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[Rumour] No Nougat (7.0/7.1) update for g4 AND V10

Korean news; A Korean consumers' group criticized a recent LG's decision of abandoning Nougat update for G4 and V10. LG's reason being is; Because of the aging device's stability and reliability, LG decided not to offer Android 7.0/7.1 update.
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luiferulz said:
Korean news; A Korean consumers' group criticized a recent LG's decision of abandoning Nougat update for G4 and V10. LG's reason being is; Because of the aging device's stability and reliability, LG decided not to offer Android 7.0/7.1 update.
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That isn't official. Official is from LG directly.

This is so far away from official like seeing flying pigs.. Could be true or not.
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Just think about it. Do you really think that LG will say officaly: "NO NOUGAT UPDATE FOR OUR 1.5 YEARS OLD PHONE". It would be a really good advertisement for them! Lets be critical. It's the same like if they said: Buy our current flagship - G6 and you will get terrible support, bad build quality, bootloop problem after a year, you will loose all your date when we change phones motherboard, you will wait many days and finally you will probably stuck on 7.1.1 forever. It's almost on 100% that LG G4 won't get Nougat update. All what they need is to sell new models. That is what keeps them alive. Building a new system for almost 2 years old phone is nonsense, it is, it cost money. We need to earn money, not spend money. If you want Nougat, buy LG G5 or get G6. Thats it. But many people will buy from another phone manofacturer next time after this. LG is digging it's own grave for a long time.

We barely started March dude... If you had any Asus you'd see what's slow. Just wait and if they don't deliver too bad. The phone is not that bad as it is since it's a terrible chip

Wow LG seems like they really don't like the G4 considering they are leaving it on the same Android version as it's predecessor G3. I bought this phone as a budget alternative to buying the galaxy A5 2016 .... At least the LG G4 has good custom ROM support so I'll just install lineage os if LG really decides to ditch this phone. But I'm still disappointed to see this phone only get one update in its lifetime.
Edit : *only one major update
Also: even comparing LG to other companies like Sony... Their whole z5 series including z5, premium and compact just got the 7.0 update

luiferulz said:
Korean news; A Korean consumers' group criticized a recent LG's decision of abandoning Nougat update for G4 and V10. LG's reason being is; Because of the aging device's stability and reliability, LG decided not to offer Android 7.0/7.1 update.
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Until it's not from official LG sources, readable on their homepage or blog, i would say it's not official. It's just guessing...

Official??? you are crazy
https://support.t-mobile.com/community/phones-tablets-devices/software-updates#tmoSUPDocTitle
LG V10 is already confirmed by T-mobile.
About the LG G4, no official info ... do not believe in support that often does not have communication with the development team

braulio_holtz said:
Official??? you are crazy
https://support.t-mobile.com/community/phones-tablets-devices/software-updates#tmoSUPDocTitle
LG V10 is already confirmed by T-mobile.
About the LG G4, no official info ... do not believe in support that often does not have communication with the development team
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So you're going to trust a carrier over the manufacturer?
The official line seems to be that the Nougat update for the G4 and V10 was abandoned as it wasn't stable enough for release. If you choose to believe any other source then I'm afraid you're set to be disappointed.
It's time to move on.

i imagine this on a balance.. one side how much they would spent on 7.0 development vs the other people moving away from LG.
what a re you toughts do they loose more money at developing a g4 that should be able to handle 7.0 asn the nexus 5x has nougat.
or all the people that will get angry and dissapointed. as we still in the 2 year update cycle.??

Let's make dozens of topics with the same posts. It is not over until the fat lady sings. Let's suffocate this topic, LG deserves it. Wait, only users that actually look for useful information will find it difficult with all these topics. Just my 2 (euro) cents.

tmihai20 said:
Let's make dozens of topics with the same posts. It is not over until the fat lady sings. Let's suffocate this topic, LG deserves it. Wait, only users that actually look for useful information will find it difficult with all these topics. Just my 2 (euro) cents.
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Agree

F u c k i n g b a s t a r d s !

I`m so sick of LG`s ****:
My LG G2 display not responding so I got LG G4 instead of buying a new display for LG G2
My LG G4 problems:
1. the BOOTLOOP
2. display burn in (ghosting)
3. battery after 10% phone dies
4. mobile data on and no signal = phone goes crazy touches all over the screen
5. the plastic back falls
6. and now no update for Nougat? wtf. LG?
The LG G6? I love it but after my history whit LG i`m so so so disappointed
sorry for the unorthodox words....

I must say I don't care much about 7.0/7.1. The g4 is working perfectly for me. What killer features would 7 bring? The upgrade to 6 did not bring many noticable improvements imho.

mulperi said:
I must say I don't care much about 7.0/7.1. The g4 is working perfectly for me. What killer features would 7 bring? The upgrade to 6 did not bring many noticable improvements imho.
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if 7.0 brings :
better battery life time
option to lower the resolution
magic focus
better ui
lower dpi
better cpu management to turn of the cores in idle
etc...

neobdium said:
if 7.0 brings :
better battery life time
option to lower the resolution
magic focus
better ui
lower dpi
better cpu management to turn of the cores in idle
etc...
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The most important thing is improved Doze mode and Vulkan support.

heroutm said:
The most important thing is improved Doze mode and Vulkan support.
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its not our fault they f*** with bootloops. and it still in update cycle. and lame excuse about not beign optimized.. my nuts.

Shall we make a petition??? I dont know will it work or not.
The same thing also happened with my previous phone Xperia SP where they promised kitkat update but later abandoned it. So we (Xperia SP members) filled a petition but unfortunately I didnt change anything.

it looks like a prank to me. Of course you will all bite.
a new xda member just made his 1st post and its about lg never update to nougat ? lmao....
i could do the same anytime just as a prank. pranks exist because people that like pranks exist.
i had too much fun reading it
+1 to the guy that had the idea !

7.1 Update?

Before the G6 launched I read a review that said something to the effect LG was trying to get the device out with 7.1. Well that didn't happen but there's been silence since. Anyone have info on LG releasing a 7.1 update? I know LG doesn't have the best update track record, hopefully it isn't months from now.

mr mystery said:
Before the G6 launched I read a review that said something to the effect LG was trying to get the device out with 7.1. Well that didn't happen but there's been silence since. Anyone have info on LG releasing a 7.1 update? I know LG doesn't have the best update track record, hopefully it isn't months from now.
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No 7.1 in the G6 future, LG never update to this "minor" release, only security patch updates with enhancements, like in previous LG smartphones

7.1 is more than a minor update though. It fixes the bad standby drain that's present in 7.0. If they don't update to 7.1 I'll likely dump LG if this is indeed how they do things. Thanks for the reply

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7.1 is more than a minor update though. It fixes the bad standby drain that's present in 7.0. If they don't update to 7.1 I'll likely dump LG if this is indeed how they do things. Thanks for the reply
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Then jump immediately, they won't update to 7.1, they'll jump directly to Android O.

I don't think thats true. LG said they're gonna update to 7.1 to pre-production reviewers so they're probably gonna do it.

WstrKuNoužč said:
I don't think thats true. LG said they're gonna update to 7.1 to pre-production reviewers so they're probably gonna do it.
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Where you read that? Never heard about this on any reviewer that I follow.

Killua96 said:
Where you read that? Never heard about this on any reviewer that I follow.
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Heard at least cpl of reviewers say it. Don't remember who tho. I've watched a lot of G6 reviews but only read a cpl.
Either way, if they aren't pushing 7.1 they'll probably hurry up with Android O, as you said. They're usually one of the first ones to update their eligible phones to new Android and Android O is supposedly really close (fall release).

Rumor has it the g5, V20 and now I assume G6 are jumping from 7.0 to 7.1.2. That only recently was released to pixel/nexus phones.

Barsky said:
Rumor has it the g5, V20 and now I assume G6 are jumping from 7.0 to 7.1.2. That only recently was released to pixel/nexus phones.
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Any source to this?

Killua96 said:
Then jump immediately, they won't update to 7.1, they'll jump directly to Android O.
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Absolutely not. Android O Will be released too late for LG to keep this phone without the update. Android O Will probably be shipped on the next "V" device and the G6 will only see it next year.
My money is on 7.1 being the only "big" update we see this year
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le0.br4zuc4 said:
Absolutely not. Android O Will be released too late for LG to keep this phone without the update. Android O Will probably be shipped on the next "V" device and the G6 will only see it next year.
My money is on 7.1 being the only "big" update we see this year
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Lol have you ever followed the LG scene? Seems not.
As I already told LG never updates to this minor release, it is also one of the fastest OEM to release the major versions of android, G5 received Nougat officially on November.
Again, this is based on the past of LG, which are facts, not on rumors without source.

Killua96 said:
Any source to this?
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Just the various android blogs in passing. This is why I labelled it "Rumor" No need to get so pissy about it. It's not life and death.
Have a nice Sunday.

Barsky said:
Just the various android blogs in passing. This is why I labelled it "Rumor" No need to get so pissy about it. It's not life and death.
Have a nice Sunday.
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Not getting pissy here, I'm just trying to share my knowledge and my experience on LGs, as you said rumors are rumors, will see in the next months it some of those rumors is true.
Have a nice Sunday you too

Killua96 said:
Not getting pissy here, I'm just trying to share my knowledge and my experience on LGs, as you said rumors are rumors, will see in the next months it some of those rumors is true.
Have a nice Sunday you too
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Either way, an update to either will be nice and the sooner the better. But, to be honest, I am more concerned with gaining root/twrp. Being on a tmo model that is bootloader-unlockable out of the box, we usually get it sooner than later...at least on my prevous g2, g3, g4, g5.

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Either way, an update to either will be nice and the sooner the better. But, to be honest, I am more concerned with gaining root/twrp. Being on a tmo model that is bootloader-unlockable out of the box, we usually get it sooner than later...at least on my prevous g2, g3, g4, g5.
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Agree, if this year LG decides to make better updates releasing 7.1.1 for G6 i'll be pretty happy, this sort of things are always good, but well i don't have much hope for the reasons i've already explained xD
Root won't be a problem for Europeans H870, as always, but for the T-Mobile one, if it won't support the official unlock then you have to hope that devs find something similar to the findings on the G5 and V20, good luck :fingers-crossed:

Killua96 said:
Agree, if this year LG decides to make better updates releasing 7.1.1 for G6 i'll be pretty happy, this sort of things are always good, but well i don't have much hope for the reasons i've already explained xD
Root won't be a problem for Europeans H870, as always, but for the T-Mobile one, if it won't support the official unlock then you have to hope that devs find something similar to the findings on the G5 and V20, good luck :fingers-crossed:
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What is so annoying is they let us unlock the bootloader on the TMO model, but they strip out all the fastboot commands, which screws over. I believe the Euro mode still has the fastboot commands, but I am not sure.
But now we're getting way off topic. :-0 See you in the proper threads

Based on the updates I'm receiving on the Korean model, I'm optimistic about a 7.1.2 update coming in the fall maybe September.

scapeinator1 said:
Based on the updates I'm receiving on the Korean model, I'm optimistic about a 7.1.2 update coming in the fall maybe September.
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Is Korean model the one with DAC and 64GB internal memory? Do you live outside Korea?

Kukubski said:
Is Korean model the one with DAC and 64GB internal memory? Do you live outside Korea?
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Yes to both questions.

WstrKuNoužč said:
I don't think thats true. LG said they're gonna update to 7.1 to pre-production reviewers so they're probably gonna do it.
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it's funny to read this six month later and still no 7.1 for g6

LG OS support questions

Hi. I am looking at buying a G6 but I want to kow a couple of things first.
Firstly, how quick are LG with deployment of security updates for non carrier non US phones?
Secondly, how many years does LG support a phones OS updates before ending it?

I can't give you exact values but I'm very disappointed with how LG is supporting their top phone. We have that Blueborne bluetooth issue for like 2 months, google has already released a patch, but LG G6 is still stuck on 10T rom.
G6 looks great, it feels great, but my next phone (or maybe I will sell this one earlier) will be a Pixel or Oneplus. The closer to stock - the better for you.

bodziec said:
I can't give you exact values but I'm very disappointed with how LG is supporting their top phone. We have that Blueborne bluetooth issue for like 2 months, google has already released a patch, but LG G6 is still stuck on 10T rom.
G6 looks great, it feels great, but my next phone (or maybe I will sell this one earlier) will be a Pixel or Oneplus. The closer to stock - the better for you.
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I totally agree. I am disappointed too because battery drain, OS version, security patch, etc etc. It is a beautiful device but my next phone will be a Pixel, OP or Xiaomi. I think I'll never buy another LG in the future.

MuttleyMB said:
I totally agree. I am disappointed too because battery drain, OS version, security patch, etc etc. It is a beautiful device but my next phone will be a Pixel, OP or Xiaomi. I think I'll never buy another LG in the future.
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I think it's not only LG. I guess Samsung and other "top" companies do the same. They release a beautiful phone that is really tempting to get but then you are left with an outdated software. They don't really care about existing customers.

bodziec said:
I think it's not only LG. I guess Samsung and other "top" companies do the same. They release a beautiful phone that is really tempting to get but then you are left with an outdated software. They don't really care about existing customers.
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Up until a few years ago, Samsung used to abandon the devices themselves by releasing a few upgrades, even problematic.
Recently, the situation seems to have changed with faster releases of the security patches even for older devices. LG instead continues not to shine. Unfortunately!

Petition for Android 7 G4 H815

Hello,
Don't know if it is still necessary but.. A petition for an upgrade of android 7 to our G4 H815 International version.
Android 7 came out during the 2 years of maintenance of the G4.. so... LG HAS the obligation to roll out this version to every G4 version.
change.org/p/lg-electronics-android-7-for-lg-g4-h815

Djdjo59 said:
Hello,
Don't know if it is still necessary but.. A petition for an upgrade of android 7 to our G4 H815 International version.
Android 7 came out during the 2 years of maintenance of the G4.. so... LG HAS the obligation to roll out this version to every G4 version.
change.org/p/lg-electronics-android-7-for-lg-g4-h815
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I'm not trying to hate but... I've never experienced that a manufacturer took a petition for a software update/upgrade serious in any way. I've seen more than just a couple of those kind of petitions. It's pointless, it won't change anything even if it get's signed a thousand times.

Just install the "beta" version of Nougat. I've had it for over a month now and haven't noticed any setbacks. Well, other than a little screen burn, but I'm not sure if it's the Nougat or phone that's getting old. No random restarts, no FCs, nothing...Just smooth sailing. LG is not known for its good software support, so I wouldn't hold my breath about official Nougat anymore. I guess that ship has already sailed.

Mr.FREE_Bird said:
I'm not trying to hate but... I've never experienced that a manufacturer took a petition for a software update/upgrade serious in any way. I've seen more than just a couple of those kind of petitions. It's pointless, it won't change anything even if it get's signed a thousand times.
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I know... but without a try.. we can't know if it would change something... and personally, I'm not enough good in Android things to install TWRP¨(or something..) to install the v29a (I did unlock my nexus 4 to install ROM, don't know how, I broke it... like.. really: bootloop and can't do anything)

Djdjo59 said:
I know... but without a try.. we can't know if it would change something... and personally, I'm not enough good in Android things to install TWRP¨(or something..) to install the v29a (I did unlock my nexus 4 to install ROM, don't know how, I broke it... like.. really: bootloop and can't do anything)
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I've LG G4 H818P. There is a high risk of root and unlocking the device due to the warranty on the device. Especially when it comes to a device such as the LG G4 that is largely prone to bootloop.

sbasil said:
Just install the "beta" version of Nougat. I've had it for over a month now and haven't noticed any setbacks. Well, other than a little screen burn, but I'm not sure if it's the Nougat or phone that's getting old. No random restarts, no FCs, nothing...Just smooth sailing. LG is not known for its good software support, so I wouldn't hold my breath about official Nougat anymore. I guess that ship has already sailed.
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Well, the bad thing about this beta is that it is vulnerable to the recent exploits in Android as the security patch of this rom is from June 2017. So it is vulnerable to Blueborne bluetooth exploit and KRACK wifi exploit.

ZmisiS said:
I've LG G4 H818P. There is a high risk of root and unlocking the device due to the warranty on the device. Especially when it comes to a device such as the LG G4 that is largely prone to bootloop.
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Yours can't be even unlocked so don't worry
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Well, the bad thing about this beta is that it is vulnerable to the recent exploits in Android as the security patch of this rom is from June 2017. So it is vulnerable to Blueborne bluetooth exploit and KRACK wifi exploit.
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I never cared about security lol. June 2017 is last update for G4. There won't be any more updates.
Sent from Galaxy Tab A10 with 7300 battery ))

Minto107 said:
Yours can't be even unlocked so don't worry I never cared about security lol. June 2017 is last update for G4. There won't be any more updates.
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I do care, that is why I am on AOSCP.

only way to get noticed would be to ask korean LG or at twitter LG ..
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Yours can't be even unlocked so don't worry I never cared about security lol. June 2017 is last update for G4. There won't be any more updates.
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same screw security LOL

Just vote with your wallet.

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Just vote with your wallet.
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By not buying LG again? Okay, so which manufacturer will give you updates for a long period of time?
Maybe if some company would officially support Lineageos on their device.

cRaZy-bisCuiT said:
By not buying LG again? Okay, so which manufacturer will give you updates for a long period of time?
Maybe if some company would officially support Lineageos on their device.
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I haven't said that. I just meant to say that if the next wave of LG "flagships" have poor sales, maybe they will eventually do something about it.
Maybe they improve on their support, or on their quality control, I don't know.
In the short run, they will probably just ignore os.
But in the long run, if the sales figures go down and the number of support calls and/or device recalls go up maybe, just maybe, they will do something about it.
Who knows, maybe I will buy another LG product/phone if the quality and support of their devices will improve. But as it now stands, they are going down fast.
The latest sales figures already posted here are self explanatory.

LG is a bad smartphone manufacturer - majority of their recent phones have been plagued with issues (some serious some not so much)
no point in petitions cause they will ignore them, and even if they don't and actually release Android 7.0 for G4, thats still a year old OS which LG will leave at version 7.0..
just buy a smartphone that is easy to root (oneplus 5?) and go with lineage OS or something similar that gets updated on a daily basis
LG is **** tier and both their hardware and software suck

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LG is a bad smartphone manufacturer - majority of their recent phones have been plagued with issues (some serious some not so much)
no point in petitions cause they will ignore them, and even if they don't and actually release Android 7.0 for G4, thats still a year old OS which LG will leave at version 7.0..
just buy a smartphone that is easy to root (oneplus 5?) and go with lineage OS or something similar that gets updated on a daily basis
LG is **** tier and both their hardware and software suck
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I agree for the version, but not for root.
I tried with my nexus 4, I scre** it up. totally. And reading articles telling you that you have a lot of manipulations to root etc, no thanks... Except if you have a software that you install normally and boum... rooted.
I will see if the V30 will be released with oreo version. Which i doubt....

Are we getting Android P?

It is a pity that this question should even be asked even though the V20 is less than 2 years old.
Normally the phone should get 2 major software updates in 2 years. However, since we do not have android oreo yet, one begins to wonder. It will be very nice to have android P though.
Pixel and adroid one phones are looking interesting to me nowadays just because of software updates.
What do you guys think?

Android P is just a preview. We do not know anything about Android P update policies for LG devices.

The chances for an official Andriod P is 50/50 . They may just give up given how poorly this phone sold. But it will definitely meet the minimum requirements for it. But through Roms /LOS we might get 2 major updates and if we're lucky 3.

Like xda member wrote its 50/50. But by the time the v20 gets it you're probably going to have another phone lol

Still_living714 said:
Like xda member wrote its 50/50. But by the time the v20 gets it you're probably going to have another phone lol
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That preety much sums it up if the updates arent in sync with the OS release, then eventually youll out grow your phone for a better one.

im stil on 7.0 lol at this rate i;ll be on V60 by the time my v20 gets upgraded if at all.

Ak7J4 said:
The chances for an official Andriod P is 50/50 . They may just give up given how poorly this phone sold. But it will definitely meet the minimum requirements for it. But through Roms /LOS we might get 2 major updates and if we're lucky 3.
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When it comes to ROM, I guess it depends more on developers than the hardware. The Galaxy S3 is 6 years old by now, and developers are still working on Oreo for it.

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When it comes to ROM, I guess it depends more on developers than the hardware. The Galaxy S3 is 6 years old by now, and developers are still working on Oreo for it.
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True the S3 is still getting support but the S3 had significantly higher sales than the V20 , and possibly more devs

Nope

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