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I recently bought an OTG-cable but I don't have any USB Hub atm, so when I play eg. Modern Combat 4, I use the mouse for normal mouse controls (look around, shooting etc) and the touchscreen for movement and other actions, but the problem is that Android only allows one at the time. So I can't walk while looking around at the same time. Is there a way to disable this?
No one knows? Gonna get an USB Hub in 1-2 days anyway so...
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RollsReus™ said:
Hi.
I recently bought an OTG-cable but I don't have any USB Hub atm, so when I play eg. Modern Combat 4, I use the mouse for normal mouse controls (look around, shooting etc) and the touchscreen for movement and other actions, but the problem is that Android only allows one at the time. So I can't walk while looking around at the same time. Is there a way to disable this?
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I don't think that can be disabled, but you can attach a bluetooth mouse or keyboard and it should accept input from both
Thought I would quickly put this out there, since I posed the question whether this could work in the "Shield Tablet revealed" thread while I awaited my controller and nobody seemed bothered to test it out. Background info is that Nvidia's site states that it can be used for wired play also, although the controller manual itself specifically states it won't work with other Androids or PC at the moment.
Plugged it in via USB OTG to my Note 3, and whattaya know, it works fine.
Tried Dead Trigger 2, perfect. Riptide 2, perfect. Jet Set Radio, perfect. Should note that even the capacity keys for volume/back/recent apps etc work. Tried PPSSPP and no problems there either, was even able to map the capacitive keys.
Next up: test with PC. May not have time tonight, so if someone else wants to take a punt and help the community out by all means try it and report back.
[UPDATE] Plugging into PC saw some generic USB input device drivers installed, which seemed very hopful, but couldn't get it to work with Dolphin. Will try again tomorrow with a couple of other programs.
Should add too that the controllers volume buttons have a nice distinct tactile click to them - I'm no having issues with them of the kind several reviews mentioned. I wonder whether Nvidia taking a moment to fix them following initial reviews resulted in the shortage of controllers for a time (as well as I think they underestimated how strong demand would be).
I'm really hoping there will be PC compatibility in the future. i have too many controllers. my laptop has an OK keyboard so I get away with not taking a full size keyboard with me on trips, but I always have at least a mouse, moga pro, and Xbox 360 controller. now that I have the shield controller I can leave the moga behind, but I'd like to dump the mouse and 360 controller as well.
Yes, adding PC use would make this a much more valuable gamepad. If you're listening Nvidia, make a small receiver dongle with micro USB OTG and full sized PC connectors so that we can keep it wireless in all use-case scenarios.
Worth noting I've only tried it on one program on PC, and even there only briefly, some others should take a look and see what they can do.
Has anyone used the Limelight app? I've got my PC which is wired into a Airport Extreme and then of course the Nexus Player is connected over N my router doesn't do AC. If I do the Nvidia Utility to optimize games and then run at 720p everything runs perfect but if I up it to 1080p it lags not really bad but bad enough that it annoys you. I know it is not the PC because it can run with everything maxed out no problem. I'm assuming it is a bandwidth issue getting to the nexus player. Would it be best to maybe get a USB ethernet adapter or a AC router. I have no problem running the ethernet cable actually already have one ran for my Roku 3.
jtboyz01 said:
Has anyone used the Limelight app? I've got my PC which is wired into a Airport Extreme and then of course the Nexus Player is connected over N my router doesn't do AC. If I do the Nvidia Utility to optimize games and then run at 720p everything runs perfect but if I up it to 1080p it lags not really bad but bad enough that it annoys you. I know it is not the PC because it can run with everything maxed out no problem. I'm assuming it is a bandwidth issue getting to the nexus player. Would it be best to maybe get a USB ethernet adapter or a AC router. I have no problem running the ethernet cable actually already have one ran for my Roku 3.
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mine operates 1080p fine
the only problem I have is sometimes when I load a game directly it is black screen, so I just load it through the steam dashboard.
Streaming from the nvidia tools, the picture is not great but I believe it's due to compression and not resolution. Also there's a bit of input lag, which appears to be due to streaming and not input communication (near instant response on the broadcasting PC).
Gave it my first shot tonight.
I'm using the Nexus Player over LAN via USB OTG and a StarTech (see: cheap-ass) USB 2.0 HUB. I set connection to 1080p 60FPS, and 100MB connection. I'm using a Netgear R6250 AC router. I was able to play Steam Big Picture without any noticeable input lag. I tested several different games: BioShock Infinite (the final checkpoint to the ending), Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky (much higher than 60FPS), Final Fantasy XIII (about 1 hour of gameplay), and Brutal Legend (played about 20 minutes of gameplay, hated it). The main point is: I was taken back. I didn't expect this to work so well, and I don't regret my Nexus Player purchase anymore, even if Google were to abandon the project as it stands now (lets be real, this project needs a lot of work).
If there's anything else you'd like to know, I'd be happy to provide the information. Oh, while I'm mentioning what I played, I'm running a fairly decent rig, an i5 4670k, with 8GB Corsiar RAM, and an EVGA GeForce 660Ti. Nothing is currently overclocked.
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SoundMage said:
Gave it my first shot tonight.
I'm using the Nexus Player over LAN via USB OTG and a StarTech (see: cheap-ass) USB 2.0 HUB. I set connection to 1080p 60FPS, and 100MB connection. I'm using a Netgear R6250 AC router. I was able to play Steam Big Picture without any noticeable input lag. I tested several different games: BioShock Infinite (the final checkpoint to the ending), Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky (much higher than 60FPS), Final Fantasy XIII (about 1 hour of gameplay), and Brutal Legend (played about 20 minutes of gameplay, hated it). The main point is: I was taken back. I didn't expect this to work so well, and I don't regret my Nexus Player purchase anymore, even if Google were to abandon the project as it stands now (lets be real, this project needs a lot of work).
If there's anything else you'd like to know, I'd be happy to provide the information. Oh, while I'm mentioning what I played, I'm running a fairly decent rig, an i5 4670k, with 8GB Corsiar RAM, and an EVGA GeForce 660Ti. Nothing is currently overclocked.
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What controller did you use? And was there any issue with button mapping?
SoundMage said:
Gave it my first shot tonight.
I'm using the Nexus Player over LAN via USB OTG and a StarTech (see: cheap-ass) USB 2.0 HUB. I set connection to 1080p 60FPS, and 100MB connection. I'm using a Netgear R6250 AC router. I was able to play Steam Big Picture without any noticeable input lag. I tested several different games: BioShock Infinite (the final checkpoint to the ending), Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky (much higher than 60FPS), Final Fantasy XIII (about 1 hour of gameplay), and Brutal Legend (played about 20 minutes of gameplay, hated it). The main point is: I was taken back. I didn't expect this to work so well, and I don't regret my Nexus Player purchase anymore, even if Google were to abandon the project as it stands now (lets be real, this project needs a lot of work).
If there's anything else you'd like to know, I'd be happy to provide the information. Oh, while I'm mentioning what I played, I'm running a fairly decent rig, an i5 4670k, with 8GB Corsiar RAM, and an EVGA GeForce 660Ti. Nothing is currently overclocked.
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Hmm sounds like it must be a bandwidth issue for me since the Nexus Player is using wireless N and the host is wired. Time to buy a adapter and get a wired connection. Just for curiosity can you try using your AC wireless and see the performance please.
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Hmm sounds like it must be a bandwidth issue for me since the Nexus Player is using wireless N and the host is wired. Time to buy a adapter and get a wired connection. Just for curiosity can you try using your AC wireless and see the performance please.
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I would think in the case of streaming, it would always be better to try to go LAN. I know it's certainly possible to not use WiFi, as I also own an Nvidia Shield Tablet and I play remotely every day (Wifi N,) but certainly preferable to be hard-wired in whenever possible. The Nexus Player automatically switches to LAN when it's connected and settings become available once plugged in. A shame so many things are needed to make that happen though.
I would like to play Grim Fandango Remastered on NP, is it possible via Limelight?
http://grimremastered.com/
Already run an Asus AC68u router (before owning the NP) so I've been playing limelight over ac WiFi. I also have a gtx660ti in my gaming computer. Extremely impressed by nvidia and the folks at limelight who REd the game stream protocol. Truly great experience for me, but I'm not an fps multiplayer fanatic. I just like playing campaign, adventure, hack n slash games on the big screen. My input lag and decode lag was 9ms. I honestly don't know if that's good or bad but it's the numbers I remember from playing Arkham Origins last night. I don't notice any performance hit with that lag. Everything feels real time to me, but I'm probably not very sensitive to that like some real avid gamers may be. Never tried Lan
Everything in my stream library has worked so far. I use the dual shock controller with the sixaxis apk (sideloaded). That screws up the remote but I use my tv remote through HDMI cec anyway, along with the ds3 controller I don't miss the standard controller. The sixaxis apk has a nifty trick that has helped me a few times. In preferences you can toggle "mouse" support with any button. I choose the PS-power button on the ds3. I can't recall which but one of my stream games just sits there asking me to press start, and I can toggle the mouse mode to press it. Most games that ask that (even without game pad support) usually go straight to the game as if limelight is helping you along by providing the start click or something
No problems with Limelght stremaing on mine.. 1080p/60fps, over ac wifi using an AC68u router. I've tested it with about a dozen games at this point, most only briefly.
Latency reported varied from 6 to 10ms, with the median probably falling about 9ms. Feel wise, it was barely perceptible, and didn't have any effect on gameplay in any games tested. I did not test with any shooters, other than Defiance, which is toward the slow end anyway as shooters go. I probably ran about 1hr of Guild Wars 2 through it without any problems - no disconnecting, crashing ,or other wonkyness. Once or twice I'd notice compression artifacts but they would clear up in under about 1/4th of a second.
On the gamepad side of things, I played Assassin's Creed: Black Flag a bit, using a 360 wireless gamepad and the MS usb receiver for it. Here's an interesting tidbit - the game popped into gamepad mode, even though there wasn't a gamepad hooked up to the PC itself.
The gamepad mappings were correct/all buttons worked the same within the game as they do when the gamepad is hooked directly to the PC. I'm not 100% sure that's an out of the box thing though, because I have been messing with the keymap file for the 360 controller to get it's d-pad working in general. I'll have to do a little more testing in that respect when I get a chance.
Overall the experience was great though, and really opens up some interesting possibilities.
I wish my Limelight would work but i think its a problem with my PC and Nvidia Experience sins i cant even get the program to open on my PC, just errors every time i try top open Nvidia Experience, and i tried to connect to my PC from the app and i got prompted with a box to enter the pin and managed to start a game from steam but it didnt work so good, the game started but suddenly i lost the ability to stear and the app kicked me and it takes 10 tried to get it to start just to play 1 minute...
So i tried Splashtop THD and Splashtop 2 but those where unuseable sins the screen was all green and flickery so i have to settle with Kainy HD that works fairly good...
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I wish my Limelight would work but i think its a problem with my PC and Nvidia Experience sins i cant even get the program to open on my PC, just errors every time i try top open Nvidia Experience, and i tried to connect to my PC from the app and i got prompted with a box to enter the pin and managed to start a game from steam but it didnt work so good, the game started but suddenly i lost the ability to stear and the app kicked me and it takes 10 tried to get it to start just to play 1 minute...
So i tried Splashtop THD and Splashtop 2 but those where unuseable sins the screen was all green and flickery so i have to settle with Kainy HD that works fairly good...
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Which nvidia GPU are you running?
I remember hearing about something similar called kino console but I've never tried it
darker_slayer said:
Which nvidia GPU are you running?
I remember hearing about something similar called kino console but I've never tried it
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well damn, that worked a lot better, might even pay the ~10$ sins it worked way better than my ~20$+ Splashtop THD.
i got a 970 GTX so should be no problem, but my Nvidia Experience wont even start and seems just buggy as hell, so Kino was a good alternative, low latency and smooth gameplay with the default remote.
Too bad. My 660 does great with limelight. Did you enable gamestream and tell it where to scan your game libraries?
It can also work well just staying inside steam, but on your steam-server you need to go to big picture mode and enable hardware accelerated encoding. HW decoding was enabled by default I believe, but encoding was not. Without it steam IHS will suck through steam and consequently through limelight
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Too bad. My 660 does great with limelight. Did you enable gamestream and tell it where to scan your game libraries?
It can also work well just staying inside steam, but on your steam-server you need to go to big picture mode and enable hardware accelerated encoding. HW decoding was enabled by default I believe, but encoding was not. Without it steam IHS will suck through steam and consequently through limelight
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ah, yes, the streaming was enabled and last time i used it i managed to laung borderlands but it soon stoped working and i allways have connection issues and gets disconnected soon after i connect.
the hardware encoding was not tho..., gonna give it one more go with it enabled when my kid goes to bed tonight, cheers again,
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Too bad. My 660 does great with limelight. Did you enable gamestream and tell it where to scan your game libraries?
It can also work well just staying inside steam, but on your steam-server you need to go to big picture mode and enable hardware accelerated encoding. HW decoding was enabled by default I believe, but encoding was not. Without it steam IHS will suck through steam and consequently through limelight
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I never knew this was an option . i shall be testing this too thanks
might explain why sometimes i a SLOW ENCODE message on the bottom left , im not using limelight however i have another pc i was just curious about limelight so took a gander in here , glad i did!
I really like this device.. especially when combined with ps4 remote play...
I got no problem using DS4 controller wired to shield.. but it's wired...
the problem is everytime i play ps4 using shield/any other controller it turns the right analog into mouse.. so I it's really hard to press R3 button.. and hate the mouse cursor keeps moving...
Is it possible to turn off the right analog as mouse? Or any other trick so i can use my nvidia shield/360 controller to play ps4 remote play?
Thanks in advance
I have the modded remote play with the invisible touch buttons. I attach the DS4 pad to the SHIELD with an OTG adapter on the micro USB port. The pads works perfect and there are no visual cues on the screen (i.e Cursor)
The adapters are very cheap and you'll find other uses for it I am sure. Hope this helps
He's referring to the nvidia shield, which recently updated and added "right thumb stick as mouse" for non TV apps. So when you try to look around it shoes a mouse, and the thumb stick doesn't work as intended. I'm having the same issue and wondering if anyone has found a workaround or way to disable it too.
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He's referring to the nvidia shield, which recently updated and added "right thumb stick as mouse" for non TV apps. So when you try to look around it shoes a mouse, and the thumb stick doesn't work as intended. I'm having the same issue and wondering if anyone has found a workaround or way to disable it too.
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I'm not a mind reader lol This section is for the SHIELD TV which uses the Android TV OS (it's not the same as what the tablet or portable uses). Perhaps posting or looking in that section will get you guys an answer sooner...I wish you all the best with it.
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I'm not a mind reader lol This section is for the SHIELD TV which uses the Android TV OS (it's not the same as what the tablet or portable uses). Perhaps posting or looking in that section will get you guys an answer sooner...I wish you all the best with it.
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Sorry I didn't see the last part that said "ie cursor" and saw the "otg adapter" and assumed you were talking about the shield portable devices. I too was referring to the Shield TV and just misrepresented it.
I used the XDA port with invisible touch buttons as well, but still get a cursor popup when trying to use the right thumbstick. If i'm not mistake, it's a feature added in the newest update to the Shield TV for non-tv apps to help navigate them better. I'm also unable to use the PS button or touchpad, but I just assumed it wasn't possible.
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Sorry I didn't see the last part that said "ie cursor" and saw the "otg adapter" and assumed you were talking about the shield portable devices. I too was referring to the Shield TV and just misrepresented it.
I used the XDA port with invisible touch buttons as well, but still get a cursor popup when trying to use the right thumbstick. If i'm not mistake, it's a feature added in the newest update to the Shield TV for non-tv apps to help navigate them better. I'm also unable to use the PS button or touchpad, but I just assumed it wasn't possible.
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Well I feel like a putz. I didn't even realize there was a micro USB on the back, or that it would function differently than the USB ports. Using an OTG cable like stated above does work, and there is no mouse prompts when using the right stick! Thank you @honosuseri
Jacobxtyler said:
Well I feel like a putz. I didn't even realize there was a micro USB on the back, or that it would function differently than the USB ports. Using an OTG cable like stated above does work, and there is no mouse prompts when using the right stick! Thank you @honosuseri
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Sorry for the confusion, I thought you were personally having problems with the SHIELD Portable with the built in pad. I was definitely talking about the SHIELD TV as you now know.
I have a USB HDD connected (adopted as internal storage) and had a USB receiver in the other port for a keyboard and mouse...that only left the Micro USB port available for the DS4, so I gave the OTG a go! Didn't take long to notice it worked far better than when in the standard USB 3 port. Happy to have helped
so there's no solution for this in shield android tv.. that's a pitty...
I have my M.O.J.O. in my living room and I use it for SPMC(kodi)/NetFlix/Hulu/etc and not much gaming. But I was researching and came across articles such as https://www.engadget.com/2013/11/10/nvidia-gamestream-third-party-devices/
So, the question is: Did nvidia gamestream capabilities ever make it over to the M.O.J.O. or was it all just hype on Mad Catz's part to sell more units? And if it was never officially brought over to the M.O.J.O., is it still possible? Or is it just a waste of time and energy at this point?
I'm looking at wanting to possibly play some pc steam games from the comfort of my living room, so I'm entertaining all options at this point. Do I sell the M.O.J.O. and by a Shield TV? Do I buy a Steam Link? Are there other options?
Hi @greevedogg It did make it to the MOJO... only via a third party client. The project is called Moonlight
It works amazingly well, I've played for hours streaming from my PC to my MOJO
A couple of suggestions: Firstly I found my MOJO starts jittering after playing on in for anything over half an hour. I eventually found out that the MOJO was over heating. I guess it's working pretty hard with all that streaming. I found that if i stand it on it's side, leaving a little gap underneath, there will be better airflow, and it no longer jitters.
Also they suggest using ethernet instead of WIFI, I can agree with this, you get serious lag if you play over WIFI... don't even try it. I play on an ethernet over power adapter and it works perfectly.
You need at least an Nvidia 650 card, and I found it necessary to manually add some games, as they weren't always detected by the Nvidia client.
High FPS games worked perfectly - like DIRT3 but point and clicks are more fun when lying on the couch - have fun with your MOJO
You can find the play store link here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.limelight.root
And the project homepage here: http://moonlight-stream.com/
Thanks @timjharvey! Yeah, I actually stumbled upon the Moonlight option after posting this thread! I had 2 Radeon 1gb video cards in crossfire set up on my pc, but I just switched them out for a 4gb GTX 1050 Ti card, so I could try out Moonlight. Like you said, it works surprising well, from what I have tested out so far... I only tried Counterstrike: Source for a brief moment the other night with a crappy BT keyboard. In the near future, I'll hook up a better set up and load up another game. I am hard-wired with ethernet, so it's pretty snappy there. Traditionally, I'm more of a keyboard and mouse gamer, but I might try to get used to the C.T.R.L.R. if it'll map out keys correctly...I think I'll also try to hook up the good kb & m just for s & g's. Thanks again for the input!
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I have my M.O.J.O. in my living room and I use it for SPMC(kodi)/NetFlix/Hulu/etc and not much gaming. But I was researching and came across articles such as https://www.engadget.com/2013/11/10/nvidia-gamestream-third-party-devices/
So, the question is: Did nvidia gamestream capabilities ever make it over to the M.O.J.O. or was it all just hype on Mad Catz's part to sell more units? And if it was never officially brought over to the M.O.J.O., is it still possible? Or is it just a waste of time and energy at this point?
I'm looking at wanting to possibly play some pc steam games from the comfort of my living room, so I'm entertaining all options at this point. Do I sell the M.O.J.O. and by a Shield TV? Do I buy a Steam Link? Are there other options?
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timjharvey said:
Hi @greevedogg It did make it to the MOJO... only via a third party client. The project is called Moonlight
It works amazingly well, I've played for hours streaming from my PC to my MOJO
A couple of suggestions: Firstly I found my MOJO starts jittering after playing on in for anything over half an hour. I eventually found out that the MOJO was over heating. I guess it's working pretty hard with all that streaming. I found that if i stand it on it's side, leaving a little gap underneath, there will be better airflow, and it no longer jitters.
Also they suggest using ethernet instead of WIFI, I can agree with this, you get serious lag if you play over WIFI... don't even try it. I play on an ethernet over power adapter and it works perfectly.
You need at least an Nvidia 650 card, and I found it necessary to manually add some games, as they weren't always detected by the Nvidia client.
High FPS games worked perfectly - like DIRT3 but point and clicks are more fun when lying on the couch - have fun with your MOJO
You can find the play store link here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.limelight.root
And the project homepage here: http://moonlight-stream.com/
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this is about four years too late to save the mojo, but it should work https://liquidsky.com it brings true cloud gaming to your phone, tablet, laptop, pc , n of course the mojo and no you don't need a pc of any sort
What firmware are you use?
I have problem with position of mouse
My PC 1080p and my TV 1080p, but mouse cursor has bad position
How i can fix it
My Android 4.2.2 - last official
wave_is said:
What firmware are you use?
I have problem with position of mouse
My PC 1080p and my TV 1080p, but mouse cursor has bad position
How i can fix it
My Android 4.2.2 - last official
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Hi @wave_js I'm running Remix OS - mainly because Netflix also works on this rom. What game are you having mouse cursor issues with? Is the game that you are having cursor issues with running at 1080?