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I'm currenty in the USA, and travel internationally. I'd like to get the S4, but can't seem to find a source for an OEM, unlocked, 64GB Octo-core version. Does anyone know where I can purchase one? Some sites have the Octo-core but only 16GB, or they have the 64GB but only the quad-core. I'm not one to upgrade my phone every 2 weeks (sarcasm), so this will be an investment for me. No carrier-branded versions, or locked ROMs (I do flash my phones).
Thanks!
http://negrielectronics.com/samsung-i9500-galaxy-s-iv-64-gb-unlocked-black-mist.html#.UYhQTrXvt1E
Why do you want the exynos one?
dli7319 said:
http://negrielectronics.com/samsung-i9500-galaxy-s-iv-64-gb-unlocked-black-mist.html#.UYhQTrXvt1E
Why do you want the exynos one?
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Thanks for the link!
I want the latest and greatest because it'll make me feel better about myself and will hopefully make me be accepted by others.
In all seriousness, I've been reading reviews and comparisons, and although the performances are very close, I'm concerned about ... I can't think of the term, but "un-upgradable" after 6-12 months. I'm currently using a Samsung Droid Charge from 2011, and while it was a nice and capable phone then, it still functions as a nice phone now. Only problem is I've reached a ceiling as far as upgradability. I am stuck with Android v2.3.6 (Eclipse ROM), while "current phones" are running Android 4.2+. I'm a very heavy user of the phone and many of its features, and find that I'm often coming across performance issues.
That's just a brief reason why I'd prefer to get the Exynos version. I'm open to suggestions, but I certainly don't want a USA carrier-branded/bloated/locked version. Those days for me are over (the proverbial ball and chain are gone).
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whiteblazer01 said:
Thanks for the link!
I want the latest and greatest because it'll make me feel better about myself and will hopefully make me be accepted by others.
In all seriousness, I've been reading reviews and comparisons, and although the performances are very close, I'm concerned about ... I can't think of the term, but "un-upgradable" after 6-12 months. I'm currently using a Samsung Droid Charge from 2011, and while it was a nice and capable phone then, it still functions as a nice phone now. Only problem is I've reached a ceiling as far as upgradability. I am stuck with Android v2.3.6 (Eclipse ROM), while "current phones" are running Android 4.2+. I'm a very heavy user of the phone and many of its features, and find that I'm often coming across performance issues.
That's just a brief reason why I'd prefer to get the Exynos version. I'm open to suggestions, but I certainly don't want a USA carrier-branded/bloated/locked version. Those days for me are over (the proverbial ball and chain are gone).
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Team hacksung,
the team behind all the s3/s2/note2 ports of cm have pledged not to work with exynos hardware, and Cyanogen himself who used to work at Samsung is only supporting qualcomm galaxy s4s, the performance difference is honestly negligible, and without fm radio, there is no benefit (if any a con) to get the international s4, Cyanogen currently works on a tmobile galaxy s4 btw
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39255132&postcount=27
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Keep in mind that gsm phones won't work on Verizon, highly suggest you switch to tmobile's $30 plan
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Team hacksung,
the team behind all the s3/s2/note2 ports of cm have pledged not to work with exynos hardware, and Cyanogen himself who used to work at Samsung is only supporting qualcomm galaxy s4s, the performance difference is honestly negligible, and without fm radio, there is no benefit (if any a con) to get the international s4, Cyanogen currently works on a tmobile galaxy s4 btw
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39255132&postcount=27
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I was actually considering that as a reason not to get the Exynos, and since the performance is negligible, I just might get the quad-core, for the sake of customizability and upgradability. Seems to be a waste of potential technological opportunity.
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Keep in mind that gsm phones won't work on Verizon, highly suggest you switch to tmobile's $30 plan
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Oh, right. I forgot, the Droid Charge is a Verizon-branded phone. I haven't had Verizon since shortly after I got the phone, but I'm still using the phone... offline (complicated story).
I'll be using a different carrier while in the USA (without a contract), as I'll be traveling to other countries, so Verizon wouldn't be an option anyway.
At $890, you could literally buy a 16GB Nexus 4 And a 32 GB nexus 10, or a 64gb htc one and many accessories (wifi hdd), or 2 nexus phones, just keep in mind that the s4 is only the best by spec, the htc one has better speakers and screen and build quality plus it is already out and $200 cheaper, feel free to wait for the s4 if you are set on it but it is priced to much like a iPhone IMHO
And you have a proper warranty when buying a htc one since it isn't a grey import
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I'll tell you why...
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At $890, you could literally buy a 16GB Nexus 4 And a 32 GB nexus 10, or a 64gb htc one and many accessories (wifi hdd), or 2 nexus phones, just keep in mind that the s4 is only the best by spec, the htc one has better speakers and screen and build quality plus it is already out and $200 cheaper, feel free to wait for the s4 if you are set on it but it is priced to much like a iPhone IMHO
And you have a proper warranty when buying a htc one since it isn't a grey import
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Because the Samsung has a replaceable battery along with the memory card slot. I use my phone for my business and I CANNOT be strapped to a charger all day. Being able to swap batteries in the middle of the day, no matter where I am, makes Samsung the only viable game in town. You can keep your shiny cool aluminum sealed cell phone. I'll take the good 'ole removable plastic backed one every time.
OK, btw I have a s3 and I understand the convenience of removable batteries and storage
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You have to keep in mind that we're in a non-US phone forum. It also happens to dwarf all US S3 forums in terms of development. What I mean by that is although CM may be working on the US version, I'm pretty sure there's going to be a huge contingent of devs for the Exynos version. Just take a look at the AT&T or T-Mobile forums for the Note2 or S3. They don't have any dev support. AndreiLux, my fav dev, has already committed to the Exynos.
Personally, I don't care for CM. It's my personal opinion that CM is best suited for lower-end phones that need the purity of Android without the bloatware because of limited tech specs. If you have a beastly S4 or HTC One, why bother.
My advice would be to get a 16GB Exynos and wait until the development starts happening. Also get ready for 128GB Micro SD Cards. I hear they're rolling out first half of this year.
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jinosong said:
You have to keep in mind that we're in a non-US phone forum. It also happens to dwarf all US S3 forums in terms of development. What I mean by that is although CM may be working on the US version, I'm pretty sure there's going to be a huge contingent of devs for the Exynos version. Just take a look at the AT&T or T-Mobile forums for the Note2 or S3. They don't have any dev support. AndreiLux, my fav dev, has already committed to the Exynos.
Personally, I don't care for CM. It's my personal opinion that CM is best suited for lower-end phones that need the purity of Android without the bloatware because of limited tech specs. If you have a beastly S4 or HTC One, why bother.
My advice would be to get a 16GB Exynos and wait until the development starts happening. Also get ready for 128GB Micro SD Cards. I hear they're rolling out first half of this year.
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I respect your opinion but as I see it, pure Android is faster, slimmer and overall technically better, meanwhile Touchwiz is more consumer oriented and has several quirks and bugs.
Since we are in a developer-oriented forum, several folks will want that. It never hurts to have wider support/more options.
And AOSP in a beastly phone runs even better.
I wouldn't bet on the Exynos version, not many developers will join the fray after all the BS Samsung has pulled recently, and their dismal support of their own SoC
Since you namedropped him: Andrei has mentioned some valuable things about the Octa that might help steer the decision one way or another (he has the Octa variant):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2258519
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41125997&postcount=4
Qualcomm has great resources for developers and is widely accepted. Most likely the next Nexus devices will be based on the latest Snapdragons.
Edit: @ OP: You might wanna read the S4 forums for a while, there are some issues with the screen for some folks. Just to make sure you have it in mind
OT: Glebun, go mini-mod somewhere else, please. Your posts serve no purpose in this context for more than adding 1 extra post to your count.
That's what the report button is for, if you reply, you give a thread more relevance - which is counter intuitive to the whole purpose of your post.
I didn't even know you could get the S4 in 64GB so soon. Some websites were saying that only the 16GB version is available right now. Or maybe they were talking about the US-variant.
I read somewhere that the octa-core version will get a software update which will increase performance by 10%. Here's the link; http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-to-boost-performance-of-galaxy-s4-202912/
On a blazing fast phone (which is blowing all the benchmarks out of the water), a 10% increase in performance is significant!!!
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I didn't even know you could get the S4 in 64GB so soon. Some websites were saying that only the 16GB version is available right now. Or maybe they were talking about the US-variant.
I read somewhere that the octa-core version will get a software update which will increase performance by 10%. Here's the link; http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-to-boost-performance-of-galaxy-s4-202912/
On a blazing fast phone (which is blowing all the benchmarks out of the water), a 10% increase in performance is significant!!!
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Technically you can already get that performance by using the A15s only.
My guess is that the performance improvement statement is rather a bad understanding of the graph, the point that they were trying to make is that HMP should bring the performance advantages of running solely on A15s at the reduced power consumption of CPU migration.
HMP should get the same full performance at 50% less power consumption, according to those figures and that specific scenario.
The author of the article was overreaching on his statement, it does not mean is a general improvement or a performance unlock.
I guess whatever the case, they'll certainly be bringing an increase in power. That's good news for all (those on the Snapdragon processor shouldn't complain since that is already quite fast)!
whiteblazer01 said:
I'm currenty in the USA, and travel internationally. I'd like to get the S4, but can't seem to find a source for an OEM, unlocked, 64GB Octo-core version. Does anyone know where I can purchase one? Some sites have the Octo-core but only 16GB, or they have the 64GB but only the quad-core. I'm not one to upgrade my phone every 2 weeks (sarcasm), so this will be an investment for me. No carrier-branded versions, or locked ROMs (I do flash my phones).
Thanks!
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But the octa core will not have lte. The only one that will the Korean version but the other octa cores won't have lte if you want lte then you need to get the snapdragon version.
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But the octa core will not have lte. The only one that will the Korean version but the other octa cores won't have lte if you want lte then you need to get the snapdragon version.
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Is having LTE only a concern in the USA? How about Europe (outside GB) and Central America? If one travels and lives outside the USA, what would be recommended (for a 64GB Galaxy S4)? I realize this is an American based forum, but I also know there are a lot of people with insight into international phone variants, different frequency bands, and international carriers (which is not my area of expertise).
Just an update, I've contacted Negri Electronics and Expansys, (UnlockedMobiles and Handtec only seem to offer the 16GB version), as they seem to be the few websites that actually have the 64GB Octo-core unit on their website. Nobody seems to have this in stock, and they all say they're waiting on more information from Samsung regarding availability. So it seems a 64GB Octo-core GS4 is nowhere to be found.
Was looking for the international version because apparently the snapdragon chip is not as powerful.
Any Northerners on here that can give me some advice on where to get the Note 4 unlocked off contract, and preferably international ver.
700-800 is a lot so just researching as much as i can.
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Was looking for the international version because apparently the snapdragon chip is not as powerful.
Any Northerners on here that can give me some advice on where to get the Note 4 unlocked off contract, and preferably international ver.
700-800 is a lot so just researching as much as i can.
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No idea. I got my note 4 through Bell for $250 on
2year contract. Snapdragon is very powerful. Even on power saver it is very fast.
Look for deals if you can. I got mine at BestBuy for $75 with a new 2 year through Bell during Black Friday.
I was able to talk the Cell Shop manager into the best deal considering I would sign a brand new contract replacing my old 3-yr Promo one
tb5... said:
Was looking for the international version because apparently the snapdragon chip is not as powerful.
Any Northerners on here that can give me some advice on where to get the Note 4 unlocked off contract, and preferably international ver.
700-800 is a lot so just researching as much as i can.
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That is not true about benchmarks, it depends what your looking for. Snapdragon is for Graphics and Exynos for raw computation power.
In terms of battery they are both pretty bad, but I heard the Snapdragon also takes this by a slight margin.
Try Pacific Mall if you Live in Toronto, just watch out! Many companies (private) are pulling insurance fraud by selling you devices then claiming them stolen...you can wake up with your phone blacklisted.
IMO unless you do Ebay or Amazon (which will prob be expensive), I wouldn't think it's worth going out of your way for the Octo core. The difference aren't enough to justify the change.
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No idea. I got my note 4 through Bell for $250 on
2year contract. Snapdragon is very powerful. Even on power saver it is very fast.
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ktnxhenry said:
Look for deals if you can. I got mine at BestBuy for $75 with a new 2 year through Bell during Black Friday.
I was able to talk the Cell Shop manager into the best deal considering I would sign a brand new contract replacing my old 3-yr Promo one
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That is not true about benchmarks, it depends what your looking for. Snapdragon is for Graphics and Exynos for raw computation power.
In terms of battery they are both pretty bad, but I heard the Snapdragon also takes this by a slight margin.
Try Pacific Mall if you Live in Toronto, just watch out! Many companies (private) are pulling insurance fraud by selling you devices then claiming them stolen...you can wake up with your phone blacklisted.
IMO unless you do Ebay or Amazon (which will prob be expensive), I wouldn't think it's worth going out of your way for the Octo core. The difference aren't enough to justify the change.
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Thanks for the responses.
What are your thoughts on the 64 bit as another pro, for the exynos octo core chip?
i understand that 64 bit makes it possible to use 4+ gb Ram, the note has 3.
so are there any other benefits to 64 octo over 32 snapdragon?
as far as pacific mall i don't really like buying phones from them anymore.
I am checking kijijii as i type.:fingers-crossed:
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Thanks for the responses.
What are your thoughts on the 64 bit as another pro, for the exynos octo core chip?
i understand that 64 bit makes it possible to use 4+ gb Ram, the note has 3 and isn't upgradable.
so are there any other benefits to 64 octo over 32 snapdragon?
as far as pacific mall i don't really like buying phones from them anymore.
I am checking kijijii as i type.:fingers-crossed:
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Ram is fixed at 3 GB for all note 4s. Also most apps are programmed in 32 bit arch and there are still even PC applications that are simply programmed in 32 bit environment (actually Many many programs to be more precise...and even those that are 64 bit compatible but don't take any advantages of the new system).
Seeing as 64 bit will depend on both ram being above 3.25 GB and programmers actually programming apps that will take advantage of the new bit count, it is too early to proudly adopt the 64 bit arch expecting to future proof yourself.
I have a Nexus 9, which is a 64 bit CPU. By the time 64 bit makes it into it's baby steps even my nexus 9 will most likely be irrelevant in terms of other products on the market.
For now, 64 bit is a marketing gimmick and just a first crawl of technology going in the right direction. Don't get me wrong I'm not against it, and frankly encourage people to purchase into it, but don't expect to get the "performance" or "use" of 64 bit atm.
You are simply "funding" future projects
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Kijiji is even worse. At least pacific mall has a location (not that it makes much more of a difference) but your not carrying around 800$ cash to a random location. At least in Pacific mall there is security and is a place to shop.
i got my 910U from taiwan using ebay. $900 and well worth the extra ponies over the canadian models. using it on rogers.
I bought mine from Craigslist for $420.... Its amazing if you're patient the deals youll find. All you have to do is be able to barter, know what you're looking for and take precautions when buying used- Meet them at phones carrier, have it transferred over to you, meet them at their house and test it out or ask for their ID. Id definetly reccomend craigslist if you dont mind a used one
at $420 youre getting a fake for sure. no one is going to sell a real phone at hundreds off the cost price. a fake phone costs $160 with shipping at retail.
have you run refurbishment check on it using samsung phone info app from the app store ? have you asked the carriers if your phone is on contract/stolen or blacklisted ?
you can find it online and in Canada
Omega Cell in Edmonton carries these . i have purchased other phones, it is a good place to shop for unlocked and unique phone hardware
http://www.omegacell.com/products/samsung-galaxy-note-4-n910u-exynos-octocore
i am not affiliated with these guys at all, just a past and possibly future return customer.'
Just got notice Friday night, that I'm eligible for a device upgrade on my At&t plan.....Since then, all's I've thought about was a Galaxy S8! It also doesn't help that 3 people at work and my brother-in-law all recently picked up the S8 and I've help them get them set up... These are seriously some nice looking phones!
There's several reason's I'm thinking of switching....But I'm seriously considering it?!?!
Am I crazy?
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Just got notice Friday night, that I'm eligible for a device upgrade on my At&t plan.....Since then, all's I've thought about was a Galaxy S8! It also doesn't help that 3 people at work and my brother-in-law all recently picked up the S8 and I've help them get them set up... These are seriously some nice looking phones!
There's several reason's I'm thinking of switching....But I'm seriously considering it?!?!
Am I crazy?
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http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8161&idPhone2=8067
Dude it's barely any different. Unless you have a wad of cash burning a hole in your pocket, it's a stupid move.
I'll never understand people who pay an absurd amount per month on a phone plan when you could just outright buy a phone and it pays for itself in less than six months by paying for a reasonable plan. I pay $30 a month. I have 5gb of 4gLTE data.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8161&idPhone2=8067
Dude it's barely any different. Unless you have a wad of cash burning a hole in your pocket, it's a stupid move.
I'll never understand people who pay an absurd amount per month on a phone plan when you could just outright buy a phone and it pays for itself in less than six months by paying for a reasonable plan. I pay $30 a month. I have 5gb of 4gLTE data.
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I just looked at that link, and discovered that the s8 only has quick charge 2.0 and not 3.0. And the s8 has a worse battery so if you don't go with the larger one you'll have worse battery life.
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I just looked at that link, and discovered that the s8 only has quick charge 2.0 and not 3.0. And the s8 has a worse battery so if you don't go with the larger one you'll have worse battery life.
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What?! Surely that must be a typo? Why would it only have QC 2.0?
Benefits I can see
-Snapdragon 835 vs 820
-Newer Adreno for GPU
-Bluetooth 5.0 vs 4.2
-Slightly more pixels.
That's about it.
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What?! Surely that must be a typo? Why would it only have QC 2.0?
Benefits I can see
-Snapdragon 835 vs 820
-Newer Adreno for GPU
-Bluetooth 5.0 vs 4.2
-Slightly more pixels.
That's about it.
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Plus your losing speakers and a fully paid off phone.
Edit: And custom rom support (that isn't stock-based) so you're stuck with "samsung experience"
Edit 2: wait it's going to be at&t so no custom roms at all AND you pay double the money
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What?! Surely that must be a typo? Why would it only have QC 2.0?
Benefits I can see
-Snapdragon 835 vs 820
-Newer Adreno for GPU
-Bluetooth 5.0 vs 4.2
-Slightly more pixels.
That's about it.
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Here is what it says on the samsung website: (see attachment)
Also you get McAfee
TPMJB said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8161&idPhone2=8067
Dude it's barely any different. Unless you have a wad of cash burning a hole in your pocket, it's a stupid move.
I'll never understand people who pay an absurd amount per month on a phone plan when you could just outright buy a phone and it pays for itself in less than six months by paying for a reasonable plan. I pay $30 a month. I have 5gb of 4gLTE data.
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I pay $50 a month for unlimited 4G LTE data. I average anywhere between 25-30GB of data usage every month.
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I have to agree with TPMJB, I think it would be a bad move. There was a nice offer to get a S8 on Amazon, but the differences are against the S8. The A7 has such a greater sound, greater battery, already a great screen, its CPU and GPU are more than enough for any game (but I don't play), 4GB RAM is also more than enough, ...
Why spending more to get less or something that's not yet needed?
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Benefits I can see
-Snapdragon 835 vs 820
-Newer Adreno for GPU
-Bluetooth 5.0 vs 4.2
-Slightly more pixels.
That's about it.
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Plus your losing speakers and a fully paid off phone.
Edit: And custom rom support (that isn't stock-based) so you're stuck with "samsung experience"
Edit 2: wait it's going to be at&t so no custom roms at all AND you pay double the money
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ZTE AXON 8 will be released in 2-3 months and will address any Snapdragon gap, plus keep lower price and stereo speakers.
Plus with a paid off phone you can go pre-paid on major carriers. I pay $38.25 total monthly with no taxes/fees on AT&T (GoPhone, AT&T's in-house prepaid brand) for 6GB high speed data/unlimited calls/unlimited texts.
You can tell that's "pure" AT&T by the low ping speeds. MVNOs have higher ping speeds (higher lag).
But I bring my own phone, so I can get the pre-paid prices. I will never be "post paid" customer" where they rip you off.
I also make sure any phone I own can be rooted and have custom ROMs.
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The only thing the S8 has the ZTE Axon 7 lacks is the Qi wireless charging. Other than that, the 1-year old ZTE Axon 7 still beats the Samsung Galaxy 8 in every significant way (award winning DAC, front facing stereo speakers), etc.
If I were to get an S8, I would make sure it was the Exynos variant that could be rooted, surely NOT the AT&T branded model!
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ZTE AXON 8 will be released in 2-3 months and will address any Snapdragon gap, plus keep lower price and stereo speakers.
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but is there really a snapdragon gap? I mean, is our snappy already a has been? Serious question, not trying to start a flame war or anything
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but is there really a snapdragon gap? I mean, is our snappy already a has been? Serious question, not trying to start a flame war or anything
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I said "any" gap. I was just addressing the points listed. Where the Snapdragon 835 is different is allowing much faster carrier speeds (eventually), like 1GB LTE. Not that you'll see that any time soon. So, there's no rush to buy Snapdragon 835 phones until your carriers can deliver the speeds... But yes, the Snapdragon 835 and comparable (like Exynos) are an evolutionary step forward.
My point was, don't jump for the Galaxy S8 when there's LOTS more phones coming out in the next few months that will also have Snapdragon 835 and will be better than the S8, and probably less expensive. Including, but not least the ZTE Axon 8.
I still have a 2014 Snapdragon 805 phone. I'm not buying another phone until a manufacturer released a phone that has all the features I want, or very close to it. The ZTE Axon 7 came very close -- only the lack of Qi wireless charging kept me from buying it.
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Just got notice Friday night, that I'm eligible for a device upgrade on my At&t plan.....Since then, all's I've thought about was a Galaxy S8! It also doesn't help that 3 people at work and my brother-in-law all recently picked up the S8 and I've help them get them set up... These are seriously some nice looking phones!
There's several reason's I'm thinking of switching....But I'm seriously considering it?!?!
Am I crazy?
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I was on the same boat until I had it physically on my and hand, and the design is sexy af, but honestly, that's all. I have always been away from Samsung devices because I hate capacitive buttons, and when Huawei (favorite brand) started to put them, I started to look for something else, and Samsung made the contrary move by remove them and improve the design.
Screen is more less the same, and you have to know that battery is noticeable worse when using the device in full resolution, because they come with FHD as default and most of the tests about battery were done with this resolution.
Speaker is average, but is mono. Is a big dealbreaker for me, because no point in having that nice display when you have a mono speaker, is just ruins the multimedia experience.
And the final thing for me to make me pass for the S8 was the fingerprint scanner, next to the camera is the most retarded place to put it, so pretty much is unusable for me.
Price is not important for me, fortunately I can buy any device I want, and I was going to buy the S8 until I had it on my hand. Also I was considering the P10 Plus, mostly because of the camera, but that capacitive button is just not that nice and gestures don't work correctly. I was playing like 10 minutes with it, and gestures were all buggy and not intuitive. Before that, I also had the Mate 9, but I returned it and came back to the Axon 7 because of the screen and sound, even when camera was slightly better.
In conclusion, I won't be changing the Axon 7 until I see a real contender to it. Real stereo speakers, nice battery, good display and decent camera are enough for me, which none of the devices released in 2107 have. In my opinion, exchanging the multimedia experience for a "better" design is not the best move to do.
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I said "any" gap. I was just addressing the points listed. Where the Snapdragon 835 is different is allowing much faster carrier speeds (eventually), like 1GB LTE. Not that you'll see that any time soon. So, there's no rush to buy Snapdragon 835 phones until your carriers can deliver the speeds... But yes, the Snapdragon 835 and comparable (like Exynos) are an evolutionary step forward.
My point was, don't jump for the Galaxy S8 when there's LOTS more phones coming out in the next few months that will also have Snapdragon 835 and will be better than the S8, and probably less expensive. Including, but not least the ZTE Axon 8.
I still have a 2014 Snapdragon 805 phone. I'm not buying another phone until a manufacturer released a phone that has all the features I want, or very close to it. The ZTE Axon 7 came very close -- only the lack of Qi wireless charging kept me from buying it.
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what I meant is that there is not really a gap, it's not like the 820 is so slow already that one NEEDS a 835. A real gap is something like a a notebook with an Atom and a real laptop with a Pentium or a Core.
So the S8 has a faster processor but not needed by any application around.
Beside, I've read so many times that the S8 screen is very fragile. One drop and...
What are you tempted by? The stupid price? Locked bootloader? No root? Red tinted display? Random reboots? Subpar battery life? Fast charging not working while the display is on? Bloat? Lag? Lack of updates? Lower Android version than what the Axon is currently on? help me understand this temptation.
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What are you tempted by? The stupid price? Locked bootloader? No root? Red tinted display? Random reboots? Subpar battery life? Fast charging not working while the display is on? Bloat? Lag? Lack of updates? Lower android version than what the Axon is currently on? help me understand this temptation.
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Must be a good friend of Mase thats why, so unfortunate...
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What are you tempted by? The stupid price? Locked bootloader? No root? Red tinted display? Random reboots? Subpar battery life? Fast charging not working while the display is on? Bloat? Lag? Lack of updates? Lower Android version than what the Axon is currently on? help me understand this temptation.
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My boy chrih steps into the ring and immediately delivers a knockout blow early into the first round.
LG V20 here, Samsung sucks. Don't buy any of their phones unless you want a bloated piece of **** that'll run like ass after a few weeks of usage and break more than iPhones.
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ZTE AXON 8 will be released in 2-3 months and will address any Snapdragon gap, plus keep lower price and stereo speakers.
Plus with a paid off phone you can go pre-paid on major carriers. I pay $38.25 total monthly with no taxes/fees on AT&T (GoPhone, AT&T's in-house prepaid brand) for 6GB high speed data/unlimited calls/unlimited texts.
You can tell that's "pure" AT&T by the low ping speeds. MVNOs have higher ping speeds (higher lag).
But I bring my own phone, so I can get the pre-paid prices. I will never be "post paid" customer" where they rip you off.
I also make sure any phone I own can be rooted and have custom ROMs.
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The only thing the S8 has the ZTE Axon 7 lacks is the Qi wireless charging. Other than that, the 1-year old ZTE Axon 7 still beats the Samsung Galaxy 8 in every significant way (award winning DAC, front facing stereo speakers), etc.
If I were to get an S8, I would make sure it was the Exynos variant that could be rooted, surely NOT the AT&T branded model!
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Will the Axon 8 be released soon? I thought they were going to release an Axon 7S or something like that. Slightly upgraded Axon 7 (more ram, I think and slightly better snapdragon)
Edit: It's the Axon 7S, not the 8. There's not much difference between the 7 and the 7s
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Will the Axon 8 be released soon? I thought they were going to release an Axon 7S or something like that. Slightly upgraded Axon 7 (more ram, I think and slightly better snapdragon)
Edit: It's the Axon 7S, not the 8. There's not much difference between the 7 and the 7s
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There will be an Axon 8. The 7S is just an update for China, with Snadragon 821. It probably won't be released to other countries.
The AXON 7 was announced end of May last year, released in June. The previous flagship (2015) was middle of summer (announced July, released August). With the Snapdragon 835 situation could be June/July.
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Will the Axon 8 be released soon? I thought they were going to release an Axon 7S or something like that. Slightly upgraded Axon 7 (more ram, I think and slightly better snapdragon)
Edit: It's the Axon 7S, not the 8. There's not much difference between the 7 and the 7s
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There will be an Axon 8. The 7S is just an update for China, with Snadragon 821. It probably won't be released to other countries.
The AXON 7 was announced end of May last year, released in June. The previous flagship (2015) was middle of summer (announced July, released August). With the Snapdragon 835 situation could be June/July.
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As far as I know, the Axon 8 will be the same device as the Axon 7S, and they will just change the name for international market.
It seems the real change maybe will come next year when they released the Gigabyte phone the showed earlier this year.
I wanted to ask if it's worth buying another Note 4 within this year and 2018. I currently have the SM-N910H variant (Exynos), but I want to get one that's SM-N910F variant (Snapdragon). I found one that's about $480 but it's refurbished. Should I consider getting it or should I go for something else? Also forgot to mention that I have a spare ZeroLemon extended battery, since I have a TQTHL extended battery. So that's also why I want to get another Note 4 so I could put it to good use. Thanks In Advance.
Edit: Okay, so I wanted to revive this thread after a couple of months for any new insights on what smartphone to get. So far this year has been somewhat promising, with some disappointments about no headphone jacks and notches. But overall, I'm not sure if it's a good time to consider buying one or holding off till next year. I plan to get the Oneplus 5T during this summer, since the phone does seem like a worthy buy for about 400-500 dollars. I was also thinking about the note 8 or 9, but I don't want to sacrifice an arm and a leg for it. And I've lost faith in Huawei after their announcement about no more unlocked bootloaders. I know that there are plenty more to come, especially during the fall, but will it be worth the wait, since many new smartphones seem to follow the design of notches and no headphone jacks.
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I wanted to ask if it's worth buying another Note 4 within this year and 2018. I currently have the SM-N910H variant (Exynos), but I want to get one that's SM-N910F variant (Snapdragon). I found one that's about $480 but it's refurbished. Should I consider getting it or should I go for something else? Also forgot to mention that I have a spare ZeroLemon extended battery, since I have a TQTHL extended battery. So that's also why I want to get another Note 4 so I could put it to good use. Thanks In Advance.
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480$ refurbished WTF ! In my country i just got refurbished note 4 snapdragon N910T and exynos N910L 2 devices in 280$:laugh:.
Note 4 is still good device but its kind of old now if your budget is 500$ i highly recommend you (one+5) its super fast device 8gb ram+snapdragon 835 dual rear camera etc or my second recommendation will be (s7 edge EXYNOS) excellent device all around.
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480$ refurbished WTF ! In my country i just got refurbished note 4 snapdragon N910T and exynos N910L 2 devices in 280$:laugh:.
Note 4 is still good device but its kind of old now if your budget is 500$ i highly recommend you (one+5) its super fast device 8gb ram+snapdragon 835 dual rear camera etc or my second recommendation will be (s7 edge EXYNOS) excellent device all around.
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Thx for the info. I might consider about the OnePlus 5. Actually I did see a Note 4 Snapdragon SM-N910F on Amazon priced at about $268 but the condition of it was used.
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I wanted to ask if it's worth buying another Note 4 within this year and 2018. I currently have the SM-N910H variant (Exynos), but I want to get one that's SM-N910F variant (Snapdragon). I found one that's about $480 but it's refurbished. Should I consider getting it or should I go for something else? Also forgot to mention that I have a spare ZeroLemon extended battery, since I have a TQTHL extended battery. So that's also why I want to get another Note 4 so I could put it to good use. Thanks In Advance.
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bro its to spensive $480, i bought mine on e-bay for $180 you need to search more, i am using sm-n910s(exy os) with nemesis_refined rom and it is very great
alfrecuba said:
bro its to spensive $480, i bought mine on e-bay for $180 you need to search more, i am using sm-n910s(exy os) with nemesis_refined rom and it is very great
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I did find one for about $268 dollars, however it has been used though. Also I'm mainly looking for a Snapdragon one since I have the Exynos one already. But I might consider browsing a bit on eBay instead of Amazon.
Personally I would rather get a N910C as the N910F isn't very stable and has a tendency to overheat.
Keeping in mind the eMMC issue that so many on the forums have faced, the refurbished or used Note 4 could be a ticking time bomb. Perhaps better to put your money towards a new phone or at least a phone which doesn't have a history of hardware failures.
i found a N910T on ebay new for 238.00 hopefully it is new. how can you tell if its been referbished? Im switching back from the I 6Splus and cant wait.
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i found a N910T on ebay new for 238.00 hopefully it is new. how can you tell if its been referbished? Im switching back from the I 6Splus and cant wait.
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you can see it on ebay on the details of the phone,i baught my sm-n910s refurbished only for 189 usd and its works well
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Personally I would rather get a N910C as the N910F isn't very stable and has a tendency to overheat.
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I don't know about the C version, but my F version, after a little more than 2.5 years, it overheats for sure. When this happens, it is impossible to use it until it cools down.
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I don't know about the C version, but my F version, after a little more than 2.5 years, it overheats for sure. When this happens, it is impossible to use it until it cools down.
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I can personally vouch for the N910C. As it runs on the more stable Exynos 5433 SOC.
I just keep rebuilding my note 4 once you get good at seperating the bezel without craking the screen . U can repair any internal issues without haveing to buy a new screen every time. All the new notes have stripped down features. I need my ir blaster and removable battery I don't want to dismantle the phone just to replace the battery each year.
I think this note 4 will be my last phone, simply of the battery removal, and can tack on a 10000mah battery on longer trips, not to mention if you compare the specs between NOTE 4 and the new Iphone X, Note 4 Wins in many categories especially the screen and camera areas, also compare the note 4 to the note 8. Specs are comparable for this 3 year old phone. Works very well. But to @[OP] $480 is bit much. I paid $100 for mine, and they are about 180ish or so around my area.
I'd avoid any Snapdragon-based Note 4s if I were you. Apart from the overheat issue, the Snapdragon variants also suffer from the infamous EMMC issue, which is a deal-breaker.
to me, exynos is the best choice
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to me, exynos is the best choice
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Except the fact snapdragon version have much more custom ROMs (nougat fully working including, + oreo to come). Well if you have account on xda... then you probably will count it like a big plus
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Except the fact snapdragon version have much more custom ROMs (nougat fully working including, + oreo to come). Well if you have account on xda... then you probably will count it like a big plus
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Well that is true that Snapdragon does have a fully working port for nougat. But there is currently a developer who's working on porting nougat onto our Exynos devices. Many devs have given up on it but I feel like he might be the one to get it to work.
I'm still using using my 2.5+ years old n910c with a slightly newer battery and it never disappointed me so far .
Till today I haven't found any phone to be strictly better . All new phones have over note 4 are better SoC and Camera . But the new designs I don't like so much , not to mention luck of removable battery, SD cards, infrared , a proper load speaker etc.
The best upgrade for a note 4 would probably be note 8, but that's insanely priced so...
If you have the money you could get a Mate 9 and that would be a nice moderate upgrade too .
Is it a worthy time to buy a new Smartphone?
Okay, so I wanted to revive this thread after a couple of months for any new insights on what smartphone to get. So far this year has been somewhat promising, with some disappointments about no headphone jacks and notches. But overall, I'm not sure if it's a good time to consider buying one or holding off till next year. I plan to get the Oneplus 5T during this summer, since the phone does seem like a worthy buy for about 400-500 dollars. I was also thinking about the note 8 or 9, but I don't want to sacrifice an arm and a leg for it. And I've lost faith in Huawei after their announcement about no more unlocked bootloaders. I know that there are plenty more to come, especially during the fall, but will it be worth the wait, since many new smartphones seem to follow the design of notches and no headphone jacks.
Hello there. Totally worth it. Mine N910F is the best so far. Even G935F and G928F was my ex-phones and the only one pros was the 1h sot over my note 4 snapdragon.
Using a Samsung galaxy s20 plus exynos version and very tempted by the oneplus 8 pro. My main concern though is the curved comers of the oneplus 8 pro as this is likely to make it difficult to hold the phone without accidental touch presses. Anyone else come from s20 line or considering coming from s20. What are your thoughts please especially now that the S20 line is coming down in price well second hand prices.
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Using a Samsung galaxy s20 plus exynos version and very tempted by the oneplus 8 pro. My main concern though is the curved comers of the oneplus 8 pro as this is likely to make it difficult to hold the phone without accidental touch presses. Anyone else come from s20 line or considering coming from s20. What are your thoughts please especially now that the S20 line is coming down in price well second hand prices.
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I preordered my OP8 pro 12/256 GB on April 15th, expected dispatch date is April 22nd (8/128 was sold out at the time I placed the preorder)
But now my Carrier has a special deal for S20 series, I can get S20+ (exynos) for around 715 euro on a 2 year contract. Ok, it is 8/128 GB version, but still it is 300 euro difference
My previous phone was S10+ (sold it last week) and I was pretty satisfied with it. I actually like OneUI and the possibility of rootless theming with Synergy
I'm undecided what to do now, whether to keep the preorder or to cancel it and take the S20+
important things for me as per priority order : camera, batt life, UI smoothness and theming..
how is your experience with S20+ ? camera, batt life etc ?
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I preordered my OP8 pro 12/256 GB on April 15th, expected dispatch date is April 22nd (8/128 was sold out at the time I placed the preorder)
But now my Carrier has a special deal for S20 series, I can get S20+ (exynos) for around 715 euro on a 2 year contract. Ok, it is 8/128 GB version, but still it is 300 euro difference
My previous phone was S10+ (sold it last week) and I was pretty satisfied with it. I actually like OneUI and the possibility of rootless theming with Synergy
I'm undecided what to do now, whether to keep the preorder or to cancel it and take the S20+
important things for me as per priority order : camera, batt life, UI smoothness and theming..
how is your experience with S20+ ? camera, batt life etc ?
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Phew that's a good deal buddy. My experience with my s20+ has been overall good. I don't really measure battery that much as I work from home so always have a charger. As for the camera I just take random pics and we all locked down in the UK so haven't been out to capture good pics. The experience overall has improved in terms of performance. I know they say the sd version is better compared to the exynos but have never used the sd so I cannot compare. The thing that worries me the most are the curved edges of the oneplus as they look really big and annoying. As I spend literally all day on my phone for work I would definitely find them hard to manage as most reviews keep on about them curves ?.
i have a s20u hk unlocked bootloader, probably going to return it once i get my op8 pro
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i have a s20u hk unlocked bootloader, probably going to return it once i get my op8 pro
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Where did you get it can you return with unlocked bootloader?
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Where did you get it can you return with unlocked bootloader?
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Yeah it triggers Knox and you can't undo it.
I didn't go to Samsung any more because I am in the US and rootable Samsungs don't have newer US frequencies. My Tmo McLaren is rooted, so no more Samsungs over here.
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Where did you get it can you return with unlocked bootloader?
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Yeah it triggers Knox and you can't undo it.
I didn't go to Samsung any more because I am in the US and rootable Samsungs don't have newer US frequencies. My Tmo McLaren is rooted, so no more Samsungs over here.
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ebay, and yeah i can return it, and don't care if the seller doesn't like it. he mislabeled the ad for the phone having 66\71 bands for LTE when it didn't.
I hate samsung, i should've never gone back, what a nightmare especially with their CSC bs !
I have S20 ultra and just got my OP8pro. I havent set it up yet but checked it littlebit and i already hate that it has more curved screen than S20 has. Especially when Samsung started to get rid of curved screens...
I've been a Samsung user for many years, upgraded my Note 9 to the S20 Ultra and didn't feel satisfied. Today I received my OP8Pro 12Gb version and so far I'm blown away. What a mighty device, it makes me smile from ear to ear.
Let's see how this will remain after using this beast as a daily driver for a longer period.
Ordered the ultra, didn't come, cancelled it. Ordered the 1+8pro on the 20th at 1530, came at 0950 on the 21st. Free bullets.
Phone is a beast
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Ordered the ultra, didn't come, cancelled it. Ordered the 1+8pro on the 20th at 1530, came at 0950 on the 21st. Free bullets.
Phone is a beast
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Where are you based buddy? That was very quick delivery!
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Where are you based buddy? That was very quick delivery!
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I'm in the UK.
I was very surprised tbh, impressive, three used DPD
I am, my S20+ is on eBay now and hopefully my 8 Pro arrives today, would have preferred the blue but not an option in the UK so green it is.
Exynos is a mess this year and the camera still cannot cope with any movement at all in a scene.
I come from a long line of curved screen phones with accidental touch input..
This phone is not like that... curves are not as drastic as are made to look like on reviews.. And palm rejection is excellent as well. . just my 2 cents Love my OP8P in blue.
Right, so, I had my P30 Pro, and wanted to change with something better. Well, it's not, yet. I' e ordered S20 ultra, mega disappointed (camera, battery life, everything), then sold it, and bought s20+, which is far better, but still, the camera is the worst I've ev9seen. Try this, with a tripod: night, no light at all, from nowhere, night mode on, Galaxy S10, Note10+, S20+. Well, the camera, from s10 is impressive! And I'll post images soon. P30 was, and still is an amazing phone, at least for camera.
Now, taking these info in fact, and bringing the advantages from op8 pro, you have the answer. Op8 pro is way better for less money.
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Using a Samsung galaxy s20 plus exynos version and very tempted by the oneplus 8 pro. My main concern though is the curved comers of the oneplus 8 pro as this is likely to make it difficult to hold the phone without accidental touch presses. Anyone else come from s20 line or considering coming from s20. What are your thoughts please especially now that the S20 line is coming down in price well second hand prices.
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Im considering this currently with a s20 ultra with SD processor, but consider OP 8 Pro just for the development capabilities as flashing kernels, roms, etc.
However with all the FP issue after unlock bootloader and doing all the customization options this phone would allow me to do it, im starting to doubt about making the change, im reading all the days this forum to see any updates regarding on those issues, because to keep it stock i would better stay with the s20 ultra.
Any thoughts?
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Im considering this currently with a s20 ultra with SD processor, but consider OP 8 Pro just for the development capabilities as flashing kernels, roms, etc.
However with all the FP issue after unlock bootloader and doing all the customization options this phone would allow me to do it, im starting to doubt about making the change, im reading all the days this forum to see any updates regarding on those issues, because to keep it stock i would better stay with the s20 ultra.
Any thoughts?
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No fingerprint issues that I've seen if you do everything correctly.
Even keeping it stock I would still go with the OP
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No fingerprint issues that I've seen if you do everything correctly.
Even keeping it stock I would still go with the OP
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What would be the correct steps in your thinking to just flash another kernel?
It would be my first OP so not able to compare between samsung vs OP, but if you do, what are the points that will make you go to the OP?
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I am, my S20+ is on eBay now and hopefully my 8 Pro arrives today, would have preferred the blue but not an option in the UK so green it is.
Exynos is a mess this year and the camera still cannot cope with any movement at all in a scene.
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Exynos is a mess every year lol. Glad i sold my Exynos S20U 5G. OnePlus 8 pro is much better in every way..
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Using a Samsung galaxy s20 plus exynos version and very tempted by the oneplus 8 pro. My main concern though is the curved comers of the oneplus 8 pro as this is likely to make it difficult to hold the phone without accidental touch presses. Anyone else come from s20 line or considering coming from s20. What are your thoughts please especially now that the S20 line is coming down in price well second hand prices.
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I had the s20 ultra snapdragon version briefly. It was ok, but not much different from my note 10 plus. The OnePlus 8 pro is waaaaay better to me. Especially for the amount your paying $1500 vs $1000... OnePlus all day