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Redmi 3S - Global version vs Chinise

I have a question about hardware difference between Xiaomi Redmi 3S China version and the Global one.
I thought that the only difference is the EU-plug, but I noticed this item on aliexpress with LTE B20 (800MHz) support.
I asked the seller about it and the seller insists that all of that is true.
Can someone confirm or deny this situation?

zBear said:
I have a question about hardware difference between Xiaomi Redmi 3S China version and the Global one.
I thought that the only difference is the EU-plug, but I noticed this item on aliexpress with LTE B20 (800MHz) support.
I asked the seller about it and the seller insists that all of that is true.
Can someone confirm or deny this situation?
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i don't think that there is any hardware difference
it's one device
the one with global rom , i guess it has the adapter , google services (and play) and some chinese apps removed
if you see here (with google translate)
http://www.mi.com/hk/redmi3s/specs/
you see this table
4G FDD B1/3/4/5/7/8/20
4G TDD B41
3G WCDMA B 1/2/5/8
2G GSM
B 2/3/5/8

kodorevi8ulis said:
if you see here (with google translate)
http://www.mi.com/hk/redmi3s/specs/
you see this table
4G FDD B1/3/4/5/7/8/20
4G TDD B41
3G WCDMA B 1/2/5/8
2G GSM
B 2/3/5/8
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but here you can find another information
4G FDD-LTE B3/B5 TDD-LTE B40
3G WCDMA 900MHz / 2100MHz
2G GSM 900MHz / 1800MHz
you think the software limits the LTE bands?

zBear said:
but here you can find another information
4G FDD-LTE B3/B5 TDD-LTE B40
3G WCDMA 900MHz / 2100MHz
2G GSM 900MHz / 1800MHz
you think the software limits the LTE bands?
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well the only think that i am sure is that as an european is difficult to find the "india" version
(because i know -and can buy from - only chinese stores)
also 2 band for lte is weird so i guess it's just a rom limitation or just incomplete list of specs (because it doesn't matter for India the other bands)
p.s. i don't see roms only for india , i only see china and global roms

Their hardwares should be same.

Charger different
China version don't have Google Play service+bandwidth those stuffs should be different?

so... any more infos about the 800MHz FDD-LTE support ?
anyone tried to unlock the bootloader on a chinese version and flashing a xiaomi.eu multilang rom to see if B20/800 is available ?

This is of great interest to me too. I want to buy two Redmi 3s's, but need B20 as well. If it's as easy as flashing the global/international ROM, it would save me lots of $$. Has anyone tried this and succeeded using B20 on a Chinese 3s?

I bought the international version of Redmi 3s, and the B20/800 is working! Also arrived with official global ROM

Aleks93ts said:
I bought the international version of Redmi 3s, and the B20/800 is working! Also arrived with official global ROM
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of course it works, that's the point of the international version

No it's impossible to enable. The only way is to buy the int. version

If anyone is still interested, I found 3 models of R3S
1. 2016030
Chinese version . Chinese factory ROM, manuals, box and plug.
Most common version on aliexpress.
2016030 frequencies
GSM 850, GSM 900, GSM 1800, GSM1900
UMTS 2100 (B1), UMTS 1900 (B2), UMTS 850 (B5), UMTS 900 (B8)
TD-SCDMA TD-SCDMA 2000 (B34), TD-SCDMA 1900 (B39)
FDD-LTE 2100 (B1), FDD-LTE 1800 (B3), FDD-LTE 2600 (B7)
TD-LTE 2600 (B38), TD-LTE 1900 (B39), TD-LTE 2300 (B40), TD-LTE 2500 (B41)
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2. 2016031
International version with factory global ROM, english manual, box and EU plug
2016031 frequencies
GSM 850, GSM 900, GSM 1800, GSM 1900
UMTS 2100 (B1), UMTS 1900 (B2), UMTS 850 (B5), UMTS 900 (B8)
FDD-LTE 2100 (B1), FDD-LTE 1800 (B3), FDD-LTE 1700/2100 (B4), FDD-LTE 850 (B5), FDD-LTE 2600 (B7), FDD-LTE 900 (B8), FDD-LTE 800 (B20)
TD-LTE 2500 (B41)
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3. 2016032
Indian version.
2016032 frequencies
GSM 900, GSM 1800
UMTS 2100 (B1), UMTS 900 (B8)
FDD-LTE 1800 (B3), FDD-LTE 850 (B5)
TD-LTE 2300 (B40)
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Hi
Thanks for the listing of the models.
How do I know which model I have?
Model 2016030: Critical bands missing: FDD-LTE 900 (B8), FDD-LTE 800 (B20)
Model 2016031: No missing bands
Model 2016032: Critical bands missing: UMTS 850 (B5), LTE 900 (B8), 800 (B20)
Redmi 3S Gold
Android 6.0.1 MMB29M
MIUI Global 8.1.1.0
RAM 3GB
MEM 32 GB
Baseband ENNS_PACK-1.69259.1.69863.2-V036
Kernel 3.18.20-ge45c102

Rrrr said:
How do I know which model I have?
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No. There's should not be and hardware differences until it comes to Mobile Broadband frequencies, but i think this is software dependent. As you flash Global or Chinese you choose frequencies probably. I use Global Stable with Root and some tools and it's just fine.

JakeCherry97 said:
As you flash Global or Chinese you choose frequencies probably
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no, it's not working this way
I've seen some development attempts regarding enabling missing channels, but with no success

zBear said:
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Thank you!
So I have 2016031. If the information I provided above is correct, that means I have all necessary bands for Europe.
The problem is I found different information here:
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Xiaomi: https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/redmi-3s-with-lte-b20-800mhz.33957/
2016030 is 32gb version
2016031 is 16gb version
Both without b20
https://www.frequencycheck.com/mode...i-3s-4g-redmi-3s-dual-sim-td-lte-32gb-2016030
https://www.frequencycheck.com/mode...i-3s-4g-redmi-3s-dual-sim-td-lte-16gb-2016031
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2016031 is 16gb version THIS IS STRANGE RIGHT, I HAVE 32GB VERSION and it is model 2016031
What is correct?
I have model 2016031 with 32Gb - do I have LTE B20 (800) and LTE B8 (900) or not?
I hope someone knows?

Rrrr said:
I have model 2016031 with 32Gb - do I have LTE B20 (800) and LTE B8 (900) or not?
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Yes, you do.
I have the same model and ROM capacity.
Look at my october post, you can find there links to official Xiaomi pages with the band availability information.
There is no information about model numbers there, but it was confirmed by many users.

Thank you for your help!
I see indeed all the bands under specifications.
I am very happy.

Sprint HTC 10 LTE Bands

Does the Sprint HTC 10 have LTE Band 3 (1800mhz)?

zlebors said:
Does the Sprint HTC 10 have LTE Band 3 (1800mhz)?
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The unlocked US 10 has support for the following:
4G LTE (up to 450Mbps)
FDD: Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13, 17, 20, 28, 29, 30
While the Sprint variant has support for
B2 (1900 PCS) LTE
B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1) LTE
B5 (850) LTE
B7 (2600) LTE
B12 (700 ac) LTE
B13 (700 c) LTE
B25 (1900 +) LTE
B26 (850 +) LTE
B41 (TD 2500)
That could just be software restricted and if you unlcoked the sprint variant you might get band 3.

deakelem said:
The unlocked US 10 has support for the following:
4G LTE (up to 450Mbps)
FDD: Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13, 17, 20, 28, 29, 30
While the Sprint variant has support for
B2 (1900 PCS) LTE
B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1) LTE
B5 (850) LTE
B7 (2600) LTE
B12 (700 ac) LTE
B13 (700 c) LTE
B25 (1900 +) LTE
B26 (850 +) LTE
B41 (TD 2500)
That could just be software restricted and if you unlcoked the sprint variant you might get band 3.
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thx for the info,

guys using sprint htc 10 in europe, gsm, can you guys pick 4g?

dentedilupo said:
guys using sprint htc 10 in europe, gsm, can you guys pick 4g?
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Try unlocking LTE bands manually. That might fix it.

jblparisi said:
Try unlocking LTE bands manually. That might fix it.
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only can get 4g in city center
its normal because sprint phone dont have other lte bands
thanks

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jblparisi said:
Try unlocking LTE bands manually. That might fix it.
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can you tell me how can i unlock manualy? have you same instruction or other tutorial

jacobtvaliashvili said:
can you tell me how can i unlock manualy? have you same instruction or other tutorial
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Sorry for the delay,
this will point you into the right direction: https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/help/unlock-lte-bands-t3375736/page2
Basically as long as your Sprint and Android 7 you should not run into issues, only thing I could never get to work is WiFi Calling. Everything else is 100% spot on, I tested LTE bands here in Phoenix ,AZ (on AT&T)
If you get stuck or have any questions feel free to ask.

zlebors said:
Does the Sprint HTC 10 have LTE Band 3 (1800mhz)?
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did you get your sprint htc 10 LTE band 3 working?

I was trying to enable it on friend's phone few months ago, but didnt work.
I dont have the device to test

Project to buy an unlocked Z Force for France

Hi !
I am on free mobile French Operator, I read this:
https://www.frequencycheck.com/carr...QTjD/motorola-moto-z-force-td-lte/free-france
It seems that it would worked with free mobile.
I found this:
http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Motorola-Mot...hash=item3f772e5650:m:moWTsoHkQzRtFhjmd3HjpXg
What will be the probably annoyances after buy this phone for France? Update problems? Software problems? Sim card problem ? Any?
Thank in advance for replies and advice
edit:
link for free mobile compatibily

I bought one for me in Canada and everything works fine even if your website tell that it ain't supposed to
Good luck for yours

bob_the_vampire said:
I bought one for me in Canada and everything works fine even if your website tell that it ain't supposed to
Good luck for yours
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Thanks for your reply, I suppose and I hope it will work for me too..
Do you receive OTA updates normally?

Yes, even after a month of test I didn't find anything causing problem
The only thing I had to change is the SMS/MMS app because the stock one don't work on standard MMS network

Very good news ! I use mood for sms/mms so not a problem for me.. I will probably buy this phone in few days.
Thank you again for your quick replies ?

Im in Uk and all works fine. No problems at all and dont need to change mms/sms app. Only one thing Im missing is wifi call. I cant enable it because option is not available in menu with UK sim.
Sent from my XT1650 using XDA-Developers Legacy app

Thanks for the reply
I receive mine soon

Canada as mentionned works fine... The only issue I see with France is LTE bands. Are yours supported? Check the LTE bands with your operator and what the Z-Force supports, otherwise you might be stuck with 3G only (Which has all bands)

karendar said:
Canada as mentionned works fine... The only issue I see with France is LTE bands. Are yours supported? Check the LTE bands with your operator and what the Z-Force supports, otherwise you might be stuck with 3G only (Which has all bands)
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My operator supports lte 2600 and soon 700 MHz (2018), I have read that all bands was supported by the "unlocked" verizon phone, am I wrong?
What I saw, unlocked=global?
Technology: GSM / CDMA / HSPA / EVDO / LTE
2G bands: GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2 (dual-SIM model only)
CDMA 800 / 1900 - USA
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - USA
CDMA2000 1xEV-DO - USA
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - Global
4G bands LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 13(700) - USA
LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 12(700), 17(700), 19(800), 20(800), 25(1900), 28(700), 38(2600), 40(2300), 41(2500) - Global
Speed HSPA 42.2/5.76 Mbps, LTE-A (3CA) Cat9 450/50 Mbps, EV-DO Rev.A 3.1 Mbps - USA
HSPA 42.2/5.76 Mbps, LTE-A (2CA) Cat6 300/50 Mbps - Global

fabjazz said:
My operator supports lte 2600 and soon 700 MHz (2018), I have read that all bands was supported by the "unlocked" verizon phone, am I wrong?
What I saw, unlocked=global?
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Z-Force droid is a verizon branded and exclusive phone... Was never released anywhere else from what I was told, so you'll have USA bands. You're supported for LTE, as B7 (2600) and B13 (700) tough. The Global version of the Moto Z (Non-Droid) would have global bands.
Verizon screwed people and moto over badly by making this phone an exclusive. Moto Z Force should have been the flagship Moto, not the Moto Z or the Z play...
Reference post from Lenovo forums: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-Z-Force/Moto-Z-Force-global-release/td-p/3430067

karendar said:
Z-Force droid is a verizon branded and exclusive phone... Was never released anywhere else from what I was told, so you'll have USA bands. You're supported for LTE, as B7 (2600) and B13 (700) is supported. The Global version of the Moto Z (Non-Droid) would have global bands.
Verizon screwed people and moto over badly by making this phone an exclusive. Moto Z Force should have been the flagship Moto, not the Moto Z or the Z play...
Reference post from Lenovo forums: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-Z-Force/Moto-Z-Force-global-release/td-p/3430067
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So I am glad to hear that the French operator "free mobile" is totally compatible with unlocked verizon USA bands, and it will good to know it for future smartphone bought in USA, because it's a good deal (at least 100€ off with Europe, z force at the price of z play...) to buy flagship in USA

Just so you know, if you want to get a replacement shattershield, you'll have to order it from Moto and have to have a US shipping address... I can't get one shipped to Canada, sadly.

karendar said:
Just so you know, if you want to get a replacement shattershield, you'll have to order it from Moto and have to have a US shipping address... I can't get one shipped to Canada, sadly.
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Somebody in moto z forum has given a good way with a web site: :good:
https://www.shipito.com/fr/?countrycode=CA

fabjazz said:
Somebody in moto z forum has given a good way with a web site: :good:
https://www.shipito.com/fr/?countrycode=CA
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Yeah, I know shipito, I've supplied it to a few people in the forums Only issue is it becomes expensive for a 30$ screen replacement. I have friends in the US who can forward the package to me... So that'll be sufficient I think! Thanks though

karendar said:
Yeah, I know shipito, I've supplied it to a few people in the forums Only issue is it becomes expensive for a 30$ screen replacement. I have friends in the US who can forward the package to me... So that'll be sufficient I think! Thanks though
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too late for me, I discovered that after bought the phone and accessories , it will be good for next time....

After reading some forum in France, there are a lot of Bxx with 700Mhz support in the world.
For France, LTE/4G is B3, B7, B20 and B28 so it will miss 700Mhz and 800Mhz with a verizon phone.
carriers support LTE/4G, B28 begin in 2018:
Bouygues Telecom: B3 B7 B20
Orange: B7 B20
Free mobile: B7 B3
SFR: B7 B20
For the rest 2G and 3G(+) are fully compatible.
B1 - 2100Mhz
B2 - (1900 PCS)
B3 - (1800 + )
B4 - (1700/2100 AWS 1)
B5 - 850Mhz
B6 - ???
B7 - 2600 Mhz
B8 - 900 Mhz
B9 - 1800 Mhz
B11 - 1500 Lower
B12 700 ac
B13 - 700 c
B17 - 700 bc
B18 - (800 Lower)
B19 - (800 Upper)
B20 - (800 DD)
B21 - (1500 Upper)
B25 - (1900 +)
B26 - (850 +)
B28 - 700 APT
B30 - 2300 WCS
B38 (TD 2600)
B39 - TD 1900+
B40 - TD 2300
B41 - TD 2500

New frequency LTE 4G bands included in YP3 vs YP2 (YD201)

Not holding my breath but it seems YP3 has slightly better support for LTE frequencies which should mean better overall LTE reception in Europe and in Canada. Not sure about the U.S.
Europe (select bands and countries)
B8 (900) - NEW band in YP3
B3 (1800 +)
B7 (2600)
Canada
B7 (2600)
B2 1900 - NEW band in YP3
Band 17 - 700 mhz - NEW band in YP3
The comparison is made against YD201.
I got the specs from Frenquency check website and from posted online specs about YP3. Looks like these specs are different from the preview models of YP3 a few months ago so let's hope it holds some truth.
Interesting one of the specs saying the phone will also include bands 12, 13, 29 (all 700 mhz) which would be mostly good news for the U.S.

XT1962-6 (indian G7/dual SIM) LTE Bands B28?

I tried looking online for the list of supported bands, and there's one in particular that does show in some sites, and others, it doesn't.
Can someone confirm if B28 (700Mhz APT) is supported by this phone?
Interested in B7 (2600Mhz), B4 (AWS 1700/2100) & B28 (700Mhz APT). B2 would be a nice have.
Thanks!

The cell phone supported B28 B2 B4 The B7 does not support it
I currently use the B28 and B4

Fwiw, my 1962-6 works fime in U.S. of AT&T...zero connection or signal issues easretn U.S.