G5 plus PIE custom ROMs - really an upgrade? - Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers

Of late, I have been going back and forth of G5 plus stock ROM and many of the custom PIE roms and have immediately noticed that the sound quality in the stock is so much clear and crisp. All the custom ROMs claim to use the Oreo firmware. My question is that is not the sound/volume setup not part of the firmware? If so, why is there a significant difference in the PIE versus stock ROM? Can anybody please help me understand what I am missing?

Well most of the custom roms have a bit of a volume boost on headphones. Didn't really check the speaker. The sound is also affected by the kernel sometimes as some kernels do have sound tweaks. If you are on a custom rom then you should definitely try viper4android. It's available as a magisk module or you can get a flashable zip too. You can tweak the sound in a way you like. It offers a lot of customisations.

debdeep98 said:
Well most of the custom roms have a bit of a volume boost on headphones. Didn't really check the speaker. The sound is also affected by the kernel sometimes as some kernels do have sound tweaks. If you are on a custom rom then you should definitely try viper4android. It's available as a magisk module or you can get a flashable zip too. You can tweak the sound in a way you like. It offers a lot of customisations.
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I installed viper4android with the Pixel Experience Pie ROM and when I tried to use it kept telling me that Busy Box was required and wouldn't run. The problem is I had Busy Box installed. So I had to give up on viper4android. Not really an issue since I rarely listen to music on my phone. But it was rather odd.

pastorbob62 said:
I installed viper4android with the Pixel Experience Pie ROM and when I tried to use it kept telling me that Busy Box was required and wouldn't run. The problem is I had Busy Box installed. So I had to give up on viper4android. Not really an issue since I rarely listen to music on my phone. But it was rather odd.
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right now, I installed viper4android 2.5.0.5 from magisk 19
never needed Busy box or any other
it's workig really great,
I'm on AEX Pie but it shouldn't make a difference

hab12345 said:
right now, I installed viper4android 2.5.0.5 from magisk 19
never needed Busy box or any other
it's workig really great,
I'm on AEX Pie but it shouldn't make a difference
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I went back and installed it again only this time making sure it was 2.5.0.5 and it works great now. Apparently I was careless the first time and installed an old version that is incompatible with my phone. Go Figure! :good::good::good::good::good:

hab12345 said:
right now, I installed viper4android 2.5.0.5 from magisk 19
never needed Busy box or any other
it's workig really great,
I'm on AEX Pie but it shouldn't make a difference
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Thanks for the info. Is there a list of default sound profiles that exists somewhere I can choose from, to import into the viper4android? I am basically looking to have the same sound clarity and quality as the stock.

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Viper for Nougat

Does anyone know if Viper is working on Nougat?
ShaunWinSC said:
Does anyone know if Viper is working on Nougat?
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Working great, check out WETA.
BewareAlbatross said:
Working great, check out WETA.
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Thanks, I was looking to use with stock.
Are you running WETA? How is it?
Working great on stock. Using Arise Numbers with Dolby Atmos.
ShaunWinSC said:
Thanks, I was looking to use with stock.
Are you running WETA? How is it?
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I've been running WETA and so far its running great. It has an aroma installer that lets you install the mods that you want and leave off the ones you don't so you can keep it close to stock.
therock3181 said:
Working great on stock. Using Arise Numbers with Dolby Atmos.
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I'm not familiar with Arise
ShaunWinSC said:
Thanks, I was looking to use with stock.
Are you running WETA? How is it?
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This.
therock3181 said:
Working great on stock. Using Arise Numbers with Dolby Atmos.
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And this.
I prefer running using Magisk v6 with the viper4 addon but Numbers is excellent as well, just waiting for WETA to support Magisk a little more cleanly before I head back to it. But if you don't use Android Pay or similar or for some other reason care about Magisk then WETA will get you up and running REALLY quickly with a great Nougat build. And it works fine with Magisk to a great extent, just a couple minor picayunes that I'm hoping will go away with time.:good:
Arise is basically Viper with Dolby Atmos. Tbh Viper is too much for me, as long as Dolby is working on stock N that has enough of an effect ,'m good to go But if you look back in the Arise thread, maybe back a week or so, i made a post saying that I finally got Viper/Dolby including SPEAKER See Speaker was something I was struggling to get to work on stock N with things like Spotify, play music, YouTube, even notifications, and some other things... basically every sound that comes out of the speakers except phone calls, unless it was via Bluetooth. Bluetooth was working overall, headphones were working overall and I even somehow found out locally stored music was working with speaker, but not those other things I had previously mentioned, was so weird. And of course it made it even more confusing bec some N users were saying it was fully working and others were in my situation.
That was until I found a post by user @SixFourSix he said to add/edit this certain file in system/etc . I went ahead and did that and after weeks of struggling, I had finally figured it out thanks to his tip. Everything was working with Viper and Atmos, those things I mentioned, except for one thing, phone calls, with Bluetooth I'm pretty sure it has an effect, but anything else with calls, for some reason, no. Don't know why. And I hadn't seen anyone comment on why. Maybe Arise isn't supposed to do that.
Yeah so go back to my posts in the Arise thread if you'd like, you'll see exactly what I mean.
Good luck
therock3181 said:
Working great on stock. Using Arise Numbers with Dolby Atmos.
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Just flash the numbers zip in recovery and that is all you have to do?
d1ez3 said:
Just flash the numbers zip in recovery and that is all you have to do?
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Can you provide a link to numbers, I'm having trouble finding it. :good:
ShaunWinSC said:
Can you provide a link to numbers, I'm having trouble finding it. :good:
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I couldn't either I had to post in their thread, it's here
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=108832
d1ez3 said:
I couldn't either I had to post in their thread, it's here
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=108832
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Are you running this with stock N? Everything work ok?
ShaunWinSC said:
Are you running this with stock N? Everything work ok?
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Just did a second ago. Everything working perfectly. It looks like it flashes 3 apps. I used the Viper atmos one and it is working for me. I installed busybox too. I also flashed EX kernel today earlier, not sure if that matters
d1ez3 said:
Just did a second ago. Everything working perfectly. It looks like it flashes 3 apps. I used the Viper atmos one and it is working for me. I installed busybox too. I also flashed EX kernel today earlier, not sure if that matters
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I'll have to give it a try. Now to wait for Xposed.
ShaunWinSC said:
Can you provide a link to numbers, I'm having trouble finding it. :good:
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/r-s-e-sound-systems-auditory-research-t3379709
Click androidfilehost and you will find Numbers as a folder.
BewareAlbatross said:
This.
And this.
I prefer running using Magisk v6 with the viper4 addon but Numbers is excellent as well, just waiting for WETA to support Magisk a little more cleanly before I head back to it. But if you don't use Android Pay or similar or for some other reason care about Magisk then WETA will get you up and running REALLY quickly with a great Nougat build. And it works fine with Magisk to a great extent, just a couple minor picayunes that I'm hoping will go away with time.:good:
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I'm trying to get Viper to work with Magisk,
I tried the zip from the magisk modules thread but it's asking me to install drivers at launch (which I didn't). Also tried selinux to permissive and force v4a, but didn't get it to process the audio. I also freezed music fx, but still wasn't getting anything.
I was running a song from SoundCloud to see if v4a was working
How did you manage to make it work with Magisk
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Picayune! Great word!!
therock3181 said:
Working great on stock. Using Arise Numbers with Dolby Atmos.
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i have stock android 7
flashed dolby atmos but not working
where to find working one?
rowihel2012 said:
i have stock android 7
flashed dolby atmos but not working
where to find working one?
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Change Selinux?
Sent from my Nexus 6P using XDA-Developers mobile app

which Nexus 6P ROMs include Viper4Android?

Just like the title says, which Nexus 6P ROMs include viper4android? I have had to much trouble trying to install it on to many different ROMs already, so I'm done with that.
So far I know Dirty Unicorns has a zip they reference and V4a works fine using the zip. Which other ROMs have you used which include Viper4Android or have a stupid easy way to install it? thank you very much!
drago10029 said:
Just like the title says, which Nexus 6P ROMs include viper4android? I have had to much trouble trying to install it on to many different ROMs already, so I'm done with that.
So far I know Dirty Unicorns has a zip they reference and V4a works fine using the zip. Which other ROMs have you used which include Viper4Android or have a stupid easy way to install it? thank you very much!
flash this sound mod
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24651430732237629
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drago10029 said:
Just like the title says, which Nexus 6P ROMs include viper4android? I have had to much trouble trying to install it on to many different ROMs already, so I'm done with that.
So far I know Dirty Unicorns has a zip they reference and V4a works fine using the zip. Which other ROMs have you used which include Viper4Android or have a stupid easy way to install it? thank you very much!
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WETA ROM has it built in. The ARISE mod that the previous response suggested you flash without linking to the forum has some of the same issues as regular V4A. Try V2.5.0.5 - worked well for me.
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ultyrunner said:
Try V2.5.0.5 - worked well for me
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on which ROM, WETA Audio ROM? cuz that one includes V4a already, so wouldn't be a need to flash.
As mentioned above, just flash WETA rom.
It comes with an aroma installer and you can select various combinations of audio mods.
I'm currently using it on my device WETA 8.T and its rock stable and sounds amazing
drago10029 said:
on which ROM, WETA Audio ROM? cuz that one includes V4a already, so wouldn't be a need to flash.
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No. If you want it built into the WETA ROM, then just install it. If you want to try an older version of V4A, then I'd recommend 2.5.0.5. With V4A, you also have to take a few steps to ensure you're permissive (at least in my case) and you do a few other things.
are you sure to installed it correctly? you know its different for the nexus 6p right? you gotta delete the audio effect.conf file after you install the driver
thelgog said:
are you sure to installed it correctly? you know its different for the nexus 6p right? you gotta delete the audio effect.conf file after you install the driver
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really? I have yet to see this on any v4a marshmallow guides, even ones for our phone
drago10029 said:
really? I have yet to see this on any v4a marshmallow guides, even ones for our phone
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Yes. Go to system/vendor/etc (Im pretty sure) &: delete audio effects file. Think thats where your struggle lies.
On the other hand, WETA is a pretty solid rom. I was using it for awhile.
KLit75 said:
Yes. Go to system/vendor/etc (Im pretty sure) &: delete audio effects file. Think thats where your struggle lies.
On the other hand, WETA is a pretty solid rom. I was using it for awhile.
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That didn't work, just tried
Man....so difficult Just either use WETA ROM, or just flash the arise audio Deuteronomy 2 zip and presto done-zo. Has worked perfectly on every single ROM I've used it on and sound is phenomenal.

Working audio mod

Can anyone suggest a working audio mod for the latest stock update ..I tried magisk ..it didn't work ..if there is any mod working ..please provide the link
Thanks
Honestly this is the main reason to understand my "love and hate" relationship with the stock rom. It's great, in terms of performance is even better than any custom rom i've used, but i tried every single method to get ViperFX working here, and i couldn't, always shows 'Processing: no' in driver status.
Regarding to your question Dolby Atmos is working. but i personally think that it's nothing compared to ViperFX.
moonlightdrive said:
Honestly this is the main reason to understand my "love and hate" relationship with the stock rom. It's great, in terms of performance is even better than any custom rom i've used, but i tried every single method to get ViperFX working here, and i couldn't, always shows 'Processing: no' in driver status.
Regarding to your question Dolby Atmos is working. but i personally think that it's nothing compared to ViperFX.
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Dolby atmos on magisk ??or the flash able zip??and thanks for the reply mate
venkatkrishna_s said:
Dolby atmos on magisk ??or the flash able zip??and thanks for the reply mate
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No problem, here you have.:good:
moonlightdrive said:
No problem, here you have.:good:
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Thanks!!
moonlightdrive said:
Honestly this is the main reason to understand my "love and hate" relationship with the stock rom. It's great, in terms of performance is even better than any custom rom i've used, but i tried every single method to get ViperFX working here, and i couldn't, always shows 'Processing: no' in driver status.
Regarding to your question Dolby Atmos is working. but i personally think that it's nothing compared to ViperFX.
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Viper4Android needs SE Linux Permissive app and set to Permissive
HueyT said:
Viper4Android needs SE Linux Permissive app and set to Permissive
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Yes, sure. I always tried using The SElinux Toggler. But it didn't make any difference, it only happens to me on stock rom, in other roms i just use the ViperFX Magisk Module and works perfectly.
You have been able to get v4a audio processing working in the stock moto's rom?
Thanks in advance.
Can one still pass SafetyNet after flashing Dolby Atmos sound mod?
baunthiyal said:
Can one still pass SafetyNet after flashing Dolby Atmos sound mod?
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Yes. Flash the one that i posted here, Safety passed.

Help with installing Viper4android/ViperArise

Didn't try this with renovate Ice 5.0 but with 4.0 when I installed Viper4Arise (I belive that's the name) I got no sounds from my speakers. Tried it a few times all the same result.
Just want to know the steps to take so I can get better sound on my phone, or if Viper4android works?
Thanks.
adz3d said:
Didn't try this with renovate Ice 5.0 but with 4.0 when I installed Viper4Arise (I belive that's the name) I got no sounds from my speakers. Tried it a few times all the same result.
Just want to know the steps to take so I can get better sound on my phone, or if Viper4android works?
Thanks.
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Check viper4android threads and renovate thread. There are people with the same issue you, use the search you will find some info. I have viper working flawless on stock rooted.
adz3d said:
Didn't try this with renovate Ice 5.0 but with 4.0 when I installed Viper4Arise (I belive that's the name) I got no sounds from my speakers. Tried it a few times all the same result.
Just want to know the steps to take so I can get better sound on my phone, or if Viper4android works?
Thanks.
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callumbr1 said:
Check viper4android threads and renovate thread. There are people with the same issue you, use the search you will find some info. I have viper working flawless on stock rooted.
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To quote my response, hope this helps:
Ok here's what I did:
- make sure any previous version of Viper is removed (I had an issue where I'd installed a version over another and it messed my sound up in that even on the lowest volume step it was playing full volume!). I used one of the viper with the aroma and chose uninstall. Then I used Titanium Backup to search for viper and removed another that way.
- flash this version:
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=817550096634776829
- if you don't have the Viper app appear then flash an apk of one. I used the pure black from from here (open up the zip and I used the 2.5.0.5 version):
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6OgctcRCMJvdUpSTnZYazhpM2s/view
I'm not sure if I'm just being picky, but I swear that this sound doesn't sound as good as previous setups. Though this is the first version that just works - as previously I needed to use compatibility mode for Spotify and to avoid issues, such as when I would play via Spotify, then load Poweramp whilst playing, it would silence Spotify resulting in me needing to kill both apps in order to resume audio.
Good luck!
cd993 said:
To quote my response, hope this helps:
Ok here's what I did:
- make sure any previous version of Viper is removed (I had an issue where I'd installed a version over another and it messed my sound up in that even on the lowest volume step it was playing full volume!). I used one of the viper with the aroma and chose uninstall. Then I used Titanium Backup to search for viper and removed another that way.
- flash this version:
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=817550096634776829
- if you don't have the Viper app appear then flash an apk of one. I used the pure black from from here (open up the zip and I used the 2.5.0.5 version):
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6OgctcRCMJvdUpSTnZYazhpM2s/view
I'm not sure if I'm just being picky, but I swear that this sound doesn't sound as good as previous setups. Though this is the first version that just works - as previously I needed to use compatibility mode for Spotify and to avoid issues, such as when I would play via Spotify, then load Poweramp whilst playing, it would silence Spotify resulting in me needing to kill both apps in order to resume audio.
Good luck!
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Im having this issue as well. Had viper4android on my s7 edge and it was much louder with alot more bass. Very disappointing. Cant figure out why its not as loud as the s7 edge. Any tips on how to boost volume. I'm connecting to Bluetooth in my car on a s8 plus.

How to preserve A7 with better software?

Hi all long time xda member since mytouch 4g days and have owned and modded everything Samsung phone since the note 2. So now moving along, I'm now a A2017u owner with bad boys Rom. Actually I've been stuck on it since it was released. I wanna download los but I'm worried about losing the Dolby Atmos, Dac and the ability to use the the internet while on a call. What los rom can I download that. Can help me keep that? I know about Devine beats but is it really as good? Also I just can't do the whole magisk thing. It just doesn't work for me. Just going I can flash files and get a nice stock system while preserving the perfect audio going. Also I have the phone working with Verizon and world like to know how to make calls and surf the net at the same time.
Thanks for all.
We're in April, I hope the Oreo Update will fully benefit the potential of our DACs.
Stock software rather than custom ROM?
Wanabedev83 said:
Hi all long time xda member since mytouch 4g days and have owned and modded everything Samsung phone since the note 2. So now moving along, I'm now a A2017u owner with bad boys Rom. Actually I've been stuck on it since it was released. I wanna download los but I'm worried about losing the Dolby Atmos, Dac and the ability to use the the internet while on a call. What los rom can I download that. Can help me keep that? I know about Devine beats but is it really as good? Also I just can't do the whole magisk thing. It just doesn't work for me. Just going I can flash files and get a nice stock system while preserving the perfect audio going. Also I have the phone working with Verizon and world like to know how to make calls and surf the net at the same time.
Thanks for all.
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Basically every custom ROM has that xd. Nougat and Oreo. I don't get why you say you can't get Magisk going? Have you tried a custom ROM at least?
Basically you have to format data, flash bootloader and modem (or bootstack), flash the ROM, Gapps, Magisk. Once you have all that installed just reboot and install the Dolby Atmos magisk module, or if you are on Oreo there's a flashable zip with the newest Atmos zip.
Though I don't know why you would use Atmos on headphones? The real deal is Viper4Android since it doesn't add a crapton of noise...
Noted.
Choose an username... said:
Basically every custom ROM has that xd. Nougat and Oreo. I don't get why you say you can't get Magisk going? Have you tried a custom ROM at least?
Basically you have to format data, flash bootloader and modem (or bootstack), flash the ROM, Gapps, Magisk. Once you have all that installed just reboot and install the Dolby Atmos magisk module, or if you are on Oreo there's a flashable zip with the newest Atmos zip.
Though I don't know why you would use Atmos on headphones? The real deal is Viper4Android since it doesn't add a crapton of noise...
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Thanks all for all the replies, info and suggestions. I was simply not aware of the things mentioned to me so looking into it. I also left out the "does the finger print reader work on these roms" question and would also like to know if you can suggest what roms currently work for you. I wanted to try the dark themed rom. What do you guys think of that one? Thanks again guys!
Wanabedev83 said:
Thanks all for all the replies, info and suggestions. I was simply not aware of the things mentioned to me so looking into it. I also left out the "does the finger print reader work on these roms" question and would also like to know if you can suggest what roms currently work for you. I wanted to try the dark themed rom. What do you guys think of that one? Thanks again guys!
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of course the fp sensor does. You know, there's a list of broken stuff on every ROM thread, you don't need us to figure what thing works and what doesn't. And for theming a ROM you can use Substratum, though AEX 5.3 (the Oreo one) has a theme engine that themes the UI (not apps)
Wow bro, thanks.
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of course the fp sensor does. You know, there's a list of broken stuff on every ROM thread, you don't need us to figure what thing works and what doesn't. And for theming a ROM you can use Substratum, though AEX 5.3 (the Oreo one) has a theme engine that themes the UI (not apps)
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Again thanks and no need to be a ****. Have a nice day. Jezz
Wanabedev83 said:
Again thanks and no need to be a ****. Have a nice day. Jezz
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I'm not being a ****, I'm realistic. The list is there, all you have to do is go and read it, otherwise you depend on others to know stuff that's plastered there

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