Last years all the S and Note versions use to have Sony IMX sensors on Qualcomm version and SLSI (Samsung low quality sensors) on the Exynos version.
I just test a Qualcomm version from China and I was very surprised to discover with Aida64 that Samsung uses the low quality sensors even on this Qualcomm version, only the selfie sensor is IMX from Sony.
I just wonder, in US version with Qualcomm it's the same? Becouse, I really like the IMX sensors vs Samsung ones
Just check it with AIDA64 and let us know pls. Thank You!
Confirmed...slsi on US model.
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Confirmed...slsi on US model.
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You shouldn't call them low quality, Sony is actually quite behind hardware-wise and Samsung is getting rid of it for a reason, you can very well expect the next Pixel to have an ISOCELL sensor too, it would really do wonders with good processing.
Many manufacturers are sourcing these sensors from Samsung, Apple includes them in their latest phones too
But yeah, the only Sony IMX Qualcomm S10s have is the front camera, everything else is a proprietary upgrade.
I have an Exynos and I'm very happy with the rear camera, disappointed with the front one, it's applying a pink-clear effect on skins no matter the settings and I just don't come from a culture obsessed with automatic photo editing to make faces look like plastic, I want total accuracy and I hope they give up on the Asian autophotoshop bull**** with future updates, I don't need that.
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I am trying to establish which is those two is best choice overall, in terms of video recording under various conditions. Primariry day shooting, but also in cases with limited light. The ISOCELL is the one founf in the original S5 (G900F) whilst the Sony sensor has appeared in the latest 805 SnapDragon equipped S5 Plus (G901F). I am aware of the improved performance, due to the revised hardware of the G901F over the older S5, but I am mostly interested in using the phone heavily as a camera shooter.
I have read alot around those two different sensors e.g. here (ISOCELL), here (IMX), here (IMX) and here (ISOCELL vs others). But I am still confused at to which of the two is the best choice, based on what I mentioned above. The G900F or the G901F?
Also, I am aware that it's not all about the sensor, but there are other factors to it too e.g. management software. Since the G900F with the ISOCELL has been around more than the Sony-equipped S5 Plus, I guess it's more 'matured' now. Meaning that there might be some 'room for improvement' for the S5 Plus e.g. future firmware updates. Who knows..
Based on what we got now, Is there any quality review or head to head comparison of just those two sensors that I can draw more conclusions from?
Hello!
I will buy a Note4 but i have dilemma for going on Exinos or Snapdragon because i'm mostly interested in best camera quality i can get?
Does anybody have some experience which one to buy regarding that matter?
TNX!
Exynos version comes with Samsung's own ISOCELL sensor while Snapdragon comes with Sony IMX sensor. Both take outstanding pictures, but exynos version has always been preferred by photographers because the shutter time is up to .4s faster compared to the snapdragon sensor. I've used both and exynos took clearer pixels than snapdragon. (Pictures taken by ISOCELL doesn't pixelate under 60% zoom, while the latter show signs of pixelation under 60%).
In simple terms, exynos wins!
Hi,
I own a Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 Prime, recently, there was a review of this smartphone at DPReview, mainly due to the camera being 13Mpx with Phase Detection Auto Focus, on such a cheap smartphone.
And I was wondering, how can I identify the Camera Sensors on this phone?
There has been a teardown of the phone, and below is the picture of the sensors found:
myfixguide dot com/manual/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Xiaomi-Redmi-Note-2-Teardown-16.jpg
The thing is, this references don't lead to anywhere... I've searched the net for them and found nothing... On Xiaomi's publicity, sometimes the sensor is publicized as being from Samsung or OV (Omnivision), this is never good, as we never know really what is the sensor we have on our phone...
And I've seen my share of Chinese Smartphone manufacturers that say they put sensors from Sony, and then it's Omnivision or Samsung (if your lucky), or else it's "Sunny" or some other small time chinese sensor brand...
What called my attention was, that for a smartphone so "cheap" (base model costs aprox. $125 in China), they put a 13Mpx PDAF sensor on it...
But I'm not sure both Omnivision and Samsung produce sensors with the same specs, also, from the picture below, it looks like the sensor might in fact be from "O-Film", another relatively lesser known sensor brand (check: o-film dot com)
Both sensors seem to have similar codes:
OMI BA 08
OMI 5F 05
So it looks like they might be sourced from the same manufacturer, but looking at the references, I'm afraid if they aren't really a 8Mpx sensor, interpolated to 13Mpx... Because of the "08" in the reference of the back sensor, while the front one has "05" which corresponds to the frontal camera spec of 5Mpx.
Can anyone help me identify the real sensor inside my phone? Thanks for the help !
Type *#*#6484#*#* into Phone, click on Software Version and scroll down. It does say OFilm under both Camera values. At least in my case.
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the sensors are http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/products/cmos-image-sensor/mobile-cis/S5K3M2?ia=217 and http://www.ovt.com/products/sensor.php?id=150
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Type *#*#6484#*#* into Phone, click on Software Version and scroll down. It does say OFilm under both Camera values. At least in my case.
Sent from my Redmi Note 2
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Thanks for the tip !
In my case, I have:
- Back camera: the Sunny made S5K3M2_2ND (probably a clone of the Samsung ISOCELL S5K3M2, maybe this is their 2nd version clone or try...)
- Front camera: the Ofilm OV5670 (a clone of the Omnivision OV5670 probably)
I wonder if these clone brands have as good quality as the original ones...
Been looking on Chinese forums about this topic. I myself don't really care, but it slightly caught my interest. They are saying that the sensor is Samsung's and the camera module is Ofilm's or Sunny's.
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Same here. The picture quality at day rivals those of much more expensive phones and the phone focuses fast enough for me - so the question on whether it's original vs a clone, or whether the PDAF is a real or fake one is purely academical to me. As for how such a "cheap" phone can have such features, it's simple: the companies charge huge margins. Just look at Sony's M5, it's essentially the same phone with more megapixels (though, tbh, not really better image quality) and costs around 500€. You're paying about 300€ just for the brand and pixels.
It's not a clone. Here is one of the links where it is explained what it all means: www.miui.com/thread-2916880-1-1.html
Use Google translate, you'll understand the general meaning. Basically, it's like I wrote in my previous post.
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I'm not saying it is a clone, I'm saying I wouldn't care even if it is.
I was responding to the OP, though.
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I have Sunny cameras (rear & front)
Front camera shot clean pictures in good light condition.
Rear camera is a little bit noise and macros are not perfect (you must stay at least at 10 cm from the subject in order to get a good macro) but autofocus is very fast
The problem is video FPS
I noticed that it drops dramatically in low light condition, from 30 to 22 so shot video lags
And in your?
I noticed that with miui 7 we now have slow motion so somewere around 90fps. ( you have to be in hd not in full hd to get this option).
Before S8 was officially released, I have read "leaks" that the phone supposedly has 1k fps slow motion video recording, because the camera chip was capable of it.
Is the camera module in S8 really capable of that? If so, then do you think Samsung will later introduce the feature, or that maybe someone could create a ROM with such a feature?
I don't think this is the camera, our camera is pretty much the same as last year S7, the 1k FPS is the newest Sony camera that just came out, but I could be wrong, since I can't find reference to camera model with this capability. I think we do have 240FPS max.
Then whats up with all those leaks? I thought they got the specs, so they analyzed the HW and realized it was capable of it, so naturally they expected it in S8. I, of course, could be wrong, but I still thought that maybe Samsung just decided to hide the feature so they could make some great update and act like big heroes bringing amazing updates, like they did with the original galaxy S.
Anyone know if 1000fps is possible on S8's hardware? Really freaking hoped it would be implemented, because the phone wasnt nearly as great as I hoped the S8 will be. Pretty much S7 Edge with less bazel I have an S8+ btw.
You assume every leak is legit? Come on...
Well last I read the sensor in the US model is the same as the upcoming sony Xperia. So in theory maybe. As for the international s8 like mine, it has the same spec sensor but built by someone else and not sony so may not be capable of the same thing.
Here http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Sony-Xperia-XZs-Review_id4351/page/3 Sony XZs with 19MP sensor and sensor has dedicated large frame buffer to store those frames. As far as I know S8 has 12 MP sensor which is just newer model of S7. Also the review says that cam is not so good in low light, not sure if I would want to trade 12 MP sensor we have now, with good low light performance to 19MP sensor with low light performance not as good but with 4x slower slow motion.
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Well last I read the sensor in the US model is the same as the upcoming sony Xperia. So in theory maybe. As for the international s8 like mine, it has the same spec sensor but built by someone else and not sony so may not be capable of the same thing.
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Read wrong.. 19mp in the sony... opps
I am planning to buy the Le Pro 3 x720 and customise it to have a oneplus 3 experience.
The LEx720 and OP3 has the same camera sensor and almost same processor (snapdragon 821 for LEx720 & snapdragon 820 for OP3)
kimovilDOTcom/en/compare/leeco-le-pro-3-6gb-64gb,oneplus-3-6gb-64gb-cn
Yet the x720 camera reviews are less positive in comparison to the OP3. I guess its the processing.
1. So has someone ever tried the Oneplus camera on the LEx720?
apkmirrorDOTcom/apk/oneplus-ltd/oneplus-camera/
2. Is it possible to have some samples comparison please, especially against the google camera?
My alternative choice would be the Meizu M6 Note which boasts the same camera as the HTC U11 and it's working pretty great with its Arcsoft algorithm.
3. Based solely on camera, can the LEx720 deliver a better image quality than the Meizu M6 Note?
I would really appreciate your views.
Thank you all in advance.
I wouldn't say you're guaranteed to get a Sony sensor. Some people here are reporting that their camera isn't working on custom ROMs like Paranoid Android--which means that they have a different camera sensor (I believe custom ROMs for the Pro3 variants are built with Sony drivers, but IDK). The OnePlus 3 camera is miles better than the Pro3 camera simply because OnePlus bothers to put good camera software on their phones. Not iPhone-quality, but definitely up there. When it comes to cameras, software is a lot more important, IMO. That's why the iPhone 6's camera quality holds up today, even though the phone was released in 2014. Name a single Android phone from 2014 with good camera quality today...
You are not guaranteed good camera quality from Chinese phones. Some Chinese brands claim to make this a priority, but reviews don't lie. Now, Camera2 API may improve quality, but it really depends. Camera2 API has done wonders for variants of the Xiaomi Note 4 stuck with the inferior Omnivision sensor. It's done even more for variants with Sony and Samsung sensors. And I expect it does well for the Pro3 too, since the Pro3 has a chipset with good image processing. Do your research. Look around the forum and search for camera mods. See if you like the results or not. Camera2 API requires you to root your phone.
Sorry, but if you want a flagship-worthy camera experience, you either buy an iPhone 7, 8, or X, a Samsung S8 or Note 8, an OP3T or OP5, or a Pixel phone. Pixel phones have the best smartphone cameras in the market right now, especially the Pixel 2, since it has dedicated hardware for it. I can't think of any other phones that take excellent images no matter where you are or what you're doing. With other brands you'll have to either a) make sure there's enough lighting, b) be in the right place at the right time, or c) do a lot of manual post-processing, which ruins image quality.
I'm okay with my x722's image quality. It takes good shots in sunlight. Low-light performance is awful. Pretty typical experience. I don't know which sensor I have, though. I'd have to be rooted to find that out.
The Meizu M6 Note has a better sensor. Even if its camera software is awful, it's bound to be better. LeEco doesn't even try with its camera app, so Meizu has to be better.
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I wouldn't say you're guaranteed to get a Sony sensor. Some people here are reporting that their camera isn't working on custom ROMs like Paranoid Android--which means that they have a different camera sensor (I believe custom ROMs for the Pro3 variants are built with Sony drivers, but IDK). The OnePlus 3 camera is miles better than the Pro3 camera simply because OnePlus bothers to put good camera software on their phones. Not iPhone-quality, but definitely up there. When it comes to cameras, software is a lot more important, IMO. That's why the iPhone 6's camera quality holds up today, even though the phone was released in 2014. Name a single Android phone from 2014 with good camera quality today...
You are not guaranteed good camera quality from Chinese phones. Some Chinese brands claim to make this a priority, but reviews don't lie. Now, Camera2 API may improve quality, but it really depends. Camera2 API has done wonders for variants of the Xiaomi Note 4 stuck with the inferior Omnivision sensor. It's done even more for variants with Sony and Samsung sensors. And I expect it does well for the Pro3 too, since the Pro3 has a chipset with good image processing. Do your research. Look around the forum and search for camera mods. See if you like the results or not. Camera2 API requires you to root your phone.
Sorry, but if you want a flagship-worthy camera experience, you either buy an iPhone 7, 8, or X, a Samsung S8 or Note 8, an OP3T or OP5, or a Pixel phone. Pixel phones have the best smartphone cameras in the market right now, especially the Pixel 2, since it has dedicated hardware for it. I can't think of any other phones that take excellent images no matter where you are or what you're doing. With other brands you'll have to either a) make sure there's enough lighting, b) be in the right place at the right time, or c) do a lot of manual post-processing, which ruins image quality.
I'm okay with my x722's image quality. It takes good shots in sunlight. Low-light performance is awful. Pretty typical experience. I don't know which sensor I have, though. I'd have to be rooted to find that out.
The Meizu M6 Note has a better sensor. Even if its camera software is awful, it's bound to be better. LeEco doesn't even try with its camera app, so Meizu has to be better.
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Different camera sensor? Has there been a case? Doing so would be nightmare for device maintenance and unless it is a large scale company with a model that gets sold huge quantities (Samsung and Apple), it would just be a unnecessary headache without any benefit. Camera not working on certain custom roms does not indicate different sensor. Far from it. A missing or extra line on device tree or even in build.prop would cause it.
It is true that camera sucks on most of Chinese phones. They've got the hardware but unless you're shooting RAW, end result will be very poor.
However, that was the case before Google HDR+ port. That port makes dramatic different. No reason to use OnePlus camera when OnePlus users are rooting for Google HDR+.
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Different camera sensor? Has there been a case? Doing so would be nightmare for device maintenance and unless it is a large scale company with a model that gets sold huge quantities (Samsung and Apple), it would just be a unnecessary headache without any benefit. Camera not working on certain custom roms does not indicate different sensor. Far from it. A missing or extra line on device tree or even in build.prop would cause it.
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Is that so? Sorry, I didn't know that. I thought it strange that the camera would work on ROMs installed on some devices but not others.
It is true that camera sucks on most of Chinese phones. They've got the hardware but unless you're shooting RAW, end result will be very poor.
However, that was the case before Google HDR+ port. That port makes dramatic different. No reason to use OnePlus camera when OnePlus users are rooting for Google HDR+.
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Yeah, Gcam changed everything. Now phones with the worst sensors get decent shots, even at night.