" cable, which is why I tried using my external backup drive, which is powered but NTFS. Is that the issue?
Finally I decided, to heck with it, I'll just create a nandroid backup to my phone's storage and then drag it onto my PC, but it only has 4.5GB free space left. I could go and uninstall most of my apps, but what is the point of backing it up then? I need almost 9GB of space on a device that has just 16GB.
This crap is so frustrating. I expect installing Marshmallow would be hard, but I did not expect a backup, which should be a simple operation, to be so challenging Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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- Have you tried turning on compression and ignoring the disk space in TWRP?
- If that still fails, you can backup one partition at a time, then transfer it by adb before backing up the next partition, etc.
Thanks and solution
Thanks to those of you who suggested different things. The solution ended up being a combination of things - needed the Y cable (that allows power and USB flash drive to be plugged into phone at same time) and the TWRP build for Nexus 4 with OTG support. Once those two things were in place, I was able to select my flash storage device. The backup was right at 9GB - pretty big!
I noticed on a few different occasions that my KODI (now using SPMC but they both behave the same way) app data growing to more the 6 Gigs thereby making my 16Gig shield run out of memory. I have been uninstalling and reinstalling to work around the issue.
I'd like to resolve it so I tried following the instructions in the thread below. :
http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=268766&pid=2319979#pid2319979
I'm not using adoptable storage and am trying to get this working with either an SD card (shown as /storage/4B2F-56AC) or a USB 3.0 thumbdrive (shown as /storage/98FB-2ABF).
I created a file in /sdcard called "xbmc_env.properties" (I also tried "spmc_env.properties" even though SPMC is supposed to recognize both).
I added the follow text in the file : xbmc.data=/storage/98FB-2ABF/
Unfortunately with this file sitting in the /sdcard location, SPMC refuses to run.. It just sits at a black screen. I force closed the app, restarted the Shield and it still does the same thing... Sits at a black screen.
When I remove the file SPMC returns to working normally so I know it's trying to process the file.. I'm just not sure why it's not working.. It's simply one line of code in a file so it's not rocket science but I simply cannot get SPMC to launch when the file is present.
Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong ? I'd still like to move the DATA to an external source so if it grows unexpectedly in the future it doesn't interfere with other SHIELD TV apps and functions.
On a side note...
I DID notice that the culprit files that were taking up all the space in the SPMC / KODI install were .cache files... I'm thinking I should just be able to delete them ( I actually did but SPMC was still acting up) to reclaim that valuable space ?
Hmmmm.. 57 views and no replies..
I guess this hasn't been attempted very often on the Shield.
If someone could successfully take a crack at this and post a how to it would be greatly appreciated.
I tried again yesterday on both an SD card and a USB drive w/o any luck. One thing I did notice though was that when I tried to actually write to both devices through the Shield using X-Plore, it failed. With the SD card it prompted me how to enable write access and I eventually was able to copy data over to it but with the USB drive it simply failed and I couldn't get copy anything to it while it was connected to the Shield.
I should lastly mention that I am NOT rooted and am fully stock.
Is this even possible using external storage ? I don't want to setup these device as "Internal Storage" as it's my understanding that when doing so you are replacing the current internal storage (my 16Gigs) with the SD (or USB thumb drive). I tried doing so with my SD card a while back but noticed periodic slow downs on the Shield so I undid the change.
It seems as though the "Adoptable storage" option has improved with the latest update.
I converted my USB drive to Internal Storage and let the Shield do it's thing.
When all was done I was able to goto the SPMC app settings and choose to have the app on the USB drive vs. the internal 16Gb storage. I made the switch and SPMC appears to be working ok. Time will tell if I see any noticeable performance impacts.
I already use a centralized SQL DB for all media info so I'm hoping performance will be the same.
Mods... You can probably close this thread.
the.teejster said:
It seems as though the "Adoptable storage" option has improved with the latest update.
I converted my USB drive to Internal Storage and let the Shield do it's thing.
When all was done I was able to goto the SPMC app settings and choose to have the app on the USB drive vs. the internal 16Gb storage. I made the switch and SPMC appears to be working ok. Time will tell if I see any noticeable performance impacts.
I already use a centralized SQL DB for all media info so I'm hoping performance will be the same.
Mods... You can probably close this thread.
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You mention a change in performance when using your sd card. You do understand that you must use a class 10 or preferably higher class to make it the same or faster than current internal storage?
I was trying to do the same thing as you but in my case I chose to move internal storage to a 64gb usb 3.0 usb drive.
Then I noticed kodi's performance was absolutely ****ty. The reason for this is because it tries to read data from the usb drive, and somehow kodi doesn't handle that well. My solution was to let the app be installed to adoptive storage but let the .kodi data be read from the actual internal storage.
This eliminated all performance issues!
Don't you need a UHS Class 3 device?
I have since tried converting and testing out both my USB thumb drive and my Class 10 SD card by converting them one at a time to internal storage and moving SPMC over.
I honestly thought my 6 month old USB 3.0 thumb drive would have been faster than a 3 year old SD card but I was wrong.
I have noticed a small performance decrease but nothing near as bad as you mention that currently warrants me to revert to internal storage. Time will tell as I use it more.
shaggydiamond said:
You mention a change in performance when using your sd card. You do understand that you must use a class 10 or preferably higher class to make it the same or faster than current internal storage?
I was trying to do the same thing as you but in my case I chose to move internal storage to a 64gb usb 3.0 usb drive.
Then I noticed kodi's performance was absolutely ****ty. The reason for this is because it tries to read data from the usb drive, and somehow kodi doesn't handle that well. My solution was to let the app be installed to adoptive storage but let the .kodi data be read from the actual internal storage.
This eliminated all performance issues!
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I decided to revert back to using internal storage only. I was getting intermittent pausing of videos that I was watching off my NAS with SPMC installed on both a Class 10 Samsung SD card and a USB 3.0 thumb drive.
the.teejster said:
I decided to revert back to using internal storage only. I was getting intermittent pausing of videos that I was watching off my NAS with SPMC installed on both a Class 10 Samsung SD card and a USB 3.0 thumb drive.
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I am using adoptive storage but moved kodi data around for better performance.
I followed this official guide on how to move Kodi data folder somewhere else:
HOW-TO:Change_data_location_for_Android (wiki)
I used ES file Explorer for this.
Here are the steps:
turn on the option to show hidden files (it is the first option). On the root of your SD Card (path is /sdcard) create a file called: xbmc_env.properties.
Open the created file and add only this line:
xbmc.data=/storage/emulated/0/InternalStorage/
You can point to another folder inside InternalStorage folder but you need to create it first. It will not be created automatically by Kodi.
Start Kodi to verify that it works. Kodi will start with the clean profile. Quit Kodi.
Using ES file explorer to erase the new contents of the /sdcard/InternalStorage folder. This is where you want your kodi data.
Using ES file Explorer and go to /sdcard/Android/data/org.xbmc.kodi/files
Move everything to a /sdcard/InternalStorage. Or you can just copy it and keep the old files until you verify that everything works.
Now start Kodi. You should see your old stuff loading but now everything is fast again.
Thanks for the info.. I actually used this as the basis for what I was trying to accomplish except I wanted to have Kodi DATA on the external storage to prevent unforeseen growth end up chewing up all the valuable internal storage.
The problem is that you cannot write to external storage from the shield UNLESS it's setup as adoptable storage, hence the approach I tried which worked, but resulted in unacceptable performance in the form of periodic video freezing.
shaggydiamond said:
I am using adoptive storage but moved kodi data around for better performance.
I followed this official guide on how to move Kodi data folder somewhere else:
HOW-TO:Change_data_location_for_Android (wiki)
I used ES file Explorer for this.
Here are the steps:
turn on the option to show hidden files (it is the first option). On the root of your SD Card (path is /sdcard) create a file called: xbmc_env.properties.
Open the created file and add only this line:
xbmc.data=/storage/emulated/0/InternalStorage/
You can point to another folder inside InternalStorage folder but you need to create it first. It will not be created automatically by Kodi.
Start Kodi to verify that it works. Kodi will start with the clean profile. Quit Kodi.
Using ES file explorer to erase the new contents of the /sdcard/InternalStorage folder. This is where you want your kodi data.
Using ES file Explorer and go to /sdcard/Android/data/org.xbmc.kodi/files
Move everything to a /sdcard/InternalStorage. Or you can just copy it and keep the old files until you verify that everything works.
Now start Kodi. You should see your old stuff loading but now everything is fast again.
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Hi All,
I have an S5 SM-G900P w/6.0.1
I keep my photos on my SDCard. Recently after taking some lengthy vids, I ran out of space and it shifted over to local storage.
I backed up both external and internal DCIM/camera folders to my local machine. Then copied that backup to another backup drive.
I normally parse through the pics to make sure everything is ok before I delete the stuff from my phone, but this last batch was too big to do that, so I only skimmed through.
After thinking the copies were successful, I went ahead and deleted the pictures from my phone. I deleted via Windows 10 while looking at the folders via usb connection.
Shortly after I discovered that any of the files that were on internal storage (and some on the SD Card) were corrupted during the transfer. Their file size was inflated to approx 5.2GB each (normally around 1500KB).
I was able to quickly recover any of the corrupted files on the SD card using Piriform's Recuva. (maker of cCleaner). I mounted the SDcard directly to the PC and didn't use the phone.
However, Recuva won't browse the phones internal storage when connected via USB. Their FAQ says it can only browse and recover from physically attached drives. (no mapped drives, which I tried by using a webserv)
I tried several recovery apps on my phone itself. Disk Digger, Dumpster, etc. They didn't find anything.
AFAIK, I can't mount the internal storage on the phone as a physical drive like we used to be able to do on older phones.
At this point, I'm not sure what else I can do. It's been a day now, so the phone might have already written over the space anyway. But I'm curious if there isn't any other ways to recover those files. I hate losing pics of my kids.
jasonallen19 said:
Hi All,
I have an S5 SM-G900P w/6.0.1
I keep my photos on my SDCard. Recently after taking some lengthy vids, I ran out of space and it shifted over to local storage.
I was able to quickly recover any of the corrupted files on the SD card using Piriform's Recuva. (maker of cCleaner). I mounted the SDcard directly to the PC and didn't use the phone.
AFAIK, I can't mount the internal storage on the phone as a physical drive like we used to be able to do on older phones.
At this point, I'm not sure what else I can do. It's been a day now, so the phone might have already written over the space anyway. But I'm curious if there isn't any other ways to recover those files. I hate losing pics of my kids.
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Can I assume, seeing that you used "Recuva" that you are running Microsoft on your PC???
If that be the case.... will take a little time , and a good size USB Stick. and hopefully, you have a port left for USB3.0 for the S5..
That said, you could set up Ubuntu on a USB Stick (making sure when doing so, you use the whole card, so changes can be made)
Then making sure your PC can boot from a USB Stick, Power that down, Restart PC, Booting into Ubuntu. then plug in phone. Mount the it, and you should be able to find everything you are missing. (that said, I do hope you were using the Stock Camera App, and mot something else.... if so, the files, might be bad from the start, I hope this is not the case).
hope this may help you