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OK, so I had a Vibrant and spend some time trying to tweak it to resolve the short battery life and GPS problems, however, at the end of my two-week "buyers remorse" period it still wasn't working very well (in fact, the last day it was working significantly worse - using Google Nav crashed the thing 4 times in a row!), so I took it back rather than get stuck w/it for a two-year contract.
However, looking at the alternatives, I'm not convinced there is anything better than a WORKING Vibrant, and reading more on various forums it sounds like I may have just had a bad unit ... or not applied the right tweaks to it. So I'm thinking I may get another unit and give it another try. But before I do I'd like to know the best way to prep/tweak the thing straight out of the box so I can start from the best possible baseline. I'm pretty tech savy so I'm not afraid of rooting or removing bloatware but I also don't want to spend the whole time trying to install some esoteric custom Android build. Can anybody provide a short list of the best things to do to improve the over all phone performance and reliability?
Thanks in advance,
Joe
Root
Remove bloat
Install autostarts
Install LauncherPro (runs better than adw imo)
Follow the sticky for other random tips
Don't screw around with face book sync
Install a custom rom soon (i don't think it's prime time, yet)
which bloatware apps can i safely remove? i have read a lot of warnings about being careful what you remove. how do you do it - is it a simple matter of deleting a file, or is there more to it?
so can anybody recommmend which apps to remove, and how to do it w/out shooting myself in the foot?!
thanks!
joe
joecooler said:
so can anybody recommmend which apps to remove, and how to do it w/out shooting myself in the foot?!
thanks!
joe
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=726637&highlight=Stock
Or just flash Eugene's Vibrant4 that comes with tweaks and removed bloatware (find it in dev forum)
A good way to start is to read the STICKIED post. it has a lot of the information that you're looking for there
I would just use Root Explorer to remove the apps, or Titanium Backup does this also I think. This is all in the sticky.
I am new to Android and have been learning the ropes and tweaking slowly. I followed the recommendation to try ADW or Launcherpro and am glad I did. I happened to give Launcherpro a try first and have found its ability to customize the dock great. I would recommend giving it a shot if you are trying to customize the phone to your liking.
I've rooted my phones but haven't rooted my NST yet.
I'm interested in doing it mainly to get access to Dropbox and one of the Dropbox apps that let's you get feeds put onto your NST daily (I want to get my local paper there--which is available). I already have the paper portion working locally.
I have a few concerns:
1. What's the absolute latest/best way to root the NST? I'm on 1.1.
2. Will rooting suddenly drive my battery life down while the NST is sitting idle? I can go a week without touching it. I don't want to have to charge it every time I touch it.
3. Are the latest approaches problematic? I'm seeing threads about people having some pretty serious issues. Should I just wait at this point assuming there's serious thought to a near-bulletproof approach right around the corner?
All roots are pretty stable, there have been some methods that have had issues. TouchNooter for example had a major issue just yesterday because of a space in an Apps name. But it's been resolved and is stable.
Battery Life won't be affected so much depending on your wifi settings, if you keep wifi off you won't notice the difference between root and non-root. If you keep your wifi on though you may find yourself needing to recharge more often if you have your nook doing data updates too often.
Each version has it's advantages and disadvantages:
MinimalNooter - If you're willing to use CWM Minimal Nooter is available and is easily one of the most customizable of all the Nooters with different packages ranging from the most basic of roots "Minimal" to a full root package with Gapps XorZone's Mods etc.
Advantages
Clear Instructions, lots of information, can be a little confusing/overwhelming.
More Customizable with multiple packages
Lowest chance of FS corruption due to CWM use
No One Day Market Wait
No extra Apps to fix Market Search
Disadvantages
More steps to get to root through using CWM (Not just pop it in wait and done)
TouchNooter - TouchNooter was the original Nooter for Nook Simple Touch using the original Methods used on it's sibling the Nook Color. It installs a few mods and the basics to make it as customizable as a person needs you can drop apps in or remove them without having any real technical know how.
Advantages
Customizable with most extra apps in /data/app
Lower chance of FS corruption due to new TouchNooter methods
No extra Apps to fix Market Search
Clear Instructions that go step by step through each requirement
Disadvantages
One Day Wait to get Market Working
I would use TorimuNooter, because theCPU underclocking saves the most battery power.
I'd be very curious to know why Gabrial originally included TorimuNooter but then edited his post to remove mention of it.
[NST]MinimalTouch 1.1beta5 (+Index to manual rooting)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1346748
My favorite so far, easy install as long as you can follow directions.
Market works immediately, lightweight - only includes apps necessary for functionality and has had no problems since installing a few weeks ago.
Still waiting for XorZones NST launcher for my nook to be complete
Agrajag27 said:
I'd be very curious to know why Gabrial originally included TorimuNooter but then edited his post to remove mention of it.
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After the update to 0.5 in which TorimuNooter is no longer really a derivative of TouchNooter, not even bothering to change bootloader images or disk names or a number of other things unique to TouchNooter, I feel that it no longer deserves to be recognized as it's own "Nooter"
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After the update to 0.5 in which TorimuNooter is no longer really a derivative of TouchNooter, not even bothering to change bootloader images or disk names or a number of other things unique to TouchNooter, I feel that it no longer deserves to be recognized as it's own "Nooter"
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He's gonna freak about that...
*hides*
So do I take it that the "simple" act of rooting will drive my battery life down, possibly significantly?
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So do I take it that the "simple" act of rooting will drive my battery life down, possibly significantly?
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No.
Rooting just makes you gain root access, so you can modify your device.
It wont eat any battery just for rooting, but depends on what you do with your device, it will consume more or less battery.
On idle, except if some app is preventing your device to go to sleep, it should be the same.
If you read a lot of pdfs, play games, use web browsers, etc, the cpu will stay much more time active and there will be many more screen refreshes than when reading books.
Your battery will last less when doing more intensive tasks, the same when reading books, and the same when idle.
Just dont bloat it with trilions of apps you wont use, keep it minimal as more apps running, normally means more problems with battery.
If you wanted to lessen the cpu states, you could try SetCpu or follow this manual tuto http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20069231&postcount=4 (I preffer this type of tricks, instead of installing extra apps).
Don't forget to never leave the wifi on for long periods of time, as it dosn't let the device go to sleep.
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So do I take it that the "simple" act of rooting will drive my battery life down, possibly significantly?
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No.
If you have too many applications running the background such as email and twitter and weather updates and etc. Your battery life will be significantly less than if you have just email running. Your battery life is directly affected by what you put on your device and by which settings you use.
My nook is rooted and without underclocking my battery life hasn't changed that much, if I leave wifi off I can go weeks before I ever need to recharge, if I leave Wifi on I can go maybe a few days to a week. Which isn't abnormal or extreme battery difference from root to non-rooted.
It's very much like your android phone, when you rooted it the battery life didn't actually change, if you install new roms, or different kernels you risk a difference between non-root and root. However the only real difference between root and non root on this device is your ability to install apps on the device and do things that require root such as directly modify the filesystem, or use root ADB.
If you don't overload your device with bloat and lots of apps that want to run in the background you won't notice a difference. If you decide to bloat your device up with a bunch of excess apps that like to stick around in the background you risk the chance your battery life will suffer.
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He's gonna freak about that...
*hides*
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I'm a dev, I don't care if he freaks, it's my honest opinion. To me there's a fine line between derivatives and non derivatives, if he can't even bother to change the things that mark the image he used as TouchNooter than to me that is theft and nothing else, regardless of the changes or additions he makes to it.
I had read elsewhere that an app or two that got installed as a by-product of the rooting process was taking up CPU that wasn't there prior.
That was the concern. For me I'd think about adding passive e-mail support, another keyboard, possibly another reading app and would be likely to read more PDF's though now it appears I can get my newspaper (which is the primary goal) in epub format daily.
On WiFi, I haven't touched the default other than setting up access and it's been a good three weeks since I last charged and just re-charged it at 10%. I guess I could do better than that turning that off.
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I'm a dev, I don't care if he freaks, it's my honest opinion. To me there's a fine line between derivatives and non derivatives, if he can't even bother to change the things that mark the image he used as TouchNooter than to me that is theft and nothing else, regardless of the changes or additions he makes to it.
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I understand that entirely, but Torimu will still be upset about it. He is kind of going around advertising his as the best nooter, and having it "insulted" (in his mind) will probably set him off. You know what, I should probably just leave this whole thing alone... :/
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I had read elsewhere that an app or two that got installed as a by-product of the rooting process was taking up CPU that wasn't there prior.
That was the concern. For me I'd think about adding passive e-mail support, another keyboard, possibly another reading app and would be likely to read more PDF's though now it appears I can get my newspaper (which is the primary goal) in epub format daily.
On WiFi, I haven't touched the default other than setting up access and it's been a good three weeks since I last charged and just re-charged it at 10%. I guess I could do better than that turning that off.
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Gapps does get added in with some other apps to make it more usable. Gmail runs in the background but with the right settings it isn't an issue. The launcher I believe could also run in the background with some settings (I believe there's an option in ADW so it doesn't close completely) but I pretty much find battery life between root and non root is pretty much negligible.
I forgot about the disk names...
But I will change that. I'm just trying to improve upon others work.
Thanks for your opinion Gabreil......
I'll try to stop advertising.
Torimu.Joji said:
I forgot about the disk names...
But I will change that. I'm just trying to improve upon others work.
Thanks for your opinion Gabreil......
I'll try to stop advertising.
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It's more than just disk names there were other changes I made, big changes that would be rather noticeable if you bothered to test your work. Like for example the start up image which was left completely unchanged in both your most recent updates.
@Gabrial and the other nooters
While you're on the subject of images I just want to take the opportunity to emphasize the importance of you guys keeping your images within the size of the original NST boot partition.
Reason is, as said before, people regularly do the mistake of writing your image directly to the NST instead of writing it to the SD card.
Just this week I've had four cases where people have written "garbage" data outside the boundaries of the boot partition, and as you (should) know, the next one is the tiny /rom partition with the really important stuff.
Thank you
-Roger
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@Gabrial and the other nooters
While you're on the subject of images I just want to take the opportunity to emphasize the importance of you guys keeping your images within the size of the original NST boot partition.
Reason is, as said before, people regularly do the mistake of writing your image directly to the NST instead of writing it to the SD card.
Just this week I've had four cases where people have written "garbage" data outside the boundaries of the boot partition, and as you (should) know, the next one is the tiny /rom partition with the really important stuff.
Thank you
-Roger
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I often keep this in mind. It's even addressed as one of my "Before you Begin" pieces. The problem is there's only so much you can do before it just falls to the user to pay attention and not screw up their device. When "You must have an external microSDCard reader or this will not work. Do NOT use the Nook Simple Touch." is apart of the "Before you Begin" and a user ignores that, then it's unfortunately their fault if or when they screw up their device by not following directions.
I've always limited my images to 128 because it's big enough for people to add what they want or to expand Nooter as needed. I'll actually be switching over to the CWM method which would be safer but you're stuck with the same issues with CWM that you will see with using TouchNooter's current image based method and that is people not following instructions and screwing up their devices.
While limiting images and such to 70MB (I think that's right) would be ideal the issue is the majority of that space is already filled, meaning you're very much limiting what you can do with an "automatic" method.
Mind you I've heard of methods like noogie which is the exact size if I remember for the boot partition completely destroy a device because someone wasn't following the proper directions. So the issue isn't the size of the image but how the user uses them.
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Mind you I've heard of methods like noogie which is the exact size if I remember for the boot partition completely destroy a device because someone wasn't following the proper directions. So the issue isn't the size of the image but how the user uses them.
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True, but my experience is, and I get around three to four cases every week, is that they write it to the root device which means that 76MB (or 155648 sectors to be exact) is ok.
Beyond that you go into the next partition and the data there is only a couple of hundred kilobytes.
So you see, just 300KB beyond the size of /boot is enough to completely brick a NST forever :/
Yes, there's a backup zip in p3 (factory) but it's usually fragmented and I have only once succeeded in recovering it..
Let me end with a 2012 version of a famous (mis)quote:
"155648 sectors ought to be enough for anybody"
-Roger
ros87 said:
Let me end with a 2012 version of a famous (mis)quote:
"155648 sectors ought to be enough for anybody"
-Roger
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I wish that were true, lol, but considering how much information we want to put on the device it's hard. Perhaps if CWM could grab zip files off of the internal media storage you could toss CWM on 155648 sectors then keep all update zips, etc on the internal storage partition
So i just squires an NST and already have a Fire and Sensation for most of my needs, i really only want to use this as a reader, but the restrictions blow. i really only care about fixing this partition silliness. Which is the best way for just getting that space available.
what about the German language
very very nice ROM
humm.. I think you'll have no choice of using Elelinux rom to have multi-language support like I had to do for French due to it's rom based Decked_X who is just available in English..
I have been using this ROM for a little while now and find it to be both fast and stable. A really great job by the developer 1ceb0x, for which I would like to express my thanks.
One small issue I have yet to sort out and that is one of awful keyboard lag. I use Handcent SMS for messaging and am wondering if anyone else is using this app and suffering the same problem? I haven't worked out if it is just this app, or a combination of this app and the installed keyboard yet, but if anyone else has had a similar experience that they have managed to resolve, or can suggest tweaks to try I would be grateful to hear. I really would like to stick with Handcent, if possible.
For anyone who has not tried this ROM, I would recommend they do; it really is a great everyday ROM.
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I have been using this ROM for a little while now and find it to be both fast and stable. A really great job by the developer 1ceb0x, for which I would like to express my thanks.
One small issue I have yet to sort out and that is one of awful keyboard lag. I use Handcent SMS for messaging and am wondering if anyone else is using this app and suffering the same problem? I haven't worked out if it is just this app, or a combination of this app and the installed keyboard yet, but if anyone else has had a similar experience that they have managed to resolve, or can suggest tweaks to try I would be grateful to hear. I really would like to stick with Handcent, if possible.
For anyone who has not tried this ROM, I would recommend they do; it really is a great everyday ROM.
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As far as I know, the keyboard lag should be gone in the latest version which is 3.5. However, it was only tested using stock keyboard and stock mms app. If you are having low ram, this could be your problem (or an app is keeping your cpu at 100%) - though the first issue should not occur because the kernel is tweaked to kill apps when mem. is lower than 60 - so basically you will always have 40-50 mb free every time.
Thank you guys for your support and for using my rom, it is really a great pleasure to see how many users have it as a daily driver. Thanks again!
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Thank you guys for your support and for using my rom, it is really a great pleasure to see how many users have it as a daily driver. Thanks again!
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it is a very very great Rom:laugh:
1ceb0x
The ROM is still used in German?
Tuvok36 said:
it is a very very great Rom:laugh:
1ceb0x
The ROM is still used in German?
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It has only keyboard dictionaries including german but no system language, sorry!
Sent from my HTC One V using xda app-developers app
I was just about to install this ROM, but I don't need German
I am writing mainly in response to a post by buba_shrimp in the development forum (I do not have sufficient privileges to post there), but also for my own benefit, as I am seeking assistance for the same issue.
In the early days of having my Hero (stock rom) I found GPS to work flawlessly, up until passing the installation of any google maps release past 5.5.0, when bad things started to happen. I have stayed at this release ever since.
Just prior becoming Shpongled, GPS became a nightmare; tried all sorts of stuff, but nothing seemed to help. I came to the conclusion that the hardware was failing and left it as that. That was until the day that I maintained the gps config file from US to UK/European server settings and lo and behold not only did the phone lock my position lightning fast, but all the other problems vanished too.
On moving to this rom, the first thing I did was implementing my replacement gps.conf and continued to get excellent gps performance – most of the time.
The phone now seems to operate in one of two modes; it either gets a good lock in seconds and performs flawlessly, or the gps connection circle spins for and age followed usually by the phone rebooting itself (I think just as it seems to locate its position, though I’m not quite sure just).
I have posted earlier that I am getting bad keyboard lag too, but now realise that this is a hit and miss affair also, as I only get this some of the time.
Anyone have any idea as to how I can debug the phone when it is experiencing these issues, e.g. any free logging tools or other such monitoring software that may help? Or, suggestions as to things I might try? Was glad to see buba_shrimp was suffering a similar problem – not in a gloating way, in a problem-shared-is-a-problem-halved kinda way.
Regards
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I am writing mainly in response to a post by buba_shrimp in the development forum (I do not have sufficient privileges to post there), but also for my own benefit, as I am seeking assistance for the same issue.
In the early days of having my Hero (stock rom) I found GPS to work flawlessly, up until passing the installation of any google maps release past 5.5.0, when bad things started to happen. I have stayed at this release ever since.
Just prior becoming Shpongled, GPS became a nightmare; tried all sorts of stuff, but nothing seemed to help. I came to the conclusion that the hardware was failing and left it as that. That was until the day that I maintained the gps config file from US to UK/European server settings and lo and behold not only did the phone lock my position lightning fast, but all the other problems vanished too.
On moving to this rom, the first thing I did was implementing my replacement gps.conf and continued to get excellent gps performance – most of the time.
The phone now seems to operate in one of two modes; it either gets a good lock in seconds and performs flawlessly, or the gps connection circle spins for and age followed usually by the phone rebooting itself (I think just as it seems to locate its position, though I’m not quite sure just).
I have posted earlier that I am getting bad keyboard lag too, but now realise that this is a hit and miss affair also, as I only get this some of the time.
Anyone have any idea as to how I can debug the phone when it is experiencing these issues, e.g. any free logging tools or other such monitoring software that may help? Or, suggestions as to things I might try? Was glad to see buba_shrimp was suffering a similar problem – not in a gloating way, in a problem-shared-is-a-problem-halved kinda way.
Regards
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Get ADB, plug your phone into USB, enable USB Debugging on your phone, type adb logcat into your PC's command line and you have debug
kemoba said:
Get ADB, plug your phone into USB, enable USB Debugging on your phone, type adb logcat into your PC's command line and you have debug
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I know how to do this, I just don't have the experience to know what I should be looking for.
Ideally I was really hoping for, I guess, is that someone else has suffered these same issues and has a solution.
My question about usefull tools was along the lines of some sort of app that records resource usage over time, to allow for analysis of conflicts, or similar. Anything like this exist? Or is there a better way? The adb logcat is a little too low-level for me I think, unless someone can help me with pointers as to what I should be looking for.
Thanks folks.
Very nice rom, very fast, but .. (sorry for lang)
every app or game in my Hero lags in fews minutes with error " [Application] is not responsive " .. only thing what i can do is tap " Force close " button .. so each game is not playable (gameboid mainly), or i cant read comics, or whatever else ^^ any solutions?
thanks for help guys
Nice and fast ROM
Thanks
it is a great expense to import the German language in the ROM?
I would like to have it in German.
I'm not a developer, I'm just a user
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it is a great expense to import the German language in the ROM?
I would like to have it in German.
I'm not a developer, I'm just a user
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It would need to be build from source to get german language in it. So yes, it is a great expense since it needs:
a powerful computer
time
space
i'm so sorry for not being able to provide you guys this rom in other languages. i know i have lost some of you because of this issue but i cannot do anything for it. i can build it from source in a way or the other but it will loose the great speed of decked_x base rom.
thank you for using it thought.
Very nice from, I have the stop responding error too but works clicking wait lets me continue without losing anything.
Sent from my Hero using xda app-developers app
Do Shpongle ROM need swap partition on SD card??
Just a little question: what kind of partition do Shpongle ver 3.7 need on SD card??
I mean: is it necessary to have a little swap partition (60-120MB) ?
PS: version 3.7 is really strong, but I'm waiting for a next and better release
Dont use swap partitions...
kemoba said:
Dont use swap partitions...
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In the last release of Elelinux it is required a swap partition greater than 60 MB and an additional Ext4 partition (maybe for app2SD..??).
I know that Shpongle ROM is not Elelinux (there are differences, I suppose), but.. is there any reason for not to installing swap partition or it's just your personal experience??
Thanks..
It's just slower on every rom, based on user and dev opinions...
How can cyanogenmod and cronos have multilanguage support but not Shpongle?
Have they written the rom in every single language?
Modifications for stock 4.4.2
drakeheart77 said:
Modifications for stock 4.4.2
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I have found that custom ROMS/Kernels and much else for this phone to be sorely lacking. This is by no means an attack on my respected dev peers, simply an observation.
Throughout the woes of our limited forums I see a trend in the gripes about this little wonder.
I am offering my personal settings & preferences that MAY unleash what we can do here.
FIRST THINGS FIRST- Just forget needing buggy builds of TWRP for KK+ rom flashing. There's not much to flash, and TWRP 2.7.1.0 forced me to dl the KK stock firmware & start from square zero.
*NOTE FOR REASONS STILL UNKNOWN EVERY SINGLE PARTITION WOULD RESTORE- EXCEPT THE SYSTEM.
Enough said.
I am using CWM 6.0.2 for stability reasons, and have no issues.
Now I will begin the good stuff.
After my mods/tweaks etc, I am running about 97 apps with 3.9GB internal memory remaining, can go about 11hrs without needing to charge, give or take, and can multitask seemlessly with around 410mb free RAM at stationary.
Obviously, one needs to utilise the KK SD card fix. After this, begin:
Install /system/app/mover from Play Store & BE CAREFUL!!
I proceeded to begin moving bloatware preinstalled apps from being system apps to User apps, freeing essential system rom space & allowing for safe uninstall and transfer to ext sd.
Now on to build.prop.
Unleash what we can do here.
Here is the link to my build.prop zip. Please note all mods & adds specifically, as they are unique to the likings of this phone.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-a-fg6mIteHakZfYXk1eklla3M/edit?usp=docslist_api
Next, I HIGHLY suggest the Override DNS for KitKat. Only one that works for 4.4 & above. Set to Google, which is also feasable in bud.prop, but my experience has been iffy with that, and this app flushes DNS cache w/o reboot and sets DNS KitKat specific.
GPS- FasterGPS.
Here is the link to the Advanced Settings data after basic configuration. The results speak for themselves.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-a-fg6mIteHellndldvUG5Eb1k/edit?usp=docslist_api
Dl and rename to .txt to view.
I use RAM Manager Pro for memcleaning & management.
Use default option, the select custom afterwards to fine tune settings to preference.
If ANYONE needs recovery files for any soft brick needs AND has CWM, please PM me & I will upload mine.
Hope this gives some insight on how to begin using this guy properly.
Open forum. Ask/request away, add to it please!
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RAM Manager Pro Custom settings that I use:
NOTE: Notice custom launcher in screenshots- by using /system/app/mover to convert Touchwiz to user, I freed up substantial rom space, mem, and performance. I use Apex Pro.
App Tools
Link to some utilities
Dl, unzip, rest is easy to figure out.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-a-fg6mIteHeXowU1hTakRrZTA/edit?usp=docslist_api
I've begun modding my stock sgh t399 and I was wondering if u could talk with me a lil. I've seen massive potential over cost n this phone. Mainly don't understand build prop yet. Don't wanna brick it
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RAM Manager Pro Custom settings that I use:
NOTE: Notice custom launcher in screenshots- by using /system/app/mover to convert Touchwiz to user, I freed up substantial rom space, mem, and performance. I use Apex Pro.
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You guys are in luck. .. the gods had pity and sent someone to steal my galaxy s3 and 5 and Tablet 7.0... so, I ended up with this phone. . But there's little to no development, especially for the metro variant. .. sooo... I'm doing a little work. ... look up .. team rejects.... you'll understand soon. ..good things coming. .
timmetal6669 said:
You guys are in luck. .. the gods had pity and sent someone to steal my galaxy s3 and 5 and Tablet 7.0... so, I ended up with this phone. . But there's little to no development, especially for the metro variant. .. sooo... I'm doing a little work. ... look up .. team rejects.... you'll understand soon. ..good things coming. .
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Unjustified Dev is working on CM12 for this phone, but he's pretty much the only one. Whether you team up with him or you work independently, it'll certainly be good to have more people working on this phone. Bummer you had to lose your other devices though.
A different route
Hey all, thanx for the attention & activity in getting this thread moving.
I readily & always tell all I am not a Dev, I assist true devs here & there to work towards
stables, patches, fixing kernels, and so on.
That's out of the way, now on to the progress.
I have been using an AOSP deodexed stock 4.4.2 ROM, and praises to the efforts of
the community member, and much to my discredit I can't readily recall who this person
is to post a link to that thread, as is proper. oh well.
While the AOSP stock build is a big showing of progress, I say with a heavy heart that
it is very, very buggy.
What the positive effort was: It is debloated to such a level that upon a fresh install,
the user still has 4.2GB Internal Storage.
This, I've found, is the single most common misdirected goal and focus of efforts with
throw-away-yet-kinda-quality nocontract phone.
After I installed TB Premium, I discovered that the system ROM had around 182Mb available.
I now come to reports.
Every Stock 4.4.2 system app was still there, however the writer replaced a few (ie Camera
with Google Camera, for one) that completely eat up what precious limited RAM/
ROM performance we do have.
The build.prop showed only a few mods/edits, less than five.
The dalvik.vm.heapsize was 128m, heapstart was 8m, and growth limit 256mb.
That was same as stock. Speaking only for me, that was the biggest oversight that
tainted almost all efforts. Those sizes are entirely TOO big for this phone's britches.
If I seem like I just will not stfu, I can't blame you.
I feel I have to be as thorough as possible out of respect for my colleagues.
Now, since I am using Chrome from my device for all of this, you all will find up look oads
and images following this reply, fyi.
My first inspection was to install SetCPU, in small hopes that a customized kernel
had magically came. I am BEGGING for more governors and I/O schedulers, our less-than-
primitive 5/3 is downright insulting.
Kernel supports absolutely no tweaks, VM swap, O/C or min freq. U/C.
My goal is to take the only alternative given on 4.4.2 at all, and make lemonade.
System/app mover from Play Store.
There are countless threads on what is & isn't safe, my mods on that are my prefs.
In the end, I was able to free ROM up to just over 406MB. I can't begin to describe
the difference.
On to build.prop
To compliment my new device I just got, I set dalvik.vm sizes to a less audacious level.
I chose the more conservative of 8m, 64m, 128m. *Note any less on any 3 values, your FCs
will never cease.
Next, I made a few other edits I've favored on several devices, will upload my .txt.
Use of SD Fix for KitKat, along with Force2SD paid, I have 104 apps, many being very large
games, as well as the evil Chrome and FB storage rapists, all Google offenders at that.
I have a smug 4.32 GB Internal Storage available, saving me much embarassment by killing all my ROM wins.
AdAway 2.9 for KitKat, Override DNS for Root Users, the ONLY DNS mod that works on
KitKat, FasterGPS, Seeder 2.0, Root Explorer paid, TB Pro, NG Cache Cleaner, SignalGuardPro
and SD Booster make up my arsenal.
Touchwiz & Trebuchet are gone, I use Nova Launcher Premium.
Restoring TB app backups from external SD put my phone into bootloop.
I am clueless as to any reason why.
Using ANY root sysApp delete to debloat will also softbrick.
System/App Mover seems to be the only way. I speak from a few experiences and Nandroid
system part. restores.
I COMPLETELY CONDEMN MY PRIOR CONVICTION TO CWM.
I completely f*"$ed that up.
TWRP 2.8.0
NOTHING ELSE.
I even attempted a rash Aroma Installer to compensate for MusicFX being gone.
Ac!D Sound Mod.
Worked. And Improved.
RAM Manager Pro is gone too. I've found my build.prop edits are just right.
Any app tweak mucks it up.
Battery Callibrate Root, free on Store. Another win on battery life.
This is the most I can really do now.
Without a custom kernel, we'll be left behind like nearly all Prepaids, non flagships.
That's MY report, I beg for input/feedback/comments/criticism/ridicule, whatever.
Next Replies will be build.prop.txt, gps.conf, screenshots.
Follow up links scrnshots
My modded gps.conf, using FasterGPS
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-a-fg6mIteHellndldvUG5Eb1k/edit?usp=docslist_api
My build.prop txt
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-a-fg6mIteHWEd1U2pFNUJ5emc/edit?usp=docslist_api
some srcnshots are attached as well.
Plz PM or Reply if I can provide anything else.
DISREGARD BUILD.PROP UPLOAD FROM PREVIOUS.
I missed some critical errors & edits that will negatively impact the phones performance and memory allocation, dang my bad all!
I've been at this phone non stop it seems since my previous post. Need to be less trigger-happy with reporting progress smh.
I'm uploading what I promise is my finished build.prop, for real this time.
Since I am sticking with this stock AOSP build, I was able to successfully flash an Aroma recovery installer mod, the Ac!d Sound Engine.
I should note that the only EQ offered that will work is Nooxide. Awesome Beats EQ is not designed for 4.4 platform.
The Ac!d enhancement and Dolby Mod both have made positive enhancements.
The Play Store that is built in to the .zip install MUST be replaced. Initially the writer included that Play Store will FC upon install, but clearing cache/data in app manager would fix, and was correct.
I can't assume that I'm the only one who has caught this, but I am reposting in writer's thread that Play Store will update to 5.4 build, and it becomes all but unusable.
Any Play Store update beyond 5.2... has never functioned properly for me, it seems Google is making a path for Lollipop migration, and the Play Store versions 5.3 and above are, I believe, geared for 5.0 platform, but still giving it to 4.4 users.
I downloaded a Play Store 5.2 apk from a third party site, saved to my external.
What I now believe is the present solution to this situation is this;
Get 5.2.** apk, keep it on External, or readily available.
Get System/app mover
Root Explorer
After flashing, use System/app mover, and convert Play Store from system to user app.
Reboot. Uninstall Play Store as regular user app. Install 5.2.** apk. open System/app mover & convert Play Store to system app. Hit "cancel" on reboot prompt in app. Go to app manager, Google Play Services, clear cache and ALL data under "Manage Storage". Then reboot.
This has fixed, for good, my issues.
As stated before, use System/app mover at your own discretion and what is your preference, just make a backup first and understand what you are doing.
I am satisfied with what I've worked out, and do not have any other work to do that I can see.
Thanks all.
Next reply is RIGHT build.prop
apologies again.
Drakeheart77
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-a-fg6mIteHU081Uko0MU9ENms/edit?usp=docslist_api
Update- have recently corrected setting dalvik heapsize and limit to lower settings, causes many MANY problems, fc's etc.
Set to 8m, 64m, 256m.
Absolutely primed.
Further system mods gave me 433Mb free ROM space, and around 4.1Gb internal storage free.
Happy thus far.
If anyone is keeping up on CM12 build, share to this forum please.
I wish to aid the dev in any way possible.
drakeheart77 said:
Update- have recently corrected setting dalvik heapsize and limit to lower settings, causes many MANY problems, fc's etc.
Set to 8m, 64m, 256m.
Absolutely primed.
Further system mods gave me 433Mb free ROM space, and around 4.1Gb internal storage free.
Happy thus far.
If anyone is keeping up on CM12 build, share to this forum please.
I wish to aid the dev in any way possible.
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I am using the CM12 build and its pretty good. If you havent tried it yourself you should its pretty stable. I do like to see that you are working on the stock rom though. I like that one too just too much bloatware and not enough free space, so this is good!
I've tried keeping tabs on that here & there, can't seem to find dl link for latest/stable build. I've given up on this stock ASOP, just flashed back to stock 4.4.2. Added all those mods I've been posting, runs 110% better.
Would you be so kind as to point me the right way to dl this CM12? I'm looking again, but it would help a lot lol.
Ty for your participation.
drakeheart77 said:
I've tried keeping tabs on that here & there, can't seem to find dl link for latest/stable build. I've given up on this stock ASOP, just flashed back to stock 4.4.2. Added all those mods I've been posting, runs 110% better.
Would you be so kind as to point me the right way to dl this CM12? I'm looking again, but it would help a lot lol.
Ty for your participation.
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Here's a link to the cm12 development thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/dev-cyanogenmod-porting-t2918432
And here's the link to unjustified dev's samsung galaxy light folder that has the latest cm12 build http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/dev-cyanogenmod-porting-t2918432
Thanks
Ty I actually found it shortly after I requested that from you.
Been running it since then, a LOT of trial-and-error runs, but I've
managed to get it running just right for me, almost...
Fixed constant soft reboots by setting location to device only
Have no issues at all with phone calls, only the persistent
proximity during a call, I must position my phone a certain way,
my cheek kept touching the speaker and mute icons.
Any advice on that is welcome, I've tried the build.prop edit:
ro.lge.proximity. delay=25
mot.proximity.delay=25
without much luck lol.
And, the MMS issue. I'm on MetroPCS, so I have set the default
APN accordingly.
After researching CM Mod forums & searches, the only
solution anyone has ever provided is to use third-party SMS,
Textra was the specific example.
It seems to be arbitrary, I've had continuous successful deliveries,
then shortly after they fail every time..rebooting has AND has
not fixed this...too random of success/failures to pinpoint myself,
but I by no means am a master at this ☺.
Any help or ideas are most welcome!
Did you clean install? I set my APN to metro fast or whatever its called and have had no problems with texting. The only issues I have other than the proximity that you mentioned, is that videos don't always play. Plus the newest Netflix doesn't work and neither does play TV and movies. Both force close when I try to open
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Yeah when I had cm12 installed I had no problems with mms after changing the apn to metropcs lte or whatever it's called.
Well, I've since returned to Stock KitKat w/ root & modifications. The Cm12 was nifty at first, but in the end I desire functionality over custom.
Too many apps/features that I want & use often just didn't work unfortunately. Oh well, I'm still willing to pitch in & help out devs!
Maybe you could help develop the cm12 rom. Unjust lent his galaxy light out, and idk if he got it back yet
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Hi,
My warranty is running out so I'm on the fence: look for a new phone or go the rooting and custom ROM path and continue using Note 4.
So as we have now MM and some updated apps, air command and other stuff is updated.. so what additional benefits custom ROM could give?
Speed? I do some gaming and can't complain that Note 4 is slow. It's really fast.
Disable more apps? That would be a benefit coz now not all apps can be disabled.
Remove quick connect buttons?
What else am I missing?
Launcher tweaks? But we use Nova. You don't need root for Nova
What else?
Thanks!!!
I'm using stock MM 6.0.1 (DPB1) and it's great. Still a fantastic phone for 2016 and really fast. I only root for Titanium Backup to freeze all the crap and to boost the headphone output level.
Only wish is for universal DPI adjustment as I can't be arsed messing about with xposed framework and the like but it's not a biggie.
You can root without installing a custom ROM and it takes literally 2 minutes.
What exactly do you freeze which cannot be disabled in Application Manager? And what benefits those freezed app give?
Will Greenify give any noticable battery life? As I understood Greenify needs root as well.
Here's a list of my disabled apps.
https://imgur.com/a/X0Zjv
What you freezed with tibackup?
For me the main reason for rooting is to be able to get the huge games I have downloaded over the years to all fit onto my ext SD card. I also enjoy the ability to use apps like Cerberus,, Greenify and SD Maid.... etc. to their absolute full potential.
I root phones because I want things the way I want them. For example I don't like the quick connect logos when I lower the screen to see any alerts. I also don't like how the phone warns me that the volume is getting loud. As if I don't know how.loud the phone is. Little thing like that drive me crazy. I root the phone so I can deal with those little announces like that.
If you have to ask whether its worth rooting or not, then I am not sure you are in the right place man. Said it plenty times before, saying it again, I don't really see the point of using Android without rooting, unless you need that KNOX thingy. Why? I can't even start to mention. Take AdAway for example, and that's the first step only of a journey of countless steps.
Custom ROMs on the other hand? If you see a really good dev, then yes, like Arya, or Omega etc., otherwise no comments.
ithehappy said:
If you have to ask whether its worth rooting or not, then I am not sure you are in the right place man. Said it plenty times before, saying it again, I don't really see the point of using Android without rooting, unless you need that KNOX thingy.
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So if one isn't rooting, then one might as well use...what, an iOS device? That doesn't make sense to me. There are plenty of compelling reasons to use Android over alternate mobile OS'es, even if one is using unrooted Android. Even if one is using unrooted, unmodified, BAD skinned Android.
What exactly do you freeze which cannot be disabled in Application Manager? And what benefits those freezed app give?
I have 96 apps frozen. Mostly pre-installed crap and many system apps including all the wireless/remote/sharing stuff I don't need. You need to choose what's important to you but it makes a massive difference to battery life.
If you don't know what is rooting for, you should forget about it.
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I know what rooting is and I've used it in my previous phones (Nexus mainly) for many many things.
Why? Because Nexus didn't have all the features I needed.
And now Note 4 has battery optimization feature (so no need for Greenify), all those notification buttons, quick buttons, side buttons you name it (no custom rom is needed), basic backup function works to Samsung cloud (it partially covers tibackup) etc etc.
Well.. AdAway is a different thing.