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Since I don't think I can re-phrase myself in a better way, I'll just quote myself from a different topic:
CrisR82 said:
The more I look at it, the more I'm convinced that the problem is the ROM devs themselves - seems like most rush ahead and as soon as a new Android version pops out - scrap bug-fixing what they made so you can have a fully stable version and move straight to a new one, bringing all the old bugs along with a ton of new ones.
I have to be honest, after some replies and PMs I decided to use dual-boot and try some other stuff...and I'm convinced the ROMs that can be classified as "stable" are less than 5...total. All others seem to have some type of issue that can screw over a person's daily life in one way or another.
Am I the only one that feels this way?
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I would really like to see what you guys think on the subject: should developers slow down [maybe skip a version] to provide a genuinely stable ROM, or leap ahead for the new version and patch it out to a "usable" degree?
Most ROM developers are pretty much unpaid volunteers.
They should do whatever they want.
If you do the ROM, you get to choose.
It all shakes out one way or another.
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Exactly. What a presumptuous thread. Also, why do you even need a 2nd thread to pose this question given your ongoing thread about not dissimilar issues ?
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Most ROM developers are pretty much unpaid volunteers.
They should do whatever they want.
If you do the ROM, you get to choose.
It all shakes out one way or another.
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I already know that...but here's the thing - noone makes a ROM him himself/herself only. Most people make a ROM and share it for others to use, so while the final decision is ALWAYS up to the individual dev, it's still good to know what the community prefers (or at least it would've mattered to me if I was a dev).
If we go with the logic that community opinion doesn't matter at all, we might aswell get rid of all topics that are not bug reporting or guides.
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Exactly. What a presumptuous thread. Also, why do you even need a 2nd thread to pose this question given your ongoing thread about not dissimilar issues ?
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Because it has little to do with the other thread?
"Share your first experience with custom ROMs" - "Do you think custom ROMs are being made and moved on from too fast?"...see the difference?
AFTER A BIG BANG a STABLE EARTH WAS FORMED.. If u want a pure stable ROM u have to progress. So its better we leave the DEVs work on it. Moreover its free be happy... We are not supposed to judge them what they focus on...
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I already know that...but here's the thing - noone makes a ROM him himself/herself only. Most people make a ROM and share it for others to use, so while the final decision is ALWAYS up to the individual dev, it's still good to know what the community prefers (or at least it would've mattered to me if I was a dev).
If we go with the logic that community opinion doesn't matter at all, we might aswell get rid of all topics that are not bug reporting or guides.
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OK, sure.
But I don't like the statement that "the problem is the ROM devs". It's criticism, and I think criticism is better directed at parties that are doing it for commercial purposes where I/we are paying customers, such as Google or the phone OEMs, or even CM Inc and MIUI Inc.
For popular phones there are a variety of ROMs. Some are more stable (often stock based) and many are more bleeding edge.
Even Google is more bleeding edge with AOSP on Nexus devices. How many times have we heard of longstanding AOSP Nexus bugs, such as BT issues ?
People slam the phone OEMs and carriers for taking so long to provide updates. Yet those bleeding edge updates, even from Google are often very buggy.
I'm happy to have a variety of choices. Let the chips fall where they may. Unless I've contributed financially to a ROM dev, I'm not generally going to ask him/her to follow any wishes I have about stability or leading edge features. (I've made a few exceptions where a popular ROM has nasty bugs that impact the users of my commercial apps.)
I have 20 phones to do testing and development of my apps. I go into these XDA forums and look for the most popular ROMs. Sometimes I want the latest to do KitKat testing, sometimes I want the most popular, and sometimes I want something stable (often stock based, as it turns out, or based on CM10.2 for example.)
i think first they should progress a bit then make that much part stable and move son
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OK, sure.
But I don't like the statement that "the problem is the ROM devs". It's criticism, and I think criticism is better directed at parties that are doing it for commercial purposes where I/we are paying customers, such as Google or the phone OEMs, or even CM Inc and MIUI Inc.
For popular phones there are a variety of ROMs. Some are more stable (often stock based) and many are more bleeding edge.
Even Google is more bleeding edge with AOSP on Nexus devices. How many times have we heard of longstanding AOSP Nexus bugs, such as BT issues ?
People slam the phone OEMs and carriers for taking so long to provide updates. Yet those bleeding edge updates, even from Google are often very buggy.
I'm happy to have a variety of choices. Let the chips fall where they may. Unless I've contributed financially to a ROM dev, I'm not generally going to ask him/her to follow any wishes I have about stability or leading edge features. (I've made a few exceptions where a popular ROM has nasty bugs that impact the users of my commercial apps.)
I have 20 phones to do testing and development of my apps. I go into these XDA forums and look for the most popular ROMs. Sometimes I want the latest to do KitKat testing, sometimes I want the most popular, and sometimes I want something stable (often stock based, as it turns out, or based on CM10.2 for example.)
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I think people are misinterpreting my words...I'm not saying devs are terrible, bad at their work or anything like that, I'm sharing a thought on why I think most ROMs are not stable enough for everyday use and made a poll to see if others think this too, or simply put "a topic where people can show preference", I never once said "you should listen to me" or "do it how I say because it's better". While I personally don't have any use for custom ROMs in my daily life, I'm always happy to see more and more people making ROMs, stable or not.
However, I will say one thing and back it up forever - "it's not commercial" is not a valid reason not to criticize something. Any forum or work (coding, art etc.) is fully subject to criticism. So to people telling me "you cant criticize developers because they do it for free" - yes I can (not to mention it's my real life job)...it's called "having a point of view", if you agree or don't agree - that's up to you.
In short - this is a topic to see points of view on this, NOT to force anyone into changing his/her way of work. So stop treating it like one. It's how forums work - you open a topic to discus something.
P.S. yeah, now after re-reading it, I might've picked wrong words when I said "the problem are the devs"..."problem" in particular doesn't seem like an appropriate word for it...I apologize if I offended any dev with it.
Devs should continue to do whatever the hell they want to do however the hell they want to do it & ignore people like you.
Opinions & arseholes.
In my opinion, in order for rom makers to gain loyal users, they should prioritize stability while making progresses.
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I also prefer stability over features.
@CrisR82 +1 for posts.
Which ROM You now using?
And with which you feel most satisfied?
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@CrisR82 +1 for posts.
Which ROM You now using?
And with which you feel most satisfied?
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I'm using the Samsung stock ROM (Spain region) since my job requires me to do so, but I really like MIUI for its awesome stability and customization (though I have a feeling they'll never update the S2 to 4.2 or higher)...but I also like CyanogenMod 10.1 (the stable build) for the slight performance increase (and I would've probably kept it if it wasn't for the unfixable MHL and other Samsung closed source things that don't work).
I'm also keeping an eye on Omni and I plan to give it another try once it reaches a more stable stage since it fixes some graphics issues on the S2 GT-i9100.
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I'm using the Samsung stock ROM (Spain region) since my job requires me to do so, but I really like MIUI for its awesome stability and customization (though I have a feeling they'll never update the S2 to 4.2 or higher)...but I also like CyanogenMod 10.1 (the stable build) for the slight performance increase (and I would've probably kept it if it wasn't for the unfixable MHL and other Samsung closed source things that don't work).
I'm also keeping an eye on Omni and I plan to give it another try once it reaches a more stable stage since it fixes some graphics issues on the S2 GT-i9100.
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Nice...
This http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2562055 4.4.2 ROM?
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Nice...
This http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2562055 4.4.2 ROM?
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Yes, that's the Omni one I used
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Yes, that's the Omni one I used
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If you try it, let impressions. I can't even find a rom that suits me...
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If you try it, let impressions. I can't even find a rom that suits me...
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I already have and I posted my thoughts on it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2580635
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If you try it, let impressions. I can't even find a rom that suits me...
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you can try slimsaber 4.4.2 by FJ. good battery,stable for me and ART working on all my apps.:good:
Anybody know of a list of features that do not work on custom ROMs compared to stock TouchWiz?
From the top of my head there are things like:
HDR
60 fps
burst mode
one-handed operations
Air Gesture
...and why are theses issues never listed in OP under "Known issues"?
I don't want to start a discussion which firmware is better, I'm just curious!
Hello,
These are features of stock and stock-based custom ROMs only, CM/CM-based ROMs don't have them since aren't a part of AOSP or CM itself. So, aren't issues.
HDR works also in CM ROMs
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AntaresOne said:
Hello,
These are features of stock and stock-based custom ROMs only, CM/CM-based ROMs don't have them since aren't a part of AOSP or CM itself. So, aren't issues.
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I think, only because Android doesn't support certain features that shouldn't mean that they are not missing if they could be there right? The user should be able to decide if a switch to a custom firmware is worth it.
But I realize it is difficult to decide which functions could be covered by third-party-apps and which ones are not...
HDR works also in CM ROMs
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HDR is working for you? I tried CM and SlimKat and it is not working with Google Camera (but I just found out it works with CM stock camera app). Thanks.
However, the main question is unanswered!
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I think, only because Android doesn't support certain features that shouldn't mean that they are not missing if they could be there right? The user should be able to decide if a switch to a custom firmware is worth it.
But I realize it is difficult to decide which functions could be covered by third-party-apps and which ones are not...
HDR is working for you? I tried CM and SlimKat and it is not working with Google Camera (but I just found out it works with CM stock camera app). Thanks.
However, the main question is unanswered!
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With your main question you mean why they are not listed under known issues?
It's because they are not issues. Developers choose to not support it or have simply more important things to code.
Users still can decide if a custom rom is worth it. If they don't want to try the rom, then they are simply not suited for custom roms.
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With your main question you mean why they are not listed under known issues?
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Thanks but my main question is in the thread title of course: "Is there a list of missing features in custom ROMs" (for the SGS4).
babbeling and generalizing
Lennyz1988 said:
Users still can decide if a custom rom is worth it. If they don't want to try the rom, then they are simply not suited for custom roms.
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I use custom roms for 6 years or so (and love it )but still don't get the concept of: "You have to try it or your not worthy."
If every human had to try everything for himself without trusting the experience of others, mankind would still be inventing the wheel.
We would have to try every single kernel out there and be knowledgable enough to be able to compare them. We would have to test every single ROM out there to be able to make a decision.
When I want to buy, say a dishwasher, I wouldn't test all of them but compare the specs, right? and maybe I'd look for tests and recommendations. I forgot where I wanted to go with this...
...but I think it is not out of the world to ask for a feature comparison so users would be able to do a sane product decision.
(Don't get me wrong: I do not expect it from the devs, that do all this for free, but I would recommend them to do it to advertise their product if they want to spread it. I just don't understand why everyone who asks for some recommendation will be seen as lazy.)
measel said:
I use custom roms for 6 years or so (and love it )but still don't get the concept of: "You have to try it or your not worthy."
If every human had to try everything for himself without trusting the experience of others, mankind would still be inventing the wheel.
We would have to try every single kernel out there and be knowledgable enough to be able to compare them. We would have to test every single ROM out there to be able to make a decision.
When I want to buy, say a dishwasher, I wouldn't test all of them but compare the specs, right? and maybe I'd look for tests and recommendations. I forgot where I wanted to go with this...
...but I think it is not out of the world to ask for a feature comparison so users would be able to do a sane product decision.
(Don't get me wrong: I do not expect it from the devs, that do all this for free, but I would recommend them to do it to advertise their product if they want to spread it. I just don't understand why everyone who asks for some recommendation will be seen as lazy.)
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I understand what you mean but I think you are missing the point.
I remember when Cyanogenmod was ported to the Galaxy S2. It was a big thing to get it to work on that device. The first post from a member was: "What's not working?". The developer replied: "Is that why you are here for?" Using custom roms is not about things that are missing, it is about things that work. People put a lot of work into it and then it's never nice to hear people about things that don't work. Especially with asop roms, everything has to be coded from scratch. It takes time to finish the rom and perhaps the rom will never be finished.
I think that's my biggest objection. Instead of focussing on the things that don't work, you should focus on the things that work.
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I understand what you mean but I think you are missing the point.
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Thank you for your opinion.
People put a lot of work into it and then it's never nice to hear people about things that don't work.
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Well I deliberately did NOT ask in CM or SK threads for exactly that reason! I am grateful for all the developers work.
I think that's my biggest objection. Instead of focussing on the things that don't work, you should focus on the things that work.
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While your opinion is great, still, my question is valid. I bought an expensive piece of hardware and I am looking for the best [1] system. For that I need to know what I get, and what I do not get (at least compared to stock).
Comparisons never really fit but to paint a picture, Replicant is a ROM that has a great philosophy, but depending on the device model not even Wifi is working. That is a phone feature that I am not willing to miss, because I kinda paid for it, right? So my decision here is: I like the idea of privacy and I really want that, but I don't even need a privacy aware phone when it can't connect to the internet (I am exaggerating here.)
Back to my initial question: Is there a list of features that you will loose with custom roms compared to stock?
[1] best for me.
Could anyone please answer my 2 questions
1) How is the custom Rom support for OnePlus devices?(XDA and elsewhere)
2) I am planning to buy OP3, what are your thoughts on this?
bhat_vikas said:
Could anyone please answer my 2 questions
1) How is the custom Rom support for OnePlus devices?(XDA and elsewhere)
2) I am planning to buy OP3, what are your thoughts on this?
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1. Just check similar forums fpr OP2. I'm in the same boat to get rid of my Nexus 5 and get OP3. As far as I understood, there is MultiROM support as well whole bunch of AOSP ROMs fo OP2. I would think it's safe bet to expect the same for OP3.
2. Looking on the specs itself - looks it should be great phone.
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1. Just check similar forums fpr OP2. I'm in the same boat to get rid of my Nexus 5 and get OP3. As far as I understood, there is MultiROM support as well whole bunch of AOSP ROMs fo OP2. I would think it's safe bet to expect the same for OP3.
2. Looking on the specs itself - looks it should be great phone.
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yes it is. Only part that worries the most is the software. Specs are top notch.
mind you - we're on xda, where devs cooking ROMs. And that's awesome that there is such website
starche_old said:
mind you - we're on xda, where devs cooking ROMs. And that's awesome that there is such website
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Indeed it is. I own Samsung S3 dated back to 2012. I still can use Marshmallow only because of XDA!.
OP3T still is on the March 1st security patch (2017-03-01), and is missing the fixes corresponding to 2017-03-05 patch (8 critical items of which at least 6 should be applicable to OP3T) and both 2017-04-01 and 2017-04-05 security patch levels (at least 1 huge critical item plus a lot of slightly smaller ones).
https://source.android.com/security/bulletin/2017-03-01
https://source.android.com/security/bulletin/2017-04-01
And?
That's nice, why tell us? Report it to OnePlus?...or use a custom rom where all the latest security updates are in place.
I don't really care because i think the phone is awesome, the price was awesome and the constant updates is absolutely amazing. But it is a bit bizarre i get 2 updates a month on the beta yet they can't for some reason include the latest security patches. Like why do something so well then slightly ruin it?
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That's nice, why tell us? Report it to OnePlus?...or use a custom rom where all the latest security updates are in place.
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People should flash custom ROMs to get security updates? That's the most idiotic thing i've read today. Well done.
DirkGently said:
People should flash custom ROMs to get security updates? That's the most idiotic thing i've read today. Well done.
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Yeah, obviously, much more sensible to direct a complaint about the stock rom to people who have nothing to do with OnePlus and can do nothing to solve it.
EuEra said:
I don't really care because i think the phone is awesome, the price was awesome and the constant updates is absolutely amazing. But it is a bit bizarre i get 2 updates a month on the beta yet they can't for some reason include the latest security patches. Like why do something so well then slightly ruin it?
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Security updates bring along bugs. That's why security patches aren't included in updates so often.
And do you really think someone is exploiting your data through these exploits.
Most exploits don't even concern anything remotely dangerous to data.
Even apps on playstore tend to theft data more then any exploit did till date.
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People should flash custom ROMs to get security updates? That's the most idiotic thing i've read today. Well done.
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thats true. what was wrong with that?
DirkGently said:
People should flash custom ROMs to get security updates? That's the most idiotic thing i've read today. Well done.
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Okay. I'll fix the official roms for you. Happy now?
Just use a custom ROM OOS sucks anyways.
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Just use a custom ROM OOS sucks anyways.
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Oxygen OS is the best ROM/OS I've ever used,
And was the main reason for me to choose a OP3T over others phones.
Sadly,nowadays custum roms brings more harm than good.
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Just use a custom ROM OOS sucks anyways.
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Best stock ROM out there, honestly. Closest to AOSP as you're going to find.
Aosp is boring. And as soon as oneplus 5 releases you can say bye bye to oos updates for the 3 and 3t. Better start getting used to custom ROMs if you want any future for your device. And oneplus has already stopped updating security patches. Custom ROM devs are much better with keeping up with everything. OOS doesn't even have 7.1.2 yet and I always see OOS users complaining about not having this or that feature or how they can get it. Which most custom roms have all of the features that everyone wants right of the bat. And if you really want a good aosp experience there are plenty of OOS based roms with lots of extra goodies out there. Like aosp extended or freedomos plus lots of others. OOS is basically just base bones with features that aren't even that useful and if you try to say that you can switch to dark mode and change accents then I say substratum. Which almost every ROM out there supports oms now. The way I see it is people who stick to stock are afraid of changing and tinkering with their device or just don't know how to. Bottom line is OOS is terrible best rom for this phone is resurrection remix hands down.
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Oxygen OS is the best ROM/OS I've ever used,
And was the main reason for me to choose a OP3T over others phones.
Custum roms brings more harm than good.
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custom ROM brings no harm. I always use custom roms and have no problems. You just don't know what your doing.
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. You just don't know what your doing.
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i used custom roms before the day you got you're first android phone and joined XDA.
Android gained maturity since marshmallow,
OOS has all the details missing from Stock android(wich is the best)
So you would like to believe. I know what I'm doing and have been modding since way before marshmallow. Your the type to complain to everyone here at xda when something goes wrong. I just fix out on my own. OOS sucks and that's that of you can't use a custom rom without problems then that's your not knowing what your doing.
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i used custom roms before the day you got you're first android phone and joined XDA.
Android gained maturity since marshmallow,
OOS has all the details missing from Stock android(wich is the best)
Customs roms are s**t,good luck with what your doing.
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I'd usually agree with you about custom Roms but RR is mature and truly is excellent and as good as if not better than OOS and is on April security with 7.1.2.
No doubt the custom ROMs are probably solid. But stock 7.1.1 oos (+beta) is the best stock ROM I have ever used. Fast, smooth, very close to asop with some nice tweaks. It matches the hardware nicely. It really should have up to date security patches. Maybe mention it to the couple of OnePlus guys on the forums, like @Funk Wizard @innocentwoolf
I'm guessing those guys are linked to OP, just from what I have seen, not for sure. Sorry if I'm mistaken guys.
As Android is further refined, there are fewer and fewer reasons to use a custom ROM for most users,custom ROMs will always be relevant to entry-level/midrange smartphone users, or those who still use older devices, that aren't receiving official updates from OEMs anymore.
Come on guys, the dude was escalating / highlighting something which is valid. but yeah, it should be escalated to OnePlus instead. Anyway, lets not be toxic to one another
override182 said:
Come on guys, the dude was escalating / highlighting something which is valid. but yeah, it should be escalated to OnePlus instead. Anyway, lets not be toxic to one another
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Hello Developers, fellow users. I am Sam and I'd like to point out something that has been happening everywhere for years but it gets ignored.
I've been using Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 since when it was released in India and I was a XDA member even before that! Previously I had a Samsung Galaxy flagship phone.
Guys, all we've been doing is chasing our tails. Let me tell you why I say this. It starts with using MiUi and getting bored, then eventually Stock Android/AOSP ROMs are made (Of course because of the hard work the developers put in). We use them, they work really good, and their bugs are fewer.
However, as soon as there's a "Newer Version" of Android released, everthing else is left in the dust and forgotten!
Here's what I want to ask anyone and everyone who would answer it......
Why do we chase something that isn't even released for our device? What's the rush?
It started with Marshmallow release.
There were good lollipop ROMs and Marshmallow did not come out for our device, but nevertheless, the process started. Okay, but by the time when some good Marshmallow ROMs were being made, Nougat gets released and all hell breaks loose, "AGAIN"!!! Once more, the process started. And again on the verge of having some good Nougat ROMs, "Oreo is released"? Please see the pattern here!!
Now, we know that Nougat might never be made available, officially, for kenzo.
My point is we haven't had a bug free ROM with good signals, ever!
Not in any version of Android!!
I urge the developers to consider, even partnering up, for making a good and bug free "Marshmallow ROM", Nougat Rom before moving on to OREO
@Demon_sss @TheStrix @xyxx @GreekDragon @PhenomX1998 @psndna88 @abhishek987 @TheDarkStrix @Umang96 @jhenrique09 @AmolAmrit @wight554 @dadi11 @poad42 @O_dinochka @minz1 @Ashish94 @ValoXis @flar2 @rocknegi @srisurya95 @Sudeep Duhoon @EsromG5
@scrubjay55
I make no demands guys, but more people than just me will be obliged if this becomes something real!
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Why do we chase something that isn't even released for our device? What's the rush?
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Cuz, this is XDA, dude!
Bored of MIUI is the basis for discussion? I'm in support of all devs I'm happy the way they progressed starting from Marshmallow & now we have stable Nougat where as Xiaomi is abandoning older devices.
Regarding the network strength there's not a huge difference between MIUI & Custom roms imo.
You have two choices try taking this to the next level of Xiaomi executives or never buy MI devices.
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Umm, Oh...Kay....!!
VaibhavKumar07 said:
Bored of MIUI is the basis for discussion? I'm in support of all devs I'm happy the way they progressed starting from Marshmallow & now we have stable Nougat where as Xiaomi is abandoning older devices.
Regarding the network strength there's not a huge difference between MIUI & Custom roms imo.
You have two choices try taking this to the next level of Xiaomi executives or never buy MI devices.
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1. The basis of this discussion is, actually, the love for stock Android. Not only we get bored of MiUi but also by using TouchWiz, Flyme etc. Okay!!
2. No we don't have stable ROMs yet, not really!!
3. It's strategy to abandon older devices that Xiaomi also follows, nothing odd about it!
So, in short,
I thank thou for your UNvaluable inputs here!!
I think AOSIP by shrisurya is almost complete nougat ROM with best signals and stability.RR,nitrogen,los are pretty strong ones too,so no problem in focusing on developing Oreo ones.just a rookie's thought.
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1. The basis of this discussion is, actually, the love for stock Android. Not only we get bored of MiUi but also by using TouchWiz, Flyme etc. Okay!!
2. No we don't have stable ROMs yet, not really!!
3. It's strategy to abandon older devices that Xiaomi also follows, nothing odd about it!
So, in short,
I thank thou for your UNvaluable inputs here!!
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I would rather ignore you at this point but let me answer :
> If you love stock android that's k but bored of MIUI? Do you have a life or just keep staring at your phone lmao, if you give valid reasons like performance, battery life etc that's acceptable.
> We don't have stable roms yet? all Nougat roms are stable for usage in real life i.e. Network, Battery life, No lags or FCs , Theme support, Security patches etc
> Are you talking about strategy with me? Kid, in this case a device that has millions of users and had success there's a lot more to expect in terms of software updates. Abandoning a device with such popularity just after a year is a terrible decision.
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2. No we don't have stable ROMs yet, not really!!
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Nougat ROMs are already plenty stable. Never experienced any bugs with the ROM I'm using for about 2 months now. Signal quality is the same with MIUI on mine. Using Desolation ROM by the way.
I think the 'Geek' in you is sleeping, you just need to wake him up and you will get the answer to your question.
This is positive post, No offence offered to anyone guys!!
Blueshark17 said:
I think AOSIP by shrisurya is almost complete nougat ROM with best signals and stability.RR,nitrogen,los are pretty strong ones too,so no problem in focusing on developing Oreo ones. Just a rookie's thought.
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Yeah 5.9 build of AoSIP is good for signals not much else though! None of the rest, i.e. including the newer version of the AoSIP, are even comparable with Global Stock Rom for kenzo!
bloodytolits said:
Nougat ROMs are already plenty stable. Never experienced any bugs with the ROM I'm using for about 2 months now. Signal quality is the same with MIUI on mine. Using Desolation ROM by the way.
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Okay, regarding the signal quality, no, it most unequivocally, isn't even as good as that of An MiUi Rom!
VaibhavKumar07 said:
I would rather ignore you at this point but let me answer :
> If you love stock android that's k but bored of MIUI? Do you have a life or just keep staring at your phone lmao, if you give valid reasons like performance, battery life etc that's acceptable.
> We don't have stable roms yet? all Nougat roms are stable for usage in real life i.e. Network, Battery life, No lags or FCs , Theme support, Security patches etc
> Are you talking about strategy with me? Kid, in this case a device that has millions of users and had success there's a lot more to expect in terms of software updates. Abandoning a device with such popularity just after a year is a terrible decision.
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You're aware that people have their own choices right, also most of us are here because, even if we don't hate/get bored of Miui, We at least don't like/prefer MiUi as much, which includes you too!
1. Also battery is the most....
You know what, I know you can't help me man!
I'm not interested in this stupid quarrel!
So, it's now an EOC with you Vaibhav!
Mr.Diligent said:
Yeah 5.9 build of AoSIP is good for signals not much else though! None of the rest, i.e. including the newer version of the AoSIP, are even comparable with Global Stock Rom for kenzo!
Okay, regarding the signal quality, no, it most unequivocally, isn't even as good as that of An MiUi Rom!
You're aware that people have their own choices right, also most of us are here because, even if we don't hate/get bored of Miui, We at least don't like/prefer MiUi as much, which includes you too!
1. Also battery is the most....
You know what, I know you can't help me man!
I'm not interested in this stupid quarrel!
So, it's now an EOC with you Vaibhav!
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Thread reported , you're just here to grab attention & get some likes.
On my Ignore list already.
Sent from my Redmi Note 3 using Tapatalk
Off you go.....
VaibhavKumar07 said:
Thread reported, I'm just here to grab attention & get some likes.
Sent from my Redmi Note 3 using Tapatalk
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Wait, wait, wait.... Do you do this more often?
Something tells me that you always say:
"Thread reported"!
Is this what you do? Do you ruin others' threads by engaging in pointless back to back comments?
Well I reported you as well!
Admin before removing my genuine thread, kindly check this guy out!
Mr.Diligent said:
Wait, wait, wait.... Do you do this more often?
Something tells me that you always say:
"Thread reported"!
Is this what you do? Do you ruin others' threads by engaging in pointless back to back comments?
Well I reported you as well!
Admin before removing my genuine thread, kindly check this guy out!
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To be fair, your thread is actually pointless/stupid. It's just ranting. You claim there are no stable Nougat, yet there are a lot here that says otherwise. Your definition of stable is suspect here. Probably, stable = perfect.
It's easy to check if signal strength really is better in MIUI. Flash MIUI, put your phone down somewhere then take note of the signal strength(dbm and asu not the signal bar) with several second intervals for several minutes(until you're satisfied) then do the same for the other ROM you want. Mine showed no difference. The only thing better with MIUI was camera quality.
I am using Nitrogen OS nougat for quite some time now, and I must say it's totally stable, never faced any problem till now. And I have even compared the dBm and asu with miui roms, and there's no difference practically, and there's no call drops or poor call quality issues also. You can definitely give it try, I don't know what else you mean by stable.
bloodytolits said:
To be fair, your thread is actually pointless/stupid. It's just ranting. You claim there are no stable Nougat, yet there are a lot here that says otherwise. Your definition of stable is suspect here. Probably, stable = perfect.
It's easy to check if signal strength really is better in MIUI. Flash MIUI, put your phone down somewhere then take note of the signal strength(dbm and asu not the signal bar) with several second intervals for several minutes(until you're satisfied) then do the same for the other ROM you want. Mine showed no difference. The only thing better with MIUI was camera quality.
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Try this mate with HDR+ on Gcam > MIUI cam https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-3/themes/google-camera-hdr-60fps-t3656675
Mr.Diligent said:
Hello Developers, fellow users. I am Sam and I'd like to point out something that has been happening everywhere for years but it gets ignored.
I've been using Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 since when it was released in India and I was a XDA member even before that! Previously I had a Samsung Galaxy flagship phone.
Guys, all we've been doing is chasing our tails. Let me tell you why I say this. It starts with using MiUi and getting bored, then eventually Stock Android/AOSP ROMs are made (Of course because of the hard work the developers put in). We use them, they work really good, and their bugs are fewer.
However, as soon as there's a "Newer Version" of Android released, everthing else is left in the dust and forgotten!
Here's what I want to ask anyone and everyone who would answer it......
Why do we chase something that isn't even released for our device? What's the rush?
It started with Marshmallow release.
There were good lollipop ROMs and Marshmallow did not come out for our device, but nevertheless, the process started. Okay, but by the time when some good Marshmallow ROMs were being made, Nougat gets released and all hell breaks loose, "AGAIN"!!! Once more, the process started. And again on the verge of having some good Nougat ROMs, "Oreo is released"? Please see the pattern here!!
Now, we know that Nougat might never be made available, officially, for kenzo.
My point is we haven't had a bug free ROM with good signals, ever!
Not in any version of Android!!
I urge the developers to consider, even partnering up, for making a good and bug free "Marshmallow ROM", Nougat Rom before moving on to OREO
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@scrubjay55
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Mr.Diligent said:
I make no demands guys, but more people than just me will be obliged if this becomes something real!
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But you are being demanding. You said yourself, you have been a member here for a long time. So why not do it yourself? Contribute instead of expecting others to do it for you. After all, that IS what this site is for. Developers.
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