quick comparison T580 vs T590 - Samsung Galaxy Tab A series Questions & Answers

I was really happy when I bought my T580. Now today I bought a T590 and ... not so much
All in all, I'm a bit disappointed. For the money, I wonder if there are better options.
I don't remember the exact price I paid for the old one but it was < $200 so I felt I couldn't spend the same and get a two year old tablet..hence the T590 ..but so far..I'm less than impressed...
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T580
T590
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T590
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what's the same
Main camera 8mp
screen resolution 1920 x 1080
usb v2.0
recording resolution 1080/30fps
bluetooth v4.2
Li-Ion 7,300mAh
what's diff
32GB vs 16GB ram
holds a bigger sd card 400 vs 256
front camera 5mp vs 2mp
10.5 vs 10.1 screen
it performs a little better... (I included the P580 and s4 just for reference)
android benchmarks
Samsung SM-P580 3,748
Samsung SM-T580 3,692
Samsung SM-T590 4,895
Samsung SM-T830 13,604
cpu benchmarks
Samsung SM-P580 88,850
Samsung SM-T580 89,396
Samsung SM-T590 99,930
Samsung SM-T830 186,419
In my opinion if you can find the 2016... under $200 and $100 < T590... I'd save the $100 or something else.
the S4 is just really high for me...
I was happy with my T580 but ... the screen is no longer displaying anything now..
the T590 just doesn't seem like two years of technical evolution ... it's certainly no revolution :silly:

I kinda bricked my LG Pad and ATM I'm looking to choose between those two...
I found a 10.1 at 161 € and a 10.5 at 220 € so only 59 € difference... I guess that should pay for the 3 Gb of RAM instead of 2 GB (both have 32 Gb storage) and the USB-C...
Btw, is battery life similar? or is it better on the 10.1? (as I read on some reviews).

aolex said:
I kinda bricked my LG Pad and ATM I'm looking to choose between those two...
I found a 10.1 at 161 € and a 10.5 at 220 € so only 59 € difference... I guess that should pay for the 3 Gb of RAM instead of 2 GB (both have 32 Gb storage) and the USB-C...
Btw, is battery life similar? or is it better on the 10.1? (as I read on some reviews).
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First, I don't know if your 10.1 is different, or not, but the U.S. one 2016 model that I had, had only 2GB ram and micro usb. Might find the UK samsung site and check those specs.
From the links in my post above, it looks about the same. I haven't had the T590 long enough to judge and frankly, I never kept track on the T580. Some apps can eat it quick. Personally, if I find the most apps work on LineageOS, I'll use it or at a minimum root it, and just the control over running apps should extend the battery.
T590
Battery
Internet Usage Time(Wi-Fi) (Hours)
Up to 15
Video Playback Time (Hours)
Up to 15
Standard Battery Capacity (mAh)
7300
Audio Playback Time (Hours)
Up to 183
T580
Battery
Li-Ion 7,300mAh
Music Play Time
Up to 187 hours
Video Play Time
Up to 13 hours
Internet Use Time
Up to 13 hours

larrys_ said:
I was really happy when I bought my T580. Now today I bought a T590 and ... not so much
All in all, I'm a bit disappointed. For the money, I wonder if there are better options.
In my opinion if you can find the 2016... under $200 and $100 < T590... I'd save the $100 or something else.
the S4 is just really high for me...
I was happy with my T580 but ... the screen is no longer displaying anything now..
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the T590 just doesn't seem like two years of technical evolution ... it's certainly no revolution :silly:
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I've owned several T580s and just bought another one, used, for $99 including shipping. I'm thinking about a 590 simply because in is a later model and might get more attention from devs in the future.
I sold my last T580 a few month ago in favor of a Hipad I got for what I sold the T580. The Hipad has higher spec than the T590 but there isn't much XDA activity for it. I missed trying out new ROMs every about every other week , so I just bought another T580. Can't have too many tablets.:laugh:

I really don't understand why Samsung even bothered releasing the 2018 version of Tab A 10.5 since it came with Snapdragon 450 and same old LPDDR3 RAM. The Snapdragon 450 uses 8xA53 ARM cores, just like the Exynos SoC in the 2018 model. Their performance must be identical, which is confirmed by single core geekbench 4 scores, both in low 700s.
The way I see it, the only significant improvement is that 2018 model finally can have stereo sound in the landscape mode, instead of firing "left" and "right" sound all from one side. Neither seems to have the DRM to play Netflix in HD, which is a big fault in a tablet with a wide aspect ratio screen.
The 2019 model SM-T510 seems to fix the issue by finally moving to a CPU configuration with 4xA73 + 4xA53 cores and LDDDR4 SDRAM. The 32GB model comes with only 2GB of RAM, but 64GB model comes with 3GB.
In order to make the matters even more confusing for consumers, most of whom are not aware of these specs differences, all three Tab A models with 10+ inch screens are available in the USA market. Walmart and Sam's Club sell ONLY the 2016 model as of a couple of weeks ago, the Amazon sells the 2018 model, and the Best Buy stores sell only some kind the 2019 Tab A SM-t510 models. What a mess really.

$99 T580
I received my T580 yesterday afternoon. For $99 I expected it to show some signs of wear but was pleasantly surprised to find it in like new condition. So far I've had fun installing three different ROMs on it. The cheapest T510 I found was double the price and it was the 32bit version. So long as the devs keeping supporting the T580, I just don't think the 2019 models add enough to warrant the price difference.

I just bought my sm-t590 at Walmart in the store for 199 it was under a stack of t580s and they all looked the same I asked about the 580 it was 179 and only 16gb and 590 was 32gb for 20 more dollars. I had to dig to find it never heard of the new tab A until I found it the other day. I have been using my tab pro 8.4 since 2014 and paid 249 for it and I am definitely impressed with the new tab A 10.5 value with what I got! The sm-t590 is a nice tablet!

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I just bought my sm-t590 at Walmart in the store for 199 it was under a stack of t580s and they all looked the same I asked about the 580 it was 179 and only 16gb and 590 was 32gb for 20 more dollars. I had to dig to find it never heard of the new tab A until I found it the other day. I have been using my tab pro 8.4 since 2014 and paid 249 for it and I am definitely impressed with the new tab A 10.5 value with what I got! The sm-t590 is a nice tablet!
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The T590 is the 2018 version. The 2019 is T510. The cheapest I see for the T590 at Walmart is $214 for a refurbished tablet. I much prefer my like new T580 for $99. And with the 2019 available, it don't think many devs will be looking to buy and develop for the 2018. Just my two cents worth.

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The T590 is the 2018 version. The 2019 is T510. The cheapest I see for the T590 at Walmart is $214 for a refurbished tablet. I much prefer my like new T580 for $99. And with the 2019 available, it don't think many devs will be looking to buy and develop for the 2018. Just my two cents worth.
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The 2019 tab a was not yet in stock at the Walmart store. I did look online for tabs the best deal for a new tablet with storage and size was the one I bought at walmart for $199 the sm-t590. They had 580 and 590 and yes I know the sm-t590 is the 2018 version, also it has been said that the 590 should receive pie but I don't really care about that much if they send it or not. My note 8 is still on 7.1.1.

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The 2019 tab a was not yet in stock at the Walmart store. I did look online for tabs the best deal for a new tablet with storage and size was the one I bought at walmart for $199 the sm-t590. They had 580 and 590 and yes I know the sm-t590 is the 2018 version, also it has been said that the 590 should receive pie but I don't really care about that much if they send it or not. My note 8 is still on 7.1.1.
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Who cares what Samsung releases.:laugh: I've got 4 different version of 64bit Pie installed on my T580.:good::good:

I returned the sm-t590 to walmart I had it for 29 days and the screen went dead called Samsung and they were not even willing to help me get a return label, so I pleaded with Walmart to take it back even though only 15 days for tabs return policy, but manager let me exchange it for sm-t510 man does it move much quicker in touch and browsing videos etc. I almost was screwed! Never buying from Walmart again!

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Samsung 10.1 Price Change?

I'm starting to see reports that the price for the Samsung tablet has indeed changed in order to compete. Can anyone confirm? thanks
http://www.htcflyer.tk/smartphones/smart-phone/samsung/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-release-date
http://gadgetian.com/14647/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-wi-fi-june-8-price/
Here are 2 links..
I hope it will be $399 for the wifi 16GB, but I don't really think we will get that price on june 8th
This is getting me closer and closer to canceling my order with JR,, you think they will refund 100$ if the released price is less then what we paid?
I wouldn't say those links were reliable, but best buy still hasn't posted the price and we are only a few days away. That whats got me thinking that the 16GB $399 price is a possibility.
$399 would be a killer price. I would be surprised if they dropped it that low though right out of the gate although the TF is that price. I wonder if that would make the 8.9 $369.. I wish we could get more info on that model too.
Word is Samsung is try to compete with Apple's price. That's interesting what you said about the 8.9 being below the $399 mark. I see that appealing to business user even more. Would make sense if their are trying to make a big splash right from the start. But for now I going to just take it as a rumor until can confirm.
It's a rumor. They said at CTIA, when they were announced, that the 10.1 would be $499 and the 8.9 would be $469.
Agreed.
They already announced pricing.
Yeah they already announced pricing and I think it will still be $499/$469 although one could make an argument that the Tab 10.1 being thin doesn't justify $500 when the TF has IPS,SD slot and I believe HDMI all built in. Though it's not as thin.
IMO the problem with Android devices is there isn't much to separate them from one another other than price. Tegra2,HC,1GB, 16/32GB seems to be the basic specs.
Like I said give us a date for the 8.9 model
amazing if true, and would be an instant buy for me.. but i hope this means that samsung isn't cutting corners to make it happen. and i really hope that micro sd slot is there for the wifi only come june 8th
I don't believe the rumors of the price drop for an instant. Samsung doesn't have to price itself to beat the iPad 2, it just has to beat the other Android tablets, and looking around at what we got, I think Samsung has done that.
I'm not sure I'm buying a Galaxy Tab 10.1, because of the no micro SD slot. But I have a feeling Samsung is probably gonna be selling these things faster than they can make them for a while.
What I'm not certain about is the June 8th launch date though. They canceled that May 24th event for some reason and I don't think we've heard much lately. And two retailers, Office Max and JR.com are saying they aren't getting the Galaxy Tab 10.1 until late June (Office Max says June 24th specifically).
It could still happen on June 8th, but just at bigger retailers like Best Buy, Amazon and such and Office Max and JR.com are being made to wait, that wouldn't exactly be new. And Best Buy just put that page up. But it still makes me wonder.
It may not have to beat the iPad2 but it still has the TF that's $100 cheaper and from reading around it seems having and SD/microSD slot and HDMI built in which is a big deal for some.
The memory slot or HDMI don't matter to me but it does to some.
I like you wonder is the release date still the 8th. So little is being said at this point and still no 8.9 official date to my knowledge.
If they push the 8.9 till late July I'm probably going to start looking at other options
Daps said:
It may not have to beat the iPad2 but it still has the TF that's $100 cheaper and from reading around it seems having and SD/microSD slot and HDMI built in which is a big deal for some.
The memory slot or HDMI don't matter to me but it does to some.
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Transformer is the only decent tablet out right now in my eyes and at it's price it's going to be a very compelling alternative to the Galaxy Tab 10.1, especially with the micro SD and mini HDMI ports. I cancelled my pre-order for the GT 10.1 and just bought a Transformer again (had one before and returned it).
I've been on the fence between the Transformer and GT 10.1 for over a month. The micro SD is really big to me, because I don't believe 16GB of storage will fill my needs. So if I buy a GT 10.1, I'll have to spend $600 for the 32GB model. Since the Transformer has micro SD, I can buy the $400 16GB model and insert a 16GB card if I need more space. I'm saving $180 after you factor in a $20 16GB micro SD card for the Transformer.
But I'm giving up a lot of comfort. The Transformer isn't that heavy (much lighter than the Xoom and A500), but still quite a bit heavier compare to the GT 10.1. And the GT 10.1 has nice rounded edges on all sides. The Transform has a lot of corners, especially when held in portrait mode, it's not comfortable at all. This alone makes me think maybe the GT 10.1 32GB might be worth almost $200 more.
Transformer is a great tablet and I hope I'll be happy with the decision I made. But I don't think as many people really are going to put as much value into the micro SD slot as I do, or even that sweet keyboard dock (I can't even get one). The Galaxy Tab 10.1 is going to win hearts with it's sleeker look and design and better ergonomics and comfort. People will pay more for that.
I tend to agree with the review of GTab 10.1 IO Edition below:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ablet-when-size-does-matter-xoom-comparisons/
The weight and size are important factors for using a tablet.
I have an iPad2 that weigh just 600gram, and even that I feel quite uncomfortable to hold it very long
I know, I am skinny and I need to go to the gym ... but well, yeah ... GTab 10.1 for me
I hope your new Transformer is better than the last one, I returned mine and I'm now getting fed up with waiting for UK GT 10.1 prices, dates and spec. If it doesn't work out price wise then I think I'll likely try another Transformer, so long as I can get a good one.
I fall into the like the sleek looking stuff so the 10.1/8.9 for me but cheaper is always better I have a 16gb iPhone4 and it's not close to being full so the 16GB device would be fine. HDMI doesn't matter as nothing on the tablet I'd want to view that I wouldn't be able to view via PS3,PC,Laptop, etc
I just want to get some type of time frame. I heard the 10.1 may be pushed back and wonder if that is going to push back the 8.9.
If it's too much later then me being me would start looking at the HP WebOS device. Then you have the Amazon tablet later.
If the 8.9 get's pushed too late into the summer I may just wait on the quad cores or see what Windows ARM OS does
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00519RWI8/ref=cm_sw_su_dp
Its up on Amazon,..no price just like best buy. Things are getting interesting!
I had the Galaxy tab 10.1 limited edition for a few days (I was one of the lucky 5000 google io attendees). It was very solid and nice... and I sold it for over $900 in ebay and then bought a transformer from bestbuy for $433 (including taxes and shipping). Transformer is nice but GT is better (except the ports). My wife was so surprised how light the GT was (I also owned Gtablet and Nook color).
Anyways, I am returning my transformer to bestbuy and will get one from Amazon as soon as they start selling..(signed up for the alert). The extra $100 dollars is worth it.. GT 10.1 (by far) the best tablet out of all my past collection.(gtablet, nook color and transformer). Well, it is definitely not worth $900.. but $500 is a deal ( in my opinion).

Possible new devices in 2014 - Note 8.4" Pro

If this is true, I will hold on for LG G PAD 8.3
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/12/20...te-pro-12-2-and-galaxy-tab-3-lite-in-q1-2014/
Wondering what those four new Samsung tablets that we’ve been talking about a lot lately are? Well, thanks to our insider, we now have the name and screen size for each of those tablets – there’s the Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 (SM-T320/T325), Galaxy Tab Pro 10.1 (SM-T520/T525), Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 (SM-P900/P905), and the Galaxy Tab 3 Lite (SM-T110/T111). All of these will come in Wi-Fi and LTE models (with the exception of the Tab 3 Lite, which will only have 3G connectivity as befits its low price of around 100 Euros.)
The Galaxy Tab 3 Lite will be the first to launch sometime in week two in Cream White color with a 7-inch screen; it will be followed by the Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 and Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 sometime in week six, while the Galaxy Tab Pro 10.1 will arrive just a week later. All three Pro tablets will be available in black and white colors; the Tab Pro 8.4 and 10.1 will come with 16GB of storage while the Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 will have 32GB storage out of the box.
As always, the launch time frames may vary a bit, though all four will be out before March is over. We already have some details on the specs of the Galaxy Tab 3 Lite and the Galaxy Note 12.2 Pro, and we’ll be keeping an eye out for info that might crop up about the Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 and 10.1.
Update: Here’s a live picture of the back of the Note Pro, courtesy of cdpkorea.com
I would love to get an 8.4 Pro but my problem is the 16 gigabytes of storage is just not enough..
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Do you guys know if any of these devices will have voice calling functionality?
Touchmetallic said:
Do you guys know if any of these devices will have voice calling functionality?
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I think that every tablet Samsung has made came in a variant with phone calling capability. The US carriers just won't allow them to bring it here. So my guess is that won't change (on either front) with the new tablets. But, speaking as someone who uses an N5100 as my primary phone, I think an 8.4 tablet would exceed the limits of portability as a daily driver.
efanatic said:
I would love to get an 8.4 Pro but my problem is the 16 gigabytes of storage is just not enough..
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That crap needs to stop. Its days away from 2014, 32GB should be the entry level storage option now.
agreed. I just cannot for the life of me understand why they won't just give us that little bit extra storage it would make all the difference. Not like it would cost them that much more.
I haven't seen a mention of note 8.4 pro anywhere, where are you getting you facts from?
there's the "Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4" (which ain't the note line)
and
Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 (which definitely ain't 8.4 incher )
intelliriffer said:
I haven't seen a mention of note 8.4 pro anywhere, where are you getting you facts from?
there's the "Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4" (which ain't the note line)
and
Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 (which definitely ain't 8.4 incher )
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I was going to ask the exact same thing, luckily I read all the replies first
i hope they upgrade the int sd to 32gb like in note 3. but.... 8.4 inch... kind of big... it wont be comfortable to hold anymore... unless you got a gigantic hand...
Unless they keep the device the same size like they've been doing with their phones. I guess we'll see soon enough. I'm guessing we won't see a new Note until the summer
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A 12" note?!?!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNHceUPYRmw
efanatic said:
I would love to get an 8.4 Pro but my problem is the 16 gigabytes of storage is just not enough..
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SM-T320NZKEXAR is a black 32GB variant or SM-T320NZWEXAR for white. I would watch out for these two become in stock.
efanatic said:
I would love to get an 8.4 Pro but my problem is the 16 gigabytes of storage is just not enough..
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micro sd cards are dirt cheap, what's the problem exactly? and as mentioned above, they do come in 32gb variety.
mannequin said:
micro sd cards are dirt cheap, what's the problem exactly? and as mentioned above, they do come in 32gb variety.
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The note 8 was supposed to have a 32gb version too but it never came out. Also with 5 game on my note 8 and a few other small apps I have no more room. Yes I have a 64gb card in it. Problem is the app to sd only puts a very small amount of the app on the sd card. So it doesn't clear much in the internal space.
The 16 gig 8.4 is available today at bestbuy. $399
Stunned at the price in the UK for the wifi only version of the 8.4. £349. SERIOUSLY?
$399 would equate to around £250 in the UK and if the US was paying what £349 is, it would be more like $570 for you guys.
I'm a major Samsung supporter and major Samsung fan. I've had a couple of Samsung Tabs in the past, and at present have the Galaxy Tab 7.7. This has a Super AMOLED plus screen which has been exceptional and unsurpassed on a sub 9" device since it was released. (OK so only just beaten by the recent Nexus 7 v2.0).
So my Tab 7.7 has held up very well. And while I paid £349 for it back when I got it 2 years ago, I am seriously disappointed to see the new Tab Pro 8.4 come in @ £349. There's a lot more competition out there now and it should have been priced as such. I would maybe have stretched too £299 for it as a fanboi, and had hoped for it might be as low as £249. (i.e. US Price)
But seriously Samsung? £349 in the UK?
Sorry Samsung, but you just lost a sale. Don't expect stellar sales at that price.
Meantime I'l keep my 7.7.
Beerkan said:
Stunned at the price in the UK for the wifi only version of the 8.4. £349. SERIOUSLY?
$399 would equate to around £250 in the UK and if the US was paying what £349 is, it would be more like $570 for you guys.
I'm a major Samsung supporter and major Samsung fan. I've had a couple of Samsung Tabs in the past, and at present have the Galaxy Tab 7.7. This has a Super AMOLED plus screen which has been exceptional and unsurpassed on a sub 9" device since it was released. (OK so only just beaten by the recent Nexus 7 v2.0).
So my Tab 7.7 has held up very well. And while I paid £349 for it back when I got it 2 years ago, I am seriously disappointed to see the new Tab Pro 8.4 come in @ £349. There's a lot more competition out there now and it should have been priced as such. I would maybe have stretched too £299 for it as a fanboi, and had hoped for it might be as low as £249. (i.e. US Price)
But seriously Samsung? £349 in the UK?
Sorry Samsung, but you just lost a sale. Don't expect stellar sales at that price.
Meantime I'l keep my 7.7.
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Is that inclusive of the VAT? That 20% VAT is crazy.
Think the idea is to compete with the iPad mini 2. If the prices arent similar at launch, they'll probably come down soon to the ipad levels.
The people in the US get some nice freebies too. Hulu subscription, $25 playstore credit and a few other things.
At least you have the wifi option. In India, they try and push the wifi+3g model that bumps the price up another $100 or so.
I have a nexus 7 2013 16 GB model and all I do is download movies which I delete after watching it serves me well but if I do get the galaxy pro 8.4 they would need to release the lte model I will get a 64 GB sdcard problem solved
Sorry Samsung, but you just lost a sale. Don't expect stellar sales at that price.
Meantime I'l keep my 7.7.
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The 7.7 is a great tablet, in some ways (display, metal build) superior to the Note 8. And the folks that have them tend to keep them, thus the high prices for used ones. I'd still have mine if I hadn't broke it. Samsung got it wrong, the Note 8 should have been a Galaxy Tab 7.7 with a stylus.
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Tab S 8.4 and Tab Pro 8.4 tie for first in Consumer Reports!

As the title says, check the December issue of Consumer Reports. Tab S and Tab Pro both got a score of 86. IPad mini 83, Nexus 7 81. However, the CR Best Buys are the Amazon Kindle (78) and EVGA tegra Note 7 (78) as they were at least $100 cheaper then either Tab S or Pro.
I'd choose Pro over S because AMOLED is too warm (4300k vs 5700k) and AMOLED is prone to burn.
You'd probably find a OnePlus One easier than a Galaxy Pro Tab these days..
Man, I picked up my PRO for $250 at Best Buy and they had plenty still in stock. At $250, this is absolutely a steal.
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Man, I picked up my PRO for $250 at Best Buy and they had plenty still in stock. At $250, this is absolutely a steal.
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Ya, it is a steal! I just grabbed one over the weekend and this thing is amazing! :good:
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Man, I picked up my PRO for $250 at Best Buy and they had plenty still in stock. At $250, this is absolutely a steal. --Ya, it is a steal! I just grabbed one over the weekend and this thing is amazing! :good:
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Bought mine last week when I returned the Nexus 9 I had been trying out.
Lots of stock both black and white in the Naples store.
This might mean we will see a further price drop and with my bill saying returns now can be made until Jan 15th 2015 I guess that gives us a price match until Jan 15th as per their policy.
"If we lower our price during the return and exchange period, we will match our lower price, upon request."
Not sure if Black Friday would count anyone know?
Bought mine this week for 249 euros in France.
Upgrading from Note 8 running the excellent SlimKat ROM.
489 euros for the Nexus 9 32gb was way too pricey
379 euros for Z3 Compact 32gb was pricey too, and there isn't a lot of dev on Sony's Tablets, even if they are good.
Galaxy Tab S was an option but Exynos/3gb vs Snapdragon 800/2gb... Snapdragon wins, sorry for AMOLED
GTT1 said:
Bought mine last week when I returned the Nexus 9 I had been trying out.
Lots of stock both black and white in the Naples store.
This might mean we will see a further price drop and with my bill saying returns now can be made until Jan 15th 2015 I guess that gives us a price match until Jan 15th as per their policy.
"If we lower our price during the return and exchange period, we will match our lower price, upon request."
Not sure if Black Friday would count anyone know?
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Confirmed the Tab pro 8.4 is on sale black friday for $199.99 with Best Buy also some other Samsung tablets
http://blackfriday.bestbuy.com/?category=doorbusters5&filter=&brand=Samsung
I have found out that they don't price match to Black Friday deals, some purchasers however who bought in the last week get until Jan 15th to return so its a case of buying another one and return it with your previous bill to save $50.00
Tab Pro 8.4 availability
I bought mine in Greece on Jun 2014 for 250€.
It is now available and stocked (at least in 15 stores) starting from 210.99€ (checked today, Nov 12)
I envy the Tab S's 3GB of memory though ...
thdervenis said:
I bought mine in Greece on Jun 2014 for 250€.
It is now available and stocked (at least in 15 stores) starting from 210.99€ (checked today, Nov 12)
I envy the Tab S's 3GB of memory though ...
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It's hardly to tell the difference between 2GB and 3GB RAM except you open a lot of app at a time.
Tab Pro 8.4 design is based on Note 3 except cam and RAM, but CPU stays the same (same results as Antutu and Quadrant).
GTT1 said:
Bought mine last week when I returned the Nexus 9 I had been trying out.
Lots of stock both black and white in the Naples store.
This might mean we will see a further price drop and with my bill saying returns now can be made until Jan 15th 2015 I guess that gives us a price match until Jan 15th as per their policy.
"If we lower our price during the return and exchange period, we will match our lower price, upon request."
Not sure if Black Friday would count anyone know?
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I picked mine up a few days ago from the Sarasota store
Just got one myself at Best Buy for $199... happy so far.
Got mine this morning from best buy in the villages. Sold my gpad for $180 and got this for $199, not to bad if I say so myself.
Picked up a brand-new Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 from Craig's List over the weekend for $170. The guy had posted it for $250, but after I pointed out that these are now on sale at Best Buy for $199 and I'd have very little reason to buy from him, he was quick to go down in price and I was able to get it down to $170. This tablet is a steal at that price! I replaced my 32GB Nexus 7 (2013) with this, and so far I've been very, very impressed. Fabulous screen and fast performance. This thing rocks! I really like a physical home button. The Nexus 7 lacks that, which I never got used to. Also, I actually kinda like the Touchwiz layer. It adds a lot of useful features. Plus I picked up a 64GB micro SD card on Cyber Monday for $25 for extra storage, also something that you can't do with the Nexus 7. I sold my Nexus 7 for just about what I paid for my Galaxy Tab Pro, so that's been a great swap!
--Ron
Man yall got a good deal!!!
i bought my GTPro 8.4 last Friday for 229, and thought I got it for a steal 9I mean i did, but that extra 30 left in my pocket would be nice LOL
Just trying to find some good theme setups now from Zooper & such. So far, happy with it!
Hi guys. I got an 8.4 at the BB $199 for Xmas. I am likely to return it unless someone can explain how to overcome my issues 1. Portrait mode the thumb activates the side app launcher and fonts are too small in the browser plus the bezels are too small. My complaints are standard I'm sure. I will likely return this and order a cube talk 9x 9.7 unless someone can show me how to use this
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Hi guys. I got an 8.4 at the BB $199 for Xmas. I am likely to return it unless someone can explain how to overcome my issues 1. Portrait mode the thumb activates the side app launcher and fonts are too small in the browser plus the bezels are too small. My complaints are standard I'm sure. I will likely return this and order a cube talk 9x 9.7 unless someone can show me how to use this
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1. If you pull down from the top of your screen, swipe the little circles (Wi-Fi, location, sound, etc.) to the left until you see the multi window option. Click on it to turn it off. Now the side bar will not pop open.
2. Download Boat Browser for Tablet from the play store. In the settings, look at the page content setting. Then click on text scaling and set the font to a comfortable size. (There are a lot of features that make Boat Browser one of my favorites)
I personally like the smaller bezel and the 8.4 screen size. This tablet is a great deal for the price. Don't give up on it!
Thanks k8108
It seems so many sites do not respond to the browser settings. Even navigation bar suggestions use the sites' font. Any other options to use in this case e.g. bibliotecapleyades.net? That is very annoying. I'm coming from the 9.7 inch retina screen
I may keep plugging away with the 8.4 pro and resell on eBay if I can't adjust. I do like the single handed operability. The screen is bluish to me so I am running the blue filter app to warm it up
The multi window option is very convienent but lacks customizability. I may go with another ROM
Enjoy yours. And thanks!
kulcousy said:
Thanks k8108
It seems so many sites do not respond to the browser settings. Even navigation bar suggestions use the sites' font. Any other options to use in this case e.g. bibliotecapleyades.net? That is very annoying. I'm coming from the 9.7 inch retina screen
I may keep plugging away with the 8.4 pro and resell on eBay if I can't adjust. I do like the single handed operability. The screen is bluish to me so I am running the blue filter app to warm it up
The multi window option is very convienent but lacks customizability. I may go with another ROM
Enjoy yours. And thanks!
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In boat browser with my text scaling at 150%, I am able to read articles from the site you mentioned with no problem. I am also able to pinch zoom in on the page with all the links to see it better. Play with the settings to see what suits you.
If you root this tablet you can install the exposed framework which has a multi window module that let's you add any apps you want to the multi window function. I use it all the time.
I think the more you play with the features this tablet had to offer, the more it will grow on you
Yeah these fonts are getting to me. I mostly use apps not browser and they don't offer many option for text xposed framework has a mod to customize app scaling so when I figure out how to root the tab I'll try that
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Tab S3 - looks to be coming soon.

So I bought my Tab S2 about two weeks ago (and am going to return it).
Rumors are saying the Tab S3, the true update to the S2 (not the 2016 S2 I bought) will be announced on September 1 along with the Gear S3 watch. This is shortly after the Note 7 is announced.
Let's post here as details become available. Everything for now is just rumors.
The rumor I'm hoping comes true is that is has the processor from the S7. That is a beast and huge upgrade over the S2's dated note 4 processor.
I hope its true, since i have 30 day to return my 2016 S2, i might consider going for the new model due to the new cpu.
RMXO said:
I hope its true, since i have 30 day to return my 2016 S2, i might consider going for the new model due to the new cpu.
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New ones always launch about $150 more than their predecessors.
The way I think of it, the Tab S is the Galaxy S5, the Tab S2 is the Galaxy S6, and the Tab S3 will be the Galaxy S7.
Usually leaks begin months before an official announcement. The Tab S2 was announced in Jul 15 but the form factor and dimensions were leaked way back in Feb. I think it this were true we would have more details by now.
In any case, I doubt Samsung is going to go with such a high-end SOC for a tablet, but hopefully I will be wrong.
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New ones always launch about $150 more than their predecessors.
The way I think of it, the Tab S is the Galaxy S5, the Tab S2 is the Galaxy S6, and the Tab S3 will be the Galaxy S7.
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I bought the 2016 S2 as well 3 weeks ago...but got an open box for $225....so I cant complain... I went through every Note in the series tablet and phone... and I love this thing I do miss the S Pen. Samsung is throwing out a lot of buggy stuff in the last two years though.. thank God for root because because I fixed everything that way.. I definitely want to the Note 7!
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For the price (I paid $299 for the 8.0 WiFi version of the 2016 S2), I wasn't going to wait. I'm absolutely pleased with the 2016 S2, I can finally "stick" with an Android Tablet (tried so many, always went back to iPad Mini). I doubt there will be much "lift" from a refreshed Tab S3 -- the usual faster processor, maybe better camera, but in day to day, it's probably marginal benefit. The one thing you will most certainly get is a faster update to Nougat.
I believe it's highly unlikely there will be a S3 this year with a recently released refresh. All of the rumor sites list the specs of the refresh and the model number I've seen references the 9.7 LTE refresh (sm t819).
Additionally the release cycle for the Galaxy Tab S series seems to consistently launch in the summer, with the refresh released this summer I out the chances of seeing a Tab S3 between zero and nil.
I paid $340 at Costco for the T813 (9.7") and it came with the Samsung book cover ($70 on Sammys website), so it was definitely a good deal. This recent price drop makes me think they are clearing out the last model in anticipation of the new one. Costco is where that 90 day return comes from, so I'll be unrooting and going back to stock before returning if the s3 is announced.
Bringing it out early September seems to make sense to be with the recent releases if you throw in the 2016 refresh, which held them over a little longer.
I don't see the S2 as being in line with the S6, its really just a big Note 4 (sans S-pen). So maybe we get a Note 5 for the S3. That's a decent upgrade on the processor and probably worth it to me.
I guess there is always something better around the corner. I just hate to be the sucker that helped the clear out last years model right before something better comes out, and makes the S2 drop even further in price. It's like buying a Note 5 right now. It'll be outdated and cheaper here soon....
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I just hate to be the sucker that helped the clear out last years model right before something better comes out, and makes the S2 drop even further in price. It's like buying a Note 5 right now. It'll be outdated and cheaper here soon....
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The model T813 was released in April (3 months ago). That's hardly being the sucker that bought last years model right before the new model came out. Now if you bought a T810 I could go with that, but you bought a brand new model. Same case and aesthetics, new processor/GPU, higher performance in benchmarks, and is arguably already the best Android tablet. I understand wanting the latest and greatest, which is why I bought the T713. That said there's nothing about an FCC filing yet, the sites that mention the FCC filing are all mistakenly identifying the T819 as a Tab S3 and not a refreshed Tab S2 LTE, no announcement from Samsung. Once there is an announcement from Samsung the wait timer starts, which typically is a 3 month wait (June/July announcement typically results in a September release).
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I don't see the S2 as being in line with the S6, its really just a big Note 4 (sans S-pen).
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I do, in terms of release cycle.
S5 (Tab S1) is great but has some things wrong with it.
S6 (Tab S2) removes some features that were loved about the S5 but still overall a better device.
S7 (Tab S3...?) adds back everything that people hated being removed from the S6 (in the Tab case, maybe the S3 will have a 16:10 screen...? who knows)
Give us a new Note 8.
better accu? when I wach youtube with my 8.0 tab the accu I can't enjoy all the day (or even 8 hours) of my nice tab
Some differences in the new 2016 refresh:
http://www.sammobile.com/2016/04/12/samsung-just-released-an-updated-galaxy-tab-s2-with-improved-performance/
Some differences in the SD 652 vs SD 820:
http://www.androidauthority.com/snapdragon-652-vs-802-whats-difference-686684/
I believe they moved to this CPU because it's cheaper to make. It's on the older 28nm process, which they probably have excess capacity on. It gives them more profit and ability to close out old stock without losing as much or at least cutting into profit less. To me the biggest difference is that the GPU is less capable. I would wait unless you're trying to get a good tablet and can't afford to drop $500+. Then it's still a great tablet if you're getting it for under $350 IMHO.
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Some differences in the new 2016 refresh:
http://www.sammobile.com/2016/04/12...ated-galaxy-tab-s2-with-improved-performance/
Some differences in the SD 652 vs SD 820:
http://www.androidauthority.com/snapdragon-652-vs-802-whats-difference-686684/
I believe they moved to this CPU because it's cheaper to make. It's on the older 28nm process, which they probably have excess capacity on. It gives them more profit and ability to close out old stock without losing as much or at least cutting into profit less. To me the biggest difference is that the GPU is less capable. I would wait unless you're trying to get a good tablet and can't afford to drop $500+. Then it's still a great tablet if you're getting it for under $350 IMHO.
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As I stated earlier in this thread, the new refresh model gpu is garbage comparing to last years's models. I am not a gamer and the light games I do play stutter and drop frames while last year's model played all these games at full frame rate without frame drops or stuttering.
So I agree with the above that Samsung probably used this soc in the 2016 models to save on costs.
Hopefully there will be an tab s3 this year.
Maybe the 713/813 and 719/819 are the new Tab S3. I just noticed in Samsung's list of Knox-supported devices the T813 is listed under Samsung Galaxy Tab S3!!!
It is a PDF file I downloaded from Samsung, I can't remember the link.
Edit: here it is! https://www.samsungknox.com/knoxportal/files/GalaxyDevicesSupportingKNOX.pdf
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Maybe the 713/813 and 719/819 are the new Tab S3. I just noticed in Samsung's list of Knox-supported devices the T813 is listed under Samsung Galaxy Tab S3!!!
It is a PDF file I downloaded from Samsung, I can't remember the link.
Edit: here it is! https://www.samsungknox.com/knoxportal/files/GalaxyDevicesSupportingKNOX.pdf
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I have the SM-T719 and the box says Tab S2 (it is the Qcom processor model w 6.0.1)
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I have the SM-T719 and the box says Tab S2 (it is the Qcom processor model w 6.0.1)
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The point is Samsung slipped up and called it the Tab S3 internally. Regardless what it says on our boxes these models may be the ones they're planning on shipping in new boxes and calling them Tab S3.
I don't see a reason to release a S3 a couple months after a refresh. Just doesn't make sense at all. The S2 2016 is $350 for 8", that's a far cry from trying to clean out inventory price, and once again, would be pointless to do so soon...
Yes, I got my 713 for $175 (after CB), due to the price mistake, but I also waited 5 weeks to receive it, with clear warning that replacements within return window isn't happening. Only a 15% restocking fee if you return it. I love this tablet though! I've had a N7 2013 that is on its death bed. Going from a 1800 sunspider score to 580 is pretty darn noticeable!
Also, why would anyone return their 713 and 813, especially if you got a deal for the S2... THE opportunity cost is negligible. Spending a $150 more to get 15% speed bump would be a dimwitted move. Especially if you're mostly doing light gaming, reading, and email. That's why tablet sales are so bad, you don't need to update nearly as often as your smartphone, because you're doing significantly less with it! Honestly, even that is pointless, my N6 keeps up with everything I throw at it...
My N7 I wholeheartedly believe would still been fast enough for everyday use if it wasn't for the age and thousands of hours chugged on that CPU and RAM. This S2 destroys that tablet in specs, that's why it would be so unadvisable to forfeit all that money for barely an upgrade!
Just my logical 2 cents...
Agreed. These new models are a rockin' deal. The 8 incher wifi was 299 and I paid 399 for the 9.7. Totally ok with the price and value.
Another thing that makes me think there won't be a Tab S3 so soon (apart from the obvious lack of any evidence so far) is that it would make sense for Samsung to release their next flagship tablet on Android Nougat from day one and that's not going to be possible for a long while.

Ebay shenanigans

Seeing how hostile are Netflix and Amazon prime to almost all Android tablets (no HD resolution), I decided to pick up one of old cheap Android tablets that are whitelisted in the Netflix FAQ. I figured, I could pick up a Shield tablet for less than a hundred bucks to be a gym companion, and this is the result of the first auction I tried to bid on. This is insane, who are these people?
Paying almost full MSRP for such an old device. lol
The Shield was a pretty unique device. An Android tablet designed for gaming, made by a respected manufacturer of gaming video cards. Still folks looking to buy it, as you can see. I might be still using it, if I hadn't cracked the screen (and replacements pretty much impossible to find).
Doesn't help that there are hardly any decent Android tablets coming out anymore. $650 for the Samsung Tab S4 (or $550 for the two year old S3) is just laughable.
But yeah, for the price in your screenshot; you're probably better off buying a Asus Zenpad.
What redpoint73 has said. When you consider the hardware, for under 200 it's still a very solid performing tablet and not really selling itself hard on frills. The downside is that Nvidia no longer produces them, so there's a finite amount of them and they are desired.
I've seen them going for around 200-250 on average.
Here something interesting samsung going to release new tablets
1. Samsung Galaxy Tab S5e with Snapdragon 670 4GB Ram 64GB, 6GB Ram 128GB price maybe $400
2. Samsung Galaxy Tab A 10.1 2019 model with Samsung Exynos 7904 processor 2 or 3GB Ram 32GB Internal Storage and might cost $179-200
Both support Android 9.0
Samsung Galaxy Tab S5e Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ts2U1wLxFY
Try Let go or offer up. I just bought a Mint condition shield tablet, shield controller, plugs and mini HDMI to regular HDMI for 50 bucks!
Bought my son a k1 a few years ago for well over $200. Gotta be almost 3 years now & the k1 is still a great tab. Got a new battery on the way but after almost 3 years that's to be expected. Still handles games, media & anything extremely well. Doubles as a console which is way cool. An extremely durable tablet, my son is 7½. Not updated anymore, it landed on Android 7, which I consider to be one of the best versions, especially for older devices. Anything around $150 for this tablet in good working order, even in the age of Q I think is a good price. Definitely one of the best tablets every imo.
Sold my replacement unopened Shield tab for $350 on ebay earlier this month. Not sure why people are paying so much for a 5+ year old tablet but I cant complain!

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