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First of all, this is not a childish "versus" topic to flame fanboys spirits. I just need some technical understanding of some issues.
So... I've run four or five Lollipop 5.1.1 custom ROMs on my C5303, including CM, AICP, XenonHD, Mokee. All are great and fast and developers made a tremendous job. Not all of them are so friendly with Tangerine kernel (I need a custom kernel for increasing in-calls phone volume), per instance, Mokee hangs and struggle like hell. AICP works well with T-kernel, but with some issues (reported by users), when the device will freeze for a few seconds. XenonHD loves T-kernel - no problem at all!
Still, all of these fantastic custom ROMs , with or without custom kernel, are sluggish compared with stock 4.3 Sony ROM. I've made a nandroid backup in TWRP of my XenonHD - T-Kernel installation and installed Binomical SLIM 4.3 base don stock. Just for the heck of remembering the Sony UI, I intended to restore XenonHD soon after. I'm still on Binomical 4.3. Man, this is FAST! This is a blazing rocket compared with any of the Lollipop ROMs!
On Lollipop ROMs I've had ~ 300 MB free RAM, on stock 4.3 (OK, deodexed and slim) I only have 150 MB, but Sony's ROM is way faster and smoother. It really looks like I have a completely new device in my hand. How is this possible? Why? The hardware drivers? Is X-SP really not able to handle Lollipop in a decent manner?
XDA developers worked so hard to gave us the Lollipop ROMs, and I praise their work, but looks like X-SP best choice is still the old JellyBean 4.3.
Agree.
All lollipop roms are really fast in the beginning but after sometime,it begins to lag and become slow and sluggish.I have tried many lollipop roms but always returned to stock rom.It's been 2-3 months that i'm on stock and didn't flashed any other rom.
dude flash latest cm12.1 nightly nd ull forget stock
4.1.2>4.3>5.1.1
I dont think this, i not know what version you test of aicp and xennon, thes lasts versions of aicp are laggy and xennon has battery drain sometimes, but the others no, all depends of the rom, have lollipops roms laggy and have lollipop fast roms, have kikkat laggy roms and have kitkat fast roms, and the same of all android version, the rom stock have good performance but battery drains, now i in miui 7, performance and battery are awesome
I NEVER had battery drains on stock ROM. Yes, lots of bloatware on official stock , but not battery drains. I also didn't encounter battery drain on any of the Lollipop ROM's I've tried - AICP stable and about 10 version of nightlies, CM, XenonHD latest and Mokee. Yes, those were not so "green" as stock, but nothing so horrible, maybe 10-20% less battery power than stock. The issues regarding battery were on calibration of the battery percentage, per instance it used to go downward normally till 6%, then, bang!, the telephone turned off with 0% battery all of a sudden. Anyway, this is a insignificant issue, I don't care if I'm gonna recharge battery one hour earlier, the real problem that brought me back to 4.3 stock was the PERFORMANCE.
What I can't figure out is how come 300MB free RAM Lollipop is worst than 150 MB RAM JellyBean. Why? Xperia SP can't deal with ART instructions, it's Dalvik-only? I mean, OK, our developers have limited resources and most of them test their code on their own device, they have to be careful and not trying something risky; by contrast, Sony have unlimited resources to develop and tune their ROM. I know that, it's obvious, all my respect to XDA developers. What I'm trying to figure out is what's that bump in the road, what keeps X-SP Lollipop to be blazing fast? It's ART? It's drivers? I't Tangerine kernel, that most of us "married" with LP ROM's?
Thank you guys.
To be honest, you have answered your own question based on your newer question.
It is optimisation, man. 4.3 (or prior), those stock ROMs are made by Sony. Since it is made by Sony, you can expect a very great deal out of it, battery life, performance and all of those sweet things.
Since Sony lied to SP users and abandoned the SP with the last known version 4.3, we have problems on optimising ROMs because of no official blobs to refer to.
It has been until now. Everything is, thanks to the hard work of developers, our Xperia SP can still run newer Android versions while still maintaining the "blaziness" of the ROM.
Needless to say, its optimisations.
As always, you have the rights on which ROM to use, so choose the one that suits you.
Guys, I am thinking of buying Xperia SP to use with Cyanogenmod 12.1 instead of cheap budget phone like Motorola E 4G. Price for me is the same, actually SP is cheaper than Motorola E.
I like SP because fast CPU and GPU ( Adreno 320 ! ) so it's no slouch and it has official CM12.1 support. I don't want to use anything other than latest 12.1 but I'm worried about performance and battery. Is it really that bad ?
I cannot try out the ROMs myself as I have not bought SP yet.
Is any CM12.1 ROM stable, fast and with good battery performance ? I see you have custom kernels for CM12.1 but what is the Linux version - is it 3.10 or above ?
Does SP have heating issues and performance problems ( like so many claim here ) ? Or maybe that appears only after some years of usage ?
What about this screen flickering problem which seems to be present in all CM12.1 ? How bad is it ?
Thanks for your assistance !
"Does SP have heating issues and performance problems ( like so many claim here ) ? Or maybe that appears only after some years of usage ?" It has those issues, but I think it depends on certain devices. Mine for example overheats with any rom, no matter stock or custom, while there are people who never experience those problems. As for stock vs custom it's clear enough that stock is best optimised.
I tested a lot ROMS.
I like the OMNI ROM (Android 4.4.4). It's really fast and stable. Maybe you should try it.
I like also the Xenon HD ROM (Android 5.1.1). It's fast. Not so stable, but still very good..
After a few days it gets a little laggy. I´d liked to know why to. Faced the same problem with AICP.
I've had similar experience as you guys with lollipop custom ROMS. As much as I wanted to like them, after trying few, I have switched back to stock. Lollipop roms look nice, they offer more features and battery life is amazing compared to stock. However, none of the roms are stable enough to be used as a daily driver. After few days every single one of them refused to boot up, forcing my phone into recovery mode, so the only way out was to reflash. It has been a nice experience, but XSP is my one and only phone needed for communication, not a toy, therefore I need something that works and does it reliably. I think I'd just get a nexus or motorola when it's the time to upgrade.
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Guys, I am thinking of buying Xperia SP to use with Cyanogenmod 12.1 instead of cheap budget phone like Motorola E 4G. Price for me is the same, actually SP is cheaper than Motorola E.
I like SP because fast CPU and GPU ( Adreno 320 ! ) so it's no slouch and it has official CM12.1 support. I don't want to use anything other than latest 12.1 but I'm worried about performance and battery. Is it really that bad ?
I cannot try out the ROMs myself as I have not bought SP yet.
Is any CM12.1 ROM stable, fast and with good battery performance ? I see you have custom kernels for CM12.1 but what is the Linux version - is it 3.10 or above ?
Does SP have heating issues and performance problems ( like so many claim here ) ? Or maybe that appears only after some years of usage ?
What about this screen flickering problem which seems to be present in all CM12.1 ? How bad is it ?
Thanks for your assistance !
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No heating issues, I mean CPU gets hot sometimes (with not regard of the ROM installed), but it's all at thigh as 60°C. Most Android devices are well in specs on that thermal level.
Performance regarded. CM Vanilla or most of the 5.1.1 custom ROM - it's fast for the day 1, then it gets little sluggish, you'll have to boot to recovery and clear dalvik/art cache to refresh you device. If you don't need kernel level modifications I recommend you to stay with stock FOTA, Tangerine kernel might cause some screen or device freeze and stutter.
Years of usage to get slower performance? LOL We're talking about hours!
Display flickering (or getting yellowish) I guess it's hardware related - some X-SP never experienced it (mine included).
OK. Thanks for your feedback guys. I cannot test myself since I don't have device.
Do you think developer support is strong enough that they will manage to get Android 6 working properly on SP ?
big dilemma
Hi guys,
I have big dilemma what to do. My wife liked to buy the XSP because of the LED lights etc. She uses the phone mostly for calling, texting and music listening. As she has the Deezer premium acc I went in big troubles with XSP because the known bad memory management. More than one year she have bothered with it(and me too . After the 2years waranty ending I have decided to root, UBL and test custom ROMs. First we have tried the lightered stock ArchXperia, which was not helping us. Now she is since August on CM12 nightly. Yes, Deezer works good now, but on the other hand she is missing the stock Sony apps, working LED bar(with music), stock FM radio and generaly dislike the 5.1 Android (she is little bit old school, not likes many new things to learn).
Please, could somebody recommend to me any rom, which is stable, close to stock look (apps incl.) and has good ram management, that Deezer will work good, without memory issues?
Was it maybe wrong, that I have skipped the 4.4.4 Android over?
Many thanks in advance for any kind of tip or idea.
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Hi guys,
I have big dilemma what to do. My wife liked to buy the XSP because of the LED lights etc. She uses the phone mostly for calling, texting and music listening. As she has the Deezer premium acc I went in big troubles with XSP because the known bad memory management. More than one year she have bothered with it(and me too . After the 2years waranty ending I have decided to root, UBL and test custom ROMs. First we have tried the lightered stock ArchXperia, which was not helping us. Now she is since August on CM12 nightly. Yes, Deezer works good now, but on the other hand she is missing the stock Sony apps, working LED bar(with music), stock FM radio and generaly dislike the 5.1 Android (she is little bit old school, not likes many new things to learn).
Please, could somebody recommend to me any rom, which is stable, close to stock look (apps incl.) and has good ram management, that Deezer will work good, without memory issues?
Was it maybe wrong, that I have skipped the 4.4.4 Android over?
Many thanks in advance for any kind of tip or idea.
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Try a slim stock ROM, just as Binomical, based o stock JB 4.3. .207. It includes Williams kernel and that might do the trick with RAM management.
Yes, thank you, I was thinking about exactly this one... good to have the choice confirmed. Just installed, look forward to try it and test it on my wife
BPavel said:
Yes, thank you, I was thinking about exactly this one... good to have the choice confirmed. Just installed, look forward to try it and test it on my wife
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Or maybe you can check out the cm11 last build. Used to be on cm11 for a year with William's kernel and was pretty good. With some apps you can have the disco lights fully functional.
My current phone, HTC M8 has almost died on me. The speakers are shot and to be honest the battery is getting worse, it really isn't worth fixing considering it's beaten up condition.
For now I need speakers, so I'm thinking of digging out my mint condition Nexus 4. It is unlocked etc so it is ready for flashing away. The last rom on it was the fantastic Mahdi rom, but of course that was Kitkat.
I hate asking the best rom question, it's done to death and annoys people. So I'll ask a different way!!!
Would I be correct to assume Lollipop roms are likely the most stable, battery efficient roms or is the consensus that Kitkat was better? I won't mention Marshmallow as it's not "official". Oh wait, I just did!
Thank you.
Purenexus or chroma are very stable on marshmallow.
Thanks for that, will take a look later.
It will be like stepping back time firing up the old Nexus. Still a fantastic piece of hardware, quite ahead of it's time back then I think.
I would also recommend Chroma, Marshmallow works really well on the Nexus 4 even if it is not officially released for that device. I wouldn't go back to a previous version.
About Pure Nexus, personally I've had some issues with it. If I remember well it was Bluetooth audio playback stutettering and/or frequent WiFi disconnections. It was an older version however. Maybe it is fixed now.
Unfortunately, the developer is only going to be releasing one more update to Chroma for the Nexus 4 and that is it, so it doesn't make sense to install it . I am currently on Chroma and love it, so that is a shame. I think I am going to go with CM13 next.
After enjoying a 64gb storage phone, I just realised my old N4 was only an 8gb. That said, I don't recall ever running out of space. I don't do music, install many apps or store much junk such as pics so I might get away with it. I simply need a working phone for talk, text, mobile web etc.
Dirty Unicorns is a solid ROM..
For marshmallow I recommend Pure Nexus. The best I've used performance, stability and battery life wise, was Purity kitkat.
I would recmend Sailfish OS + sfdroid. You can run android apps and have the best multitasking out there. Sailfish OS is almost pure linux on your phone. It's faster then android and without sfdroid and google apps does not drain battery. You will have amazing battery life with just sailfish os on your nexus 4. Trust me i have nexus 4 with Sailfish OS only. It does 4 hour SOT at least with full day battery life.
Thanks for all the advice. The old N4 is now up and running, with the latest Pure Nexus. All is well, although it will take some getting used to not having bass speakers from the htc!
Good to have a working phone again. Hope it lasts a while until I can afford another phone or get my htc repaired. Might have a play around with different roms.
Anyone still on Kitkat?
Chroma, installed it in both my mom and brother nexus, no problem whatsoever.
The ROM isn't the only thing you can do to make the N4 up to "modern standards".
My advice is to find a ROM you like. I use DirtyUnicorns since it stills get updated regularly (but it sucks because they recommend you clean flash each time).
Next, flash the HellSpawn kernel (and control it with the Kernel Aduitor app, from the play store).
Then go find the latest Viper4Android app and flash that. This will boost your sound performance immensely (seriously, it's like a different phone) - note, if you get audio bugs then just increase performance in the kernel.
Finally, get some nice icon themes or layers so you can make it as you want it.
(for more advanced stuff, you can flash xposed as well and add some nice modules to improve the look and usage of the phone).
Oh, and AdAway!
Was the best rom for this tablet, the stock version is pretty laggy, im flashing a optimized rom to see if improves but any suggestions?
efrommel said:
Was the best rom for this tablet, the stock version is pretty laggy, im flashing a optimized rom to see if improves but any suggestions?
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I got the base rom to run pretty good once I turned off all notifications and animations, and set the max number of background processes to 4
I like los14.1... but I've barebones the build by deleting everything I don't want and then I added some tweaks to make it feel real good.
All the custom roms are more or less the same (except for stock based like stock+ rom) because they are all made from Steel01's sources baked with custom rom specific files. So pick the one you find the prettiest or the most useful...
Hi All
What is latest ROM , there is any stability one from end of 2018 . Maybe someone working on new one ?
It depends what you're going for on your tablet. If you're aiming to keep all the Nvidia specific features I would recommend the 5.4.1 stock+ rom. If you don't care about any of that I believe that lineage is the way to go. Between the two, performance is the same for the most part, lineage is based on 7.1.2 though instead of 7.0, so you get a few newer features. If I have time later to come back to this I'll link them.
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It depends what you're going for on your tablet. If you're aiming to keep all the Nvidia specific features I would recommend the 5.4.1 stock+ rom. If you don't care about any of that I believe that lineage is the way to go. Between the two, performance is the same for the most part, lineage is based on 7.1.2 though instead of 7.0, so you get a few newer features. If I have time later to come back to this I'll link them.
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Thank You
I will try go with that one- 5.4.1 stock+ rom
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Thank You
I will try go with that one- 5.4.1 stock+ rom
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I've been trying the 5.4.1+ rom. For some reason it crashes and boot loops after installing Swift Keyboard Damn, I really like that keyboard. Then I updated Magisk on it, to get a message saying the new Magisk app isn't supported. So I uninstalled it to download the previous version and that caused a bootloop now too
Just flashed it again, hopefully it works better this time.
I am also wondering what is the best ROM for my K1 is?
First off, I bought this tablet used. Did some research and found out about the battery recall, mine is not one of them, as in I have the newer/better battery.
Secondly I did update the stock rom to 5.4 but the battery drain was horrendous. No gaming, just surfing facebook or the internet was a draining the battery in a few hours. Even in standby on my nightstand, battery was almost dead the next morning. Then after some research many people said to downgrade to 5.2 which I did and it pretty much fixed the battery drain issue.
Then I found out about LineageOS and decided to install 15.1, performance is good, but does still experience some battery drain issues, but not as bad as 5.4.
I also know that earlier this year LineageOS has returned support for the Nividia Shield K1 tablet, but is that for OS 17 and how long do I have to wait for that version?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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I am also wondering what is the best ROM for my K1 is?
First off, I bought this tablet used. Did some research and found out about the battery recall, mine is not one of them, as in I have the newer/better battery.
Secondly I did update the stock rom to 5.4 but the battery drain was horrendous. No gaming, just surfing facebook or the internet was a draining the battery in a few hours. Even in standby on my nightstand, battery was almost dead the next morning. Then after some research many people said to downgrade to 5.2 which I did and it pretty much fixed the battery drain issue.
Then I found out about LineageOS and decided to install 15.1, performance is good, but does still experience some battery drain issues, but not as bad as 5.4.
I also know that earlier this year LineageOS has returned support for the Nividia Shield K1 tablet, but is that for OS 17 and how long do I have to wait for that version?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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On 5.4 to get regular battery usage you have to enable custom cpu profiles, the default profile doesn't idle properly and the cpu's stay in a higher frequency state. You can then have all 4 cores enabled and it will idle properly (well it does for me), and you have nvidia driver support for the original wifi game controller which i have.
Otherwise, if you use a LineageOS 14 build, you can have full hardware video acceleration, on 15 builds you won't have hardware video acceleration.
So what your saying is I can go back to 5.4 and just play with the settings? Any special apps to do this, or just all within the android settings that need changing in order to have the performance and stop the battery drain problem?
If it's just the android settings, what are the settings I need to change? Tutorial?
Thanks
AOSP extended from bit obsession is a bit old but still snappy!
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On 5.4 to get regular battery usage you have to enable custom cpu profiles, the default profile doesn't idle properly and the cpu's stay in a higher frequency state. You can then have all 4 cores enabled and it will idle properly (well it does for me), and you have nvidia driver support for the original wifi game controller which i have.
Otherwise, if you use a LineageOS 14 build, you can have full hardware video acceleration, on 15 builds you won't have hardware video acceleration.
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Got a link to the LineageOS 14 build that you use?
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battery
honestly, i think we are all screwed
my tablet wont charge at all now. it shows the icon on the screen saying it is charging but it doesnt charge at all. sometimes i can get about 10% on it.
the computer no longer recognises the device and i have only ever used official ota firmwares for it
spoke to Nvidia and all i got was the out of warrenty response.
they no longer care in anyway about shield tablet users and as it is discontinued its not like you can even buy a replacement. you cant buy secondhand either because theyll all just have the same bollocks battery issues we have on ours now.
I'll contribute a data point for anyone reading in late-2019 going into 2020:
I'm on Stock+ 5.4.1 on my K1 and it has been great for me so far in the last few weeks since I flashed it. I had been on the stock Marshmallow firmware for the past three years and was having the typical lag issues on wake. It was so severe that the tablet was completely unusable coming out of a deep sleep. It was also a chore to reboot it because even the lag on holding down the power button was agonizing and unpredictable. It was worse than booting Windows with an old hard drive.
I've had no lag-on-wake issues with Stock+ 5.4.1 so far. It's like coming back to remember why I liked this tablet in the first place after hating it for the past couple of years. I hadn't used it for anything other than daily alarms over the past year and change, but lately, I've been using it for bedside reading again instead of my phones.
To address a few of the issues that have been brought up in this thread:
I haven't had any battery drain issues with Stock+ 5.4.1. It seems to do about the same on my K1 as Marshmallow did, which was 100% to 15% on idle except for daily alarms (and snoozes) from Sunday through Saturday.
I ordered a new 6000 mAh replacement battery from AliExpress and will be installing it when needed. My current battery life isn't great, but it's not horrible either. I think it still manages to have about 80% of its original capacity.
After installing Stock+ 5.4.1, I flashed the latest Magisk 20.1 zip (Stock+ 5.4.1 came with Magisk 16.0) from within TWRP at a later date with no issues. Magisk 18+ is not compatible with Magisk Manager versions older than 7.0.0, but the old versions of Magisk Manager were bad in that they would always ask you to update to the latest version regardless of what version of Magisk you had installed. Basically, Magisk Manager was asking you for permission to nuke itself.
I have never used the official Facebook or Messenger apps, but virtually every comment I've ever read about them say that they're battery killers. Use a third-party app that combines both and has a smaller memory footprint.
I used to be an avid user of SwiftKey, but I've since soured on it. I haven't installed it on my K1 since the firmware upgrade and I don't know if I will going forward. The biggest benefit of SwiftKey used to be the dedicated number row, but its predictive swiping was the worst I had ever used. I'm on Gboard now and it seems to be working well. The only feature I miss from SwiftKey is the arrow keys to move the text cursor.
I am also wondering what is the best ROM. I got a K1 used as well not too long ago, and I mostly want to use it as a study tool for some CompTIA certifications in 2020, so viewing PDF's/word docs, exam simulations, and tutorial videos will be it's primary function. I do like comics so I would like it to perform snappy.
I really have no interest in gaming or social media.
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I am also wondering what is the best ROM. I got a K1 used as well not too long ago, and I mostly want to use it as a study tool for some CompTIA certifications in 2020, so viewing PDF's/word docs, exam simulations, and tutorial videos will be it's primary function. I do like comics so I would like it to perform snappy.
I really have no interest in gaming or social media.
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I went with a stock-based ROM because I still wanted all of the tablet's functionality to work as designed, even though I've never played games on my K1 using a controller or created an Nvidia account. However, as long as retaining those features won't cause the device to run poorly and there isn't anything inherently poor about the stock experience, I don't mind. Stock-based ROMs are usually easier to set up and install. Nvidia stock firmware isn't known for being particularly bloated or heavy like that of some phone manufacturers, but of course LineageOS is still going to be faster at the cost of some device-specific features.
Given your intended use, as long as you use something newer than the stock Marshmallow firmware and its wake lag issues, you probably don't need to worry about much else.
I decided to dig my K1 out of the closet and have a play with over the holidays. I just flashed the stock recovery 5.20 but for some reason I cannot update or download any apps from the Google Play Store. I keep getting error 963. I searched how to fix this but nothing has worked.
Anyone else been able to fix this?
Tired of trying to use cutting edge roms where everything is unstable or just plain does not work. If it's not a problem with my bluetooth audio, my Tic watch stops working, or the whoe lthing just up and freezes and reboots. All types of wild stuff.
What ROM would be recommended where everything works that is stable and is not the stock ROM? Resurrection?? Or Anything else??
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Tired of trying to use cutting edge roms where everything is unstable or just plain does not work. If it's not a problem with my bluetooth audio, my Tic watch stops working, or the whoe lthing just up and freezes and reboots. All types of wild stuff.
What ROM would be recommended where everything works that is stable and is not the stock ROM? Resurrection?? Or Anything else??
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I'm assuming by "not stock rom" you mean not a modified stock rom either, correct? If that's the case, I've been recently using both LOS 16 and RR v7 (pie). Both of those work really well with minimal issues depending what you use most. I also think star53's Norma v26 worked well for the 910v.
There are issues that come up from time to time with all of the non stock roms, but I think those three are as close to 100% as it might get.
If you're okay with a modified stock rom then I've only used one where all the features work...
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I'm assuming by "not stock rom" you mean not a modified stock rom either, correct?
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YEs correct.
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If that's the case, I've been recently using both LOS 16 and RR v7 (pie). .
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Ive been using LOS up to now. Nothing against that ROM or those guys. And they are doing a wonderful job. I just can't use it as a daily driver.. too many bugs and things that either don't work or stop working after a awhile.
I loaded up RR last night. With exception of some sluggishness and a SystemUI crash this morning, it's been running fairly decent with my Tic WATCH, Cars ODB2 adapter and Bluetooth audio working fairly well.
However once I begin using Google Music to stream and Maps to navigate at the same time, it becomes deathly slow. I think I'm coming to the realization that I have squeezed as much life as I can out of this old gal. Maybe it's time to hand it down to my son who like playing video games on his phones and get myself an S8+. The prices are starting to plummet since the announcement and distribution of the S10 and Plus.
I need a snappy phone and Pixel 2XLs are still up in the clouds somewhere at $450-500 USD. ANy advise on the most snappy yet underrated(read inexpensive) phones out there?
There doesn't appear to be much activity on this forum or in any of the custom ROMs for this device. I'm sad that it's stuck on Marshmallow (I know Nougat ROMs exist, but in my experience they were too unstable to use) when Android 11 is about to drop, and that GNU/Linux is not available for it. With the newest builds I can find being from mid 2019 and the Linux kernel stuck on an unsupported version, I just don't trust it to be secure any more, so I'm now using it mostly airgapped, and only on a trusted firewalled network when I absolutely must use the wi-fi.
In order to get some idea of how much hope there is, I'd like to know if anyone has a guess for how many of these are still in service.
I have one that I play with from time to time but mostly just email. I still have one brand new in a box that we never used as we got it as part of a promotion. I've thought about it using it with my OBD2 connector to troubleshoot the cars.
I got 3 of it, grandparents using 2 of them and Im using the last one for reading and surfing web.
Me! My father bought it back like in 2013 and haven't used it much until last year. Then he gave it to me and I was pumped cause never really had a tabled. I discovered how comfortable are they to read/surf/watch YouTube.
I flashed it with Lineage and later Unlegacy, both at android 7.1. I must say when it functions correctly, it FLIES!! I can watch YT videos at 720 no problems and the pictures look great, very nice colors!
Unfortunately it hangs often, like there's a hidden process of the OS causing problems. It heats the hell out of the CPU and resetting doesn't seem to solve it, but eventually goes away and comes back to normal. It expends like 60% of the time functioning right and the other 40% overheating and hanging up. It also drops wifi intermittently.
Even with all those problems I refuse to let it go. Mine is almost new, and as I said I love how the screen looks despite it's resolution. I wish I could get an stable release in 7.1 so I can squeeze the rest of it's life out of it.
Lineage is not being ported anymore by AndroidAndi and Unlegacy project seems dead as well. Im lost here, if somebody can point me to a stable release I could use for the things I do with it, that would be AWESOME! (EDIT: Will try out AICP)
You mentioned AICP, which I haven't heard of before. Is that still maintained for it?
I still have a working one and use it accasionally for movies. Now I am looking for a "newer" stable ROM, at the moment it has cyanogen mod 13.0-201618 nightly
I don't think there ever was anything stable other than KitKat. I'm using an unofficial nightly Omnirom marshmallow build from early 2019. There are Nougat nightly roms, but I've found them to be too slow to use.
I still have a tab 2. i dont ever use it but its a good backup device. i messed around with it the first time i started running custom roms on androids. i put a couple different roms like cyanogen mod. but went back to stock and havent touched it since that was like 2014. now im trying to run the latest version of lineage os to make it faster and more stable as the stock/custom rom was very unstable.
I just turned mine on and see I'm running slim-4.44 build. Sucks cause lots of stuff doesn't work on it. Netflix isn't even supported.
Is there another rom that can be loaded that's better to get better functionality? I know this is super old hardware. Email pretty much is fine but seems silly to just use this for email. Hate to throw it out because it's in immaculate condition...lol
-Nigel
NewShockerGuy said:
I just turned mine on and see I'm running slim-4.44 build. Sucks cause lots of stuff doesn't work on it. Netflix isn't even supported.
Is there another rom that can be loaded that's better to get better functionality? I know this is super old hardware. Email pretty much is fine but seems silly to just use this for email. Hate to throw it out because it's in immaculate condition...lol
-Nigel
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Yes, folks, this is old hardware but its not acceptable to ditch is just because its hard. We'll never move to a more sustainable economy is we can recycle old hardware. They work that you guys do with custom ROMs is awesome as you are doing your bit to not fill landfills. It would be good to know if there is still a relatively recent ROM for the Galaxy Tab 2 that is still maintained.
Hi all, I'm using unlegacy Android based on Android 7.1 and I suggest you to use it
I suggest you to not flash gapps (they're too much resources intensive). I'm currently using it with L speed set everything on performance (don't fuss with ram manager settings because it crashes) and with Firefox preview ( the fastest and most stable for this tablet IMO) downloaded from apkpure
lukigno95 said:
Hi all, I'm using unlegacy Android based on Android 7.1 and I suggest you to use it
I suggest you to not flash gapps (they're too much resources intensive). I'm currently using it with L speed set everything on performance (don't fuss with ram manager settings because it crashes) and with Firefox preview ( the fastest and most stable for this tablet IMO) downloaded from apkpure
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Hello,
Which unlegacy build are you using for your tablet? There was a build from July 2019, and it seemed to have security patch as of 7/5/2019. Unfortunately, I saw it too late on jenkins, and it isn't available for download anymore (probably because I don't know how to download older artifacts from jenkins).
I have a P5113 10.1 WiFi, and I'm using unlegacy asop 6.0.1 build as of February 2019 since I couldn't get 7.1 to get pass the setup wizard, probably because of gapps as you suggested.
ME! I still use P3100 model it is fine but it is lagging a lot these days . I'm using slim os 4.4. Anybody can suggest a smooth ROM for the Device.
Thanks
Just received one from my nephew to keep the kids busy... watching yt , uh quietly...
Kept my head busy thinking if any good ROM would be available.
Good to know there are possibilities.
I have one too.
Thanks to Android-Andi it's up and running again.
Thanks again Andi.
Yeah after so many attempts , I have now managed to make it usable.
Previously I was using crDroid rom (marshmallow) with gapps. But it was so laggy that I couldn't do anything ( literally anything). Now after doing some research I have chosen unified lineage OS 14 ( 7.0) from Android Andi's website. I am now using unified Twrp ( not the official one) also from Andi's website. And flashed a custom overclocked kernel. This time I am not using gapps ( very resource heavy). And using "NEW PIPE" for YouTube streaming. And rooted with magisk and flashed "Oxygen OS sounds" from magisk modules. Now I can watch YouTube videos 720p without any lag. This device flies now...??
I have 1
I bought one for a microbiology class because it was cheaper to buy a digital copy and the tablet than to buy the book. It was a new book with no previous editions, so I had to. I never really had to use it for classes again, I prefer a book over the tablet. It has been sitting around untouched for a bit, I think the last time I used it Hulu or Netflix no longer had a compatible app version for android 4. I can't remember how much I paid for it, but I feel like it got slow and they quit pushing out updates not long after I bought it. I decided to pull it out and play around with it. It is not doing much, so if I mess it up by rooting it, I won't be too upset. Trying to find the best way to do this. I have also seen some information about LineageOS.
Ka-B00M said:
There doesn't appear to be much activity on this forum or in any of the custom ROMs for this device. I'm sad that it's stuck on Marshmallow (I know Nougat ROMs exist, but in my experience they were too unstable to use) when Android 11 is about to drop, and that GNU/Linux is not available for it. With the newest builds I can find being from mid 2019 and the Linux kernel stuck on an unsupported version, I just don't trust it to be secure any more, so I'm now using it mostly airgapped, and only on a trusted firewalled network when I absolutely must use the wi-fi.
In order to get some idea of how much hope there is, I'd like to know if anyone has a guess for how many of these are still in service.
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still own one but its slow , not as slow as my old ipad 3 which is useless now
In the name of GOD?.....Hi do you know what's custom ROM is best?slim6 2017
Still using this tablet for surfing, videos with RR rom. Quite happy with that.