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Guys Motorola just released list of devices that will be officially supported for Android 7.0.Unfortunately Moto Turbo did not make into that list.Now i see no chances in future too Although Droid Turbo 2 made into that list

The Droid Turbo is still waiting on Marshmallow, let alone Nougat. Its international model, the Maxx, didn't even get MM until earlier this year. We'll probably be lucky if we get official MM at all.
Speaking of which, the Maxx isn't on the list either, which doesn't bode well. Probably going to have to wait and hope someone builds CM14 for our phone, if you want Nougat.

CM14 (Nougat) will come for Quark
cure25 said:
Guys Motorola just released list of devices that will be officially supported for Android 7.0.
Unfortunately Moto Turbo did not make into that list.
Now i see no chances in future too although Droid Turbo 2 made into that list
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You are referring to this updated Nougat device list from Motorola:
http://motorola-blog.blogspot.co.uk/2016/10/n-is-for-nougat-android-70-is-coming-to.html
There was an earlier list 3 months ago, with more devices to be added at a "later date". Yeah, no Quark phones made the updated list.
Of course, the Droid Turbo XT1254 made the Motorola "Marshmallow" list back on October 2, 2015 but Verizon deigned not release it to Droid Turbo owners (yet or maybe ever).
Septfox said:
The Droid Turbo is still waiting on Marshmallow, let alone Nougat. Its international model, the Maxx, didn't even get MM until earlier this year. We'll probably be lucky if we get official MM at all.
Speaking of which, the Maxx isn't on the list either, which doesn't bode well. Probably going to have to wait and hope someone builds CM14 for our phone, if you want Nougat.
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That someone is our CM dev @Skrilax_CZ, and he has already committed to that.
Quark got Lollipop before Motorola gave it to us (March 2014 vs April 2015), Marshmallow before Motorola gave it to us (February 2016 vs July 2016) and will get Nougat. He's just waiting until nightlies for any CM14 ROM starts rolling out.
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I usually start porting when CM14 official nightlies start. CM14 is just too unstable right now. Although since I have 2nd MAXX, I might look on it a bit earlier
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Then, after Quark CM14 -- especially the kernel work -- other ROMs can build on that framework. We have 7 custom Marshmallow ROMs for the Quark (maybe 8 depending on how you count) -- they work on ALL Quarks, thanks to our CM dev. '
No reason we won't have just as many Nougat based ROMs.

Here's hoping that CM14 fixes the signal issues of CM13

I unlocked my bootloader (SU4TL-49) but now puzzled if I should wait for CM14 or install CM13 now...
I am new to installing a custom ROM and don't know if it is worth the time to install a soon-to-be outdated ROM.
Also, if the recommendation will be to still install now, which ROM to get. Just sick of Verizon and Motorola crap.
Thanks

a_cipher said:
I unlocked my bootloader (SU4TL-49) but now puzzled if I should wait for CM14 or install CM13 now...
I am new to installing a custom ROM and don't know if it is worth the time to install a soon-to-be outdated ROM.
Also, if the recommendation will be to still install now, which ROM to get. Just sick of Verizon and Motorola crap.
Thanks
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Install now. CM13 (Marshmallow) was in "beta"/preview the first month. (And that "first month" for CM14 Quark ROM may not be until November.) Whereas CM12.1 (Lollipop) was rock solid. I didn't switch to a Marshmallow ROM for awhile, from CM12.1.
Go with the stable ROM (CM13) or other Marshmallow ROM for now. You can always change by end of the year.
You may even like Marshmallow Bliss or Resurrection Remix ROMs better than CM13. They seem to be the two most popular right now.

Edit: changed a word with a synonym so it would be understood without a negative connotation:
I'm typically a cyanogenmod fan and I used cm on this device since it was stable until a few weeks ago.
I'm currently rocking marshmallow Nexus experience rom, but before I go back to cm13 I'm going to try mokee.
Resurrection remix and bliss are filled with features. This is NOT a bad thing it is just features I hold little interest in and I keep finding myself just going back to cm.
Nexus experience doesn't screen cast right. Other than that it works great.
Cm13 doesn't pass Android pay or Pokemon go security checks. Rooting is NOT enough. So if you use either app my recommendation is Resurrection remix, Nexus experience or stock brazil marshmallow without volte
ALL Roms other than stock lollipop based Roms do NOT support volte (data during phone calls)

ChazzMatt and mrkhigh,
I can't thank you enough for quick and detailed responses!
Sounds great, I'll do some more reading on those roms and decide which one to get.
Thanks!

mrkhigh said:
I'm typically a cyanogenmod fan and I used cm on this device since it was stable until a few weeks ago.
I'm currently rocking marshmallow Nexus experience rom, but before I go back to cm13 I'm going to try mokee.
Resurrection remix and bliss are "bloated" with features. This is NOT a bad thing it is just features I hold little interest in and I keep finding myself just going back to cm.
Nexus experience doesn't screen cast right. Other than that it works great.
Cm13 doesn't pass Android pay or Pokemon go security checks. Rooting is NOT enough. So if you use either app my recommendation is Resurrection remix, Nexus experience or stock brazil marshmallow without volte
ALL Roms other than stock lollipop based Roms do NOT support volte (data during phone calls)
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Bliss isn't "bloated", it has the smallest footprint of any ROM I've built or used. And it reboots in under 30 seconds, my Keurig isn't that fast. @bhb27 is constantly working on RR, and it's the most popular/downloaded ROM we have, no doubt about it.
VoLTE is something you have to sacrifice in order to use a custom ROM. bhb is trying to fix that too, but unfortunately, he lives in Brazil and is not a VZW customer.
I know that you know what you're talking about (been around long enough to see that), but to say Bliss is "bloated"...

My apologies. You took it wrong... I said it was bloated with features.... Meaning lots and lots of features.
They are features I don't use. So for me they are by definition 'bloat' but i did then say that's not a bad thing.
Probably a poor choice of words since it is often used negatively. Kinda like the word ignorant sounds bad but it would be completely correct to say "I'm ignorant in Pascal coding."
Bliss is an amazing rom. Just like cm rr and mokee.
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Edited statement above so nobody else would mistake what I was trying to say. It now reads filled

mrkhigh said:
My apologies. You took it wrong... I said it was bloated with features.... Meaning lots and lots of features.
They are features I don't use. So for me they are by definition 'bloat' but i did then say that's not a bad thing.
Probably a poor choice of words since it is often used negatively. Kinda like the word ignorant sounds bad but it would be completely correct to say "I'm ignorant in Pascal coding."
Bliss is an amazing rom. Just like cm rr and mokee.
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Edited statement above so nobody else would mistake what I was trying to say. It now reads filled
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Words are funny like that, yes? Everyone has their own opinion when it comes to a custom ROM (good thing we have many to choose from, lol), I just misinterpreted your meaning of "bloat", so: My apologies to you as well :highfive:

mrkhigh said:
Edit: changed a word with a synonym so it would be understood without a negative connotation:
I'm typically a cyanogenmod fan and I used cm on this device since it was stable until a few weeks ago.
I'm currently rocking marshmallow Nexus experience rom, but before I go back to cm13 I'm going to try mokee.
Resurrection remix and bliss are filled with features. This is NOT a bad thing it is just features I hold little interest in and I keep finding myself just going back to cm.
Nexus experience doesn't screen cast right. Other than that it works great.
Cm13 doesn't pass Android pay or Pokemon go security checks. Rooting is NOT enough. So if you use either app my recommendation is Resurrection remix, Nexus experience or stock brazil marshmallow without volte
ALL Roms other than stock lollipop based Roms do NOT support volte (data during phone calls)
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I've been considering leaving CM13 do I can use Android Pay and Pokemon Go(my son loves to play) which ROM do you recommend, Nexus experience or Brazilian stock? Which one is less hassle to get those apps working?

kingersj1 said:
I've been considering leaving CM13 do I can use Android Pay and Pokemon Go(my son loves to play) which ROM do you recommend, Nexus experience or Brazilian stock? Which one is less hassle to get those apps working?
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Neither. If you want those things, you'll need to install the latest official Motorola release for your Droid Turbo, and nothing else. The latest update to SafetyNet broke the workarounds that were used in CM-based ROMS (Brazilian stock never passed SafetyNet at all, even without root or xposed installed). I think suhide might still work, but only on a stock marshmallow ROM that passes SafetyNet, and we don't have that.
EDIT: Never mind. I might be wrong about all of that. Check out Resurrection Remix. The dev has added a companion app called iSu that works as of 3 days ago for hiding root (stock CM root, do not install SuperSU), and apparently it passes safetynet.

JFYKI, I haven't tried out Bliss yet but I noticed that ROM size is 330mb for Bliss while RR is 273mb. I am quite satisfied with latest version of RR on XT1254.

The size of the system partition, if I'm not mistaken and assuming you have not manually resized it, is about 3 GB. So I'm pretty sure neither Bliss nor RR is going to fill that up anytime soon. But if you can somehow fill up that partition with mods that need over 10 times the space of the base OS, you are my hero.

The system partition is 1.94gb and I haven't ever resized the partition. With stock based ROMs, I was struggling with space on system partition. You're correct that with almost everything installed that I need, there's still 500+mb available.

kingersj1 said:
I've been considering leaving CM13 do I can use Android Pay and Pokemon Go(my son loves to play) which ROM do you recommend, Nexus experience or Brazilian stock? Which one is less hassle to get those apps working?
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RR is your best bet. Use the iSU app and you can "keep" root
I'm currently using it due to that exact reason.
With nexus you'll have to simply "unroot" I left that ROM because face book kept locking up?!
And I would ASSUME the Brazil ROM would work out of the box since I do not believe it includes root.

Resurrection remix works just fine

Fwiw I think Brazil ROM no root would be a great choice as well. Nexus was buggy with Facebook for some reason but unrooted it passed safety net
Cm13 will NOT pass even unrooted. No idea why.

Brazilian does not play nice with Xposed...

Best ROM for Redmi 4 Prime as of right now

Hey guys,
I am currently running a beta of MIUI EU (it was one of the first original ROMs) however I want something new and stable. If I flash the stable MIUI EU I need to flash it from scratch and delete data, so I might as well see whats out there.
What is the most stable ROM for us currently?
My requirements in a ROM are the below;
- Fingerprint Sensor
- Encryption
- No bloatware
- Stable
- Receives OTA updates
- Good battery management (MIUI actually does a pretty good job of this AFAIK)
I am currently looking into EPIC and Resurrection however I want the one that will be receiving updates going forward etc.
Please let me know your thoughts of what you guys are using and why etc.

VulcanX said:
Hey guys,
I am currently running a beta of MIUI EU (it was one of the first original ROMs) however I want something new and stable. If I flash the stable MIUI EU I need to flash it from scratch and delete data, so I might as well see whats out there.
What is the most stable ROM for us currently?
My requirements in a ROM are the below;
- Fingerprint Sensor
- Encryption
- No bloatware
- Stable
- Receives OTA updates
- Good battery management (MIUI actually does a pretty good job of this AFAIK)
I am currently looking into EPIC and Resurrection however I want the one that will be receiving updates going forward etc.
Please let me know your thoughts of what you guys are using and why etc.
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Try FlymeOS, but as some bloatware... There's no Custom ROM with OTA. Only MIUI and FlymeOS

VulcanX said:
Hey guys,
I am currently running a beta of MIUI EU (it was one of the first original ROMs) however I want something new and stable. If I flash the stable MIUI EU I need to flash it from scratch and delete data, so I might as well see whats out there.
What is the most stable ROM for us currently?
My requirements in a ROM are the below;
- Fingerprint Sensor
- Encryption
- No bloatware
- Stable
- Receives OTA updates
- Good battery management (MIUI actually does a pretty good job of this AFAIK)
I am currently looking into EPIC and Resurrection however I want the one that will be receiving updates going forward etc.
Please let me know your thoughts of what you guys are using and why etc.
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Mokee (By Razziel)
Lineage 13(By Jacoghi)
Flyme(By Liberation)

VulcanX said:
Hey guys,
I am currently running a beta of MIUI EU (it was one of the first original ROMs) however I want something new and stable. If I flash the stable MIUI EU I need to flash it from scratch and delete data, so I might as well see whats out there.
What is the most stable ROM for us currently?
My requirements in a ROM are the below;
- Fingerprint Sensor
- Encryption
- No bloatware
- Stable
- Receives OTA updates
- Good battery management (MIUI actually does a pretty good job of this AFAIK)
I am currently looking into EPIC and Resurrection however I want the one that will be receiving updates going forward etc.
Please let me know your thoughts of what you guys are using and why etc.
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Currently the only custom rom that usable is mokee 6 by razziell, but no OTA. Else use xiaomi.eu like your current choice.
All nougat custom rom currently suffer from either fingerprint, gps and camera bug due to lack proper driver from xiaomi. MIUI 9 based on nougat will fix those problems.

dels07 said:
Currently the only custom rom that usable is mokee 6 by razziell, but no OTA. Else use xiaomi.eu like your current choice.
All nougat custom rom currently suffer from either fingerprint, gps and camera bug due to lack proper driver from xiaomi. MIUI 9 based on nougat will fix those problems.
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When you say "the only custom rom that (is) usable", are you taking into account the latest unofficial lineage os 13 by Jacoghi? I'm referring to lineage-13.0-20170506-UNOFFICIAL-markw that isn't available on Xda, but only on Bruno Coghi's YouTube channel.
It has everything working and covers all the items on that checklist, except for OTA updates.
It's my daily driver and it works great.

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lineage-13.0-20170506-UNOFFICIAL-markw
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I guess it is already unusable on the sole ground that is hasn't June security patches.
Does 20170506 mean 2017-June-5 or 2017-May-6?

adefigo said:
I guess it is already unusable on the sole ground that is hasn't June security patches.
Does 20170506 mean 2017-June-5 or 2017-May-6?
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If you go by that criteria, then probably 99% of all Android devices are unusable...
What you probably mean is that it is not the best case scenario. But there's a huge difference between not the best and unusable. And having just the May security updates, although not absolutely great, is still pretty good.
Sure I'd love if the dev kept releasing updates, but i think my device is pretty safe for the time being.

go for Epic, you wont disappointed

mnbpt said:
probably 99% of all Android devices are unusable...
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:good: yes!

Thanks for all the replies. I am really torn between them now. The Miui EU stable offers a lot, but it's still bloated like anything and will prob run very heavy like the current one I'm running.
If I opt for something else no OTA and some features will be broken.
Hmmm

VulcanX said:
Thanks for all the replies. I am really torn between them now. The Miui EU stable offers a lot, but it's still bloated like anything and will prob run very heavy like the current one I'm running.
If I opt for something else no OTA and some features will be broken.
Hmmm
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WTF? does it even make sense the thing you're saying? "If I opt for something else no OTA and some features will be broken"?! Just try something yourself, watch reviews of the ROMs that exist for our device and choose yourself the one that you think that attracts you the most

mnbpt said:
When you say "the only custom rom that (is) usable", are you taking into account the latest unofficial lineage os 13 by Jacoghi? I'm referring to lineage-13.0-20170506-UNOFFICIAL-markw that isn't available on Xda, but only on Bruno Coghi's YouTube channel.
It has everything working and covers all the items on that checklist, except for OTA updates.
It's my daily driver and it works great.
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High accuracy gps still drain battery faster than on Razziell mokee rom. Also Razziell rom more updated since jacoghi shift development to nougat.

psykkuno said:
WTF? does it even make sense the thing you're saying? "If I opt for something else no OTA and some features will be broken"?! Just try something yourself, watch reviews of the ROMs that exist for our device and choose yourself the one that you think that attracts you the most
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Yeah so what Im saying, is it worthwhile using something that maybe I sacrifice the OTA but the rest is absolutely amazing, or stick with something a bit heavier but it has the OTA ie. MIUI EU Stable.
I use my phone for work so I cant really be messing around with something that isnt pretty stable and reliable you know.

VulcanX said:
Yeah so what Im saying, is it worthwhile using something that maybe I sacrifice the OTA but the rest is absolutely amazing, or stick with something a bit heavier but it has the OTA ie. MIUI EU Stable.
I use my phone for work so I cant really be messing around with something that isnt pretty stable and reliable you know.
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Personally I have never ever used OTA, and can't really understand the requirement of a ROM to have it.
There are a lot of stable ROMs out there. Mokee, Lineage OS 13, and I'm currently using AOKP with no issues.
If you want something more like stock try Epic ROM.
Else just use MIUI EU Stable.

I tried a few roms. Epic seems steady for work n battery.
Think it's about half the weight of global about 900 mb approx.
I get nearly 4 days if phone was in ideal.
17.5 hrs sot strong WiFi, screen 20% no sim..
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Idel#
Sent from my Redmi 4 using XDA-Developers Legacy app

DISASTER .....i installed
1. PACK_TWRP_MrRaines-Thematized_Anik_Khan's_Recovery_And_Unlock_Bootloader_Tools ==== OK
2. epic_kenzo_global_V8.5.3.0_6.0.1_aroma ====== after is ask me to reboot ........ BLACK SCREEN ....... and NO system , NO fastboot , NO recovery mode , NO battery charge , NO Miflash with original ROM , NOTHING to DO at a ENDLESS BLACK SCREEN
3. solution ?????!!!! i will try to leave it all night to charge (even if epic OS was installed at 60 % of battery) ....maybe in the morning something miraculously happend ...... otherwise i'm afraid that it will be declared as a bricked REDMI 4 Prime.
i am opened to any other solution .....please

dllungu said:
DISASTER .....i installed
1. PACK_TWRP_MrRaines-Thematized_Anik_Khan's_Recovery_And_Unlock_Bootloader_Tools ==== OK
2. epic_kenzo_global_V8.5.3.0_6.0.1_aroma ====== after is ask me to reboot ........ BLACK SCREEN ....... and NO system , NO fastboot , NO recovery mode , NO battery charge , NO Miflash with original ROM , NOTHING to DO at a ENDLESS BLACK SCREEN
3. solution ?????!!!! i will try to leave it all night to charge (even if epic OS was installed at 60 % of battery) ....maybe in the morning something miraculously happend ...... otherwise i'm afraid that it will be declared as a bricked REDMI 4 Prime.
i am opened to any other solution .....please
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I think you flashed the wrong Rom,Kenzo is redmi Note 3 or something like that but not r4p

dllungu said:
DISASTER .....i installed
1. PACK_TWRP_MrRaines-Thematized_Anik_Khan's_Recovery_And_Unlock_Bootloader_Tools ==== OK
2. epic_kenzo_global_V8.5.3.0_6.0.1_aroma ====== after is ask me to reboot ........ BLACK SCREEN ....... and NO system , NO fastboot , NO recovery mode , NO battery charge , NO Miflash with original ROM , NOTHING to DO at a ENDLESS BLACK SCREEN
3. solution ?????!!!! i will try to leave it all night to charge (even if epic OS was installed at 60 % of battery) ....maybe in the morning something miraculously happend ...... otherwise i'm afraid that it will be declared as a bricked REDMI 4 Prime.
i am opened to any other solution .....please
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Wrong ROM:
Kenzo=Redmi note 3 pro
Markw=Redmi 4 Pro

N1ck474 said:
Wrong ROM:
Kenzo=Redmi note 3 pro
Markw=Redmi 4 Pro
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thank you for your answer
a saw answers into forums that kenzo rom it has been recomanded to be installed on Redmi 4 Pro also , that way i give it a try (even if i have already CM 14.1 ready for it) .... it is late anyway ... so now i search solutions to restore any functional rom on it .... but this black screen it gives me realy headache .....( As if you were working with your eyes closed )

dllungu said:
thank you for your answer
a saw answers into forums that kenzo rom it has been recomanded to be installed on Redmi 4 Pro also , that way i give it a try (even if i have already CM 14.1 ready for it) .... it is late anyway ... so now i search solutions to restore any functional rom on it .... but this black screen it gives me realy headache .....( As if you were working with your eyes closed )
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Are you able to use fastboot? If not then you bricked your device, either deep flash cable or test point could bring back your device. Never trust someone to flash rom to your device before you do research on the rom, kenzo and markw is different device and have different SOC.
It only make sense if you try to flash mido (Redmi Note 4) rom since they have same SOC, but don't try this. Only flash rom that are build for markw.

Is an Android Oreo 8.1 ROM being planned for Moto e4?

I would like it if a developer like nayan deka or amarc78 would provide an Android Oreo (8.1, NOT 8.0) custom ROM for the Moto E4 (Qualcomm), like a RR-O, Pixel Experience 8.1, Lineage OS 15.1, or AICP 13.1.
Any of those would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your consideration.

I'd really like that too! I'm really disappointed with Motorola lately. Ever since Lenovo bought them it's been downhill. I know the E4 is a budget phone, but come on Moto, just one major update, please?

Its under construction,,,also place this thread in Q&A section

It's a WIP currently, not to mention a lot of Oreo ROM sources such as Dot, MoonOS, etc. are still WIP too. We'll try when we can ^.^

nayan deka said:
Its under construction,,,also place this thread in Q&A section
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Ok. Question: if you were to take a Lineage OS 15 ROM, and port it for the e4, approximately how long would it take to successfully port it?

Scholeggo said:
Ok. Question: if you were to take a Lineage OS 15 ROM, and port it for the e4, approximately how long would it take to successfully port it?
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We try not to ask for eta here. It's actually against the rules. Besides, it's not a matter of porting. It's about creating a device tree for Oreo for this device. That is pretty involved, and there are folks working on it. Sit tight, and try not to ask for eta, it kinda rude. It will happen when it happens. Remember, we don't even have ANY official nougat ROMs yet.

madbat99 said:
We try not to ask for eta here. It's actually against the rules. Besides, it's not a matter of porting. It's about creating a device tree for Oreo for this device. That is pretty involved, and there are folks working on it. Sit tight, and try not to ask for eta, it kinda rude. It will happen when it happens. Remember, we don't even have ANY official nougat ROMs yet.
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I applied for maintainership of DotOS, once Oreo trees are up and LTE is patched into the trees for it to work without flashing anything then there's a chance Dot will be official. I'm also in the process of applying to have crDroid official for the Perry and also the Falcon. Seems like a few ROM sources are waiting for Oreo builds for devices before bringing on maintainers now that Oreo seems to be the main focus of development

fireball0093 said:
I applied for maintainership of DotOS, once Oreo trees are up and LTE is patched into the trees for it to work without flashing anything then there's a chance Dot will be official. I'm also in the process of applying to have crDroid official for the Perry and also the Falcon. Seems like a few ROM sources are waiting for Oreo builds for devices before bringing on maintainers now that Oreo seems to be the main focus of development
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Yeah I've been following that too. But he still deserves a slap on the wrist for asking for an ETA. Lol

Scholeggo said:
Ok. Question: if you were to take a Lineage OS 15 ROM, and port it for the e4, approximately how long would it take to successfully port it?
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No ETA buddy

Scholeggo said:
I would like it if a developer like nayan deka or amarc78 would provide an Android Oreo (8.1, NOT 8.0) custom ROM for the Moto E4 (Qualcomm), like a RR-O, Pixel Experience 8.1, Lineage OS 15.1, or AICP 13.1.
Any of those would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your consideration.
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Did this really need a request? Oreo (wait...only 8.1; none of that 8.0 crap) will come when prerequisites are in place and the *volunteer* ROM maintainers have time to address. Until then you'll need to 'suffer' through one of the numerous Nougat based alternatives...including stable, fully featured stock. Toss in Xposed framework and a couple modules and you have everything Oreo brings to the table.

madbat99 said:
We try not to ask for eta here. It's actually against the rules. Besides, it's not a matter of porting. It's about creating a device tree for Oreo for this device. That is pretty involved, and there are folks working on it. Sit tight, and try not to ask for eta, it kinda rude. It will happen when it happens. Remember, we don't even have ANY official nougat ROMs yet.
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nayan deka said:
No ETA buddy
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madbat99 said:
he still deserves a slap on the wrist for asking for an ETA. Lol
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Sorry, guys. I'm a newb here; didn't know that was illegal.
fireball0093 said:
I applied for maintainership of DotOS, once Oreo trees are up and LTE is patched into the trees for it to work without flashing anything then there's a chance Dot will be official. I'm also in the process of applying to have crDroid official for the Perry and also the Falcon. Seems like a few ROM sources are waiting for Oreo builds for devices before bringing on maintainers now that Oreo seems to be the main focus of development
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Nice. Can't wait!

Scholeggo said:
Sorry, guys. I'm a newb here; didn't know that was illegal.
Nice. Can't wait!
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no problem mate

Scholeggo said:
Sorry, guys. I'm a newb here; didn't know that was illegal.
Nice. Can't wait!
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It's all good, I was the same when I first joined xD If you have any other questions that aren't quite allowed here and also for the occasional test build/test Kernel, feel free to join the Telegram group we have. The link is in my signature for quick reference

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It's all good, I was the same when I first joined xD If you have any other questions that aren't quite allowed here and also for the occasional test build/test Kernel, feel free to join the Telegram group we have. The link is in my signature for quick reference
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Any testing builds in the Google+ group?

Well, with Lineage OS 15.1 now out in the wild, I can't wait to see it being ported to the E4 soon.
I chose to watch the e4, because of all the phones shown in MetroPCS free offer deal (gonna switch from Sprint soon), the E4 looked more like it could take Lineage OS 15.1. I looked for even LOS 14.1 ROMs, and not one of these phones could provide me with an accurate result, except the e4.
Question: with all these ROMs now developing from Lineage OS 15.1, which ROM would you recommend I flash when I get the phone? RR, AICP, AEX, DotOS, or plain ol' Lineage?
I'd like it if one of the LOS 15.1 developers for the E4 were to make their builds official. It could really help with OTAs.

Scholeggo said:
Well, with Lineage OS 15.1 now out in the wild, I can't wait to see it being ported to the E4 soon.
I chose to watch the e4, because of all the phones shown in MetroPCS free offer deal (gonna switch from Sprint soon), the E4 looked more like it could take Lineage OS 15.1. I looked for even LOS 14.1 ROMs, and not one of these phones could provide me with an accurate result, except the e4.
Question: with all these ROMs now developing from Lineage OS 15.1, which ROM would you recommend I flash when I get the phone? RR, AICP, AEX, DotOS, or plain ol' Lineage?
I'd like it if one of the LOS 15.1 developers for the E4 were to make their builds official. It could really help with OTAs.
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Dude, it's more involved than you think to make rom official. You don't get to just "make" it official. LineageOS has very strict criteria for it becoming official (especially since 15). Just relax. We're still waiting for an Oreo common tree to be made. All of the nougat ROMs work fine on the metro e4.
It could be weeks before we see anything Oreo related. Maybe you should try learning to build something. You'll see what it takes for an official build. You have to have everything functioning, apply for maintainership, have it reviewed, be responsible for building it weekly, making sure everything stays functioning with every update, etc. Etc.
The roms that are available now are great. These guys do it in their spair time, because they like it.

Scholeggo said:
Well, with Lineage OS 15.1 now out in the wild, I can't wait to see it being ported to the E4 soon.
I chose to watch the e4, because of all the phones shown in MetroPCS free offer deal (gonna switch from Sprint soon), the E4 looked more like it could take Lineage OS 15.1. I looked for even LOS 14.1 ROMs, and not one of these phones could provide me with an accurate result, except the e4.
Question: with all these ROMs now developing from Lineage OS 15.1, which ROM would you recommend I flash when I get the phone? RR, AICP, AEX, DotOS, or plain ol' Lineage?
I'd like it if one of the LOS 15.1 developers for the E4 were to make their builds official. It could really help with OTAs.
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madbat99 said:
Dude, it's more involved than you think to make rom official. You don't get to just "make" it official. LineageOS has very strict criteria for it becoming official (especially since 15). Just relax. We're still waiting for an Oreo common tree to be made. All of the nougat ROMs work fine on the metro e4.
It could be weeks before we see anything Oreo related. Maybe you should try learning to build something. You'll see what it takes for an official build. You have to have everything functioning, apply for maintainership, have it reviewed, be responsible for building it weekly, making sure everything stays functioning with every update, etc. Etc.
The roms that are available now are great. These guys do it in their spair time, because they like it.
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With Lineage 15.1 for the E4, it's likely similar to how it is with the Moto G4 Play I also have. Only Squid can have Official LOS 15.1 on the Harpia, it'll probably be the same with the Perry especially since he does a lot on the device tree side of things. Plus most devs create ROMs they'd use such as myself (not everyone of course). I'm personally only unofficially maintaining the ROMs I'd personally use and there's no guarantee that I'll be able to become an official maintainer either in the future, it's all up to the ROM source maintainers and also almost every little thing has to be working flawlessly and there's still a few things that need to be worked on for Nougat. I do understand the excitement for a new Android release in the custom rom world, trust me I can't wait to get Oreo running on the E4 after using it on my G4P and I was hella excited for Lollipop on my old Nexus 4 years ago, however after developing I've more than learned it does take time. Madbat's right too, there are a good bit of custom Nougat roms out that will do the job for now and he's also right that it takes a lot to become a maintainer. As for which rom to recommend, all I gotta say is flash a few Nougat roms and experiment with them to see what suits your preferences the most. I might recommend Slim7 or Dot, and you might end up not liking them and like something entirely different. It'll come. Might be a few weeks, might be a month or two from now at least. But I tell you what as soon as trees are all up, expect Dot, MoonOS and possibly SlimROM. I have absolutely no ETA at this point either, just going with the flow right now ^.^

Ok. I heard from recent MetroPCS customers that the battery isn't the best, calls get hung up (and reception isn't good), and multitasking isn't great, there can be some network issues, and unfortunately, a bit more here.
If I were to buy the phone, and flash a one of the Nougat ROMs available, how would they improve the phone, concerning these problems found on the stock ROM? And how good was the gameplay for AR games like Pokemon Go, and graphic-demanding games, like Asphalt 8?

Scholeggo said:
Ok. I heard from recent MetroPCS customers that the battery isn't the best, calls get hung up (and reception isn't good), and multitasking isn't great, there can be some network issues, and unfortunately, a bit more here.
If I were to buy the phone, and flash a one of the Nougat ROMs available, how would they improve the phone, concerning these problems found on the stock ROM? And how good was the gameplay for AR games like Pokemon Go, and graphic-demanding games, like Asphalt 8?
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It's a budget phone. It is what it is. I can say from experience, battery life and multitasking are just fine. Reception depends on location. Metro has a pretty big network, and they merged with t mobile.
It's one of the best budget devices around.

madbat99 said:
It's a budget phone. It is what it is. I can say from experience, battery life and multitasking are just fine. Reception depends on location. Metro has a pretty big network, and they merged with t mobile.
It's one of the best budget devices around.
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Ok. How were the high-end graphics games?

Moto G5 plus (32/2) with Pixel Experience ROM, very slow and laggy

I was on stock and phone was very slow and laggy. I have the 32 gb / 2 gb variant. I loaded Pixel Experience ROM, and it was working well at first ,but it is slow and laggy again. I'm wondering if it is some combination of apps I have installed or just due to having only 2gb of RAM.
Here is a list of apps I have installed:
AfterShip
com.aftership.AfterShip
Aldiko
com.aldiko.android
Amazon Shopping
com.amazon.mShop.android.shopping
Android Auto
com.google.android.projection.gearhead
Android TV
com.google.android.tv.remote
Aurelio's Pizza
com.punchh.aurelios
Authenticator
com.google.android.apps.authenticator2
Baby Manager
innmov.babymanager
Baby Pics
com.burleighlabs.babypics
Belly
com.bellyflop.android
Bitmoji
com.bitstrips.imoji
Blue Apron
com.blueapron.blueapron.release
Budget Bytes
com.sidechef.sidechef.partner.budgetbytes
Camera
com.google.android.GoogleCameraSan
Camera FV-5
com.flavionet.android.camera.pro
CamScanner
com.intsig.camscanner
CamScanner Full Version
com.intsig.lic.camscanner
Carrier Services
com.google.android.ims
Cartwheel
com.target.socsav
Chase
com.chase.sig.android
Chewy
com.chewy.android
Cinema FV-5
com.flavionet.android.cinema.pro
Cinnamon
com.imdevgary.cinnamon
Cloud Print
com.google.android.apps.cloudprint
Data Transfer Tool
com.google.android.apps.pixelmigrate
Daylio
net.daylio
Docs
com.google.android.apps.docs.editors.docs
Drive
com.google.android.apps.docs
Drive Safe & Save
com.statefarm.dssm
Dropbox
com.dropbox.android
Duo
com.google.android.apps.tachyon
Duo Mobile
com.duosecurity.duomobile
eBay
com.ebay.mobile
ecobee
com.ecobee.athenamobile
Evernote
com.evernote
Exchange Services
com.google.android.gm.exchange
Fidelity
com.fidelity.android
Fit
com.google.android.apps.fitness
Flyperlink
com.flyperinc.flyperlink
FreeDCam
troop.com.freedcam
Friendly
io.friendly
Gap
com.skava.hybridapp.gap
Gmail
com.google.android.gm
Goodreads
com.goodreads
Google Opinion Rewards
com.google.android.apps.paidtasks
Google Pay
com.google.android.apps.walletnfcrel
Google Play Books
com.google.android.apps.books
Google Play Games
com.google.android.play.games
Google Play Movies & TV
com.google.android.videos
Google Play Music
com.google.android.music
Google+
com.google.android.apps.plus
GroupMe
com.groupme.android
Hangouts
com.google.android.talk
Hangouts Dialer
com.google.android.apps.hangoutsdialer
Home
com.google.android.apps.chromecast.app
Hue
com.philips.lighting.hue2
Hue Pro
com.benchevoor.huepro
Instagram
com.instagram.android
Keep Notes
com.google.android.keep
Kernel Adiutor
com.grarak.kerneladiutor
Kroger
com.kroger.mobile
Lightning
acr.browser.lightning
List My Apps
de.onyxbits.listmyapps
Lyft
me.lyft.android
Magisk Manager
com.topjohnwu.magisk
Maps
com.google.android.apps.maps
Medscape
com.medscape.android
Mi Fit
com.xiaomi.hm.health
Mint
com.mint
MPR Radio
org.americanpublicmedia.publicradio
MyChart
epic.mychart.android
Netflix
com.netflix.mediaclient
Nine
com.ninefolders.hd3
Nova Launcher
com.teslacoilsw.launcher
OpenTable
com.opentable
ParkChicago
com.passportparking.mobile.parkchicago
ParkMobile
net.sharewire.parkmobilev2
PayPal
com.paypal.android.p2pmobile
Pinterest
com.pinterest
PlayMemories Mobile
com.sony.playmemories.mobile
Plex
com.plexapp.android
Pocket Casts
au.com.shiftyjelly.pocketcasts
PowerMic Mobile
com.Nuance.Mobility.DMic.Live
QGenda
com.qgenda.mobile
Redfin
com.redfin.android
Root Checker Basic
com.joeykrim.rootcheck
Seafood Watch
org.montereybayaquarium.seafoodwatch
Sheets
com.google.android.apps.docs.editors.sheets
Slides
com.google.android.apps.docs.editors.slides
Snapchat
com.snapchat.android
Snapseed
com.niksoftware.snapseed
Solid Explorer
pl.solidexplorer2
Speedtest
org.zwanoo.android.speedtest
SpotHero
com.spothero.spothero
Swipe
com.happening.studios.swipeforfacebookfree
Tadpoles Parent
com.tadpoles.parent
Target
com.target.ui
Telegram
org.telegram.messenger
Terminal Emulator
jackpal.androidterm
thredUP
com.thredup.android
Tinybeans
com.tinybeans
Translate
com.google.android.apps.translate
Trusted Contacts
com.google.android.apps.emergencyassist
Uber
com.ubercab
Vagaro
com.vagaro
Vanguard
com.vanguard
Venmo
com.venmo
Ventra
com.ventrachicago.riderapp
VLC
org.videolan.vlc
Voice
com.google.android.apps.googlevoice
Wave
wave.paperworld.wallpaper
Wayfair
com.wayfair.wayfair
Waze
com.waze
WBEZ
com.wbez.app
Weather
com.samruston.weather
Web Video Caster
com.instantbits.cast.webvideo
WhatsApp
com.whatsapp
WhatsApp Wallpaper
com.whatsapp.wallpaper
Yelp
com.yelp.android
YouTube
com.google.android.youtube
YouTube Music
com.google.android.apps.youtube.music
Zillow
com.zillow.android.zillowmap

I have the same variant as you, and honestly, I haven't had any Pie based ROM run all that well. Even fresh installs seem to have issues with opening apps. They can take a couple of seconds to open, and sometimes just give up entirely and crash back to the launcher.

Mixikins said:
I have the same variant as you, and honestly, I haven't had any Pie based ROM run all that well. Even fresh installs seem to have issues with opening apps. They can take a couple of seconds to open, and sometimes just give up entirely and crash back to the launcher.
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Thanks for the reply. That is unfortunate but good to know. Do you know of any non Pie based ROMs that work well?

infinitehero said:
Thanks for the reply. That is unfortunate but good to know. Do you know of any non Pie based ROMs that work well?
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I've never had issues with anything Oreo. I was using an Oreo based ROM as a daily driver for a long while before the official 8.1 update came out.

Mixikins said:
I've never had issues with anything Oreo. I was using an Oreo based ROM as a daily driver for a long while before the official 8.1 update came out.
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So a little update. After answering your post, I tried PixysOS this evening (Along with MindTheGApps, but that might not be important), and it seems to not have had any of the issues I experienced on the other Pie ROMs I gave up on. I am gonna leave it on my phone through tomorrow, and see if it's good as a daily driver. I have high hopes for it so far.

Mixikins said:
So a little update. After answering your post, I tried PixysOS this evening (Along with MindTheGApps, but that might not be important), and it seems to not have had any of the issues I experienced on the other Pie ROMs I gave up on. I am gonna leave it on my phone through tomorrow, and see if it's good as a daily driver. I have high hopes for it so far.
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Great, thanks for the update. I hope it works. If you don't mind, let me know how it goes. I might give it a shot loading it up this weekend.

Hi, I have the same variant (xt1680) and I was running ArrowOS (PIE) "reasonably" well (never tried games though) but it's usable for the daily driver. I've read that crDroid is the one that works best with our Potter variant but I couldn't try PIE version because it doesn't work with encrypted data partition (and for risk/benefit, I'm not going to decrypt).
I went back to Stock Oreo, the one with aroma installer found in some other thread. It works best than all the others.
PS: Another one that I've tried months ago was AEX Oreo, I got the best performance with this rom and also great preinstalled configuration...but it was abandoned

blondi3 said:
Hi, I have the same variant (xt1680) and I was running ArrowOS (PIE) "reasonably" well (never tried games though) but it's usable for the daily driver. I've read that crDroid is the one that works best with our Potter variant but I couldn't try PIE version because it doesn't work with encrypted data partition (and for risk/benefit, I'm not going to decrypt).
I went back to Stock Oreo, the one with aroma installer found in some other thread. It works best than all the others.
PS: Another one that I've tried months ago was AEX Oreo, I got the best performance with this rom and also great preinstalled configuration...but it was abandoned
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Thanks for all the info. Is this the ROM with aroma installer that you mentioned?

infinitehero said:
Thanks for all the info. Is this the ROM with aroma installer that you mentioned?
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Yes Sr. That's the one. Latest has the Feb 2019 security patch :good:

Which version are you running?
I'm currently on PE by GtrCraft, CAF variant with latest Drunk kernel.
Works flawlessly.

lpulido said:
Which version are you running?
I'm currently on PE by GtrCraft, CAF variant with latest Drunk kernel.
Works flawlessly.
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I'm on PE by GtrCraft, but not the CAF variant. I don't know what CAF means. Edit: Just found this thread about it. Seems like I should try CAF as well. I wonder if I can flash the CAF version over the current AOSP version I have running now.
Does the Drunk kernel make a big difference? Should I give that a shot before flashing stock?

infinitehero said:
I'm on PE by GtrCraft, but not the CAF variant. I don't know what CAF means. Edit: Just found this thread about it. Seems like I should try CAF as well. I wonder if I can flash the CAF version over the current AOSP version I have running now.
Does the Drunk kernel make a big difference? Should I give that a shot before flashing stock?
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CAF is supposed to run better on qualcomm chipsets, so I decided to give it a try.
Drunk kernel comes within this rom, but a new version came out on 25-03 and ROM's latest update was on 12-03.
Maybe you can flash everything together, but I did it like this:
1 - Flash rom, boot system.
2 - Flash kernel's latest version, boot system again.
3 - Flash magisk if you want root.

hello, I also have the 32/2 variant, I have android 8.1 oreo stock, bootloader unlocked and root with magisk. my question is:
I go for a custom rom 9.0, or do I stay in stock 8.1?
Thank you

infinitehero said:
Great, thanks for the update. I hope it works. If you don't mind, let me know how it goes. I might give it a shot loading it up this weekend.
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Sorry I didn't reply so soon, I ended up spending the weekend with it. Overall, it was the best performing Pie ROM I have used to date. The battery life is a little bit worse than stock, but still good enough for me to make it through a day with minimal need to top off. My biggest concern, and what made me eventually go back to stop is that it has to kill background tasks a lot. If I switched through enough of my chat apps, I'd eventually lose my now playing music, or in progress Maps navigation. If you're not a heavy app user, or not constantly switching between them, I'd say the experience was well enough. If you have the spare time, and make a full backup beforehand, I'd say it's worth a try, as your experience as a user might be a bit different from mine.

Thank you everyone for all the input, it was definitely helpful.
After much tinkering and testing this past weekend here are some things I found.
Lux seemed to be slowing my phone down quite a bit, so I am no longer using that.
My entire device was encrypted. This may have been slowing it down a bit also. Switching ROMs with encryption enabled was a small road block. At first the newly flashed OS wouldn't work (was stuck at boot animation). I had to format and wipe all the partitions, then flash the ROM.
I ended up liking Pixel Experience the best of the different ROMs I tested. I am on the latest version, with magisk root. Since I had to format and wipe, I flashed the aroma stock rom first (linked in one of my previous posts), then the pixel experience rom, then magisk.
So far things are running well, much quicker/snappier than last week. We will see how it holds up over time. I may post again in a month or so since it seems like the lagginess can slowly build over time.

Casper1982 said:
hello, I also have the 32/2 variant, I have android 8.1 oreo stock, bootloader unlocked and root with magisk. my question is:
I go for a custom rom 9.0, or do I stay in stock 8.1?
Thank you
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In my opinion, just stick with Stock Oreo. It has the best performance/battery ratio than all the other custom roms in our 32/2 variant (with exception of PE Oreo, but was abandoned).
I didn't find any sensible improvement or feature in PIE that makes me unencrypt my phone, making it unsafe to carry on the streets. What's more, most of the maintainers of the Potter known custom roms are students from India, which have the 64/4 GB version so no rom targets our 32/2 GB model (at least no rom I know of)
You will also get a worse camera, unless you install gcam of course, but it happen that its unstable and more with 2GB ram. Maybe you can get better pics with this one when you don't have a force-close, very laggy, and you'll have to tweak with Kernel Adiutor to reduce the number of sudden closes this app has.
Good luck!
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infinitehero said:
Thank you everyone for all the input, it was definitely helpful.
After much tinkering and testing this past weekend here are some things I found.
Lux seemed to be slowing my phone down quite a bit, so I am no longer using that.
My entire device was encrypted. This may have been slowing it down a bit also. Switching ROMs with encryption enabled was a small road block. At first the newly flashed OS wouldn't work (was stuck at boot animation). I had to format and wipe all the partitions, then flash the ROM.
I ended up liking Pixel Experience the best of the different ROMs I tested. I am on the latest version, with magisk root. Since I had to format and wipe, I flashed the aroma stock rom first (linked in one of my previous posts), then the pixel experience rom, then magisk.
So far things are running well, much quicker/snappier than last week. We will see how it holds up over time. I may post again in a month or so since it seems like the lagginess can slowly build over time.
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Good luck! And tell us how it goes! :good:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/sh...ter-9.0-20190329-1038-UNOFFICIAL.zip/download
Probá con esa ROM es la q mejor m anduvo en la versión 2/32 GB

Any way to remain on stock, but get the security updates?

I've use ROMs in the past, but never with the Essential phone. In fact my phone has run so well, I've never even factory reset it a single time, let alone put a ROM on it. But with Essential gone, I need a way to keep my phone secure.
I'm wondering what the best way to keep stock android (nothing wrong with stock) but allow myself to get the latest android updates as they come out. In looking at the ROMs there still seems to be some issues with bugs, and since this phone is my daily driver, I'd like it to be as stable as possible.
So is there:
1) A way to get the PH-1 on stock, but still get the important security updates somehow?
2) A rom available (even if android 9) that works for PH-1 that would be super stable but also get all new security updates?
Thanks in advance for any help.

holodude said:
I've use ROMs in the past, but never with the Essential phone. In fact my phone has run so well, I've never even factory reset it a single time, let alone put a ROM on it. But with Essential gone, I need a way to keep my phone secure.
I'm wondering what the best way to keep stock android (nothing wrong with stock) but allow myself to get the latest android updates as they come out. In looking at the ROMs there still seems to be some issues with bugs, and since this phone is my daily driver, I'd like it to be as stable as possible.
So is there:
1) A way to get the PH-1 on stock, but still get the important security updates somehow?
2) A rom available (even if android 9) that works for PH-1 that would be super stable but also get all new security updates?
Thanks in advance for any help.
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Don't want to be rude, but here's the answer:
1. None
2. None

chanh2018 said:
Don't want to be rude, but here's the answer:
1. None
2. None
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I could have sworn I saw something that basically said you can download the latest stock version (that includes security updates) and flash it every time there is a new update. But I guess I could have misunderstood?

holodude said:
I could have sworn I saw something that basically said you can download the latest stock version (that includes security updates) and flash it every time there is a new update. But I guess I could have misunderstood?
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That was the case until Essential went out of business - you could do OTA updates, or download and flash yourself. The stock security updates were only provided by Essential, and the Feb 2020 update was the last one for this phone...

holodude said:
I could have sworn I saw something that basically said you can download the latest stock version (that includes security updates) and flash it every time there is a new update. But I guess I could have misunderstood?
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You are correct: Android GSI. Info >here<

aleph23 said:
Android GSI
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And how would that be "remaining on stock", as per the OP?

holodude said:
I could have sworn I saw something that basically said you can download the latest stock version (that includes security updates) and flash it every time there is a new update. But I guess I could have misunderstood?
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No way to stay on stock & get security updates (well you will get some direct from Google ie the Google Play System Update, the last one shown lower down this page
https://source.android.com/security/bulletin/2020-03-01
and can be found in your settings under security, but its only a fraction of patches)
That means your best option is probably the Android 11 GSI when it's out of Developer Preview in a July (?) and hope it's bug free, else Lineage etc .... not that you want custom roms, sorry.

IronRoo said:
No way to stay on stock & get security updates (well you will get some direct from Google ie the Google Play System Update, the last one shown lower down this page
https://source.android.com/security/bulletin/2020-03-01
and can be found in your settings under security, but its only a fraction of patches)
That means your best option is probably the Android 11 GSI when it's out of Developer Preview in a July (?) and hope it's bug free, else Lineage etc .... not that you want custom roms, sorry.
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Basically I'm looking for something safe and stable, whether it is ROM or otherwise. Right now I'm stable, but not safe. So you think my best bet is move to Lineage (to become safe) and then switch to the GSI when it is out of developer preview (and stable)?

From what I have read and asked here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/essential-phone/development/rom-evolution-x-4-1-69-t4073153
This ROM will give you what you are asking for as far as regular security updates are concerned. I have been waiting for Lineage to release an "OFFICIAL" version of Android 10 for our PH-1's but so far nothing. Also I would not mind going on Android 11 but then I do not think that will get monthly security updates either so I am thinking about trying this Evolution ROM out.... I have never worked with a phone with A/B slots so that is my only concern but after reading all the threads I am starting to understand how that works.
Hope this info helps you out.

holodude said:
Right now I'm stable, but not safe.
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Security updates are overrated. ?

SirDigitalKnight said:
From what I have read and asked here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/essential-phone/development/rom-evolution-x-4-1-69-t4073153
This ROM will give you what you are asking for as far as regular security updates are concerned. I have been waiting for Lineage to release an "OFFICIAL" version of Android 10 for our PH-1's but so far nothing. Also I would not mind going on Android 11 but then I do not think that will get monthly security updates either so I am thinking about trying this Evolution ROM out.... I have never worked with a phone with A/B slots so that is my only concern but after reading all the threads I am starting to understand how that works.
Hope this info helps you out.
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You & your big mouth! ?
https://download.lineageos.org/mata
(actually its been out a while, by the looks of it, but no mention here)
I'm the same boat as you, had hoped to flash LineageOS 17 months ago then move to Android 11 in few months time, guess it's decision time now.
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holodude said:
Basically I'm looking for something safe and stable, whether it is ROM or otherwise. Right now I'm stable, but not safe. So you think my best bet is move to Lineage (to become safe) and then switch to the GSI when it is out of developer preview (and stable)?
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Guess for stability & functionality it would have to be LineageOS.
Looks like May version is ver 17.1 (Android 10), not sure how this compares to previous version re bugs/working functions, but that means previous ver is already a month out of date on security )
edit: see this post also
https://forum.xda-developers.com/es...7-1-essential-ph-1-mata-t4066163/post82606687
Also DO NOT use the Essential USB cable & DO NOT relock boot loader!

SirDigitalKnight said:
From what I have read and asked here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/essential-phone/development/rom-evolution-x-4-1-69-t4073153
This ROM will give you what you are asking for as far as regular security updates are concerned. I have been waiting for Lineage to release an "OFFICIAL" version of Android 10 for our PH-1's but so far nothing. Also I would not mind going on Android 11 but then I do not think that will get monthly security updates either so I am thinking about trying this Evolution ROM out.... I have never worked with a phone with A/B slots so that is my only concern but after reading all the threads I am starting to understand how that works.
Hope this info helps you out.
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I'm on EvoX the only thing tht is not t working very well, is tht if u fast forward or rewind on Netflix ur phone reboots, hopefully fixed next update, but I'm happy with this ROM, the touch lag is almost non existence for some reason, glad they managed to fix tht. Also L1 certification is still there. The 360 camera workes better in this Rom for some reason. The best part is the customization though, so much

IronRoo said:
You & your big mouth!
https://download.lineageos.org/mata
(actually its been out a while, by the looks of it, but no mention here)
I'm the same boat as you, had hoped to flash LineageOS 17 months ago then move to Android 11 in few months time, guess it's decision time now.
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Guess for stability & functionality it would have to be LineageOS.
Looks like May version is ver 17.1 (Android 10), not sure how this compares to previous version re bugs/working functions, but that means previous ver is already a month out of date on security )
edit: see this post also
https://forum.xda-developers.com/es...7-1-essential-ph-1-mata-t4066163/post82606687
Also DO NOT use the Essential USB cable & DO NOT relock boot loader!
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Very strange that no one has started a new thread in the Custom ROM section about this... (This being an official release version of Lineageos 17.1) you would think it would be bigger news? There is still only an Unofficial thread... strange..
Anyway IronRoo let me know what you decide to do and how it goes... I am still on the fence as my PH-1 is currently working perfect on stock 10 but it is of course on the Feb 29th security patch... plus I haven't done a custom ROM install since my LG G5 but I hear it is like riding a bike... lol :silly::fingers-crossed:

SirDigitalKnight said:
Very strange that no one has started a new thread in the Custom ROM section about this... (This being an official release version of Lineageos 17.1) you would think it would be bigger news? There is still only an Unofficial thread... strange..
Anyway IronRoo let me know what you decide to do and how it goes... I am still on the fence as my PH-1 is currently working perfect on stock 10 but it is of course on the Feb 29th security patch... plus I haven't done a custom ROM install since my LG G5 but I hear it is like riding a bike... lol :silly::fingers-crossed:
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For LOS, I think we should wait until their server is back, and few more releases come out.
LineageOS 17.1 for Essential is so new, only couple releases, and still in updating state.

chanh2018 said:
For LOS, I think we should wait until their server is back, and few more releases come out.
LineageOS 17.1 for Essential is so new, only couple releases, and still in updating state.
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Yes, many will agree, though I'm OK with giving it a go but I need to buy a new high quality USB cable as kid damaged my Samsung one and have only a cheap 6" one which I'm not sure I trust to flash without bricking phone.

SirDigitalKnight said:
Very strange that no one has started a new thread in the Custom ROM section about this... (This being an official release version of Lineageos 17.1) you would think it would be bigger news? There is still only an Unofficial thread... strange..
Anyway IronRoo let me know what you decide to do and how it goes... I am still on the fence as my PH-1 is currently working perfect on stock 10 but it is of course on the Feb 29th security patch... plus I haven't done a custom ROM install since my LG G5 but I hear it is like riding a bike... lol :silly::fingers-crossed:
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Just did a quick websearch and a few have tried flashing it reddit and here on the 16 thread, and it's suggested wait for next release (first recovery had issue, but now fixed, but next release of ROM should have a few fixes & Lineage build servers are down so not sure when new release will drop)